Biggest Controversy in EVERY Smash Bros Game!

[@SheaWaiteAMDG]

I kinda forgot Sakurai started with basically an apology with the Byleth reveal. The only thing I remembered was just how angry the internet was

[@bdt2002gaming]

It’s funny because Byleth is probably the most unique FE character on the roster up to that point and people were still mad 😂

[@SheaWaiteAMDG]

@@bdt2002gaming I was pretty upset about that actually. I know I like Fire Emblem and I understand that not everyone does, but calling Byleth another anime sword fighter really missed the point

[@nascour5991]

kinda funny since nintendo stans are so quick to make excuses for tons of other shitty things nintendo does, just shows how big of losers they are.

[@nascour5991]

@@bdt2002gaming I mean it's a bit petty but hard to blame them, I'd be mad if instead of sora we got like dr.luigi or something

[@MrDrLuigi_]

@@nascour5991Hey, don’t diss my man Dr. Luigi! 😂

[@zek62482]

Can't imagine making death threats over a video game. Some people need professional help.

[@mattalan6618]

it is sad that people take gaming seriously. even if you play casually, competitively, or you go after every trophy/achievement gaming is meant to be fun

[@heyyoumewtwo4801]

People like Grummz and his bootlickers are still perpetuating stuff like this to this very day

[@mattalan6618]

@@heyyoumewtwo4801 are they really? jeez those idiots will never learn

[@xenoemblem7]

@@heyyoumewtwo4801 They're not the ones sending threats. In fact, Grummz the one's getting a bounty

[@xenoemblem7]

@@mattalan6618 No, Grummz is the one that got sent threats

[@thesuperdk513]

2:02 Nintendo didn't know fans would react like this, only Sakurai did. It wasn't his decision to put Byleth in the game, it was Nintendo's, and he knew fans would not be happy.

[@PSYMEDIC]

Honestely, the biggest reason people were so upset wasn't just because Byleth was another Fire Emblem charackter, but many belived that it would be Dante from DMC. Mostly becasue of a vague tweet from DMC's creative director and the inclusion of Bayonetta, which sparked quite a lot hope, because many would've otherwise seen DMC as too mature.

[@Naoto-kun1085]

Smash fans are crazy tbh

[@phoenixchampion7]

Honestly I always gave Nintendo a pass for cutting the Disney Characters from Sora's stage. Negotiating with Square to use Sora and Kingdom Hearts characters was one thing, negotiating the mouse is a whole other beast.

[@KurtWagner-x2n]

Plus non game characters really don't belong in smash

[@stanliux]

I'm pretty sure it has to do more with the fact that non-videogame characters are forbidden in Smash Bros.

[@The_Gronne]

It's a miracle they were even allowed to show the mouse shape in the trailer

[@timq16]

@@stanliuxWhat do you mean, forbidden?

[@stanliux]

@@timq16 Masahiro Sakurai has stated multiple times since Brawl that non videogame characters like Goku or Iron Man will not get into the game, mainly because Smash Bros is a videogame (mostly Nintendo) focused crossover, so bringing non videogame characters would ruin the point.

[@bdt2002gaming]

Here’s a few others I can think of off the top of my head: -Smash 4 not having an Adventure Mode because they supposedly didn’t want cutscenes leaked (this may also explain World of Light’s lack of cutscenes too) -People not knowing if Ultimate would be a Smash 4 port (less development time than Brawl and Smash 4 doesn’t help) -Allegations of Kirby being severely nerfed in Melee because of creator bias (notice how the Meta Knight situation happened in the very next game) -Custom moves in Smash 4… like, everything about them -A near-complete lack of Pokémon spin-off content across the entire Smash series (seriously where the heck is my ukulele pichu alt) -Recurring debates on “the rat” (Pikachu) and if it should have been banned in Smash 64

[@nascour5991]

the kirby thing wasn't a allegation, it's something sakauri straight up admitted in a interview

[@leithaziz2716]

Besides how broken custom moves were in Smash 4 and them being allowed during the 1st competitive year of the game, the drama was also about how tedious the processing of unlocking them was. Even the fastest and most optimal way of grinding (picking Ganon) would take 3-4 days straight to unlock everything.

[@bdt2002gaming]

@@nascour5991 Multiple sources still dispute this from what I’m seeing, and even then there’s still the Meta Knight situation that feels more like a conspiracy theory than anything else. “Meta Knight’s Revenge”? More like “Sakurai’s Revenge for the Kirby situation”.

[@nascour5991]

@@bdt2002gaming Kirby being bad in every smash game except the first one can't be coincidence, metaknight was likely just a accident cus the game was designed as casual first and they didn't care about balance

[@kylespevak6781]

Kirby nerfed for creator bias, but Meta Knight was broken? Isn't that two opposites?

[@TopTierGamerMan]

Smash is the definition of “Love the game, Fuck the community.”

[@samuelbrown1283]

@@TopTierGamerMan u r right

[@cloverkip]

that's just every game

[@kahp1072]

10000%

[@Playstation-Player5th]

Just like the anime and FNAF community

[@Kuromi_Smiles]

@@Playstation-Player5th what’s wrong w the fnaf community?

