College Campuses Can Be Minefields For Comedians (HBO)

[@johnnyskeletman8147]

You know it's time to stop when even the Vice reporter is considering calling you a snowflake.

[@gqptyu]

Can they say the N-word though?

[@TheAArmstrong]

@@gqptyu can you??

[@gqptyu]

@@TheAArmstrong I am not the one complaining about freedom of speech though.

[@texashippiecowboy8412]

Any white person can say the n word tho. We created it.

[@gqptyu]

@@texashippiecowboy8412 Can you? How long do you think these oh so brave comedians' career will last if they used that word during a stand up? There are lines that people don't cross, whether they admit it not.

[@pissboy8006]

haha Chris Fleming made a good point "You're not even listening to me, your just laughing because you heard bisexual!"

[@valeriaco6017]

basically

[@plinyelder8156]

Crystallized this kind of “comedy” in one phrase

[@dickkickem5323]

vice hiring a journalist capable of grilling both sides of the argument? whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat good on ya

[@toobnoobify]

That's what I was thinking, wtf is this? I am shocked... typically the Vice reporter would be high-fiving the students for pushing censorship or ideas.

[@HorrorMetalDnD]

This guy used to work for Reason Magazine and Reason TV.

[@TheGodfather441]

Jared Wales so that's why he sounds familiar

[@jebus9001]

He's great. Check him out on the Fifth Column podcast. Michael Moynihan.

[@TheDude4077]

I'd hardly call his interview with Judy Gold "grilling", dude has a clear bias

[@toatsmagoats72]

"it's what the students want" wrong, it's what the loudest students want.

[@thenewtalkerguy496]

No it's what they've told the students that they want. We are talking about impressionable teens/early 20s here. They just go along with what the adults tell them and what others say is "cool".

[@toatsmagoats72]

@@thenewtalkerguy496 it's both. there is obviously indoctrination on campuses and I've experienced and continue to experience it first hand. btw it's less about being cool and more about trying to not be uncool. no one gives you much credit for agreeing with them but they will tear you to shreds for disagreeing. most students just go with the flow so just so they can fit in and make friends.

[@NA-vj8yr]

@@toatsmagoats72 That's what I understand the least here. When I was that age it was cool to dissent and a badge of honor to be "torn to shreds" as you say.

[@toatsmagoats72]

@@NA-vj8yr and that's still the case. they are dissenting from mainstream culture and if you're not dissenting in the same way they are, you get torn to shreds.

[@Dragoneer]

It’s what the bitchy whiny ones want. The normal people like us suffer silently because most of us are fucking modest

[@orangeapple681]

Holy Shit. These people actually found a job being the joke police.

[@luke-te3sr]

Leaving people with no sense of humor in charge of comedy on campus lol that's funny in a sad way

[@nmpete3365]

1984

[@thomasscott7756]

@V. V they are their own religion

[@AcidicJO]

All the brilliant comedy they’re missing out on cause they don’t want to hurt anyone’s feelings. But seriously with the prices of college these days I would be more pissed off that they didn’t bring in the high dollar comics if I was a student.

[@tae912]

@@nmpete3365 hahaha good one 😉

[@Chandral]

"I think it's the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately." - George Carlin

[@santaanna700]

Wise words from a wise man.

[@thomasrainbow]

He was a genius.

[@blazegarcia5607]

It's nice to see left-leaning VICE finally be critical of the oppressive left.

[@morimoko]

@Jon dow they might but I doubt the army would.

[@ThePhlubber]

@Jon dow If only we'd implement mandatory service for all U.S. Citizens. You'd get less disconnected hipsters and politicians who might appreciate what people sacrifice to keep a Nation afloat.

[@sativaqueen4208]

I'm a transgender woman and this kind of shit is why I can't deal with a lot of the mainstream trans community, and have severely reduced the amount of time I spend in trans-centric spaces. Everyone is way too sensitive about everything and will treat microaggressions as grave unforgivable offenses. Also, as a trans person of faith, other transgender people often find a way to get offended by the fact that I am religious (even though proselytizing is a big no-no in my religion), and they will occasionally give me shit for it.

[@yodaguy6956]

Sativa Queen 420 I'd be interested in hearing how other members of your religion have treated you if you feel like sharing, and also am curious what religion that is.

[@markymark6412]

Your a man not a women

[@yodaguy6956]

Marky Mark dude posting spiteful comments for the sole purpose of being spiteful serves no literally no purpose but to cause other people pain, fuckin pathetic and lame, go find a better use of your time than spreading hate on KZbin because you have nothing better to do

[@prkrmc6457]

@@markymark6412 She did say “I’m a transgender woman.” She didn’t claim to be a “woman.” Those are two different categories of people. Let her be who she is meant to be, and try to find some compassion within yourself when dealing with others.

[@JmO-ee1bi]

Jesus Christ what a nightmare

[@Chris-vw3zf]

So in other words.. Bill Burr cant perform there

[@godlikejr.3683]

Not just Billy Boy, but Chris Rock, and a plethora of other comdeic characters/icons

[@defencebangladesh4068]

@BDom true 😂

[@tomr.1125]

or any other funny person

[@yasseressa1696]

so in other words.. comedians can't preform there

[@Baconator1368]

Bill Burr is boring anyway. I wouldn't want to go to one of his shows and I'm sure a lot of people would agree with me on that.

[@zEropoint68]

we as a society are _really_ pushing the bubble of childhood out _way_ too far, now. by the time people are college age, they really shouldn't be getting sheltered like this anymore. we're doing young people a disservice by keeping them so infantile for so long into adulthood.

[@Irishtradchannel]

It is a great disservice and will cause them a lot more pain and regret in life.

[@celinak5062]

They grew up with the internet, they're not sheltered. They're not paying for rude boys tho

[@blartsampsin8633]

@@celinak5062 theyre still sheltered though not entirely

[@Go4Noctis]

Kids today have more access to information than ever before and you assume that it is just "They don't know what's good for them"? We don't have many dirty limericks or aristocrat jokes today either it must be because the boomers were too infantile. I have followed comedy my entire life and I think this comes down to comedians aging out of a group. If you are in your pushing 50+ and established there is a good chance you have no fucking clue what it's like to be an 18-22 yo college kid.

