Victor Davis Hanson: Savior Generals: How a Rare Few Win Lost Wars

"Savior Generals: How a Rare Few Win Lost Wars"
a lecture by Victor Davis Hanson

[@lankness1]

Victor and T. Sowell make CA livable. Just knowing that they are here with me makes me feel better.

[@Bama334]

Well said!

[@abatesnz]

If you want economics then another Pepperdine man George Reisman is also there.

[@terry4137]

Does T. Sowell live in Cali too? Oh lord!

[@seanyager3177]

Would you still say Cali is livable today, 11 years later? Lol

[@lankness1]

@@seanyager3177 only because I'm still alive. 😳

[@davetmcguire]

Once again, Victor brings history to life. Note that, ahem, he is not referring to notes? all in his head. the time line he paints is especially good. Much much better than flipping TV channels! history channel cannot compare his verbal paintings.

[@vblue3926]

Verbal paintings. Love that.

[@travis1143]

Oh and by the way, Trump is a tragic hero and nothing you say will convince him otherwise.

[@davetmcguire]

@@travis1143 Can't argue with that :-)

[@crowneproductions9908]

Victor Davis Hanson is a national treasure and I mean that very sincerely. Thank Doctor! I learn so much from your talks.

[@rickbruner]

VDH was prescient about the recent Petraeus events. Not as dramatic an ending as Themistocles' or Patton's, but his exit from service due to a petty affair reminds me of Patton almost dying from an oxcart after surviving the entire war. The upshot is that these men see cold, hard reality where others don't and the sensitivity and solitude of their genius makes them mad in ordinary endeavors outside of their tailored purpose. I wish one of 'em would march on the CA capitol and rid the corruption.

[@Orvtrebor]

This guy is great, I've heard a couple of his other lectures.

[@LoricFox]

Yea🌟 I am definately a lifelong fan🇺🇲love me some VDH👍

[@anthonysimon4991]

VDH needs to put more on KZbin.

[@LoricFox]

Massive library exists🌟🇺🇲 its a treasure hunt🦄 go for it🌈

[@jackjones3657]

He is a professor, I believe, with the outstanding freedom loving Hillsdale college in Michigan, where anyone can learn of the true America and her amazing history, for free!

[@lolamby1]

starts at 4:50

[@kennethjohnson4226]

Brilliant

[@1greggie]

Story telling has never been so good. Brings back the campfire talks of a couple centuries ago. Outshines even Drag Queen Show hour. And like Trump, no script!

[@ryangerardcomedy425]

Very interesting. I just read Ripples of Battle. He's a great writer.

[@fromthepagesofhistory3248]

A very awesome book 📖.

[@JulianThePhilosopher]

i'm a really big fan, like carnarge and culture the most.

[@calvinowens9404]

Can anyone tell me what is being said at: 21:45 to 21:50 ? For several seconds it sounds like a foreign language to me!

[@motorcop505]

calvin owens He says "And yet, Grant is doing the Republic a great deal because he is attritting at a ratio of 3 losses to Lee's 2. It's a terrible arithmetic."

[@rusoviettovarich9221]

Great lecture - he cited Leonidas but wondered why not Caesar - Bridge across the Rhine, Gallic Wars, Iberia, Britannia, Caucasus - tyrant 'yes' but understood the impending collapse of the republic unless reforms were made

[@MrBasilGanglia]

@JulianThePhilosopher Carnage and Culture was the best of his books that I have read.

[@setnaffa]

Sad that we treat our winning generals so poorly.

[@daviddavenport9350]

Apropos of the Midwestern farmers as fighters...it was said that when Philip Sheridan was sent as an observer to the Franco-Prussian war...he telegraphed back to Grant..."Give me the Wisconsin regiments and I'll whip both of these armies at the same time!"......

