HEMA | Swordfish 2018 - Open Longsword FINALS

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Sword Echoes

Sword Echoes

Күн бұрын

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@crisco362
@crisco362 5 жыл бұрын
And the winner is HENRY OF SKALITZ!!!!!!!
@workingpeon9316
@workingpeon9316 4 жыл бұрын
From the company of sir Radzig KOBYLA!
@kamikazemelon787
@kamikazemelon787 4 жыл бұрын
:) gotta replay that soon
@MT_199
@MT_199 3 жыл бұрын
Having proved his combat skills in this round, he shall proceed to the next round!
@muaral-rasheed2565
@muaral-rasheed2565 3 жыл бұрын
I bet black Antoni is waiting for him on the exit....
@wisewigga7129
@wisewigga7129 3 жыл бұрын
@@muaral-rasheed2565 broke his head
@thecensoredcrusader
@thecensoredcrusader 5 жыл бұрын
>Hears Witcher 3 >AWWWWWWWWWW SHIET I completely missed the entire intro cause i have to go ham on that jam
@michaeltheisen
@michaeltheisen 5 жыл бұрын
Le Le Le! Le Le le le Le! Le Le le le Le! Le Le Le! Le le Le le Le leee le
@dustinsmith2021
@dustinsmith2021 5 жыл бұрын
Also because it’s 3 times louder than the dude talking...
@koczan8464
@koczan8464 5 жыл бұрын
@@dustinsmith2021 becouse its beautiful*
@NDNNDeNd
@NDNNDeNd 5 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@TurulHEMA
@TurulHEMA 5 жыл бұрын
I just love the video tags on this: katana, ninja, anime, manga, ghost of tsushima, japan, Japanese, for honor, etc. . .
@keithb4077
@keithb4077 5 жыл бұрын
#Conan #Highlander #KillBill #HeMan
@Abnormalproductions2
@Abnormalproductions2 5 жыл бұрын
Gotta get that ad revenue I guess...
@5chr4pn3ll
@5chr4pn3ll 5 жыл бұрын
Gotta try and teach people how to do things properly.
@emersonherrera3519
@emersonherrera3519 5 жыл бұрын
이진건 HEMA is the dark souls of sports.
@swordechoes
@swordechoes 5 жыл бұрын
Consider this small part of the video tags a targeted advertisement of this amazing sport for the people who spend time on the internet and enjoy sword fighting online. I'm just keeping everyone up to date. :) Truth be told, I did want to put "cute cats" in there as well, but unfortunately no cats were shown during the match.
@scaledsupremacy817
@scaledsupremacy817 5 жыл бұрын
Steel for humans, silver for monsters.
@Pidalin
@Pidalin 5 жыл бұрын
lead for nazis
@TheGodTell
@TheGodTell 5 жыл бұрын
gold for witchers
@parrisxsummers
@parrisxsummers 5 жыл бұрын
“Both swords are for monsters”
@haelmannwind181
@haelmannwind181 5 жыл бұрын
And coins for Witcher
@Eldoncho
@Eldoncho 4 жыл бұрын
Leather for enchantress
@jammyjimson-jones1118
@jammyjimson-jones1118 5 жыл бұрын
It was sweet how Sergy only started smiling when he began talking about his daughter. Not just from winning the fights.
@binaryfission9021
@binaryfission9021 5 жыл бұрын
The form of these competitors is absolutely beautiful to watch. I really appreciate that HEMA is promoting these old forms of combat. Maybe i can get my wife interested, it would be really good exercise for us and goodness knows she has probably wanted to smack me with a sword more than once.
@ambuknight
@ambuknight 5 жыл бұрын
Do be careful she can easily learn to use a Quarterstaff. And prop the mop handle on you in a instant LoL 😋 I kid I kid
@9f81rsd00
@9f81rsd00 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine, instead of a verbal argument, you settle disputes with a quick spar. Then your kid learns from it and challenges a classmate to a duel to the death... 🤔
@JHF80
@JHF80 4 жыл бұрын
I got coffe in my nose laughing at these comments...
@9f81rsd00
@9f81rsd00 4 жыл бұрын
it’s all fun and games until the quiet kid pulls out a loaded crossbow...
@lelushlamperush1072
@lelushlamperush1072 5 жыл бұрын
Красавчик Сергей, так держать. Особенно обрадовало такое уважительное отношение к оппоненту.
@staut8429
@staut8429 4 жыл бұрын
ток заменить филинг на геймсенс:D
@jamesfraley5596
@jamesfraley5596 5 жыл бұрын
This sport could really catch on... but it would need some improvements - like dozens of really good high speed cameras for slow-mo footage and better scoring based on a judge’s review of the actual damages that would be done by each strike. As is, it won’t become a popular spectator sport because it’s too fast & the severity of the strikes are not readily perceivable.