[@hadolfitler3316]

@@Go4Noctis it's not a generation gap issue, the world has always been a mean place to live in and it will walk all over you if you let it. The access to information doesnt make this(my) generation smarter, and learning to cope with reality isn't an obsolete concept.

[@f0rumrr]

"The world does not have to adjust to you, so figure that out." I love it.

[@shithappenedwhatnow3028]

"The world has to adjust to us, to be fair."- anyone else smell oppression, bullying and social "self denial"?

[@Simple_Jackass]

@@shithappenedwhatnow3028 - I do! I do!

[@msabigailflurm1163]

f0rumrr yes. It’s true that she said that and that was a good point. It’s too bad the rest of her routine is a bunch of “orange man bad” unfunny cringe. I don’t even like Trump, but that’s some low hanging fruit

[@zeitgeistzealots]

"The world doesn't owe you anything, it was here first." - Mark Twain

[@TheSongwritingCat]

The most entitled point of view is thinking you should get paid to say whatever you want even if people don't find it funny. And all her jokes were bad regardless of who she was trying to offend.

[@shannonoconnor1264]

what happenned to college kids wanting controversial things

[@deadlyrng]

College kids want it; liberal art's school baby's don't.

[@salvadorprado3175]

The Christian Right won. They started it and now the kids are like them.

[@Kidsinamerica]

You're an idiot - the "Christian Right" isn't weaponizing their sensitivity, they never stopped Howard Stern become a superstar. Today, a "Christian Right" person would need a police escort to visit a college campus.

[@ndelliott138]

@@Kidsinamerica Well Bill Donahue from the Catholic League did a pretty good job of firing Opie & Anthony in the early 2000's when they had more listeners than Stern. The evangelicals did a damn good job at preventing same sex marriage in the mid 2000's as well as one of it's fringe groups shouting "god hates fags" at soldiers funerals. The Christians also did a damn good job eliminating evolution from southern and Midwestern PUBLIC SCHOOL curriculum's. I could go on, but needless to say, the left is exploiting the same bullshit the Christians have since the 70's. There is no difference between "god hates fags" and "jokes arent funny".

[@ndelliott138]

@Bruce Wayne I understand what you are saying, but despite the rise of radical left college kids Trump is president, abortion is nearly impossible in large swaths of the country and even after the the secular victory in Dover, PA evolution is taboo in many school systems and politicians are scared to death of confronting climate change. Long story short, children in college do not run the system, they can have huge impacts on the entertainment industry and advertising agencies since they are the group with the disposable income that attracts those entities. Yet beyond protesting and tweeting, they tend not to vote or care about a single topic longer than it trends. Plus the best thing about college students is that they get older, a lot of millennial's (me included) are in their mid 30's with some approaching 40. It's easy to be a self righteous radical when you are a young liberal arts student, but eventually they will grow up and either move towards the center and become gainfully employed or a creepy old person who is always broke and no one takes seriously. However, the right has remained cohesive and just crazy enough to get what they want done but not crazy enough to show their true colors. That's why they are so dangerous.

[@t.veritas884]

That little trio of tumblr cringe-inducers are literally the most annoying types of people. They are no fun to speak with, and I avoid them at all costs

[@briancomley8210]

Yet they control who gets to perform at these places, l just couldn't stand watching after a few mins.

[@michaelgonzalez216]

@@briancomley8210 no shit, right?

[@xcx000]

They even LOOK like sjw tumblr people ksksks 🗿

[@alphamale068]

Great job!! 'speak with' rather than 'speak to' - I can just never bring myself to say 'speak to' somebody, and I almost never see or hear anybody else using 'speak with' - much nicer English in my opinion. Thanks :-)

[@chrismedina54]

They abide by the party line. These types would shoot you for disagreeing if they could.

[@yatesy117]

You must be joking. Make a "offensive" joke these days and risk getting sued. Even Jerry Seinfeld who's probably the most vanilla mainstream comedian out there doesn't want to perform on campuses anymore.

[@Harry-uq9qd]

Yatesy pretty sure he could easily do a set there while abiding by their ridiculous rules, but they don't pay well...

[@yatesy117]

bongo155 It used to be a good guage to test out new material now he admits these millennials can't take jokes

[@ANIMOUS8]

bongo155 lol love how you needlessly make it about race. Did you you learn that at one of these campuses? Just pull the race card whenever you want to try and shut down any viewpoint you don't agree with. Chris Rock also refuses to play at colleges, still about race? That interview with the bookers was a prefect example of intolerance of other views. He's doing his job, passing devil's advocate and asking questions but they are talking over him as he tries to ask questions. Like how dare he even question their policies?!

[@bruhbruh2318]

bongo155 nah they're just a bunch of pussies

[@KaitainCPS]

I can't tell whether or not your comments are meta-level performance art. If so, bravo.

[@kiranknair1140]

Just to clarify . What she means by diversity is diversity of race and not diversity in opinion right?

[@owenemo52]

She means diversity in gender identity because no race has been invented since she started working at Lesley University

[@fangfuckthegreat6876]

she means i am gonna scapegoat the journalist as close minded while refusing to answer any questions and say diversity as a crutch

[@konami1979]

It's hard to say - most of that college audience resemble siblings or cousins who apparently shop at the same store.

[@f0rumrr]

I honestly dont think she knows what she means, just putting words together that sound clever.

[@jordanthomas4379]

Kiran KNair correct

[@philosophymonkeys1747]

"18 to 21 year olds now are more diverse than they have ever been." *looks at the crowd of people* Ma'am, the opposite of what you just said is true.

[@defencebangladesh4068]

Diverse with different colors of hair blue green pink

[@RocStarr913]

But they are diverse in terms of identity. People aren’t just going to sit still and take other people’s crap anymore like they used to.

[@789french5]

@@RocStarr913 Outrage has been democratized, it's a shitty construct built by the media to create conflict to sell advertisements. I.E "The War on Christmas" If you can't laugh at the quirks and funny-cuz-true things that are delivered as JOKES by a COMEDIAN whose job it is to push around a society's comfort zone. I'm French-American and I get roasted all the time and its funny! It CAN be unfunny but thats from drunk jackasses across a bar. Unless you're "tribe" has been subject to centuries of brutal oppression, slavery, others have tried to ethnically cleanse you etc. The people whining are NOT those people! The N word carries massive historical baggage, joking about Italians or Mexicans are always from a kernal of truth: the comedian is always on your side but the delivery is too 'harsh' so people loose their minds and say their offended. You're right, everyone has access to a platform where they can complain now. Even a great joke will offend 1 person, and then EVERYONE has to play along and make a safe space etc. to accommodate them. Clearly, comedians are taking massive heat for the smallest culture war BS whilst we should all be focused on wages/labor conditions and climate change. Go to any other culture, it's an American thing..

