Jack the Ripper - Crime Monthly - ITV - 1990 - Documentary

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Here's Jack the Ripper a Crime Monthly Special ITV circa 1990 introduced by Paul Ross. The Programme comes to the same conclusion as the recent book by Russell Edwards (Published 2014) about the likely candidate who carried out the 5 Ripper crimes as a Polish immigrant called Aaron Kosminski. described as "a Polish Jew & resident of Whitechapel, insane owing to many years indulgence in solitary vices. He had a great hatred of women, specially of the prostitute class, & had strong homicidal tendencies; he was removed to a lunatic asylum about March 1889. There were many circumstances connected with this man which made him a strong suspect." Inspector Swanson added that Kosminski "was sent to Stepney Workhouse and then to Colney Hatch and died shortly afterwards." Philip Sugden chased down Kosminski's records and found a lot of discrepancies between police statements and the hospital records. According to Sugden, "Kosminski was not committed to Colney Hatch in 1889 but in 1891. And far from dying shortly afterwards, he lived for another 28 years.
Dr. Houchin, when he certified Kosminski's insanity, described his behavior: " He declares that he is guided & his movements controlled by an instinct that informs his mind; he says that he knows the movements of all mankind; he refuses food from others because he is told to do so and eats out of the gutter for the same reason." A man named Jacob Cohen claimed that Kosminski took a knife and threatened his sister's life.
However, Maurice Whitfield, Relieving Officer for the Western District of Mile End Old Town, who prepared papers for the doctors at Colney Hatch, described Kosminski as not dangerous to others or suicidal.
Crime Monthly was a Monthly series investigating the inside stories behind solved and unsolved crimes it ran on ITV London from 1989 until 1996.
Jack the Ripper is the best known name given to an unidentified serial killer active in the largely impoverished areas in and around the Whitechapel district of London in 1888. The name originated in a letter written by someone claiming to be the murderer that was widely disseminated in the media. The letter is widely believed to have been a hoax, and may have been written by a journalist in a deliberate attempt to heighten interest in the story. Within the crime case files as well as journalistic accounts the killer was known as "the Whitechapel Murderer" as well as "Leather Apron".
Attacks ascribed to the Ripper typically involved female prostitutes who lived and worked in the slums of London and whose throats were cut prior to abdominal mutilations. The removal of internal organs from at least three of the victims led to proposals that their killer possessed anatomical or surgical knowledge. Rumours that the murders were connected intensified in September and October 1888, and letters from a writer or writers purporting to be the murderer were received by media outlets and Scotland Yard. The "From Hell" letter, received by George Lusk of the Whitechapel Vigilance Committee, included half of a preserved human kidney, supposedly from one of the victims. Mainly because of the extraordinarily brutal character of the murders, and because of media treatment of the events, the public came increasingly to believe in a single serial killer known as "Jack the Ripper".
Extensive newspaper coverage bestowed widespread and enduring international notoriety on the Ripper, and his legend solidified. An investigation into a series of eleven brutal killings in Whitechapel up to 1891 was unable to connect all the killings conclusively to the murders of 1888. Five victims: Mary Ann Nichols, Annie Chapman, Elizabeth Stride, Catherine Eddowes and Mary Jane Kelly, all murdered between 31 August and 9 November 1888, are known as the "canonical five" and their murders are often considered the most likely to be linked. As the murders were never solved, the legends surrounding them became a combination of genuine historical research, folklore, and pseudohistory. The term "ripperology" was coined to describe the study and analysis of the Ripper cases. There are now over one hundred theories about the Ripper's identity, and the murders have inspired multiple works of fiction.

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@seraphinaaizen6278
@seraphinaaizen6278 4 жыл бұрын
The intro might just be the most 90s thing I've ever seen.
