Xbox Multiplatform Strategy Now Makes A Lot More Sense

[@ninovosstek]

I bought my XSX because of Gamepass and the controller is better. I bought my PS5 Pro because I only paid $45 for it. I’m a fan of both. I love gaming. Building a PC is my next project.

[@Gamer-vs3xl]

How did you only pay $45 for a ps5 pro?

[@danl1620]

@@Gamer-vs3xlProbably traded in his old ps5 + games and the $45 is the difference he had to pay.

[@christonchev9762]

y i just don't know why some ppl think that the PS5/Xbox X are THE gaming device to go when that's not true cause its PC all the way and y that's the best thing u can do buy a decent PC/Buuild it and then if u want to u can buy a PS5/Xbox as a 2nd gaming device andthen maybe a handheld

[@danl1620]

@@christonchev9762 Most casual gamers don’t want to put together a pc. I just got back into gaming after about 5 years and I decided to buy a pro. When it comes to simplicity PS5 and Xbox are THE gaming devices.

[@ninovosstek]

@ I had $440 store credit and traded in a slim PS5. I also took my disc drive off my slim to pop on my Pro.

[@CC-Tron]

The current industry situation is analogous to the card game Uno. Xbox slapped down a wild card and changed the color in play from blue to green. Third party publishers are now leaving blue exclusivity deals behind and are never going back. PS is forced to play the few green cards they have and there are no more wild cards to play. PS is now racking up L's each time it's their turn and they don't have any green cards in hand.

[@gogolpoe1776]

one of the best analogies ive seen in awhile! kudos!

[@tr1bes]

I used to be a level designer during the 6th generation. The softwares (3Dmax, Maya, Lightwave, Photoshop, and etc) I use are on PC. I imported it to PS2 format via ps2 software kit. So yes, every video games are made originally from PC.

[@maiconlucas9246]

This is why Microsoft reports users per month

[@LurnWell]

I disagree on why this is happening. This is the plan Xbox had from the beginning. They used to call their gaming department a tech department. Xbox live existed before PSN. They were just waiting on the public to adjust. Xbox live was always the plan. Microsoft has always been linked to through Bing, Edge, etc.. They never separated. They've always been slowly integrating. They are simply placing Gamepass everywhere, just like they did Windows. The console exists to push their digital space. There's no way Xbox was ever just going to stay on hardware. That's "never" been Microsoft's style. Never..

[@danl1620]

So you’re telling me during the conception of the Xbox they already knew they were going to stop making Xboxes in the near future 😂?

[@LurnWell]

@danl1620 You misunderstand. Going beyond hardware was always the plan. They've been trying to do it for years in the gaming industry. They've been restricted to tradition, which is what SONY was fighting for in court.. Even though consoles weren't created for exclusive gaming...

[@danl1620]

@@LurnWell No I understand, I just disagree. Had the Xbox outsold the PlayStation we would not be hearing about the end of Xbox the console. Xbox wasn’t forced to join the console market, they chose to, got dominated and now all of a sudden they never really wanted to make consoles to begin with 😂.

[@LurnWell]

@danl1620 I just can't see Xbox live not expanding to PC gaming after Windows has a software platform to extend the experience. Microsoft became a trillion dollar business from partnerships and service providing. I'd argue the only reason they did it slowly was because it went too much against the tradition SONY established. Just look at the reaction for trying to go fully all digital years ago.... They always wanted to be Netflix..Just couldn't, because Blockbuster ran everything. I get your stance, but I can't see a mainly non hardware company sticking to hardware. SONY has always specialized in hardware.

[@moister3727]

So you saying Xbox now is Gamepass and Live? Back in the 360 days it wasn't like this

[@mynameismud-qd9vu]

Nintendo did the same thing when they were getting pummeled. They gave up trying to compete with the traditional console model and went hybrid handheld. That's because it's a better strategy for them, just as Microsoft sees putting their software and Game Pass on as many devices as possible as the better strategy. Personally, I think Microsoft has the right strategy. Once your game sales have hit their peak on your console why continue to hold them hostage? There's more money to be made on other consoles! The console warriors hate it, but that's why the console warriors aren't running a console platform.

[@aooaooapoooopa]

Love these non bias videos just analyzing the market for what it is and where the data leads. Your channel itself is a unique selling point in the gaming market right now

[@VGFightSchool]

Thank you for the kind words!