[@jimmybonez8928]

@@RocStarr913 I understand why they would want safe spaces, but it doesn’t mean that they’re right. It just gives a reason for censorship, Whether they’re offended gives them no right to censor artists doing what they do.

[@gregoryoakman8639]

This is horrific. The three bookers made my skin crawl. Look at the righteousness in their eyes, so sure they know whats best. Teach your children to identify people like this and protect themselves.

[@mdkvisions]

The bookers are going to help the Future suicide statistics go up... the next generation are going to fall apart the first time someone in the reaL world tells them "they don't give a Fuxk how they feel get it together"

[@YourselfAndEye]

So it's basically like booking comedians for a kindergarten class. Gotcha.

[@gotacallfromvishal]

some people like unleashed raw comedy, some people like family friendly comedy. times change kid.

[@gotacallfromvishal]

@B VV i never said any of the comedians in this segment was this or that?

[@jamestrotter927]

@@gotacallfromvishal it’s a college campus. That where girls go for their first gangbang. It’s not a family friendly place. I’m sure they’re all pro choice and that’s not very family friendly either.

[@gotacallfromvishal]

@@jamestrotter927 yup but comedy nights are put on by students unions and students unions are run by nerds that are all about inclusion and safe space and pamplets with smilng multi-racial families

[@thunder01xb]

Limiting what you can say is not comedy. What you can say and not say is not comedy. Sensitive little fucks are ruining comedy I miss dead baby jokes 😂 “diverse”

[@johnnyrico7104]

So basically, they look for a comedian, then read through the comedian's set, scour the Internet for any clip of the comedian making a problematic joke, then stand off stage, ready to cut the mic at any moment. Sounds like a great place for a comedian!

[@Epimpin101]

It sounds like North Korea.

[@eps3154]

Oh no save the comedians! Someone call Amnesty International.

[@Epimpin101]

And then all of a sudden it becomes "Oh no save the journalists! Someone call Amnesty International."

[@elliemm557]

They don't deserve entertainment in this way. Their entertainment is themselves, whining about everything. Misery loves company. They call people like that "toxic". They better break out of it while their young, or they'll be on antidepressants, if they're not on them already.

[@gregchung9244]

Why is this so disliked, vice actually took a neutral stance on this. Actually if you look at other videos on PC culture, like evergreen and princeton, Vice was actually rather critical of the students

[@More_Row]

Greg Chung Rather when in all honesty they keep tip toeing around issues all the time when it comes to pointing out stuff on the left. Not afraid to call people Nazis in a jiffy though.

[@TCt83067695]

dislike is for the views of the subjects interviewed not necessarily the way the subject was covered

[@twobitsnick]

Honestly those bookers were so annoying that my finger twitched and smashed the dislike button

[@rustcohle3803]

Cuz they value well meaning and thoughtful arguments, not just "we do it cuz white people already have too much priveleges". Vice knows what their values are, and I respect that.

[@redrobotmonkey]

I dont think people are disliking because of vice, just the douches in the video representing the bookers for comedy at colleges. Vice is great.

[@willthe5135]

“18-21 year olds now are more diverse than they’ve ever been” - Aha they’ve always been diverse you just haven’t let them into your college before

[@pits.893]

The funny thing is though that diversity in gender and race had been followed by extreme lack of diversity in opinions...

[@keirab8110]

The biggest joke I saw in this video was calling Amy Schumer a comedian

[@hottpan]

Lol this is too underrated

[@aking3624]

😃😀😅

[@defencebangladesh4068]

that was a good joke

[@streetteamdjony2000]

😂🤣😂🤣 Hahaha you hit the nail on the head!!!!

[@lukeives7396]

She is just there stealing jokes.

[@MicMan123456789]

Lady: The diverse voices are telling me one thing Interviewer: that makes no sense. Then the voices aren't diverse Lady: well they're different colors... That's what I meant

[@themightyflog]

I didn't see different colors in the audience...they were all pretty much fat, short haired white girls with trendy glasses and/or piercings. That is what I cal diversity.

[@barryoffeastenders]

Sums this whole farce up really.

[@kevinc9065]

Mental gymnastics are fun for all.

[@defencebangladesh4068]

@@themightyflog perfect 👌

[@buzzkill808raven2]

The voices can be diverse and the message be unified....I mean, if you took a world wide poll, I think most everyone would say they don't like tornados, for example

[@zazmatyk]

I'm a left-leaning liberal arts student, and I think this is ridiculous. The world is not always safe or kind or correct...get used to it. And how are we supposed to think critically and develop well-rounded perspectives without diversity of THOUGHT?

[@TheChugg11]

I think they're working on banning critical thought.

[@hannahmichel8328]

No one wants to be challenged but “accepted”no matter how forceful.

[@johnappleseed8146]

Of course you think it’s ridiculous. Most liberals are not SJWS newsflash

[@margaretwilson8736]

We're simplifying for the most triggered demonination.

[@johnappleseed8146]

Sverion Ruzz Jesus Christ dude. Some ppl generally have other interest then computer tech or engineering. U guys are big mad we can get a job as a Human Resources manager or PR director make and make a triple digit salary without taking super hard college classes. Yes believe it or not, there are triple digit salary jobs doing things other than engineering or law. Perhaps u should stop generalizing degrees, yes ppl some ppl with a liberal arts degree *choose* to work lower paying jobs like history teacher etc, whatever their passion is but most of us are genuinely just not caught up in the you have to work in engineering or tech hype. Do what makes you happy and pays the bills if you can do that, then u can stfu and stop hating on other ppl choosing to do what they want

[@markydan1232]

“They do comedy for claps, not for laughter.” - Andrew Schulz

[@AdamKiser]

How do these people plan to be equipped for life outside of campus if they can't even take a joke about anything?! The faculty is actually doing the students a disservice by shielding them from everything remotely controversial. What happens when they graduate? They going to want trigger warning from every person they encounter? It's like dumping babies out of the cradle and into the street. I don't remember my college experience being like this, but that was almost a decade ago. Maybe things have changed.