[@ghostinthemachine8243]

Go to 4:50 mark for beginning of VDH lecture

[@benjaminpendleton7797]

"We must act with vindictive earnestness against the Sioux, even to their extermination, men, women and children." Telegraph from the "Savior General" Sherman to President Grant

[@chris432t6]

Too bad the sound of coughing is so much louder than the speaker but this is a great lecture/talk nonetheless.

[@oldkoot5828]

Yea, theaudio is terrible.

[@ppumpkin3282]

VDH comes on at 4:50.

[@kaykizzil]

Mvp

[@hectorgarcia6098]

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[@Odisej1]

Sound not good quality :'(

[@PalleRasmussen]

Zhukov? Russians adore him, which is strange as he sacrificed so many of them with suicidal tactics. You might want to read some of Glantz' works.

[@dennisyoung7363]

Every country sacrifices soldiers for the state. Zhukov was no different...and he won.

[@NeblogaiLT]

Considering the advantage in resources (manpower and war machines)- Russia only needed a somewhat competent general, not prone to big mistakes to eventually win.

[@abatesnz]

@Doug Bevins The war was lost in 5 months from June 22 to December 7, 1941. VDH highlights that the lesson from WW2 was that the countries that killed the most people (DE & JP) lost to the countries that built the most stuff (US, and distant 2nd UK). Whereas DE & JP could win border clashes against less industrialised and ill-prepared neighbours, they could never have hoped to win once they bought a fight with the US, the USSR and the British Empire. The Russians were almost out of the war due to having built their factories too far west and being destroyed and/or overrun. It was only Western materiel (Northern convoys, shipments to their East that Japan didn't dare touch) that kept them in the war to allow Zhukov to use his manpower, and ultimately materiel (US trucks VS DE donkeys), advantage to ultimately win at great cost in terms of men.

[@ellethekitten]

terrible audio. :(

[@MrBasilGanglia]

@5thtrip That would be "Living" historians.

[@oldkoot5828]

The audio needs help.

[@hectorgarcia6098]

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[@StereoSpace]

Colonel David Hackworth called Matt Ridgeway the finest leader of soldiers he'd ever seen.

[@dennisyoung7363]

Yep, read Hackworth's About Face

[@motorcop505]

And Hack was another certifiable wild man!

[@dennisyoung7363]

Hack was thoughtful, energetic and he gave a fuck.

[@motorcop505]

Dennis Young Exactly! He had an amazing number of awards for heroism, and even then he was cheated out of at least one DSC, if not the MOH. He was the real deal. His book Steel My Soldiers’ Hearts dealing with his time as a BN commander is a true classic.

[@dennisyoung7363]

I read About Face. Very thorough analysis.

[@hectorgarcia6098]

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[@PalleRasmussen]

He also did not fight for democracy. Which was one of the prerequisites. In fact quite the opposite, he fought for a terrible dictatorship.

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[@grahamcombs4752]

Do we actually know how women in the military as combatants has developed or become?

[@martinholmes639]

They die like any soldier but they make more noise.

[@davewilmoth6678]

Improve your sound quality!

[@oldkoot5828]

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[@hectorgarcia6098]

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[@ewok40k]

I'd like to add one more general to the historic list: Zhukov, the man who came back from brink of defeat to defend Moscow, counterattack at Stalingrad, trap Germans at Kursk and finally storm Berlin...

[@scottzike1054]

ewok40k .. one of the speakers delineators was .. fought for a democracy .. I may be mistaken .. but .. I do not think Comrade Marshall Zhukov qualifies there.

[@abatesnz]

@@scottzike1054 And it was only the economic power of the democracies and the material they produced and supplied (Lend Lease, Northern Convoys, Convoys to East Russia) that made the comeback possible.

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[@terry4137]

Is this a college? Damn, ppl sound so accepting and respectful. Hmmm, contrary to the youth today. Hmmmm

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[@PalleRasmussen]

A note, Petraeus basically copied the French "Guerre Revolutionnairre" from post Indochina.

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[@anhumblemessengerofthelawo3858]

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[@thebadcellist]

There is a straight line between VDH’s “great man” mindset and his noxious politics.