@zaganim3813
@zaganim3813 5 жыл бұрын
hard to do when hema has about 0% funding right now. most of the tournaments are financed by the small clubs themselves and does not have any sponsors to load up the cash
@jonathanmatheson7313
@jonathanmatheson7313 5 жыл бұрын
As it gets more popular it'll get more funding and then we'll start to see some of the improvements you're talking about. I can't wait😊👌
@ilitardo160
@ilitardo160 5 жыл бұрын
Also some stars would be good, and some branding. Hema should try to move as far away from traditional fencing and try to more replicate popular combat sports
@trin3052
@trin3052 5 жыл бұрын
It's not a sport and I don't want it to be. It's a martial art and every person in that audience is committed to the scholarship of it. Hema and all historical martial arts are very much about honor, if you get hit you admit it and if your not was bad you say so but even with that the judges decide it ultimately.
@HladniSjeverniVjetar
@HladniSjeverniVjetar 4 жыл бұрын
@@trin3052 Some good points there, it's not a sport it's a martial art. Meant for killing.
@geyotepilkington2892
@geyotepilkington2892 5 жыл бұрын
The reaction time of Sergey at 10:57 is incredible, that man was fighting for his life. What smooth transitions between parrying. That is true art, screw paintings d00d
@swordechoes
@swordechoes 5 жыл бұрын
Indeed, it's a pleasure to watch.
@thestuffmonster9856
@thestuffmonster9856 6 жыл бұрын
Wow, collecting footage, photos, and information and editing it all together must’ve taken a while. Great job.
@swordechoes
@swordechoes 6 жыл бұрын
You really do know how these things go! Couldn't done it any sooner. Thank you!
@barboss1331
@barboss1331 5 жыл бұрын
Респект Сергею!
@ambuknight
@ambuknight 5 жыл бұрын
Love that the referees look like they're bartender's of a fancy club or stright up butlers
@johanesjoy
@johanesjoy 4 жыл бұрын
One of the best and most satisfying longsolword match ever between Kuktaev and Olbrychski 👍👍👍
@swordechoes
@swordechoes 4 жыл бұрын
Indeed, it's a pleasure to watch! :)
@thomasvertommen9526
@thomasvertommen9526 5 жыл бұрын
I love that HEMA has been getting this kind of attention in recent years, and I hope it keeps going, but I have a huge gripe with these kinds of tournaments... I suppose it's a matter of perspective, but I see HEMA and Historical Fencing like a simulation of a fight with either sharp weapons, where the idea is to disable or incapacitate your oponent without getting wounded, or as a simulation of the 17th century tradition of fighting "until the first bleeding cut" with blunt Federschwerter. Based on unarmoured combat of course. Seeing this type of fighting is something that makes me cringe a little, with no disdain for these athletes' capacities I will add... but if those swords had been sharp, in 95% of the seen bouts, both contestants either would have been seriously wounded or maimed, or if it'd be with blunted swords and no armour (17th century blossfechten) then both would have broken limbs from the first rounds. One reason why I dislike these types of tournaments, both with the scoring system as with the high degree of protection that is worn, is that it takes away most defensive incentive, and promotes reckless and indiscriminate attacks: hitting is more important than not being hit, while it should be the other way around in my opinion. Also, the intensity and how hard they hit each other is completely in conflict with the concept of the sword as a weapon. It's partially the reason why at our club we fight with relatively little protection (mask, light leather or composite gloves, and a light jacket, like the SPES 350n Officer Jacket): first of all that you are more inclined to fight carefully for your own safety, and because you know your oponent is equally vulnerable, the scored hits are much lighter, craftier and elegant, while containing their historical "lethality" so to speak, since hypothetically, you really don't need a lot of force to mortally injure someone with a sharp sword. And so the sparring with blunt weapons should reflect that. Otherwise it just becomes MMA with iron rods and it won't retain any of its historical accuracy and intention. My point in short is: there's very few "clean" hits to be seen here. No matter how good your hit is, if you can't get out without being cut in return, your attack is as good as worthless. There shouldn't be this many double hits in a swordfight. For clarity: I fight in a Meyer-styled tradition of Blossfechten with minimal protection at Antwerp's Saint Michael's Guild, which isn't the most "orthodox" way of fighting in the HEMA-scene, and I know this opinion is far from new, and probably is not going to resonate with most HEMA-ists. Still, i hope it provides some food for thought.
@WindOfFields
@WindOfFields 5 жыл бұрын
yes
@WildtalondoesGaming
@WildtalondoesGaming 5 жыл бұрын
Agree
@trin3052
@trin3052 5 жыл бұрын
At my club while doing free sparring when you say "one more round" they mean one more clean round, you double you go again. I'm not sure if it's my club specifically or the difference between America and Europe but even though we wear a lot of gear (can't take chances with our expensive healthcare and greedy insurance) we don't count doubles and we don't hit too hard, if it's not hard enough it doesn't count, if it's too hard you get penalized.
@ravenoushydra7948
@ravenoushydra7948 5 жыл бұрын
true
@MC-wh3xm
@MC-wh3xm 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know anything about HEMA but I like your comment.
@markwei7979
@markwei7979 5 жыл бұрын
Compared to other Swordfish-Fights, this one seems to be the most intense and professional. Very good fighters!