[@icareg]

what happens? welp lets find out

[@geraldtisch1007]

The dude from Emerson explains it perfectly that all they care about is money.

[@timjohnson6100]

What will happen is these cry babies will run to human resources, claim they are being harassed, file a lawsuit, brand you as a racist, rapist, misogynist, or homophobe, and you will be fired or forced to resign. Don't believe me? ask Bret Weinstein.

[@MrJaaaaake]

That's why we have all these laws in Canada where you get fined for not being a polite little surf.

[@ThorsMjollnir0341]

Adam Kiser they don’t plan on it. They plan on fighting everything along the way until they get what they want. Despite what you may think, they are transforming life outside of campus, particular work/corporate life.

[@jordanthomas4379]

Ladies and gentleman, I HAVE FOUND THEM, The least funny people on planet earth.

[@wstbrks99]

I did see amy schumer...that makes 4

[@worldisfilledb]

The least funny people are the Germans hahahaha I love south park

[@jairoherrera4040]

"Them" refers to non binary people, and the "ladies and gentlemen" can single them out, so SJW can be offended by that.

[@lockandloadlikehell]

Look at the murder of nerds jn that audience

[@TheRevoution19]

Judy Gold was not that bad. Come on..

[@NotTheLarryDavid]

Don't mind her, Amy Schumer's just there to steal some jokes from Judy.

[@jayray1714]

And Judy stole the LGBTQ+ joke from someone else. I've heard that joke a 1000 times.

[@VattenFlaskaCola123]

That is a fucking lie, Amy Schumer doesn't write jokes.

[@stratus10601]

Larry David badum tsss

[@NotTheLarryDavid]

stratus1060 thank you, I'll be here all day.

[@kakapupumedia9052]

agh agh fatwa ! fatwa!

[@twiddledeeable]

I'm a journalist and I come back to this video often because the reporter in it does an awesome job. He holds both sides accountable and asks thought provoking questions to both.

[@jamesdragonforce]

Too bad the comments suck though.

[@EyeSeeBots]

I see a bunch of people that are going to be useless in the real world.

[@ManInTheBigHat]

Except as rule enforcing bureaucrats.

[@4FYTfa8EjYHNXjChe8xs7xmC5pNEtz]

They're useless now

[@binshuo]

they went to a liberal arts college, so...

[@KevinBullard]

going to be?

[@K.b.173-dog]

@@ManInTheBigHat excellent point. That’s exactly what they’re being trained for.

[@X12-g4j]

Jesus Christ...colleges have turned into playschools

[@americancitizen748]

Your reference to J.C. has resulted in 15 students requiring a safe space.

[@thesoccertrotter1]

Yep adult daycare

[@NewhamMatt]

@@americancitizen748 Don't worry - those are only Christian students. Nobody cares about offending those.

[@Ryfinius]

very few and they get attention, the one I go to has no trace of this insanity

[@lit721]

X12 this isn’t anything new. higher education has become more and more PC as decades go by.

[@Rexda1e]

"If you can't adapt, get out!". Very diverse and tolerant.

[@APisceanSlant]

I know, right? One could literally say the exact same thing to her (or, them) regarding their mindset. Even when she's smugly dismissing the notion that processing trauma through comedy, can be an ideal situation? I'm Irish--I'd hate for her to be at any of the funerals/wakes I've attended.

[@user-ii8dz4vu7n]

It's kind of a dual sided thing. The university is saying if you can't agree with what we want, get out of our circuit. The comedians are saying, if you don't agree or feel uncomfortable with what we say, walk out. One is prevention and the other is intervention. The biggest problem that I see is that we have gate keepers for the University circuit rather than simply posting the subjects that will be talked about, and let the seats speak for themselves.

[@themeg1145]

It does sound like something a racist/sexist/transphobic/homophobic/etc twat would say.

[@johndavis3894]

Lu Austin I've adapted to avoiding "liberal" college kids. You are correct though. When Trump wins his second term just remember that society did adapt to these idiots and opted for a strong voice opposite of theirs. My how the economy will grow!

[@meowpacino21692]

That crowd is horrifying

[@fredfinks]

The goddamn nose rings. Its a big sign - *AVOID*

[@k_a_y_l_e_e]

i initially read this as "why college campuses can be minefields for some _CANADIANS_ " so half way through the video i'm like, "where does the 'canadian' part come into play?" and then i reread the video headline and suddenly it all made sense: i'm an idiot that can't read.

[@smmm5559]

um women

[@JohnDoe-qn3od]

Hahah I do that kind of thing all the time it really makes the second watch a different video

[@Ho11is2Ho11ywood]

lmfaooooo

[@jamesharbinson4051]

I feel so triggered. Oh wait, that's frostbite.

[@NoMoreBsPlease]

Damn, now I want to see that...

[@patrickgilroy1820]

A school's job is to prepare you for life, not shield you from it. Overcoming our "fears" is the only way we truly survive.

[@worldisfilledb]

Patrick Gilroy maybe in a war, get outta here with that bumper sticker crap haha

[@worldisfilledb]

soberpunk that’s not what I’m responding to

[@nedflanders8447]

@@worldisfilledb College won't prepare you for war.. well maybe OCS will. Coddling should stop wayyyy before college. I know 10 year olds that act more adult than most of these students and faculty. Patrick Gilroy's "bumper sticker crap" is very true. If we keep shielding these kids from reality until they have no choice but to face it, They will be ill prepared for it , and unable to cope. I think it has already been proven evident in today's society.

[@JEFFJUNIO25]

Amen to that

[@davsie87]

everything about these three offends me deeply...

[@butterknife1000]

i wonder what you are - can i guess lol

[@Kasphs95]

no you

[@cmallory7511]

Where in the safe space did they touch you?

[@middlefingermotionpictures4772]

The booker in the middle will make a great dictator some day.

[@albertfishisarealjerk2022]

Who, Kim-John-yuck. Ha

[@Macacos]

What about the one on the left, she doesn't even part her teeth to talk, such is the contempt.

[@SomboonCM]

He look SCREAMS authoritarian dictator. She looks to North Korea for inspiration.

[@mdkvisions]

Lol

[@studyeye]

Yeah, those three comedy bookers look like a real laugh riot

[@casey98]

The girl with the curly hair has her period 24/7

[@AliensAnonymous]

These 3 Stooges are the gatekeepers for comedy? -- Now that's funny.