[@jpc7795]

I've said this on reddit, But I'll say it again here, at the end of the day, these characters are here to sell their games and it's not just for Fire Emblem. Most people wouldn't know these characters without smash in general, so it prones people to research them and get their games to know who they are. So it doesn't matter if this was done for the fans or not, money is money, business is business.

[@crimsonstormsurge]

Exactly I got introduced to soooooooo many franchises through smash

[@williamsanborn9195]

As much as I hate to say it, you’re right. I wouldn’t have been introduced to Mega Man, Kirby, Zelda, or Final Fantasy (VII) had it not been for Smash. And this is coming from someone whose first exposure to Smash was Brawl, arguably the most controversial game in the series!

[@brandonwilliams6119]

Yeah and that point goes all the way back to Melee, without Marth and Roy in Melee I highly doubt most people would know what Fire Emblem is if it somehow missed its Melee debut.

[@INFERNO95]

These kids on the net keep forgetting that video games is a business not a charity.

[@jpc7795]

@@INFERNO95 FAX TO THE MAX

[@BirdCraftSSB]

16:11 The actual reason Brawl was delayed was due to huge amount of content in the game. Sonic had nothing to do with it. In fact the reason Sonic is the way he is Smash is because Sakurai based him on the classic genesis version. If you need more accurate info watch Source Gaming's series of why characters were chosen

[@bdt2002gaming]

This. Jigglypuff, Toon Link, and Wolf were the actual “last minute additions” of Brawl, at least moreso than Sonic was.

[@Aaron-l2w5p]

@@bdt2002gaming And massively explains their complete lack of any apperence in the main story of the Subspace Emissary, only being post-story unlockables

[@brandonwilliams6119]

I wonder if without Sonic delaying Brawl would we have gotten Wolf, Toon Link and Jigglypuff. That extra time allowed for them to make it in.

[@doofuscawt]

@@brandonwilliams6119 i mean how can there be 2 master swords tho

[@WigglerM2]

I love how just saying Steve could be this whole video

[@hell0n017]

Lmao, the list could be 10 things that are controversial with Steve

[@Brendanowl]

Ok, even though Steve is a broken overpowered glitchy demon, it is still amazing he is in the game.

[@BigHailFan]

at times like this, im glad my main counters him so hard (villager.)

[@RoseRedViper]

Dante isn't an Activision Blizzard property. Devil May Cry is owned by Capcom. was so confused when you mentioned him XD

[@TheChosenPrime]

Imagine spending all that hard work to make a unique character that's fun to play as and has so many combos but end up getting told to kill yourself because it's a Fire Emblem character 💀💀💀

[@Naoto-kun1085]

Yeah I feel so bad for everyone involved, especially since Byleth was such a cool character

[@PeterGriffin11]

I've noticed that with the DLC characters in Smash Ultimate for whatever reason some people were really overly sensitive when it came to anyone having any sort of negative opinion about them. I still remember how angry the fanbase was when Hero, Terry and Byleth were announced those three characters brought out the worse in the fanbase. If there's ever another Smash game (which I'm sure there will be) I really hope the community can learn to chill out and let people like what they like and dislike what they dislike without getting up in arms over other peoples opinions.

[@Sp3ctralI]

We can only hope 😅

[@bdt2002gaming]

Honestly at this rate I hope there isn’t. Not only does Sakurai himself need to take a break, maybe even retire, but Nintendo’s coming off probably the most controversial game in the series and there’s no certainty that Smash 6 would be nearly as financially successful as this game was.

[@PeterGriffin11]

@@bdt2002gaming You think Smash Ultimate was controversial? I’d love to know why. Because from what I’ve seen most people loved the game.

[@Sp3ctralI]

@@bdt2002gaming I think Sakurai would work in the background (akin to Scott), wasn’t it that he would work on any next installments, or at least, not be as big of a part?

[@bdt2002gaming]

@@PeterGriffin11 Bro did not watch the video 💀 (only joking) Edit: There’s about a 50/50 shot you were being sarcastic, my bad

[@ThisUserDoesNotExist69]

"Steve's meat getting cut loose"

[@shamar9818]

I doubt Dante was affected... considering he's a Capcom character😂

[@El_Mince]

28:23 I’ll actually defend nintendo on this one. having a character who fights with her hair be the representative for a game called arms is a little backwards

[@voltingmaster5458]

Not to mention we already have Bayonetta in the game.

[@Vulpas]

And identity politics rEpReSeNtAtiOn shouldn't factor in at all who we get on the roster.

[@leviduppongmusic]

​@@Vulpas politics shouldn't determine anything in the general capitalistic economy. I'm glad that Nintendo has done at least that

[@Vulpas]

@@leviduppongmusic Nintendo of Japan hasn't, but Nintendo of America has. Fire Emblem, Cenoblade, Animal Crossing, etc. have all been altered by their ESG initiatives. The most recent victim of this DEI stuff is Paper Mario TTYD's remake.