@DMRaptorJesus
@DMRaptorJesus 5 жыл бұрын
Love how much traction this wonderful sport has been getting these last few years.
@MrFox77
@MrFox77 5 жыл бұрын
Сергей, поздравляю! Приятно смотреть. Красиво, предельно эффективно, по-рыцарски и видно, что для Вас это путь воина.
@soldierbreakneck771
@soldierbreakneck771 6 жыл бұрын
That was amazing! Great fight! Both showed really good technic! Congratulations for Sergey Kultaev!
@sdr31818
@sdr31818 5 жыл бұрын
Two constantly repeating techniques out of 4x Prinzipalhäue 12x "verkehrte Häue" 24x "handarbeiten" (for indes-Situations) and about 13x kinds of Zufechten to approach the enemy WITHOUT(!!!!) gettig hit. All described in books.. in one book very especially. This is... playing hide and seek with swords.. no respect for each other ones weapon. They fight to hit and don't fight not to be hit. I can't find a something beauty in it but the motivation of meeting people .. . To go for turnaments.. and even that mindset is questionable.
@lamaxe749
@lamaxe749 5 жыл бұрын
They should really bring hema to America
@Tigerseye41
@Tigerseye41 5 жыл бұрын
@@xomox5316 Based
@alexvestok6251
@alexvestok6251 5 жыл бұрын
Очень красиво! Спасибо Сергею за вдохновляющий бой!
@Ivan_FPV
@Ivan_FPV 3 жыл бұрын
Если бы противники были не очень -бой бы был так себе. Так что спасибо всем участникам. Все сильные бойцы.
@АлександрРешетников-з4г
@АлександрРешетников-з4г 3 жыл бұрын
Антон тоже хорош, он со своим клубом здорово популяризирует это искуство
@wagfinpis
@wagfinpis 5 жыл бұрын
Sergey Kultaev looks to be on a whole other level from his competition here. If they take of the armor it is not even close. The other guy moves his hands all disconnect from his body movements, just trying to score points, and he is still contained. Sergey Kultaev is challenging his actual sword craft, delivering meaningful blows, while beating the other guy to the point. Very impressive difference between Sergey Kultaev, and the other guy.
@thestuffmonster9856
@thestuffmonster9856 5 жыл бұрын
Antoni beat Sergey in the rematch (final) at Minsk, by the way. Made some smart adjustments, improved his thrust defense, and won the first and second rounds in a best of three match.
@Sprechfenster
@Sprechfenster 3 жыл бұрын
@@thestuffmonster9856 ;)
@SnowyFoxFox
@SnowyFoxFox 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing this! I've been wanting to see HEMA tournament coverage with this TV-like style of presentation. This is exactly the kind of thing I'd love to find more of.
@tUmUt995
@tUmUt995 5 жыл бұрын
11:40 just such a great exchange
@trin3052
@trin3052 5 жыл бұрын
A clean cut too a deep target, nice
@syyskuu
@syyskuu 5 жыл бұрын
Love how the fencer with the more "mature" style won. Much more satisfying than seeing the restless, snipey style of A.O. win. Of course no disrespect to the silver medalist either, it takes a lot to get to the finals.
@thestuffmonster9856
@thestuffmonster9856 5 жыл бұрын
Olbrychski was thrusting and cutting more “maturely” and wasn’t just sniping the legs in the elims. Kultaev is just a scary good fighter, and his cuts hit like a truck.
@viniciuspaiva3578
@viniciuspaiva3578 4 жыл бұрын
This should be in the Olympics!
@biggusdiccus6969
@biggusdiccus6969 4 жыл бұрын
Would be so much more entertaining to watch
@mellepella
@mellepella 5 жыл бұрын
Wait... Do I hear Witcher 3 music?!?!
@Gothamz-gy8ku
@Gothamz-gy8ku 5 жыл бұрын
yes
@mellepella
@mellepella 5 жыл бұрын
Gothamz fux yes
@Batman-nz2ue
@Batman-nz2ue 5 жыл бұрын
lolololololol, LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
@mellepella
@mellepella 5 жыл бұрын
Batman ?
@Batman-nz2ue
@Batman-nz2ue 5 жыл бұрын
@@mellepella reference to the lelele, fighting music of Witcher 3?
@nickart1372
@nickart1372 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for the effort put into this! Always a pleasure to see your own instructor displaying his skill against someone much better than you. Kinda funny that one of the strongest competitors representing the UK is also Russian, lol
@swordechoes
@swordechoes 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind words, I'm delighted to know you enjoyed it!
@ДмитрийКуренков-ч9й
@ДмитрийКуренков-ч9й 4 жыл бұрын
И Култаев, и Ольбрыхский. Ну это же просто праздник, товарищи.
@pfl95
@pfl95 5 жыл бұрын
We should have an AMMA (Armed Mixed-Martial Arts) where we incorporate all armed martial arts into a free flowing fencing sport. Kendo, Historical Chinese fencing, HEMA,.... not just the styles but weapons as well. If sth like that can get going and we can make an intl organisation that can incorporate different styles of fencing and armed arts around the world, it can be a great Olympics sport as well.