[@jimbertido2800]

Don't insult the stooges. The stooges were funny.

[@stratus10601]

"Liberal arts" Lmao

[@matcotech]

stratus10601 Not to be confused with "conservative arts" right?

[@stratus10601]

matcotech yup lol

[@chaz32]

"Liberal" in this context refers to the wide array of humanities subjects that can be studied under the umbrella. Please don't devalue someone's degree without understanding it first.

[@AcheronLupus1]

It's a joke...

[@stratus10601]

chaz32 should we get you a stand up comedian like in this video? Lmao

[@franktherabbit47]

The Vice journalist was really smart and cool in this episode.

[@luiesmaes5333]

Nice burner account

[@Titaniumbunny24]

This happned to me on my campus when I was doing Stand up and I was told I couldn't make a joke about Mike pence. Even though I was making fun of him, I was told it was hurtful and insensitive to bring it up. Comedy is not an attack, comedy helps us explore those hard to talk about issues, laughter is a good medicine for trauma.

[@RawShogun]

What was the joke

[@Titaniumbunny24]

jon devieon it was a joke about him being president of trump is ever impeached. It was a pun.

[@Titaniumbunny24]

CcReap3r that was the problem. I said how pence thinks you can shock people straight, and even though I was making fun of him I was told it was too offensive

[@Titaniumbunny24]

bongo155 but feelings shouldn't matter more than speaking truth to power. If we can't use our words and our art to commentate on the times or critique our leaders than what's the point of free speech? I'm not saying don't listen to marginalized voices when they point out real harm, just saying that it can't be this cut and dry. There needs to be nuance when we talk about painful subjects in comedy.

[@artificialavocado9652]

Dana K what was the joke?! Can't leave us hanging now spill it!

[@MansterBear]

"an extension of the entire campus climate that we're trying to create" That's some sinister stuff right there. So it's your job to create a single climate for the entire campus? I'm gonna take a while guess and say that you happen to be supportive of whatever views this "climate" tolerates, as well. She also thinks people can be 'harmed by jokes' I wonder how many anti-trump, or anti-christian, or anti-"anything right of Bernie" jokes she "protects" students from.

[@davidtaylor8406]

I'm glad someone else caught that.

[@ileolai]

There's a lot of people in these comments who are bitter about never qualifying for college

[@davidtaylor8406]

Most colleges don't require qualifications any more. The SAT and GPA's were deemed racist. No, that wasn't a joke.

[@Hooga89]

Don't be fooled. This kind of "climate" isn't a climate they want to keep at college campuses. They want to extend it to the entirety of the country, and they are trying their hardest.

[@ileolai]

+Hooga cry more

[@SuperMusicmantra]

“If you can’t adapt, get out.” Practice what you preach.

[@maffmi]

Wasn't that basically what the nazis said back then in germany? Except for get out, it was get killed..

[@doubleT84]

maxia that was "to each his own"

[@ryanrscp1]

"they are conduits for our voice" how about you take a poll of the student body instead of superficially mandating that you speak for everyone. signed: -A college Student

[@Kakerate2]

ty

[@noeleen5250]

Oh dear God...... Get a sense of humour

[@PantsB4Squares]

Nollaig these people have their own rules. Wouldn't want to say anything at all that will offend someone. Dear lord !

[@sebaseba6710]

I'm so triggered because I don't have one get ready to be sued

[@thedave7760]

Yeah like as she said "if you cant adapt then get out", very welcoming of diverse ideas aren't they.

[@ernestocastro6778]

You’re tearing me apart Lisa!

[@NotTheLarryDavid]

I agree with the sentiment on the comments, but let's be fair and not dislike this video. VICE is simply exposing these snowflakes, not supporting them.

[@DickCheneyXX]

They are often supporting them and hardly calls them out.

[@Bankable2790]

Agree with all above. Vice is typically bullshit but in this they are not, just exposing others. It’s important to understand there are rifts in media companies, some content is good and sometimes bad, even on similar subjects. You could even find this for companies like Nat Geo.

[@michaelpowell7120]

First time I agreed with you

[@Maikelswe1985]

No they are supporting them hence the downvotes more are coming

[@tigrus879archives4]

Agreed, though I wouldn't say "radical left". That implies strict adherence to Marxist-Leninism or other forms of Communism. You're talking about Progressives who get easily triggered over humor. They're left-wing, not far-left. Not all snowflakes are proletarians. You should distinguish between the two.

[@ropyspoop8508]

20 years from now, "Remember jokes? Ah those were the good ol days."

[@om3g4z3r0]

remember [user arrested for refering to potential microaggression]

[@Kasphs95]

That is soooooo offensive.. so like.. take that down.

[@danieltownley7133]

"When someone says to a comic, 'hear is the line you do not cross', not only should you cross it you should gleefully bolt for it". Mark Thomas said that when he was banned from a club for princess Diana jokes.

[@youngjayvin]

That rule applies in regards to punching up. Not punching down.

[@calisongbird]

*here

[@user-el5mh3pc5i]

Not sure if the 20 year old librarian knows what the word "Diversity" means....

[@MrBaskins2010]

B she meant to say sheltered. Boston lacks diversity. Look back at that crowd. Everybody look the fuckin same

[@krispyjc]

Why is that a bad thing Baskins? Are you racist?

[@MrBaskins2010]

yeah I'm a racist; TAY K taught me everything I know about race. I specialize in running from the initial argument

[@princediop8190]

What she means by diverse group of people are a bunch of white female homosexuals.

[@RocStarr913]

Diversity does apply to race and to sexual identity.

[@BarbaraPappaAirsoft]

7:36 Well some day she will finish school and have to face the real world... If your school is shielding you from reality instead of preparing you for it then it's a bad school.

[@ThorsMjollnir0341]

This is not a good way to look at it because it ignores the fact that these kids are bringing this culture to the “real world.” I work in the legal field and many corporations will not hire a law firm unless they have a certain level of diversity, racial and/or gender. Thats just one minor example. You have to fight back with ideas and can’t just dismiss it as though these people will somehow wake up when they get into the “real world.”

[@DogratDavis]

Saw this was a VICE video and immediately assumed they'd be advocating for the snowflakes as I've seen them do in the past but I'm glad to see that wasn't the case here lol. Had to leave a like. Sucks that a bunch of college students came and smashed that dislike button for them Lmao.