[@leviduppongmusic]

@@Vulpas 🤮 gosh I hate politics sometimes

[@meta527II]

I also love how Nintendo has to censor Samus, yet they gave Mythra jiggle physics.

[@Naoto-kun1085]

It makes sense since Samus wears a skintight body suit so her chest should logically appear smaller and not jiggle, where as Pyra doesn't have that

[@aplsed]

11:54 Correction: Slippi, as a service, is still a thing and can still be played today. Nintendo shut down a _tournament_ planned to run Slippi on the grounds of the program needing the "use of illegally copied versions of the game in conjunction with a mod called 'Slippi' during their online event." Source: Owen S. Good, _"Smash Bros. tournament The Big House 10 canceled over netcode,"_ Polygon, Nov 19, 2020

[@EpicPandaPat]

blud called Dante an activision character💀

[@ixzaluoh8997]

Would be cool for activision characters

[@Vulpas]

bro said "blud"

[@illford]

​@@Vulpasif they're british or Jamaican thats not crazy

[@ZaleraArkanus666]

Using the word blud. 💀

[@cornbread3056]

@@Vulpas guy said "bro"

[@PhoeMIX2]

The biggest problem I have with the censorship is that Nintendo has released T-rated games before, and seems totally fine with it. What’s so bad about Ultimate being rated T?

[@BulbaWhat98]

The possibility of an Overwatch character getting into Vol 2 if Blizzard didn't screw up back in late 2019 is pretty insane, in terms of how we could’ve been in an alternate timeline with Tracer regardless of your thoughts on Overwatch

[@nascour5991]

not really interested in another lame zoner but ig if you're a casual fan it'd be cool

[@arbalest327]

@@nascour5991 it would be cool to add doomfist, genji, reinhardt or somethin

[@crimsonstormsurge]

Honestly an overwatch character in smash could be awesome

[@hell0n017]

I agree with this, more with tracer since she could a interesting concept of a projectile character that needs to fight up close to do damage and depends on knowing when and how to engage but that’s just what I think

[@nascour5991]

@@hell0n017 I'm sorry but with exception of megaman and pacman most zoners are lame as shit. The last thing I would want is another.

[@mythicalskeleton1546]

Nintendo walking out of the "hating fans" competition with every trophy that was there

[@kylespevak6781]

"Anime sword fighter" when half of Nintendo's franchises are anime 😂

[@arnezj.bridges2768]

Its a bit more nuanced than that. Half if the fire emblems guys they choose primary weapons weren't swords so its a real hair pull. Ironically Byleths Canon weapon was indeed a (whip)sword. Where are the spear and axe fighters? And if everyone is already this sick of FE know way are we getting Claude's bow and that sick Arial back flip shot.

[@kylespevak6781]

@@arnezj.bridges2768 I found it funny people started complaining about the Fire Emblem characters when each one was unique. Corrin was so fun in Smash 4, and my best friend goes crazy with Byleth. Haters gonna hate

[@alp6502]

@@kylespevak6781 robin as wel, being the only tomb user

[@Urastinker]

​@kylespevak6781 it was a matter of time until I saw a comment like this: and no they aren't all unique that's just objectively wrong 90% of them have major similarities and minor differences, robin, corrin, and byleth ARE the only original FE characters moveset wise.

[@kylespevak6781]

@@Urastinker Yeah, literally the ones that were being added when people started complaining. No one had a problem with 4 Marths

[@Ilias-7-t8j]

It’s very rare to someone mention Smash Overload in Smash controversy

[@JJSquirtle]

You missed the EVO Scandal where Nintendo tried to shut down Melee at Evo after they raised money for cancer research to be added to the roster

[@EdgadusOmegaSlayer]

Byleth, Steve, Waluigi as assistant again, Bayonetta from Smash Wii U, Corrin from Smash Wii U, and Smash Con 2022 and Smash Con 2023 were among the darkest episodes of Smash Bros.

[@mike_havens]

Not sure if this was put yet but you can also play as Master Hand in Melee by a glitch that has the player's controller in port 3 hover over the option to put a new name and then simultaneously hit A and B together,if done right it goes to the stage select menu and I say port 3 because that's the only port you can control it in,not 1,2 or 4

[@DarkArtAlchemy]

The Smash World Tour was run (and cancelled) by VGBC due to ‘health and safety concerned’. Panda was the Panda World Cup and was the only of these two partnered with Nintendo. VGBC cancelled and alleged it was because of Panda sending Nintendo after them. The community turned on Dr Alan and Panda. Just a small correction there in that it’s two seperate tourney with circumstances about them.

[@yahboysim1231]

Half of those assist trophies/ spirits could've been some great characters 😢

[@krewl1252]

the only thing i remember about byleth was waking up early to see it being like eh going back to sleep and then the video from nintendo store they were more hyped for the mii costumes i am so glad i only play smash very very casually as the competitive scene always makes me cringe to see

[@CuteRedPanda64]

You forgot to mention that the Miis were originally going to be included in Brawl but wasn't because Sakurai didn't want the Miis punching and kicking.