[@danl1620]

Unbiased?? He clearly hates Sony 😂 or he’s just capitalizing on the fact that it’s trendy to hate Sony right now.

[@VGFightSchool]

I'm a PlayStation user. Criticism of a company is not hate. Only brand loyalists see it as that.

[@tr1bes]

​@@danl1620Im more into PS but do have Xbox as my 2ndary unit. I do object on buying xbox series though because of Game Pass. I don't see in renting games but having it physically is my preference. Xbox is slowly getting rid of physical games. As for the video, I do see his viewpoints. The ecosystem of console are moving toward PC ecosystem. I was born in the 70s and get my taste of video game (Atari 2600 and NES) in the 80s. The progression was that console was trying to meet the arcades back then. The Dreamcast was the pinnacle of arcade console at home. PS1, Saturn and N64 was a step closer to arcade but not fully until Soul Calibur 2 was presented on Dreamcast. So with this same step, the console of today are heading toward PC.

[@OloNadTrolo]

I'm fine with Xbox games going everywhere as I'm a fan of their 1st party offerings and going everywhere means minimizing the risk. Look at the Sony 1st party - Spiderman 2 and Helldivers 2 were huge hits, but Concord flopped and reportedly lost up to $400M... which means it likely wiped most of the profit made on SM2 and HD2. Having HD2 on Xbox would bring extra revenue, and as such make Sony's publishing a more stable, predictable business... Which is why they're dipping their toes with Lego Horizon on the Switch and that's likely not the last game we'll see on Nintendo and Xbox. Games are simply too expensive today, they have to minimize the risk and maximize the revenue. I'm also looking forward to the day Nintendo starts publishing on PC (and they'll likely utilize the very emulators they're suppressing right now 🤣)

[@christonchev9762]

y and if u saw the last selling charts on PS side Helldivers 2 is nowere to be found( its on 35th spot) while on PC it seats on 3rd spot but u know what we don't see on PC been played?GTA 5

[@OloNadTrolo]

@@christonchev9762 GTA5 is #5 on Steam's most played chart (worldwide, in terms of daily peak CCU). Helldivers 2 is #66 on the same chart.

[@DK5TY]

I like when I buy a game on xbox I can play it on my pc also without paying for an extra copy and the cloud save transfers back in forth. I been doing this for Metaphor and it's great

[@tr1bes]

That Concord is a flop alright. I think the market is already saturated with that kind of genre game (battle royal) Ex. Overwatch, Fortnite, Justice League, and etc. As for Spiderman 2 and HD2. I look it up on their budget and their overall profit. HD2 budget is $100 mil (They claimed $50-$100 mil) Sold at $1.28 Billion SM2 budget at $300 mil Sold at $600 mil. I did other SONY IPs too and they all make better profit (without PC). SM2 is ok but Concord is like the 1st big mistake. The other is VITA TV, PS Vita and possibly the PSVR2.

[@retrobros9684]

Really Good Analysis

[@stephenarkless9444]

If you can’t beat them at their own game create your own game

[@JohnnyWithin]

Wounder how the Steam store on the next Xbox will work

[@De1usionsofGrandeur]

I dont think it will be think it ll just be the Microsoft store... since doubt Microsoft would want to give up the 100% revenue gain on their own console but I could be wrong

[@FewCan456]

I think they will make a console-PC hybrid and there will be an Xbox mode and a Windows mode. Similar to SteamOS in desktop mode, you'd be able to access Steam and other launchers through Windows mode (hypothetically). The Xbox mode would incentivize people buying games on Xbox's store for ease of use

[@aggressiveoatmealmemes6881]

@@De1usionsofGrandeurthey’d still make a portion of sales if they had steam on the platform

[@MouseKeyboardPlayer]

Blocking out Steam users will make them way less money anway, even with a 30% cut. Having Steam players buy an Xbox handheld with their Steam library on it will help sell the handheld. Some of those users will funnel into GamePass and subscribe.

[@De1usionsofGrandeur]

@@aggressiveoatmealmemes6881 they dont want a portion for their own hardware they want the full pie there. They are fine with a portion. When putting games outside their hardware

[@BombzOnZombz]

I had the fat OG Xbox One with Kinect that whole Gen and it was glorious. That day one fat Xbox One held it down all the way to I not the Xbox One X.