@herbert9241
@herbert9241 4 жыл бұрын
Ha ha ha! Yes - that, and Paul Ross' blousey shirt / tie ensemble. Right on the cusp of '80s / 90s, consistent with the 1990 broadcast date. I see it as more of a sore-headed '80s hangover production, before the '90s got its act together and started going to the gym. Even the audio is suitably dodgy. I had to do a double-take on that intro because of the bleach-haired character in the white-sleeved baseball jacket swigging a tin outside a lingerie shop. The hair and jacket combination is very much a copy of my style at the early '80s ('82/3/4) avant garde. Although I wouldn't have been swigging a tin in the street. So definitely not me but a reasonable-ish cover version.
@karljunge
@karljunge 4 жыл бұрын
yea 1880-1890s. 🙂
@MsZoedog66
@MsZoedog66 3 жыл бұрын
@@herbert9241 Deffo an 80's variety of nineties here
@elguapo42
@elguapo42 3 жыл бұрын
@@MsZoedog66 yea its def more 80s vibes than 90s
@bendover9663
@bendover9663 3 жыл бұрын
Yep that late 80s crossing over to early 90s vibe i remember so well....
@PerryCJamesUK
@PerryCJamesUK 3 жыл бұрын
R.I.P. Martin Fido. A great investigator and a brilliant story teller.
@ianm2170
@ianm2170 4 жыл бұрын
This is by far the best documentary on the case; no sensationalism, no nonsense. The fact that the later DNA "evidence" supports the conclusion is not definitive, but it is persuasive. An exceptional documentary that includes many reputable sources.
@Embracing01
@Embracing01 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think so. Stephen Knight's investigation into the murders was the closest, but this documentary/investigation won't go there, mainly because it points the finger at the Royal family and their freemasonic connections.
@TheIndependentLens
@TheIndependentLens 4 жыл бұрын
I wish I could send a message to 1990 to tell them it’s 2020 & we still don’t know who Jack the Ripper was.
@leogarcia1761
@leogarcia1761 4 жыл бұрын
Charles Lechmere
@v8cool231
@v8cool231 3 жыл бұрын
A Polish Jew apparently called Aaron Cosminski .
@helentelehowski679
@helentelehowski679 3 жыл бұрын
We will never know hopefully.
@TiaMargarita
@TiaMargarita 3 жыл бұрын
@@leogarcia1761 absolutely. Charles lechmere aka Charles Cross
@MsZoedog66
@MsZoedog66 3 жыл бұрын
I wish they sent someone back with modern cameras, a few battery packs/generators, DNA testing technology and a fingerprint kit. I wanna know!
@Jo-pr7bg
@Jo-pr7bg 2 жыл бұрын
Coming to this documentary late and after many years, I have to say I could not help but chuckle as the narrator said matter of factually that a man thought it was his wife laying on the floor drunk, and so he left her to sleep it off. Nice Husband. Very Charming.
@brianbommarito3376
@brianbommarito3376 3 жыл бұрын
I think Kosminski was not the Ripper, but was mistakenly identified by one of the witnesses. I think the police at the time were mistaken in their belief that Kosminski was the killer, but because the witness refused to testify, the best they could do was see that Kosminski’s family was contacted and he was ultimately institutionalized. When a fellow patient of Colney Hatch called David Cohen died a year later, the police were informed that Kosminski had died, which wasn’t so. Kosminski lived for another thirty years. I think the Polish Jew angle was an absolute red herring, as much a red herring as the idea that the killer had medical skill. More likely, the killer was either a butcher or someone familiar with the slaughterhouses in the area and was a local man who had worked in the area almost his entire life and knew it like the back of his hand. He probably knew it so well that he knew where the prostitutes were taking him before they had even arrived there. He knew the police beats and how to escape detection. And if he was caught by a civilian and couldn’t escape, he would just cover his victim as best he could and come up with a likely story about finding a body.
@jonathanturbide2232
@jonathanturbide2232 6 жыл бұрын
I have seen hundreds of true crime documentaries in my 32 years of life, and this one is among the best I have ever seen. Serious and very scary without falling into cheap sensationalism. Excellent. 👍✌
@alec7568
@alec7568 5 жыл бұрын
I know right, it seems like every other ripper documentary is just a documentary about polly nichols' "jolly new bonnet."
@deborahlangnese7645
@deborahlangnese7645 3 жыл бұрын
Just cause he suspected him. Kozminsky doesn't mean he was guilty.