[@ivajloberberov1732]

Hi there Lefty..😢

[@richardpruett7500]

As brilliant as VDH is, and knowing about Curt LeMay as much as he does, I wish he'd take an independent look at the JFK assassination and begin helping us educate our countrymen about the Deep State.

[@StereoSpace]

Looked at from a purely self-interest viewpoint, the KGB killed Kennedy on Brezhnev's orders in retaliation for Cuban Missile Crisis. Senior members of the East Bloc security services believed that. It certainly makes sense and explains a lot of otherwise inexplicable things.

[@leebranch1228]

Oswald so obviously acted alone without any complicity of anyone (other than his wife who knew he'd attempted to kill Gen. Walker with his Carcano and did nothing?), that it is absurd to allude to any one, or any group as having abeted him.

[@feereel]

@@leebranch1228 ...????

[@titscapone1194]

@@StereoSpace Apparently you haven't seen the footage close up inside the car. I forget if it was the driver or the passenger in front, but although it's very quick and blurry you can see them turn and shoot. There is a Bill Cooper video you can watch. The traditional narrative is completely false as are many official stories. Aside from Bill's religious propaganda and being initially deceived by the military to think our secret military weapons were other worldly as is being pushed with the alien/supposed second coming agenda, he did have some valid points. Btw, it's very curious when you have a whole race of people who can't ever be criticized or questioned and people think that's ok, because they're brainwashed into thinking they can do no wrong. It's also strange considering many of these people I'm referring to are extremely wealthy and privileged, but always play the victim role..always! People are worshipping a guy who never actually existed 2000 years ago and sitting back allowing themselves collectively to be dominated and lead down the so called garden path to mass murder in the name of God. Unbelievable. Just curious where all of the book trees are in nature. I've never seen any, pretty damn obvious they made it up to rule over everyone. Nature, the universe, or what people think is God, doesn't write books to control people and threaten to kill everyone except a hundred plus thousand. Utter bs, through and through if we're being honest. No need for rational thought, just be extremely fearful of someone who's supposed to love everyone, 😂.

[@titscapone1194]

VDH is very interesting, however his views on Osama Bin Laden are completely asinine. There's no way he took down the towers. How does the Pentagon which is one of the most secure buildings in the world have no footage of the attack? They had already decided before the dust settled it was the Muslims and had people on tv saying we have to go after them. Also very curious how a Tower that wasn't even hit went down. When you watch the towers fall, you can clearly tell it was a controlled demo, which is why any expert who spoke out about it, and COVID for that matter, are either completely ostracized or have their careers ruined. Also why there was such a rush to cut up the steel wreckage and ship it off to China, our supposed major enemy to be melted down. Logic alone can power through the deception and see it for what it is. In addition, it's extremely peculiar how many dual citizens we have in high positions in Government and our major corporations, most being dual citizens of the U.S. and Israel. This should all be warning signs that your country is in enemy hands. Why are we constantly fighting wars for Israel, yet we're loosing our privacy and freedoms here? We need to abandon Israel, it's killing us.

[@hectorgarcia6098]

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[@tjclarke238]

Classical leadership vs. Trump.....VDH uses more anecdotal argument in the Post-Trump era.

[@kolandy5543]

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[@benjaminpendleton7797]

