Vibrato: When Should One Start Learning Vibrato?

[@geoffosborne4720]

What a good teacher this lady is - a Joy to watch, thank you!

[@JoyLeeViolin]

Awww... you are so kind Geoff. Thank you so very much!

[@sting1111]

I should have known you did a video addressing my question in your other vibrato video. Thanks

[@thisislawte8159]

to be honest i have been trying out vibrato for a year... i still cannot do it. I thought maybe i wasnt ready but i can do the things you mentioned. I just have major tension issues i think haha. I can do it a little bit with a down bow but up bow is 10x harder! Anyway i keep trying and thank you so much for your videos!! (:

[@shipsahoy1793]

Thanks Joy ! 👨🏻

[@merrybits]

I also often hear that a student should have a solid intonation before starting with vibrato in order to avoid covering up intonation problems with vibrato instead of learning correct finger positions.

[@whenandwhy8380]

Really? Maybe because this my intonation is not very good. Do I have to use the guide on the fingerboard to learn the fingering?

[@urieluy2025]

That's very true. Having secure pitch and intonation is one of the first things we must achieve when learning the violin, but it also takes a lot of time and practice, so most violinists learn vibrato when they can play most of the notes in tune.

[@merrybits]

@@whenandwhy8380 If you start vibrato before you can *hear* that a note is correct, this might make learning both more difficult. Vibrato should create a wave of pitches below the correct pitch. If have not yet learned how to hear the correct pitch, it will not be possible to calibrate the vibrato correctly below this pitch, even if you know how to do the vibrato movement itself. Teaching good intonation to your muscles right away will save you many, many hours later.

[@whenandwhy8380]

@@urieluy2025 Thank you very much Uriel, but it is really difficult for me cause i do not have teacher 😟

[@whenandwhy8380]

@@merrybits Thank you Merrybits. I do not know how to improve my intonation. How can I know that every note is in tune? Using a tuner?? I do not have teacher and i do not even know if i hold the violin in the correct way.

[@memohomoud5065]

Hi joy Thank you very much for your beautiful insightful videos, i am just starting learning violin in a class with an instructor but i also follow you and have started watching your early videos. They are sooo helpful and really giving me a-lot of information of how to deal with early steps . Thank you again

[@JoyLeeViolin]

So glad to hear that Memo. Happy music making!

[@jalajasankar6369]

Good video. Thank you so much

[@Shrinksjp]

I started learning the violin late as an adult. My teacher just described everything you just said, but no other video has said that. I am struggling with vibrato and I am on at the middle to end of Suzuki book 6. I am able to do great trills and can shift well, however.

[@JoyLeeViolin]

Hi Shrin, vibrato is a technique which needs particularly longer period of time to master properly. Please make sure to keep the guidance from your teacher ( or someone who is professional violinist) during the vibrato study, this way each step of the vibrato study is well managed and controlled. As once we get a wrong type of vibrato, it is very hard to unlearn and relearn it. Here are some videos which might give you an idea. Happy practising Shrin! kzbin.info/www/bejne/fGesc2qbismJf6s kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y5ico6mwq5h_p5Y kzbin.info/www/bejne/qX3QdmeKeZekpqM kzbin.info/www/bejne/il7Fg5yBbKaLaqs

[@Shrinksjp]

Thank you.....i will take a look at these videos.@@JoyLeeViolin

[@silvag.r.4955]

When Should One Start Learning Vibrato?🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂

[@laurencelance586]

Thank you so much for this video. It was the very question on my mind. I'm relearning the instrument after being away for many years. So I have a basic mechanical question. I have a long neck and so I"m finding difficulty in find a way to support the violin without hands. Standard shoulder rests don't seen to be enough. I did find an elevated chin rest, but I'm still struggling to hold the instrument without hand support. Your thoughts, please? Thank you

[@JoyLeeViolin]

Hi Laurence, the left hand can hold "shortly" the violin, but in general it would be better if the left hand stays free so that it can shift and vibrate. Please keep in mind that having a bit of room between your chin and shoulder is necessary in order to adjust the angle of the violin during playing. Happy violin playing!

[@jackloganbill605]

My left hand vibrato movement is okay, my problem is my right hand bowing speeds up to match my left hand vibrations frequency.. do you have tips or exercises to establish right-left hand independence?????

[@JoyLeeViolin]

Dear Jack, try to vibrate first only one oscillation per bow, then later two oscillations of vibrato per bow. Also while vibrating two ( or more later) oscillations in one bow, stop after each oscillation and continue go the next oscillation with the same bow direction. This way you can control multiple independent actions. I hope you can try it. Happy practising!

[@roychan588]

I have been playing for 10 months and I can play abit of vibrato. Do you have way to practice vibrato to ease into it

[@urieluy2025]

Hi there! This is a video Joy made on Vibrato. It's one of the best ones on KZbin. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hX3TdY2GdquSfpY

[@pienkunicorn]

She has an entire 10 video series about how to learn vibrato on her Patreon page.

[@MikeS7]

do all these tips apply if you're not using a shoulder rest? It seems like it's much harder to hold the violin only using your chin

[@JoyLeeViolin]

I personally prefer if my students use a shoulder rest. Because it's not only easier to vibrate, but also helps us to avoid a tension in the shoulder. But it is also true that I have students who mastered it while playing without a shoulder rest. Happy trying Mike!

[@MikeS7]

@@JoyLeeViolin thank you, that's good advice! I started using a pad and it helps with holding the violin. Sadly I don't think I'll be able to get a shoulder rest soon. But please don't be concerned I deliberately try to keep my left shoulder down and relaxed