@brianbommarito3376
@brianbommarito3376 3 жыл бұрын
9:13 I didn’t recognize him at first, but that’s Hugh Fraser, who played Captain Arthur Hastings on the long-running TV series “Poirot.” Good lord!
@willmfrank
@willmfrank 3 жыл бұрын
He was also one of two actors who played the Duke of Wellington in "Sharpe."
@rockys201
@rockys201 10 жыл бұрын
I hadn't seen this one before, glad to have found it!
@robertboyle2573
@robertboyle2573 3 жыл бұрын
I agree that Kosminski is the number 1 suspect for the killings, but the main problem I have with this is he seems to have been too unhinged to have killed five people and then escaped.
@MarkHewitt
@MarkHewitt 3 жыл бұрын
Plus the statement of Israel Schwartz relating to the murder of Liz Stride.
@plasticweapon
@plasticweapon 3 жыл бұрын
kosminski with his discredited shawl DNA?!
@stevenremmington
@stevenremmington 4 жыл бұрын
Any person used to working in an abattoir would use precisely the same methods to kill and gut animals quickly and quietly. They would repeat the process constantly day after day. Speed and efficiency would be a requirement of the job. You could say with practice they could do it blindfolded.
@jamesbyrne9312
@jamesbyrne9312 3 жыл бұрын
A young Paul Ross
@LindaTCornwall
@LindaTCornwall 10 жыл бұрын
I keep waiting for him to say "Your call is important, if you know anything please call crime stoppers" and "Good night, don't have nightmares" lol... is it just me or does this have a crime stoppers feel to it? :D
@burnleyfan11965
@burnleyfan11965 7 жыл бұрын
Actually it was similar to Crimewatch in that sometimes they did shows appealing for information etc.Used to watch it when i lived down in London
@TokyoJoe703
@TokyoJoe703 5 жыл бұрын
Or on Police 5 when Shaw Taylor said "Keep 'em peeled" - Cop shows should always have a good catchprase
@davehallett3128
@davehallett3128 4 жыл бұрын
@@burnleyfan11965 usually the box of toys wanna know if you remember anything about march 6th. 11 years ago. That wouldn t be too hard for johnnie cochran to tear apart. His memory s shit. You must acquit
@jacquelinedeigan3913
@jacquelinedeigan3913 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you enjoyed this
@gocanuckurself1
@gocanuckurself1 10 жыл бұрын
A new one for me. Thanks. :)
@tanyet
@tanyet 10 жыл бұрын
Fantastic post! thanks.
@deborahlangnese7645
@deborahlangnese7645 4 жыл бұрын
Could jack the ripper of been a long shoreman that worked on the docks and fileted fish. That could be where he learned his knife skills
@theobjectivethinker64
@theobjectivethinker64 4 жыл бұрын
They were called rippers an actual trade name.
@Manawald
@Manawald 4 жыл бұрын
@@theobjectivethinker64 "Don't mind me giving the trade name"....
@heathergustar638
@heathergustar638 3 жыл бұрын
Look up Carl feigenbaum 1840--1896 executed by electric chair in sing sing named after the sintsink indians of the area
@Chris-nf3sg
@Chris-nf3sg 2 жыл бұрын
What's Jonathan Ross's brother doing presenting the crime show? Weird to hear him, knowing who he is.
@TheChugg11
@TheChugg11 8 жыл бұрын
I thought the first finder of Polly Nichols was Charles Lechemere
@TheChugg11
@TheChugg11 8 жыл бұрын
...or Charles Cross
@MegaWolfgang
@MegaWolfgang 8 жыл бұрын
It always bothered me that he lied to the PC that another PC was at the scene and wanted help? Yet there is no mention of him in any of the other killings other than he lived in the area. Which can be also said of thousands of others???