@planescaped
@planescaped 5 жыл бұрын
There was/is a youtube channel that is doing this right now and trying to get a TV deal... I don't remember what it was called.
@shaunhumphreys6714
@shaunhumphreys6714 5 жыл бұрын
definitely. i hate MMA. MMA actually put me off martial arts for a while, because it has stripped all of the tradition and honour out of it. Weapons are better.. i love fencing and i love two handed sword fighting=claymore. i would love to see more free flowing rallies with like twenty hits and parries in one go for example, rather than the pattern of tentative sword touching followed by someone thrusting in and usually getting struck, then the fighting broken up and they start again. i want a flowing rally of continuous blow and parries like a game of thrones sword fight, or any other medieval film.
@MrLimbei123
@MrLimbei123 5 жыл бұрын
shaun humphreys you only get those in fake fighting.
@magnusnordeidebrede892
@magnusnordeidebrede892 5 жыл бұрын
@@MrLimbei123 Or in continious HEMA fights and sparring. Problem with that is that it is hard to keep track of points, and therefore they need to invest in alot of slow-motion cameras, etc.
@archardor3392
@archardor3392 5 жыл бұрын
People will just pick the domimant weapon/style and you ll rarely ser anything else in the finals. The firat few years before the meta is defined will be neat though
@yrreiht4913
@yrreiht4913 5 жыл бұрын
Very skilled sportsmans indeed, I do feel the scoring system does not punish ''doubles'' enough. I'm not sure there was one engagement where one of the parties did not suffer an afterblow.
@mattilaiho7979
@mattilaiho7979 5 жыл бұрын
Note that afterblow and doubles are a different thing.
@trin3052
@trin3052 5 жыл бұрын
Key word is sportsman, this is far from historic or martial. This is the more sporty side of hema
@Delano.Smith26
@Delano.Smith26 3 жыл бұрын
I've never seen anything like this! I am terrified and amazed, i cant stop watching. Does this hurt!? I lost it when the blade went straight into the guys face :O
@SonarWavePulse
@SonarWavePulse 3 жыл бұрын
It does hurt to get hit hard, but the protective equipment keeps you well out of the danger area for the most part
@Delano.Smith26
@Delano.Smith26 3 жыл бұрын
@@SonarWavePulse:O IT LOOKED SO TERRIFYING🤣
@maexpert11
@maexpert11 2 жыл бұрын
Wow this is awesome, I do BJJ and kickboxing along with IDS, but I really wish I had stuff like this available to me in my area as well it looks so much fun
@ThePartyzanin
@ThePartyzanin 4 жыл бұрын
That was very nice move from Kultaev, respect!
@user-ew5xf3mn2j
@user-ew5xf3mn2j 3 жыл бұрын
Прекрасная работа!
@MrIpod1g
@MrIpod1g 5 жыл бұрын
Wow the new Witcher 4 graphics are amazing
@ДмитрийКуренков-ч9й
@ДмитрийКуренков-ч9й 4 жыл бұрын
В натуре. Иначе и не скажешь.😁
@IamJigle
@IamJigle 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine being on the losing end in a real duel back in those days. Train your entire life for it to be ended in seconds...
@TERMINUSxNATION
@TERMINUSxNATION 2 жыл бұрын
There may have been excemptions/secessions to be made~
@Señormakey
@Señormakey 2 жыл бұрын
Historically, duels to the death were uncommon. Generally, duels that ended in death became common in the era where "lords" or wealthy folk would participate. It was lower stakes to cause death for them because they generally did not care and were not trained as combatants. People who would duel as commoners or soldiers would rarely duel lethaly, because you actually wanted to get better and have people that are experienced with a weapon along side you.
@omari2306
@omari2306 Жыл бұрын
13:17 he feinted a thrust then proceeded to shift to a mezzano or mittelhaw or middle lateral cut. I include many feints in my own personal style of HEMA it's not all about attacking forwards you have to fool the opponent from time to time.
@roygbiv3305
@roygbiv3305 5 жыл бұрын
ive never seen this style of matches. cool from japan
@itsgonzalits
@itsgonzalits 4 жыл бұрын
The title of "Referee" can only be awarded to the best ninja in the facility. He is a master of his art, and can use his staff efficiently; even against two skilled swordsmen.
@Observer29830
@Observer29830 5 жыл бұрын
There sure are a lot of Russians in this tournament. Guess they're gonna be the next ones to take Jerusalem
@АхматХаджи-л8и
@АхматХаджи-л8и 5 жыл бұрын
Observer29830 не делай вид что ты иностранец
@michaeltheisen
@michaeltheisen 5 жыл бұрын
Deus Vult?
@ficedulamortis6434
@ficedulamortis6434 5 жыл бұрын
Russians are good at everything man. They basically own wrestling, and they're making it pretty big in MMA, now even in HEMA
@ДмитрийКуренков-ч9й
@ДмитрийКуренков-ч9й 4 жыл бұрын
@Anti-Federalist 1776 ой, да хорош. Перебор уже.
@Joe11Blue
@Joe11Blue 4 жыл бұрын
Constantinople first.