Sherman a "brilliant" commander? He wasn't "surprised" at Shiloh, as Hanson claims, he was grossly negligent, comically, laughably negligent, as Hanson well knows. Sherman not only failed to build defensive positions and to order proper pickets and patrols, he refused to even consider the possibility of a Confederate attack; worse, he indignantly ignored and mocked the subordinates who did try to warn him of attack, and got many of his men needlessly maimed and killed as a result. He should have been court-martialled. Later, incredibly, he actually had the gall to try to blame his men to cover up his own negligence and incompetence, calling them cowards. And this is a shining example of honorable, "man of the people" leadership? Many of his own men, including high ranking officers,.made it clear that they were not at all impressed. But Grant and Sherman covered for each other, Halleck swept it all under the rug, and the rest, as they say, is history. One could easily get the impression from Hanson's talk that Sherman's goal was to only target the wealthy, slave-owning class. Wrong. Sherman himself stated otherwise: he was going to "make old and young, rich and poor, feel the hard hand of war." A number of Sherman's own dark, raging words contradict Hanson's rather rosily noble version of history. I love Hanson, but this version of history contains a good dose of spin. Quite disappointing. If you want to argue that targeting and attacking civilian non-combatants was necessary to win the war, fine. But let's not sugarcoat it with lofty rhetoric and false idols.

[@benjaminpendleton7797]

"... we must act with vindictive earnestness against the Sioux, even to their extermination, men, women and children." Telegraph message from Sherman to Grant.

[@smithrandall1]

Misses the mark on Petraeus. That man was more like MacArthur. Very egotistical, did not instill loyalty in his brigade and battalion commanders at the 101st. It was obvious from much earlier that he interested in promoting himself first. Also, there is no historical evidence that Themistocles committed suicide. Still a good presentation; however, he is loose with the facts, letting his impressions of people and political bias color his conclusions.

[@jaelsonnen5750]

A great shill for the right

[@ConanTheContrarian1]

VDH misses it on Sherman. Much, if not most of the war fever in the South had to do with paying tariffs only to see the money get spent up north. Also, with a history of mental issues, is anyone all this sure about his reasonings? As to the relative superiority of Midwestern soldiers vs. Southern, if only 3% of Southerners were slave owners, are we to believe that 97% of them were indolent leeches, or do we suspect that large advantages in materiel and troop strength had something to do with it?

[@valstekel]

ConanTheContrarian1 slavery was the issue stupid, not tarrifs

[@sizemorej]

Lincoln wad an abolishinist that won the presidency. The succeeded before the he took office.

[@JRobbySh]

The midwesterners were also better than the north easterners.

[@rogerhoke9725]

His mental issues were related to depression and anxiety disorders. It's not like he was schizophrenic or something like that.

[@edsteadham4085]

I'm sure the fact that slavery was mentioned right near the top of South Carolinas Articles of Succession was a throwaway line.

[@nickhambly8610]

Kurtis le May? That man was a butcher. Total disregard of human life/spirit/ideals. The real question is who puts people like that in charge..

[@nickhambly8610]

Mike Schnobrich . No history shows that the race to brutality leads to a more brutal circle of violence. In the case of ww2 the aim of the allies according to churchill was break the german spirit.....but there is strong evidence to suggest this just unleashed german organised drug cartels to ruin america because of its bombing policy of ww2.

[@brachio1000]

Nick Hambly: History shows no such thing. "Race to brutality" and "circle of violence" are buzz phrases you likely picked up from some college course, and the comment about German drug cartels is silly.

[@StereoSpace]

Curtis LeMay helped break the back of the Japanese Empire. Japan killed SEVEN TIMES more people in WWII than they lost. All of Asia and the South Pacific - which had suffered terribly under the Japanese - would have spent generations under their brutal boot without people like LeMay, who took the war to them without reservation. Generations of Asians and Pacific Islanders grew up in relative peace, freedom and prosperity because of LeMay. It's always interesting to see the Japanese playing the victim on the anniversary of Hiroshima.

[@StereoSpace]

BTW, if you want to talk about butchers, look to your leader at that time Josef Stalin. How many Russians did he kill outright, was it 20 million? How many were tortured, imprisoned put into slave labor camps and simultaneous starved, another 5-10 million? Stalin killed as many Russians all by himself as the Germans killed. That's a butcher. That's not even touching on the starvation he imposed on the Ukraine for political reasons.

[@nickhambly8610]

brachio1000 andrei furzov....look that historian up if you are interested in learning......no im not russian im a kiwi with post graduate work in history sociology and political science.