[@scarface43Gaming]

Most of my Library is physical Xbox one games man I was there very early 2014 when they dropped the Kinect, migrated form 360

[@tr1bes]

360 is the pinnacle of XBOX. The 8th and 9th gen of Xbox is a let down.

[@Kudos2_Me]

I think you hit the nail on the head. There is only one thing that is a little off. Microsoft didn’t shift to other platforms because they were losing. PC was their goal since the start of Xbox. Microsoft wanted “a PC In every living room” and the only reason Xbox console was created is because the technology wasn’t there to sell affordable gaming PCs and Windows wasn’t trusted by developers. So Xbox has been building to this from the start. They just wanted to keep Playstation off of PC as much as possible, which they 100% succeeded in doing. You can clearly see this from the name of Xbox which is actually “Direct Xbox” derived from the Microsoft API “DirectX”.

[@WaxDat8800]

And this is exactly the point I been making for 6 years now.

[@BombzOnZombz]

Xbox Gamepass gonna be on the Lenovo PlayStation 7, it'll be an Xbox too 😂

[@DK5TY]

I like when I buy a game on xbox I can play it on my pc also without paying for an extra copy and the cloud save transfers back in forth. I been doing this for Metaphor and it's great

[@amirranjbar1995]

Yesss that’s so good specially for using the save on an rog ally! It’s so essential imo

[@cosmopock1743]

First consoles went to x86 architecture moving to PC is natural next step, Steam could end them in one move if he just promoted next Steam machine as a console.

[@Dkm337]

I think no, Steam machine means its a Console style of ecosystem where it will use wall power yet not going to deliver performance throughout its life cycle, you can only optimize so much then you have to have new hardware. PC is the better platform because of modular upgrades, not the entire system one has to throwout(metaphor). and buy a New one.

[@cosmopock1743]

​@@Dkm337If PlayStation and Xbox are moving into the PC space, there will eventually be no significant differences in terms of components. Just look at the Steam Deck's compatibility and specifications-it supports a wide range of AAA games despite being underpowered compared to even the lowest-tier GPUs. Additionally, you would already have access to the largest game library through Steam. Valve could take the opposite approach to what Microsoft is doing right now, especially considering that Steam is far more popular.

[@zerosam5541]

​@@cosmopock1743 they make too much money for paying to play online they wont move to pc

[@cosmopock1743]

@@zerosam5541 They already have. There are PC games that require a PSN account to play, and with PlayStation Plus Premium, you don’t even need a console to play PS3, PS4, or PS5 games. On top of that, Gabe has shown significant interest in consoles. There was even a time when you could install Steam on a PlayStation 3.

[@cosmopock1743]

@@zerosam5541 They already have. There are PC games that require a PSN account to play, and with PlayStation Plus Premium, you don’t even need a console to play PS3, PS4, or PS5 games. On top of that, Gabe has shown significant interest in consoles. There was even a time when you could install Steam on a PlayStation 3.

[@csh9853]

still waiting for GT to come to pc

[@tr1bes]

You mean Grand Turismo. Perhaps.

[@csh9853]

@tr1bes yes

[@repaate]

The omly problem i have whit the video your mic mb makes your voice difficult to hear you gotta idk incrae the volume a bit more..

[@megilacuttyjones735]

Agreed 💯

[@TremelJackson]

Xbox gave the console market to Sony and went somewhere else 😂

[@WaxDat8800]

Because the console market does not work. Ask Jim Ryan.😂😂😂😂

[@rajah316]

Microsoft Xbox wants their games every where as well Phil Spencer also said in the past they would like other store fronts on the Xbox eco system. I have no idea what Playstation would do if other game stores end up on Xbox.

[@tr1bes]

Would you think Nintendo want to put their games and or store on Xbox? I think if Im Nintendo, NOOOO.

[@rajah316]

I don't think Nintendo would ever no But at the end of the day It's all about making money & maximize profits for corporations.

[@rajah316]

@@tr1bes I can see steam & or Epic game store though going to Xbox though. I wonder what Sony would do if Steam store goes on the next Xbox

[@tr1bes]

@@rajah316 time will tell. So far, Game Pass and Xbox games are on Steam. You have to account that Steam has the Steam Deck. As Xbox wants to go handheld which will be a Steam Deck competitor, would it benefit Steam.

[@tr1bes]

@@rajah316 think as if you're Steam? Does Xbox new handheld compete against your own Steam Deck? Also given that the handheld king, Nintendo, looms in the back.