@bobu5213
@bobu5213 4 жыл бұрын
7:20 beautiful reckless uncovered thrust that is covered with an instant afterblow. Honestly don't throw around the term "good fencing" around so easily. He did nothing to cover himself afterwards even though it would have been so simple to defend his right from that incoming blade...
@marekplayer8506
@marekplayer8506 5 жыл бұрын
Love from Poland! ❤
@k39kUhmt2
@k39kUhmt2 3 жыл бұрын
Love from Russia! ❤
@disound4035
@disound4035 3 жыл бұрын
Ничего необычного, просто батя заглянул на свордфиш, чтобы привезти дочке блестяшку)))
@Sk0lzky
@Sk0lzky 5 жыл бұрын
Not a fan of the scoring system, mostly a great fight though
@syyskuu
@syyskuu 5 жыл бұрын
What about the scoring system bothers you in particular?
@Riname-K
@Riname-K 5 жыл бұрын
goggles789 yeah it’s the unfortunate plague of HEMA. I do remember them trying out a continuous match where both fighters don’t stop fighting until the timer is up, but this puts pressure on the referees to spot out the hits therefore the scoring is not guaranteed to be correct. Fun and intense to watch though and I’d like to see them do it again soon.
@cygil1
@cygil1 5 жыл бұрын
@@Riname-K Hema scored like boxing would be interesting. Very, very subjective of course, but it could work.
@gustavosanabio473
@gustavosanabio473 5 жыл бұрын
@goggles789 Sharp swords hurt man. Even if it does not seem like there is much force, it may have cut deep were it sharp. you have to remember the longer a sword is, the faster the point (or its end in general) moves, like a giant lever. Maybe the wrist move was not very exagerated and does not seem to have much force put the speed of the tip/far end of the sword is moving FAST.
@Silverado-pq6xe
@Silverado-pq6xe 5 жыл бұрын
goggles789 You know swords are made for cutting and stabbing, right??? Do you want them to actually fight to the death with no armour?
@mp9810
@mp9810 3 жыл бұрын
Watched sword fighting today. Learnt that in a sword fight... EVERONE dies. All the time.
@Magnus689
@Magnus689 5 жыл бұрын
Referee has a stick, in case fighters go berserk
@Sylani
@Sylani 3 жыл бұрын
This makes a very IMPORANT point. Whatever you thought about "Sword-Battles" ... they mostly lastet fewer than 10 seconds ... QED! ;)
@fadingdimension
@fadingdimension 4 жыл бұрын
The lyrics to intro music. lelelelelelelelelelelelelel Also great enthusiasm from the announcers.
@adamplentl5588
@adamplentl5588 5 жыл бұрын
I need to be part of this.
@TheNorthlander
@TheNorthlander 4 жыл бұрын
When that Witcher soundtrack hits you just GET HYPED FOR SOME STEEL ON STEEL. ...using historically viable techniques, of course.
@z-o-v4539
@z-o-v4539 5 жыл бұрын
Serges Kultaev Vivat!!!! Vivat!!!
@sergeyleopard8872
@sergeyleopard8872 2 жыл бұрын
Молодец Сергей! Профессионал ✊ уважаю.
@DefeatedRoyalist
@DefeatedRoyalist 5 жыл бұрын
The classiness is so on par that the refs wear tux! The combat is beautiful as well:)
@ZionCircleMartialArts
@ZionCircleMartialArts 3 жыл бұрын
HIT ME UP - WORLD CHAMPIOIN - CHOOSE YOUR RULES - RESPECT ALWAYS
@HarryLinoobcvFmeLEE
@HarryLinoobcvFmeLEE 2 жыл бұрын
Very good video,love from Deutsch
@ivizore7017
@ivizore7017 5 жыл бұрын
LOL just came across this video and saw the janitor from my old school, Jimmy Olsson
@haraldharfager936
@haraldharfager936 5 жыл бұрын
Were not talking about the skidmark at 1:41 right?
@whisperill7597
@whisperill7597 3 жыл бұрын
First time i see these duels. Its very nice but why do they jump all the time?
@doddood5516
@doddood5516 4 жыл бұрын
They doin judo, in hema, with witcher music, i love it!
@ArthurHerbst
@ArthurHerbst 6 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@swordechoes
@swordechoes 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Tried to get it done asap.
@brandoncastellano1858
@brandoncastellano1858 3 жыл бұрын
Why didn’t I ever find out about this?? Is there a place I can learn?
@behaviouralgenomics438
@behaviouralgenomics438 3 жыл бұрын
What type of wretling is going on here? Is it meant to be collar and elbow?
@flintrocks
@flintrocks 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing stuff! Odd that thrusts award more points than cuts? What is the reasoning behind this?
@zachariaravenheart
@zachariaravenheart 5 жыл бұрын
I think it's because thrusts are more deadly. I could be wrong
@Rocknoob49
@Rocknoob49 5 жыл бұрын
@Ravenheart is correct. Additionally: A well covered thrust is really hard to perform and leaves the opponent unable to set an afterblow while also "fatally wounding" them, were it a real fight. It's generally a great way to deal with both your opponent and his weapon, if done correctly.