[@byronlyons3548]

Yeah, no, the whole Smash World Tour isn't as simple as "It's all Alan's fault" that people want to make it be. But knowing the community, they don't want to hear the truth anyways. Nah, they just want a bunch of sleazed bags get away with getting the best of them, because they entertain them. But will send you an email, charging you money for re-streaming their stream of their tournaments.... With one of them finally being out of the running, and going out of "business" (if you can consider hosting a game tournament a business) not that long ago. You'd figure summer 2020, after *that* event happening, that people would come to realize all their problems isn't always big corpos, or people who make deals with big corpos. And that it's sometimes from the person right next to you, the one who is "on your side."

[@MonteRicard]

18:37 hey, there's PMEX REMIX! (Dev from the project, appreciate the nod!)

[@PrimmsHoodCinema]

Brawl Meta Knight was a monster!! Lol my cousin randomly picked him up and was unstoppable for a long time 😭😭😭

[@JYGamingGuys]

Nintendo didn't take down Slippi, they took down a tournament that used it. They didn't take down Project+ either, just a tournament. Nintendo doesn't seem to mind fan games as long as it's not a remake or a Pokemon fan game, they're also pretty strict on tournaments with their games in general

[@nascour5991]

Ok so yes with slippi they just stopped a tournament but rest assurred if slippi was used for emulating games they would take it down for sure. Yes Project+ is still up but who knows for how long. As for the rest of what you said you're literally just lying man, they've taken down tons of fangames, am2r, super mario 64 remake, project m, pokemon uranium, the nintendo switch emulator was literally just recently taken down even though it's a fucking emulator which is legal under US law. Nintendo also still regulary goes to war with emulation sites often fining them for millions, went after etikacons which were made to honor a famous youtuber who took his own life (the eitkacons were made allegally without his parents permission but still). Nintendo also borderline harassed and stalked etika for seemingly no reason but the evidence on that is a bit more dicey. Basically please do your research and stop being a bootlicker for a company who wouldn't care if you died tomorrow, idc what didyouknowgaming says they have intentive to side with nintendo and lie for their benefit (ik you didn't mention that youtuber but i get the feeling this is where you got that info).

[@MarioandLuigiplaygames17]

​@@nascour5991Well, when it comes to the most recent emulator that was taken down to my knowledge, they were locking patch updates of Tears of the Kingdom for emulator behind paywalls on their Patreon. And to my knowledge, they been making around 10k per month from it? So yeah, for this one at least, I don't remember what it was called? I think it was rightfully taken down! Now with others, it's a bit more of a grey area. While technically it is true it's not illegal for emulators to exist, at least if you have the copy of the game already and if it's not a direct one-on-one copy of the code from the game, and if you're not selling your own copies of it, it's probably okay. But here's a fact! Japan absolutely hates emulators with a burning passion! And guess where Nintendo is originated from? Yes, Japan! They have very strict rules over there when it comes to emulators, and since most of Nintendo's power comes from Japan, that's probably the reason they try to take down Nintendo emulators.

[@__BlacklotuS__]

nintendo haters will reach for anything

[@coltonwittgreve8905]

​@@nascour5991 the switch emulator was taken down because of having a paid discord and selling Tears of the kingdom Early via the discord

[@pepopesek5742]

@@nascour5991 Nintendo isnt why those things are gone, It was a Copyright Troll, definently

[@Kyouka-Jirou1]

15:24 I hated that bug where you would trip and fall randomly I'm so glad they took it out in Wii U And Ultimate 😕

[@Omeleaffe]

@yagorosell2103 We all know the next sentence

[@cadetjones9205]

​@yagorosell2103It's a feature.

[@pustulioyo]

You answered your own question within the first minute of your video. People were disappointed with Byleth's reveal because Nintendo honestly went a little too hard with the DLC that came before him/her. They had just added Joker, Hero, Banjo, and Terry, four very popular and in high demand third-party characters fans were begging to be included, especially Hero (well, Erdrick, luckily he's an alt color), go ahead and double that hype for Banjo. That was one hell of an act to follow, people would have been disappointed with literally any choice shy of someone like Crash Bandicoot or Master Chief. Everyone stopped complaining the very moment Min-Min was announced, then people stop being bad about her once Steve was announced. I got to tell you, the community was just peachy keen after that, I heard absolutely no complaints about any of the DLC character choices after Steve, they were all great choices and finished up with what is arguably the most in demand and at the time seemingly impossible characters to include, Sora. Byleth is by far the least interesting of all the DLC characters, but in a group of DLC fighters where every option is an 8 out of 10 at the minimum, he's still pretty neat and I'm glad he was added to the game! I get real sick and tired of the anime sword fighter argument, besides, we all know the prominence of Fire Emblem characters is due to Sakurai's personal taste in video games, he absolutely loves RPGs, a genre that is represented in Smash more than any other genre except for platformers, because, wouldn't you know it, Super Smash Bros is a platform fighter and platformer characters translate the easiest. It reminds me that there is basically one genre of video games that is entirely unrepresented in Smash Bros unless you count a spin-off: first person shooters. Samus is the only character who you can argue is from a first person shooter, but Metroid as a series is a platformer and Metroid Prime technically is a spin-off of that. I guess Inkling is kind of close, but Splatoon is more of a turf war disguised as a third person shooter. There are characters from almost literally every other genre, platformers, life simulators, RPGs, fighters, racers, stealth and espionage, world building, action adventure, hack and slash, minigames, health and fitness, flight simulators, puzzlers, even real life console accessories. Okay, I guess there's no rhythm game character, but there aren't very many of those around, I can only think of PaRappa the Rapper. Those are basically the only untouched genres in terms of Smash Bros fighter representation, we don't have a first person shooter fighter and we don't have a rhythm game fighter. The first person shooter character surprises me the most, it's the one genre Nintendo has never really dived into and the one time they did, Metroid Prime, it wasn't developed by them and was not their idea, it was developed by a group of gun loving Americans! It's such an important genre, especially to the history of video games overall, it's kind of amazing it is unrepresented in the most celebrated video game crossover ever.