[@davidjackowski4336]

wowalinbie Thats how things should be reported. Neutrally.

[@dickkickem5323]

wowalinbie - you are part of the problem with modern journalism.

[@Laurence2000]

wowalinbie [Insert actual evidence here]

[@Jay-oy5zs]

Honestly, most of the reporters at Vice probably agree with the snowflakes, not to even mention the CEO. One neutral video doesn't make me trust them.

[@cinemar]

Same here. I wonder how this news piece actually got made by VICE. VICE and vox are usually all about snowflake news.

[@Adam-ui3yn]

LOL the job for those 3 is essentially to filter the outside world for anything potentially triggering. These students are reaching sensitivity levels I didn't even think were possible.

[@Rockovissi]

Those students are still just older children.

[@brandonjamesclarke]

Who's gonna protect these students from harmful jokes once they leave campus?

[@pierrotlavoie]

Nobody

[@KaitainCPS]

I'm assuming Jessica Valenti will develop superpowers.

[@nickgoesvestmode]

Good questions but that's not the school's problem. They are managing the campus environment that they are responsible for with complete disregard of how it will affect them AFTER their education.

[@petesandwich3246]

They end up voting and legislating trigger warnings.

[@Kasphs95]

Whiteknight here and the futures dna pool. Dont you guys feel obsolete yet?

[@bfp08]

That’s the saddest shit ever

[@Joe-og6br]

Michael West I am in the UK, I am guessing its like this now in university's over here.

[@thefareplayer2254]

Exactly. It’s just like taking the fun out of all of it.

[@defencebangladesh4068]

"More Diverse" Yep with blue colored hairs, trendy glasses, pierced bratty white students. So Diversed. 😂

[@konami1979]

They look like sisters or cousins who apparently shop at the same boutique.

[@hayaglamazonluxe]

I liked that Michael pushed the female booker with the glasses on the right a bit hard. Vice keep this guy, his segments are always good.

[@More_Row]

Haya Glamazon Agreed.

[@hayaglamazonluxe]

Thanks for your comment. I just think that Michael knows how to call people out on their BS. Like when he said diverse but everyone has the same experience. I think jokes are fine, even if it is a sexual assault joke. It's not a big deal.

[@carcillian]

Absolutely. She had these thoughts in her head or blog I guess, but when pushed by the reporter she just folded. I don't think she has enough faith in her argument if her response is to just get pissy or shut down. Look at her eyes, she's stabbing at the reporter for even questioning her. That's the product of sheltered teaching sheltered.

[@promontorium]

The guy owned them on the "diverse" claim. Can't be diverse if there's only 1 voice allowed.

[@hayaglamazonluxe]

promontorium They failed to reply and he was totally correct.

[@thedrummerdude2431]

We need another George Carlin/Lenny Bruce to push the boundaries of free speech again

[@sloppynyuszi]

The Drummer Dude Jim Jefferson’s was that for a while. But he already did his god and gun bits. Now he is just another foreigner telling Americans what’s wrong with them

[@tomio8072]

Contrapoints is pretty cool? :)

[@cormano64]

@@tomio8072 I think so,. yeah.

[@5jerry1]

@@sloppynyuszi ~ It's Jim Jefferies, not Jefferson.

[@DrRosko]

They are trying to prevent the growth of such comedians.

[@krubbis]

No comment on the content, but the cut at 6:38 is brilliant. Nice work, editor.

[@ilaser4064]

Yep, could be twins right.

[@MRTN13]

Watching the video I suddenly understand the resentment against American 'SJW' and lefty liberals. They're just another version of a religious moral police force like they have in Iran

[@jebstewart666]

or the religious moral police force like we have here in america.

[@Laurence2000]

Since two forces are equal in our respective countries, you’d go to Iran if someone paid for the expenses plus five extra dollars, then, right?

[@Laurence2000]

bongo155 Why is that even a question? Of course not-that’s not how people who pretend to be the paragons of free expression but are actually self-serving, hypocritical, virtue-signaling grifters, operate.

[@jebstewart666]

hmmm...after reading this: annaeverywhere.com/travel-to-iran/ i might have to take you up on your offer! but i'd have to have enough spending money to buy a rug....oh how i want a persian rug! such craftsman ship!

[@wordforger]

Having dealt with them online and seen some of their philosophical ideas bandied about, I can say that they can sometimes end up being just as toxic, racist, and sexist as the bigots they purport to oppose. In my experience, casual -isms usually occur out of pure ignorance. If you approach a person who said the thing with empathy as another human being, then explain why the thing they said was wrong, the vast majority of empathetic humans would learn something new and change their behavior. Unfortunately, the SJW often starts with an insult, tells the other person to shut up because they're not a member of [protected non-privileged group] and therefore don't understand--but no, I don't have to explain it to you. Basically, they shut down conversations that need to happen for any progress to be made, are just as locked up in identity as the bigots, and do little of the work that needs to be done to advance their causes. This does not, of course, excuse the racists, sexists, and bigots. I just think that we need to be able to have these conversations with each other, stop retreating to our bubbles and reach out to one another as humans. This "other"ing is dangerous for our society because while we agree on at least 70% of our values, we're letting that 30% divide us so much that our government has ceased to function as it should. It used to be we could actually find our common ground and work from there. Now it's all talking past each other to see who can score the most political points. When societies cease seeing their neighbors as neighbors and start seeing them as enemies... that's when civil unrest and genocide happens.

[@onixtv4034]

How on Earth did Family Guy ever appeal to College kids?

[@willissudweeks1050]

I can see it appealed to You!

[@onixtv4034]

@@willissudweeks1050 Thank you.

[@MASTEROFEVIL]

Those were 90's and early 2000's kids so comedy was actually comedy back then

[@Conorize]

Lois

[@TheStranger513]

@Weißer Wolf Why is it about time?

[@MrPixelMonster]

Wether it's SJW's or evangelic Christians, in America they all take it waaay too far

[@MrPixelMonster]

bongo155 WOOSH

[@MrPixelMonster]

Bear Arms given that shit like marriage still has a huge influence on both taxes, rights to your own children etc I'd say christianity still has a huge influence on modern day society...

[@andrewsork4897]

bongo155 you don't have to point out the baddies on the right when the topic at hand are the baddies on the left lol. And to be honest how many kids in college do you gotta worry about being evangelicals? Rhymes with hero

[@andrewsork4897]

bongo155 what's wrong with owning a gun?