@ericonmarzs
@ericonmarzs 5 жыл бұрын
@@Rocknoob49 A thrust in what context is more deadly than a cut? if you mean counter thrusting your opponents face/head and thus catching his sword on your own and effectively holding it off/locking it off then yes this is an very effective counter, your opponents after blow is caught and he's instantly dead by head shot, but it is no better than doing the same thing with a high or middle cut. But if you mean stabbing your opponent in the body I disagree unless you hit the spine or your lucky enough he goes into shock, most likely you've just stuck your sword in him and given him to opportunity for him to attack you back people don't instantly die from a thrust to the body, he would have the ability to pull out his dagger also, silver wrote in 1600 a case were a man was stabbed several times with a rapier yet went on to kill his opponent. Perhaps you mean a counter thrust to the right shoulder of your opponent as this often also catches their sword, but the opponent can still use their left arm to draw a dagger or grapple, it would also be less lethal than a zornhaw/diagonal or high cut counter to the right shoulder as that would likely cut through the shoulder entirely and cause more severe bodily harm. Aside from silvers example there is modern dagger and knife crime where people are stabbed tens of times before dying or often escaping with many wounds, or gun shots for that matter, stabbing you opponent in the body isn't as damaging as cutting. Perhaps you mean, "more deadly" as harder for your opponent to deal with? This is probably subjective I've encounter opponents who are poor at defending thrusts, but in my experience the easiest counters to pull off are those that use the master cuts, with zwerchaw at the top of the list, followed by the simple high cut, in all cases the off line movement does the job.
@ericonmarzs
@ericonmarzs 5 жыл бұрын
@@zachariaravenheart I don't think they are, a thrust to the face that reaches the brain, is definitely just a deadly as cutting someones head off. But a thrust to the body can do almost nothing to a opponent cooked up on adrenaline, thrust the stomach and the guy won't die for days, sword fights end in seconds. If the spine is pierced the thrust will be deadly but that is unlikely, a thrust to the heart doesn't result in instant death either there is is 30seconds-1minute of movement left. Silver wrote in 1600 of an account were a man was stabbed several times in a rapier duel only to kills his opponent, then there is modern day knife and dagger statistics that show people needing to be stabbed tens of times to die. Most likely they give more points for control, thrust counters are a very easy way for marshals to see control, where you hit your opponent but stop his after blow/remove his ability to after blow. rather than just hitting and then trying to step out of the way fast, the same thing can be done with a cut (in fact I find it easier with a cut) but it looks less clear from certain angles.
@trin3052
@trin3052 5 жыл бұрын
More deadly however I don't like it. Historically thrusts were outlawed I'm maybe places because of their lethality but with modern steel feders the now have give and aren't as dangerous
@KonstantinPobedonoscev
@KonstantinPobedonoscev 5 жыл бұрын
Beautiful competition, a worthy winner! (Красивое соревнование, достойный победитель!)
@aaronjacobamadorsalazar1934
@aaronjacobamadorsalazar1934 5 жыл бұрын
Them being idle waiting to attack reminds me so much of Kendo LMAO
@archi.lochus
@archi.lochus 4 жыл бұрын
I think there must be sanctions for afterblows, really looks wierd when they keep fighting after thrust in head. That just counter to main fencing rule - hit and don't get hitted, isn't it?
@DoreanRoshe
@DoreanRoshe 2 жыл бұрын
Чорт, почему это видео пришло ко мне только сегодня? Это круто :0 Хотелось бы видеть и больше... Дисциплин? Как, например, древковое оружие. Но я понимаю, что это сложно организовать и пожалуй, может быть травмопасно, как с алебардой, например. В прочем, прекрасная работа🗿👍🏻
@BeowulfAllraudr
@BeowulfAllraudr 5 жыл бұрын
I want to compete
@artur7444
@artur7444 5 жыл бұрын
Молодец , красивые матчи )
@TheDubVee
@TheDubVee 6 жыл бұрын
I'm not a HEMA expert by any means but to me it looks like no one utilizes lateral movement. In boxing you move left to right to avoid shots coming from your opponents. For example moving to your right to avoid an opponent's strong right hook and also opening up an angle of attack. I don't know if this is something that's been tried and found ineffective but watching the last bout it seemed red would attack and then retreat straight back. If he would attack and then circle away from his opponent's strong hand I think that would have helped. Again, I could be totally wrong on this, I'm applying what I know from one martial art and applying it to another. I'd like to hear actual strategy on it.