[@papersonic9941]

17:39 Lyn's age was changed in International versions of FE7, so they changed the Trophy to reflect that.

[@xinpingdonohoe3978]

Why does our culture have such a magic number? It's extremely disappointing.

[@phoenixchampion7]

@@xinpingdonohoe3978 Japan really just views America as immature a lot of the time. And to be fair all things considered, they're kinda right. We kinda just freak out whenever something doesn't fit our culture, especially back then. Take Paper Mario TTYD for example. In the original release of the game Vivian's Gender identity was censored from the American Release because we would whine about Transgenderism. Now in the Remaster Vivian's gender identity is released internationally... But the car calling Goomba's are censored because we're now too immature for punk characters hitting on a woman.

[@xinpingdonohoe3978]

@@phoenixchampion7 oh yes. That actually adds up. It's a prudish and puritan culture. They make up nonsense rules, and cry when others don't follow them. What a way to live...

[@xinpingdonohoe3978]

@@phoenixchampion7 that actually makes sense. A prudish, puritan culture that makes up nonsense rules and cries when other people don't follow them.

[@justinyoon2840]

@@phoenixchampion7As of what you’ve said so far, it’s one of the reasons why people will always hate on everything and aren’t mental enough. Truly is that America is so damn COOKED.

[@MuSICisLiFman]

Oh so thats what happened to smash overload because I remember seeing posts about those character trailers and then nothing else. Shocked that it didnt get shut down faster with the whole kickstarter

[@MrLuigiBean1]

Love the use of the Boss music from Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games DS at 10:01! It's one of the most underrated songs out there for sure.

[@TheGamersState]

Did....Did you just call Dante an activision character? Blasphemy I say! But it's cool, we all make mistakes, great video regardless.

[@Siiroth]

Yeah my bad 😔😔😔

[@mkcstealth7624]

Ok but the Smash 64 52 minute long stall match mustve been insane to watch unfold in real time. I can only image the anger of the audience

[@yaniktheyoutuber]

Really dumb that they wanted 10k for overload, when mods should always be free because they’re using Nintendo’s ip

[@Kyouka-Jirou1]

Well.. Even If Samus Is Censored She's Still Considered Suggestive 🤔

[@lk_3099]

Has there been a fighting game with zero competitive controversy? The character bans feel ridiculous in concept.

[@Dantel1423]

when byleth was anounced we actually were thinking we get Dante becouse Devil may cry creators were hyping nintendo direct at that date

[@mattsopiratoso790]

Death Threating poor Sakurai? These mfs need Jesus. I hate Byleth as much as the next guy, but bruh. That's just plain old evil.

[@HammySigvard]

And not just Byleth. Back when Ultimate was announced at E3 2018, we saw yet again Waluigi becoming an assist trophy. Some people were so mad that they’ve sent death treats on Sakurai’s Twitter and eventually get blocked and suspended. I don’t know a lot about this but I’m sure people were very pissed that Waluigi was an assist trophy for the 3rd time (same case can apply for Shadow or Issac)

[@mattsopiratoso790]

@@HammySigvard The poor guy. I know Nintendo sucks, but Sakurai is genuinely talented and hard working. The love shown in Kirby games, the return of Kid Icarus, the ammount of work in Ultimate. That all shows that he does his best. The world isn't perfect. People need to get that. It's good to criticize, don't get me wrong! Just don't traumatize people. We are not wild animals. Or at least, I hope, lmao!

[@INFERNO95]

​@@HammySigvardWaluigi is a filler character. They need to grow up.

[@mattsopiratoso790]

@INFERNO95 Yeah. They probably don't want to add him due to creativity issues too. Sonic for some reason still doesn't have Sonic Battle Attacks (that are quite unique) or the Spin Kick from Sonic Advance. So, Idk if they would have issues with designing his kit. At least we got a lot of insane character content. Never thought Steve would make it.