[@andrewsork4897]

bongo155 you sure have a lot contempt for conservatives if you call them right wing shits. Btw the whole kneeling thing isn't comparable. The dudes are on the clock, you can't use your job for a political soapbox. It's self-absorbent. Why not raise money, or protest any other way? It ain't like the James Damore memo either Google literally asked him specifically for his opinion on how-to include women in the work place.

[@jacobgalloway9123]

We speak for the thin skinned and radical students who complain and take offense about everything. That's a great recipe for comedy.🙄

[@KGismyidol]

I’m a college student in Boston and I would like to say not all of us get triggered by jokes. Some of us actually respect and love comedy and would never try to dictate what a comedian does on stage.

[@elizabethwarrior684]

"Free speech isnt designed to protect us, its designed to keep us free" more or less the quote

[@RocStarr913]

It applies to the government. It doesn’t apply to businesses. Businesses are first and foremost about making money and not alienating a single customer.

[@badgamedevreacts3855]

In college you are allowed to think freely, as long as you don't offend someone. Basically don't think freely.

[@calden74]

Tailored fit, far left leaning, comedy that bans even dad jokes, I fail to see the diversity. "If you cannot adapt, get out". This just might be the scariest thing I've ever heard.

[@TheRockerX]

Ugh, this is why Trump won

[@SnowflakeCharles]

Yuuuuuup.

[@stankfanger1366]

That's the best thing about it and makes it all worthwhile.

[@TheRockerX]

@@stankfanger1366 I agree

[@RobertJamesChinneryH]

he is a great President ...thanks for the mention.

[@Y0uKnowMyName]

You have noone to blame but yourself.

[@gbeepee9995]

every feminist girl with glasses in their 20s has the same exact mannerisms and voice

[@tmzebe530]

LOL thank you. I knew her as if i grew up with her as soon as i saw her. It’s funny that exact type thinks theyre so intelligent/different while in reality EVERY ONE of them is the exact same. And I’m not hating on women(for all those liberal pc’s out there), the men who look like that are the exact same as well. Fucking sad.

[@justajawausingwifi4642]

Like they're clones

[@BlackEagle352]

Oh Amy is there to steal some jokes again.

[@stankfanger1366]

On the bright side at least somebody will get HPV out of it.

[@jordanwaskelis4913]

Amy Jewmer. She said so herself.

[@7DOLLABEATS]

Shhh!! U will ruin her hustle 🤣🤣🤣

[@Danimal1577]

2:57 "My number one priority of my job, is also to reduce student harm as much as humanly possible" "You think people are harmed by jokes?" "I think they can be"

[@ragidyymann5109]

When Larry The Cable Guy, Chris Rock, Bill Maher, Jerry Seinfeld, Patton Oswalt, and Judy Gold - among many other successful comedians - all decide to no longer play college campuses - let's stop blaming the comics and start blaming the campuses. When the court jester can no longer perform before the king, the kingdom has become far too tyrannical. But hey, I'm Cishet and white so I guess my opinion doesn't matter.

[@preddyshite6342]

Jesters literally got killed if they couldn't read the room

[@icantfixthis3459]

You cis white Male! How dare you even type words!

[@nickstoli]

If Don Rickles were performing at college campuses today, 8:00 would be his entire act.

[@annikaronning5523]

6:54 to 7:08 the girl with the purple hair saying comedy is in no way supposed to challenge you and cant trigger you in any way at all. this is depressing. im in gen Z and it is honestly embarrassing how no one my age can take a joke. even in normal groups. you have to make sure whatever you are doing wont offend anyone. that makes no sense

[@frankconrad8561]

7:12 "when Ive done standup I used to talk about my mom........." *_COMEDY_*

[@ilaser4064]

Couldn't help seeing the irony there. This muppet is now determining what people may find offensive, yet focused his 'stand up' on his mother. As if there aren't people out there that had horrendous experiences at the hands of their mother and wouldn't feel "triggered" by his 'mom jokes'??? As per usual, these idiots pick and choose what suits their narrative...

[@JRibs]

“When I’ve done standup I talk about my mom.” Sounds about right

[@Hugatree1]

J Ribs sounds like Leave it to Beaver, without the humor.

[@MrAdamloring1985]

Times like these, I mourn the death of Patrice O’Neal daily.

[@Malos_]

@bongo155 Better than this shite at least

[@divinejacobmathew1503]

@bongo155 you don't know Have you ever listened to anything he's ever done or said ? His time on Tough Crowd or Opie and Anthony? Probably not. So either you haven't discovered comedy gold or you just have really shitty sense of humour.

[@f0rumrr]

And the great george carlin.

[@brandonpennington8503]

yes.

[@raymondflores5176]

@@divinejacobmathew1503 hes always on fox talking bout libertarianism

[@girthbrooks8232]

It's a weird justification, that you pay a fictitious "moral arbiter of what we all should think" to screen things for viewing. These things might happen for elementary school speakers... These are adults. This is some 1984 shit.

[@RocStarr913]

Colleges are not the government. Colleges are all about protecting their brand and getting students to attend.

[@jerrythekazzyy]

being uncomfortable is actually a good thing, it helps you grow as a person, you become tougher and more self-reliant, these kids are doomed because they just downright refuse to adapt, perpetual childhood

[@jamesdragonforce]

Just out of curiosity, but would you encourage bullying because it “toughens” and it’s “uncomfortable”? I’m genuinely curious.

[@jerrythekazzyy]

@@jamesdragonforce No.

[@natefoldan]

That purple haired girl's face perfectly matches her personality.

[@tmzebe530]

LOL every chick that looks like that is the exact same. Looks/personality/everything.

[@tmzebe530]

Best part is they view themselves as intelligent/different when just by seeing one of them you know exactly who they are.

[@politereminder6284]

How dare you assume their gender! 😱 ( Clutching at pearls)

[@jensnilsson3035]

It's gonna be a hard awakening for these people when school ends and real life begins. They will quite rapidly find that alot of the world will not adjust to their wishes. Some will of course, but most won't. Life is not a "safe space". Life is a brutal experience that you need to learn to navigate.

[@briangriffin5359]

Jens Nilsson Sadly, they are changing the workplace too.Running to H.R. over every perceived slight.