@Trollvolk
@Trollvolk 6 жыл бұрын
It really depends on your style and on your opponents attacks. It has a lot of advantages to step out of the line, I both are quiet "agressive" they won't try to step out. They fight very straight an " long". To rush and to be get the most speed as possible for their attacks. That's why they have so many double hits
@ME_YA4P
@ME_YA4P 6 жыл бұрын
The problem is that due to the longer distance created by the longsword, you can't just take one step to get as many degrees around the opponent. Also, since the sword generally attacks in a line and only becomes a point with the thrust, it's easier to catch someone and hit them even if they do step aside, than it would be than in boxing. Lateral movement happens more commonly in close play, when they are in distance to reach out and touch each other with their arms and the swords get tangled up nearer the hilts. Or basically boxing range. But that's less common in tournaments since its messy and judges have a hard time seeing what happens For this reason there's a very heavy emphasis on maintaining the center line between you and the opponent(basically the touching of tips, constantly, they're trying to find an "in" and the moment they notice it they just thrust straight for the head), which makes it seem very straightforward. Though some fencers also utilizes zig-zagging steps to create that distance, too. If you look at matches by Ties Kool, he will often "circle" his opponent while trying to find an opening, but even he gets pretty bullheaded once it comes to blows.
@McClain3000
@McClain3000 6 жыл бұрын
I first noticed this also, and maybe lateral movement could be utilized slightly more. However the main difference is that in longsword and most fencing the end of the blade moves so fast relative to the rest of the body that there is no slips or dodges really, your main line of defense is staying out of range or parrying. So they don't prioritize moving off the center line they have to maintain the proper stance to be able to parry or move out of range.
@HillardEarl
@HillardEarl 6 жыл бұрын
This is fairly Young, they have a term Cavare, that will come later. That is when the two swords are in what is known as a bind, you see it in movies, when the two swords are in a cross, that cross is your only protection. Like I said that should come later.
@sdr31818
@sdr31818 5 жыл бұрын
You are absolutesly right. Imagine an art, doesn't matter what kind of.. you have notes even basic biological movents and all in all the art was created in a) not getting hit! b) been able to hold your body and NOT to fall c) no defensive gear in former times to show the art with blunt swords 500 years ago a.s.o ... in my opinion they use two notes to play a melody on a flute.
@icebear326
@icebear326 4 жыл бұрын
So when is this gonna be in the Olympics
@SonarWavePulse
@SonarWavePulse 3 жыл бұрын
Hopefully, never. Olympics ruin martial arts
@aaron4820
@aaron4820 5 жыл бұрын
The IPSC / USPSA competitive shooting community brought the cinema goers the John Wick series, I wonder when will be the HEMA's chance to shine.
@shadekeigarblacksky
@shadekeigarblacksky 4 жыл бұрын
The boss music is so dang good
@Re-2005
@Re-2005 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder if there are any HEMA clubs in my country Indonesia
@trin3052
@trin3052 5 жыл бұрын
You can find lots of videos on KZbin and articles online to learn from the manuscripts and other sources. Most companies producing feders ship everywhere so the club is more like a study group and entirely unnecessary but a lot of fun.
@zackgeorgly5099
@zackgeorgly5099 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, there are HEMA clubs in Indonesia. Here's the Facebook group for them: facebook.com/groups/hemaindonesia/
@MobiusCoin
@MobiusCoin 5 жыл бұрын
What's the judo looking sport?
@thrownswordpommel7393
@thrownswordpommel7393 5 жыл бұрын
It's probably Glima ( viking wrestling ).
@zaganim3813
@zaganim3813 5 жыл бұрын
@@thrownswordpommel7393 its actually medieval wrestling, but not far off :)
@trin3052
@trin3052 5 жыл бұрын
Ringen, it's called ringen
@trin3052
@trin3052 5 жыл бұрын
@@thrownswordpommel7393 ringen
@mike_swag2660
@mike_swag2660 2 жыл бұрын
Love the witcher music
@jarnodatema
@jarnodatema 5 жыл бұрын
Whats that pole for
@NinjaAF2099
@NinjaAF2099 3 жыл бұрын
The music in the intro belongs in an Assassin’s Creed game 😂 I absolutely love it and so fitting for the sport being displayed.
@jerrymorrison3390
@jerrymorrison3390 4 жыл бұрын
Have they considered an open weapons round like nunchaku(I like Bruce Lee style nunchaku) or other weapons?
@Gguy061
@Gguy061 Жыл бұрын
I hope this takes off like MMA did. This is some soul calibur shit
@hyenagametalk7293
@hyenagametalk7293 5 жыл бұрын
what would anyone say about a 15 year old wanting to learn hema?
@MrAustinGman
@MrAustinGman 5 жыл бұрын
expected
@appleyanimator6541
@appleyanimator6541 5 жыл бұрын
I started at 14, so I think you're good
@hyenagametalk7293
@hyenagametalk7293 5 жыл бұрын
@@appleyanimator6541 ouk, cause i love this kinda stuff and id love to learn it but id just like to know if itd be unusual for someone my age to learn this kinda stuff, long sword fighting seems dope
@Isaiah-tp1nc
@Isaiah-tp1nc 5 жыл бұрын
I started at 15 and now I’m 16 been doing it over a year
@lassim3111
@lassim3111 5 жыл бұрын
I started when i was 11
@camaradacomissario9641
@camaradacomissario9641 3 жыл бұрын
Is it HEMA ou BJJ?
@JarrylKhan
@JarrylKhan 4 жыл бұрын
I like the random jiu jitsu match thrown in at 0:46. Would be cooler if they were covered in chainmail.