[@Iliveinuratticandatethepizza]

Man, if HE was still here... he'd know what to do... Sadly, he passed too soon...

[@myang12003]

I remembered playing in an official SSBU live online tournament and I fought against players named “FREE MELEE” in that tournament.

[@ahritheninetailedfoxnaotos8246]

Despite Byleth getting backlash by being included into Smash Ultimate, actually brought me into the Fire Emblem community and yes, I did buy Three Houses because of the DLC (along with Xenoblade 2) and I must say I absolutely love Fire Emblem mechanic, gameplay, and story wise.

[@kingkoltron857]

Okay just saying that Samus with 2 blasters looks sick ngl

[@FixTheWi-Fi]

wow, people were once mad that there *wasnt* Pit or a Fire Emblem character in the game?

[@Sly88Frye]

17:56 There was a big full length indie film for melee? I honestly had no idea. Then again I've always liked each new Smash Bros game better than the last.

[@cosmaraul1279]

Kind of off topic but now nintendo is forcing GMOD to delete their nintendo related addons from steam.

[@MLSPokeman]

As a Super Smash Bros Player, I loved this video and editing style! Well Done Homie!

[@Siiroth]

Appreciate it fr :))

[@SearingSeratil]

The biggest controversy was ZS-Samus getting a smaller bust, which is another reason that every game should get a boob slider. Alright, thank you for coming to my tedtalk.

[@WizLeMonke]

Bro should check out Seven Pirates H. 💀

[@Nobody_Shroom]

Don't forget what they did to my boi snake. Dat @ss will be remembered

[@FryGuy2.0]

Congratulations on 100k subs 😊

[@Siiroth]

Thank you so much!

[@henryvanalmen113]

Great Vid, I learned a lot, but you forgot to mention in brawl thanks to sonic being slow (ironically enough) with development, wolf, toon link and jigglypuff wouldnt even be in the game.

[@__BlacklotuS__]

zelda getting nerfed to oblivion was my most hated smash moment

[@RufioTheThird]

I was pretty young when Byleth was announced and I remember being excited for someone like Conker to join since I was super hyped about Banjo & Kazooie. Thought, I knew it wasn't a dealbreaker since Terry came with an announcement of another Fighters Pass. When it ended up being Byleth as the final Fighter Pass 1 character, I didn't know what to feel. I thought it'd all be third-party, so I expected a third-party character. Though, at the same time, it wasn't all disappointment since I had the same reaction to them as I did with Hero and Terry. I knew it wasn't for me and that people from the other part of the word was popping off. Then I saw the outrage that unfolded, these grown men and women on social media. I guess it makes sense, I mean, if you're a Western fan, you pay for a Fighters Pass and you expect them all to be banger third-party characters, and then the final one is a character from a second-party franchise that is considered niece in your region, from a franchise you consider to be over-represented. I guess that makes sense, so the whole "it is optional DLC" argument doesn't fully apply, I feel you can say that today, though if someone complaints in hindsight. Like, just don't buy it. Nowadays, I am actually a defender of Byleth in Smash and the FE rep in general now when I have a deeper understanding for the franchise, its reputation and popularity in Japan. Plus, Smash is an obvious way to represent and therefor marketing Nintendo's niecer franchises to a wider audience which has payed off, if you ask me (not even taking into consideration how every FE game features a new protag, making them more relevant than, let's say Waluigi or Geno). What with Fire Emblem games nowadays cracking at least a million copies which is insane for a Japanese tactical RPG, which one of the least popular genres in gaming. Oh, and great video. Gonna get a like from me!

[@simon-ricardokuhn1713]

What really was controversial in Brawl for me is how "rigged" the AI is, going only after the player, even in a FFA. It's even mentioned in SSBWiki (in Flaws in artifical intelligence) and it's hated by lots of people.

[@ephraimx7]

THIS! I made a custom stage with an area you could only get to with really precise platforming just to try and make the ai fight itself in ffa and it literally just threw a jab occasionally while just wiggling back and forth on main stage directly above and that was when I went back to melee 😇

[@weebsquit347]

I know it's probably not the case, but imagine if the reason we got a 2nd Fighters Pass was because of Byleth being the last one in the first pass.

[@Bombetina_Again]

A video concept that would be cool is one about controversies with newcomers in general. like when Americans got mad because they didn't know who Terry was

[@fishingmaster69]

I have seen Americans get mad over Joker, Hero, Byleth, Pyra, Mytha and Kazuya reveals as well so I think it's nothing really that special (all these characters are way more popular in Asian terrorists)

[@Bombetina_Again]

@@fishingmaster69 i not asking to just be that type of controversy, there is alot of different controversies with other newcomers, like inklings being considered a too recent to put on smash ultimate (which doesn't make any sense since we had the Wii Fit Trainer in Smash 4) or people hatings Steve onoucement for some reason (this before he launches and we find out how broken it is) or even banjo being hated just because he not everyone playstyle. I think it's a fun idea, but I understand you don't find it a very interesting topic

[@dcb99filmz]

sounds like someone didn't play CvS or KOF

[@AlexMerriam]

I knew about terry before smash bros ultimate and im a western fan.