[@imDezrt]

They make they world adjust to their whims. My mom does employment law for a major enterprise, and at least 30-40% people who get fired for legitimate reasons come back with a claim for compensation because "It's because of my race!! It's about my gender identity!!" give me a fucking break.

[@RocStarr913]

@@imDezrt The fact that litigation is such big business doesn’t help. You can sue for practically any little perceived slight.

[@forrestpailes1493]

"18 to 24 year olds now are more diverse than they've ever been" 3:40 Literally factually incorrect, its only the college campuses that are more diverse.

[@fanfan7511]

I wish Monty Python was on their stage telling them the deadliest joke in the world.

[@beetalius]

"18-21yr olds noowwww.... are more diverse than they've EVER been......" wow.

[@frankrizzo4747]

Like, totally

[@zachwarner1726]

Incredibly scientific- I have no doubt...

[@truthtube7165]

maybe superficially, but how can a group of individuals be diverse in OPINION when they all regurgitate the same bullshit they read on a shared article by the huffington post on facebook

[@afrocoolio25]

Considering that is a blanket statement, it is true. *However, a liberal arts school with a high female enrollment, no, that is not diverse.*

[@youcancallmeZimmy]

really! I couldn't figure out what has changed to add more diversity..more genders I guess, but that was an idiotic statement

[@pliskin100]

"We make experiences for students" You mean you vet anyone that might shake your echo chamber and trigger SJW snowflakes?

[@NewhamMatt]

I believe it was George Carlin who said, "Comedy doesn't work unless someone's getting offended."

[@Koujoung]

Eh, not really. I know of plenty of non-offensive comics who've had me completely rolling on the floor with the most nonchalant humor. I think many of these 'edgy' comedians really want to be edgy for the sake of being edgy. I've seen very few comedians who do the edge thing well. Bo Burnham does a good job for instance. Comedy is very subjective, like both the comedians featured in this video, neither of them appealed to me. Not because I found anything in their stuff offensive or unacceptable, but just because I didn';t find it appealing to my sense of humor.

[@NewhamMatt]

@@Koujoung Interesting take. You may be interested in this 15 minute editorial by Doug Walker (the Nostalgia Critic) on whether humour is getting more offensive, or whether we're just getting soft. (This was where I got Carlin's quote from.) See what you think: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eX_ceZ-Jfcd-atU

[@DahTruf]

I definitely think Judy Gold said it best. "Don't hire me if you don't want to hear what I have to say." The action item from there on is simple. Just say, "Ok."

[@rochester7051]

VICE, you helped bring this to college campuses. Are you making news to cover now? Don't get me wrong, I think it's brilliant.

[@squal6216]

Can you explain how vice did that? Or are left leaning people all just one voltron mech to you

[@CasiodorusRex]

I feel so sorry these kids have to live this way. Only if they could have experienced the 70's and 80's and the freedom's we had.

[@maxiepattie85]

i feel so bad for my sisters kids and can't even explain to them why yet. And even when they are older the difference between explaining and experiencing define understanding

[@RocStarr913]

Those freedoms were often at the expense of others though: women, people of color, queer people. They have more of a voice than they did back then, especially with the Internet and social media able to document their grievances.

[@davidhutchinson5233]

My question is....WTF happened to challenging ideas? Critical thinking? Thoughtful analysis? in the ICU if you ask me.

[@thewarmestmachine1211]

David Hutchinson ummmmmm ummmm bigotry is not a basis for an opinion furthermore stop acting like wrong ideas are challenging other opinions there just wrong later neckbeard

[@stoutyyyy]

Thewarmestmachine that’s exactly the point he’s trying to make. Believing that any opinion other than yours is immediately “wrong” and “bigoted” proves you need to be challenged intellectually

[@thewarmestmachine1211]

Stephen M. Stouter Upmmm that’s the thing these people act like there option as neo nazis are just as valid when there not there stupid and just wrong you can’t argue with facts sis

[@stoutyyyy]

Thewarmestmachine not everyone who disagrees with you is a neo-nazi, that’s just asinine.

[@thazmat]

@@thewarmestmachine1211 your kind tends to prefer socialist values over capitalism... Ironic because Hitler was a socialist himself.

[@MarkieMX]

Wow those 3 people were hilarious. Thank God they are in charge of humor on their campuses. The future is saved.

[@Psi01]

According to the comedian Tosh, even kids with terminal illness's in the make a wish foundation have more of a sense of humor. I'm a graduate student in materials engineering, and I think universities are great places to learn for fields like science and medicine, but gender studies has placed a stigma on the reputation of universities. For the most part I don't care how people want to live their life, but it's overbearing to demand respect and to go out of your way to censor opinions that contradict your own. Not every form of speech is protected under the 1st amendment like perjury, child pornography, and defamation, but comics should be free to make jokes. Great comedians are actually quite thick-skinned, since they deal with heckling all the time. If a routine falls through, they pick themselves back up, reassess their approach, and try something different in their next gig. I think that kind of determination is worth showcasing to people whether its in a comedy club or a university setting. Not all students at universities are like this; it's just that loud and stupid tend to mix well together, so we end up with people like flat earthers or anti-vaccination protesters.

[@thesimulation9651]

Judy Gold speaketh the truth

[@sledge6693]

This is upsetting on soo many levels. Carlin's 7 words you can't say would be seen by these colleges as completely appropriate. How did 'the marketplace of ideas' that is college get turned into this soul-less daycare centre where no-one can be offended?.

[@RocStarr913]

It’s because colleges have become afraid of litigation and being anything contrary to a politically correct line.

[@Harbinger_of_Doom]

The whole attitude of control is kind of disturbing. " If you want our money then you'll say what we want", withholding payment, turning off the microphone. That ideology is scary.

[@tulisanes]

Judy Gold is right - deal with it

[@underweightHater]

You should feel physically safe on campus. But if you feel intellectually safe, they aren't doing it right.

[@lookintoit4537]

Very nicely put.

[@NickRamone0]

Lol, "when I do stand up comedy I talk about my mom, God bless her." Lmao. That panel of college bookers are so hip it hurts me. Very triggered. That grey hair. D:

[@frankrizzo4747]

"God bless" would surely trigger young atheists, no?

[@mikestockman951]

I’ve yet to find someone who uses the phrase “cis het dudes” unironically who doesn’t need a punch in the face.