[@ragingmonk6080]

I'm a PC only gamer. Saw a thumbnail on a video tonight that showed a dirty trash can and it read, "This is an Xbox". I thought, Why did they put a PlayStation in the thumbnail. Again, I own no Xbox do not use game pass. I am straight PC. Wink, wink, I buy games.

[@tr1bes]

I use to be a PC gamers back then. Im coming back to it. 1987-2000 I was a console gamer. 2000-2008 PC gamer. 2008-2022/3 console gamer 2023-now. Both PC gamer and console. I think I left the PC back then was because of cheaters and hackers on PC gaming. I think today will be better but I could be wrong. Im a 50 year old gamer. My eye hand coordination are bad.

[@ragingmonk6080]

@@tr1bes "Im a 50 year old gamer." I am 54.

[@raymondnieves3710]

VG you be playing some good stuff on your videos can you please put the name of the game and at what fps are are playing it! I like to know! Thanks!

[@VGFightSchool]

This is the demo for the game Enotria: Last Song. I think it was running at like 60fps or so.

[@raymondnieves3710]

@ already in the wishlist thanks!👊🏼😎

[@Doomguy666.-ob3vc]

Think I'm gonna look it up as well.👍

[@loitersquadX]

😂... people want console and that demand didnt die. The economy, covid, and new direction of games is the reason the console is low sales. Go look at how many 360 and xbox one even one s and one x users are there . The series xs are not really enticing. Thats why im saying xbox needs to go ahead and continue the xbox one /360 straregy even tho it failed once. Market xbox as the only device u need. It can give u windows 11, all the stream apps, console experience, vr, kinect, guitar hero, etc

[@Gewtb]

Your calculator😂😂

[@idacrow7694]

As far as I know Xbox does not share sales

[@kylewilliah4802]

My god...now you notice..... Your slow for college education

[@christonchev9762]

they are all point that the PS is no match for the Xbox and its outselling it 3/1 but yet again why does Sony making Exclusive Games like Black Myth and why did Pearl Abys and Square rejected them?why they are relesing those AAA Games on PC if they are so healthy?

[@fvjtfjnx6535]

1. Black Myth Wukong was also on PC otherwise it would have bombed. 2. Pearl Abyss is multiplayer and would have been restricted to one platform so would have bombed. 3. Square wasnt offered a high enough swag bag because Sony is broke because both Square and Sony bombed.

[@MoodieJazz17]

I love this exbox channel. True PC gamers don’t care about consoles at all. Now it makes sense why Sony is getting bashed lmao

[@danl1620]

@@MoodieJazz17 This is supposed to be a neutral unbiased channel but you just called it an Xbox channel, that speaks volumes 😂. PC and Xbox gamers are clearly joining forces to tarnish Sonys name. Yes Sony deserves to be critiqued for certain business practices but there’s a ton of unwarranted hate being spouted.

[@MoodieJazz17]

@@danl1620I used to like the channel when he was posting Gotham Knights content. Now idk what happened. Rather see new content about gaming in general. Including coverage & gameplay on new games. Seeing that every single video now has something to do with Sony comes off as some type of hatred towards them.

[@VGFightSchool]

I think the question here is: Am I saying anything wrong or inaccurate. That's the litmus test. When I made Gotham Knights content, I went against the grain and EVERYONE big or small KZbinrs (Luke Stephens, Skillup, Whitelight etc) in order for us to know the truth about Gotham Knights combat. I stayed on that topic until almost everyone got to see that they were mistaken about the game's combat system. Why would I treat PlayStation/Xbox analysis any different? Shall I lick PlayStation's boots for you to enjoy the content?

[@christonchev9762]

@@danl1620 sure there is for all 4 platforms but Sony is doing more harm things than good things to the consumer u know.Why would u force PC gamers to use PSN when they have 0 use of it and they throw u the protection crap when u have Steam protection and DRM

[@yaboipele34]

I prefer Xbox but I always thought the “half of PS5s are sitting in scalper garages” was just a fanboy narrative.

[@TheDayMang]

There is a discrepancy for sure, not 50% though

[@yaboipele34]

@ there always is. Collectors have NES’s still unopened in the box from 1985. Almost 9 million is a lot though.

[@josiahsuarez]

Xbox sucks

[@christonchev9762]

but u want their games right?