[@Gashnaw]

"Do you not have phones?" It may not be Nintendo related, but that panel is not easily found on youtube and if you go to watch it from Blizzard itself they cut that part out. The question and answer is cut completely from the video as they move to the next one.

[@WillelmusIV]

Fire Emblem is probably my favourite Nintendo franchise. My only complaint with Byleth being added is that it was too predictable, and it might have been more interesting had they added a different character from Three Houses.

[@randomnerdontheinternet967]

Hey Siroth, Here are some things I wish to point out concerning the Smash 64 section of your video: 1. To my knowledge, no one got scammed from Smash Overload. People just warned others to not donate to this mod. 2. The only stage that got banned as a result of Tacna 2014 is Hyrule Castle. 64 Kongo Jungle, 64 Peach's Castle and Saffron City were banned for different reasons. 3. Can you provide any proof that letters were sent to Nintendo due to rumored characters not being in Smash 64? If not, then this shouldn't have been put into the video.

[@RedRiotGamez]

"AcThUaLlY" ☝🤓

[@Brob2nd]

Smash remix not mentioned :(

[@randomnerdontheinternet967]

@@Brob2nd Smash Remix was shown tho ; )

[@grawman67]

​@@RedRiotGamezVery clever and funny!

[@GabeNwagbalaPlus]

Happy 25th to the series!

[@Oscar92839]

0:50 coffin left the chat (like we care lol) 😂😂

[@KBroly]

I'm surprised you didn't mention Brawl's upload feature for photos/videos and the controversy there. EDIT: Contracts for DLC characters in Season 2 were likely done around the time the game launched, not before the release of the first character in the second fighter's pass.

[@Kyouka-Jirou1]

26:47 Fun Fact It's Not Just Mai That's Not In Ultimate, Luong And Kula Diamond Are Not There Either 😅

[@scorpiot4563]

I would've been a Mew main 😭 i cant believe they never put him in knowing how slow mewtwo is

[@Brob2nd]

SMASH REMIX MENTIONED LET'S GO

[@FalseRadiation]

Smash isn’t really my thing but you made me watch 36 minute video on this 👍

[@BlazeFiresoul]

I don’t think there was much controversy about Sephiroth because he’s that cool of a character and villain. But I do have a problem with the fact that he isn’t SSBU’s version of UMVC3 Vergil. Because Sephiroth is the only character I’d allow being broken.

[@crimsonstormsurge]

People went so over the top with things like byleth. I may have had certain characters I wanted but didn’t get but as long as the character is fun to play and has cool moves I don’t really care

[@JAPANESE_MAPLE]

13:06 the mark rober music

[@Hi_im_Titus]

Can't wait for the next siiroth upload in 6 months

[@craigmoon2121]

How can they force someone to return their prize money though? Unless there's an official legal contract for it that they had to sign before the tournament, which I doubt.

[@Kade503]

In reality the whole Panda cup thing was blown way out of proportion and by killing Panda the single chance of a more legimate, lucrative, smash competitive scene is now dead. Panda actually had commuication with Nintendo for many years, and they were just telling the truth as far as needing to sign up in order to be apart of it as well as meeting certain minimum things to be considerded for a Nintendo tournament license, like not comlete garbage securtiy etc... What completely blew it up is when VGA bootcamp couldn't get a license from Nintendo because their tournaments not even being able to meet the bare minimum required, planning future tournaments well before they'd be able to even be approved for a license and plenty of other mismangement and then crying foul. But whatever, Allen very well could have come off as hostile which is why he stopped being the commincator with TOs(but the internet was already starting hurling non-stop death threats at all of Panda at this point) but I would probably be hostile too considering it really was the only way to get any sort push forward for the Smash competitive scene that would benefit everyone since Nintendo will take charge of it adn never hold anything other than a random all stage/item 1st place is a switch/Nintendo product tourney. Dammit, was trying not to rant, oh well. There's plenty of real info on this now for anyone interested. This is why we can't have nice things.

[@jacobsiron6929]

I was honestly less upset that the fighter reveal was _Byleth_, and more that I _woke up at 4 AM_ to find out it was Byleth; my reaction was p much just "yeah that's neat and makes sense I guess but I'd have preferred three more hours of sleep" Like, yes, Byleth wasn't exactly the most conceptually exciting character reveal, but c'mon, man :/

[@kyrtuck]

Hey Byleth isn't just an anime sword character. They also use a bow, axe and whip.

[@ExistentialCrisis1984]

Smash community more controversial than South Park 😊 I JUST NOTICED LATE AF HAPPY 100K BRO

[@cptangry]

29:46 bro had to pray to his anime waifu real quick LOL

[@UltimateDragonX9999]

Hope that you’ll do wanted characters for smash bros 6/smash bros ultimate deluxe port.

[@Siiroth]

Definitely will at some point!