@RoadHater
@RoadHater 6 жыл бұрын
excellent display of fencing.
@camoman132
@camoman132 5 жыл бұрын
Can someone explain the wrestling and judo/ bjj to me is it hema wrestling? Whats the two differences in this event
@trin3052
@trin3052 5 жыл бұрын
It's ringen and also wrestling happens in fencing too, it's a part of fighting in the bind
@サトウカズマ-k9x
@サトウカズマ-k9x 4 жыл бұрын
That’s cool!
@galina_galina_galina
@galina_galina_galina 5 жыл бұрын
Сергей, молодец!
@ИванАндриянов-л8д
@ИванАндриянов-л8д 4 жыл бұрын
Сергей настоящий воин,имеет уважение к поверженному противнику.
@dragonknightsofantar1737
@dragonknightsofantar1737 5 жыл бұрын
Quick question. Are the blades thinned to decrease weight for safety, or it it for speed?
@tobiashartl2759
@tobiashartl2759 5 жыл бұрын
Since nobody has answered you until now, it's mostly for safety. A proper longsword doesn't differ much in speed from a Feder like those.
@dragonknightsofantar1737
@dragonknightsofantar1737 5 жыл бұрын
@@tobiashartl2759 Cool. Thank you for the answer.
@MrodriguezProd
@MrodriguezProd 5 жыл бұрын
​@@dragonknightsofantar1737 Since nobody gave you the actual answer until now : The federschwert, "feather sword", was a blunt longsword used in training or tournaments in the German world during the late middle ages and the renaissance. Despite its look, the blade is not "thin", but rather narrow, since the edge is several millimeters thick. So the sword retains the same balance and weight of a regular longsword. It's safer, more durable and cheaper to make, which make the feder an excellent choice for sport purposes.
@dragonknightsofantar1737
@dragonknightsofantar1737 5 жыл бұрын
@@MrodriguezProd Thanks Michel!
@Mad_Mally
@Mad_Mally 5 жыл бұрын
Is there prize money for winning in these tournaments?
@CzornyLisek
@CzornyLisek 5 жыл бұрын
Is some there is. Like this one for example. Tho nobody does it for prizes. As it's not that type of thing.
@elonmust7470
@elonmust7470 5 жыл бұрын
What's that big stick for?
@CzornyLisek
@CzornyLisek 5 жыл бұрын
To stop them from fighting. It safer to put stick between 2 people with swords than to do what boxing referees do.
@colinjones439
@colinjones439 4 жыл бұрын
I love the Silver for Monsters in there
@Яков-э8у
@Яков-э8у 5 жыл бұрын
Самый результативный-колющий...
@Joe11Blue
@Joe11Blue 4 жыл бұрын
Wait grappling is allowed?
@scandilad5152
@scandilad5152 Жыл бұрын
Depends on the rules but yea afaik it is, "dominating" your opponent gives more points than a strike to the head. Sorry for necro lol.
@erickruckenberg8716
@erickruckenberg8716 5 жыл бұрын
why is this only recently becoming a thing??? They should have been out 20 years ago I would have done this f****** s*** in high school
@zoommair
@zoommair 5 жыл бұрын
Sword fighting and grappling? Where do I sign up?
@trin3052
@trin3052 5 жыл бұрын
Search up hema resources and find some manuals and a friend
@mystikast
@mystikast 5 жыл бұрын
Is the blonde girl with the stick not in danger?
@appleyanimator6541
@appleyanimator6541 5 жыл бұрын
It's a quarterstaff, not simply a "stick" and no, she's not in danger - she keeps a long distance, knows how to react and only steps in when necessary
@msDanielp369
@msDanielp369 5 жыл бұрын
She has a stick she's not in danger
@WindOfFields
@WindOfFields 5 жыл бұрын
Good fighting! Хороший бой!
@claireworrell4944
@claireworrell4944 5 жыл бұрын
I think we all can agree, if these were real swords both fighters would be dead.
@MrodriguezProd
@MrodriguezProd 5 жыл бұрын
I suppose you can blame it on the amount of protective gear and the rule set that rewards quick suicidal snipes. It's a complex topic; what are we trying to achieve with these tournaments ? It looks a lot like modern fencing with longswords, lacking the "H" of HEMA. It would be nice to have more categories. There are cutting competitions, so why not a category rewarding proper technique ? It would be less boring if we had tournaments more in that style : facebook.com/escrimedievale17/videos/1302844619877132/
@trin3052
@trin3052 5 жыл бұрын
@@MrodriguezProd it's the rules not the gear. My club figures with better gear than that but we still fight as though we're not wearing it.
@MrodriguezProd
@MrodriguezProd 5 жыл бұрын
@@trin3052 I agree, but I did mention the rule set (just to have the last word).
@Thememesbringer-hk6vc
@Thememesbringer-hk6vc Жыл бұрын
O e day i will be here
@aaronjacobamadorsalazar1934
@aaronjacobamadorsalazar1934 5 жыл бұрын
I feel the Kendo vibe from Kultaev vs Olbrychski
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