[@LucasMantin]

Why is the song at 22:58 so damn hype when nothing exciting is happening

[@Jelly_shy_guy_man]

THE GOAT IS BACK BABY

[@TheLegendaryAce1]

24:54 bro when I first played smash I didn’t know what the hell a fire emblem was, I just though Ike was badass

[@grunkleg.2934]

There are a shocking amount of people who are still pressed about Byleth to this day. Like elite levels of copium

[@BraydenBomb2006]

99 percent y’all saying “copium” have never seen or ingested real opium 🤐

[@Nicl-As-05]

9:59-10:39 NOSTALGICAAA!!!😭 Also congrats for the 100K!👏

[@Siiroth]

Thank you!!

[@Nicl-As-05]

@@Siiroth You're welcome.😉

[@Sly88Frye]

21:15 Wait what? I remember when I first played Super Smash Bros for Nintendo 3DS when it first came out that I was finding myself to actually play really well with Greninja. Then I started playing online with them and I wasn't feeling good about how I played as that fighter so I went back to the main I had in brawl who is still my main Sonic especially since he's better and smash for and ultimate than he wasn't brawl anyway, but yeah suddenly I wasn't really any good at using Greninja. I thought it was just that perhaps maybe I wasn't as good with the fighter as I thought I was although I'm sure that's part of it but I wonder if the nerf had anything to do with it.

[@shadowpupp3t81]

I forgot the blizzard controversy

[@kylespevak6781]

0:55 I hate when people cite this. Pokemon is way more than a video game. Cards and merch make them a metric ass ton of money, the games are basically ads for the new creatures

[@imjustcody]

Congrats on 100K

[@Siiroth]

Thank you!!

[@UrielJoseph-w8n]

Why is Link in the brawl cover art at 18:41 different then his actual look on other cover arts

[@Drfreaky-kms]

Bruh someone should sue Nintendo for wrongful copyright usage. There is no way that all of this is legal.

[@Naoto-kun1085]

Nobody has the guts, we need people to start standing up against Nintendo

[@kichiroumitsurugi4363]

@@Naoto-kun1085 And money

[@mattalan6618]

i have never played this series but i do like watching videos on it

[@Aureliants]

Bro, Dante would have been the most iconic 😞

[@samuelmelendez7566]

What about people in the Smash community who supposedly ate kids

[@OKF.]

I don’t think that had anything to do with the games

[@xinpingdonohoe3978]

What the саnnibаI? What's this about?

[@Whitesnake273]

​@@xinpingdonohoe3978 Starts with N and ends with O

[@xinpingdonohoe3978]

@@Whitesnake273 no? NATO? Nintendo? Nokonoko? Nero? Nemo? Nidorino? Nando? Nostromo? Neutrino?

[@Whitesnake273]

@@xinpingdonohoe3978 Nairo lol

[@Rainbowplayz-ix5ix]

1:21 Meanwhile me who mains byleth

[@kiawegamer]

Hi, I have a weird question, can anybody tell me what's the music theme used behind Kazuya starting at 32:18

[@konflicted1729]

I think it's dk 64 music or banjo

[@kiawegamer]

@@konflicted1729 I found it already, is actually a Kevin McLeod theme, called Impending Boom, but thanks

[@DigiPen92]

Dang, the competitive bans liking certain characters & banning characters feel like it's feels too forced and going too far. Also, I'm in the Byleth Defense & a Fire Emblem fan. I never heard there was death threats towards Fire Emblem fans. This is sick and disgusting. Also for the Activision-Blizzard part, I'm glad that Sakurai didn't add Crash Bandicoot nor any Activision-Blizzard parts in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate. That news of the Securitary's death from toxic work place and CEO's Bobby Kotick's was the one send death threat to her actual did sparked the news & it was sickening. Having trying to add Crash to SSBU in felt very forced and illogical addition to SSBU. Crash doesn't fit into SSB. Also, I'm glad that Phil Spencer from Microsoft bought Activision-Blizzard to clean up the toxicity and problems that Activision-Blizzard had going through and justify the work conditions to make it fair.

[@justinyoon2840]

I am still pissed for the death threats due to Byleth added in the game. Like it’s just a fighting game it ain’t that DEEP.

[@jakubklemenski7380]

Thank you that you didn't include Byleth. Fans acted like spoiled little brats who cried because a new Fire Emblem character even though Byleth is one of the most unique FE characters in Smash

[@easiestcc6451]

us REAL smash fans have a justified hatred of fire emblem

[@phoenixburns79]

​@@easiestcc6451 I'm pretty sure being a real fan of a game means you appreciate the game for what it is but thats just me

[@carlosemilio385]

⁠@@phoenixburns79yeah, I was disappointed about the Byleth reveal as well, but I don’t justify death threats or absolute hatred towards a company for only a video game character which isn’t even real. But I don’t know, maybe that’s just me.

[@mobpego1345]

@@easiestcc6451L

[@DOGEELLL]

​@@easiestcc6451LMAO you just admitted you have the worst taste in gaming Smash was never good always been garbage