@susansimpson2181
@susansimpson2181 8 жыл бұрын
Susie Chugg, Charles Lechemere was Charles Cross...that's the lie he told police (the first one)
@cocochocs3126
@cocochocs3126 5 жыл бұрын
Pockets MacCartney the coroners at the time know best The canonical 5 were definitely all killed by one hand Why do people doubt this now The police also knew it So many ridiculous theories flying about now
@alec7568
@alec7568 5 жыл бұрын
@@MegaWolfgang there's a really cool documentary that considers cross/letchmere as the ripper. It makes some very convincing points.
@JayKhwaja
@JayKhwaja 2 жыл бұрын
Why did they have to take down that classic Crime Monthly episode that was on KZbin a while ago, SMH 😢
@tp1026
@tp1026 10 жыл бұрын
I loved this show. The best theme tune to a crime appeals programme. So haunting.
@82bingbong
@82bingbong 5 жыл бұрын
Great upload thanks for sharing!
@ptbaines
@ptbaines 5 жыл бұрын
there was absolutely public benefit for revealing the real killer, but keeping him a secret, had many monetary benefits for a handful of people.
@charlierumoldboi3939
@charlierumoldboi3939 4 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed this when I first saw it back in the 90's. But like all Ripper documentaries there is not a shred of evidence to suggest their suspect, in this case Kosminski, was the ripper. Even the police at the time could find nothing to connect him to the crimes. He is actually the least likely of all the suspects to be the ripper.
@helentelehowski679
@helentelehowski679 3 жыл бұрын
I think it was the Queen's grandson. The royal family had the means to hush things up.
@helioselexandros
@helioselexandros 3 жыл бұрын
There was evidence at the time. The three people most familiar with the case and evidence all had him as their suspect.
@plasticweapon
@plasticweapon 3 жыл бұрын
@@helentelehowski679 so you think it was the only suspect less likely than kosminski?
@davehallett3128
@davehallett3128 5 жыл бұрын
At 37 15 you say liz stride had cashew nuts in her hand. Wrong. She had what were called. cachous. These were breath freshening lozenges
@henochparks
@henochparks 4 жыл бұрын
Hookers use mints, candies, gum etc to hide their bad breath from bad teeth. Similar is done by hookers in Asian countries today where the local food makes the girls breath smell funky.
@jurassicpork
@jurassicpork 10 жыл бұрын
It wasn't Philip Sugden but Martin Fido who found Kosminski's hospital records.
@davehallett3128
@davehallett3128 5 жыл бұрын
At 28 15 they say martin fido first found the records
@deborahlangnese7645
@deborahlangnese7645 3 жыл бұрын
They didn't investigate things very well. If Jack had been a doctor wouldn't his colleagues have told on him? It sounds more like he might of been a butcher or a fish filter. The way he had cut them all up.
@deborahlangnese7645
@deborahlangnese7645 3 жыл бұрын
So many people so many suspects. It could be just about anybody.
@davehallett3128
@davehallett3128 5 жыл бұрын
At 35 55 you say the berner street murder happened two weeks after the last killing which was annie chapman on sept 8th. Wrong. The double event was on sept 30th which is 22 days later or three weeks
@robertalpy9422
@robertalpy9422 4 жыл бұрын
Guy loves mentioning himself and his rank as chief of the cid. He mentioned it and himself in relation to it 3 times in less than 15 mins.
@Maxbps88
@Maxbps88 3 жыл бұрын
After watching and reading many JTR shows and books, this seems viable; yet, the deerstalker hat just does not seem to fit Kosminski. And if it was called a deerstalker back then, that would strongly suggest an above average intelligence and a cat-n-mouse chess player that was keenly aware of irony.
@brianbommarito3376
@brianbommarito3376 3 жыл бұрын
And if the evidence of one Jacob Cohen is true, then Kosminski was not a violent man as he’s been painted to be by theorists and the police. There are some extensive records of Aaron Kosminski at Colney Hatch asylum right up until his death in 1919. The most violent he ever got was throwing a chair at an orderly who had probably come to get him do one of his two least favorite activities: eat and bathe. He was a paranoid schizophrenic who didn’t trust any food that was offered him and he was apparently terrified of water. But according to one of the policemen (I forget which one, sorry), they had found a spot where the killer washed his hands of blood. But if it were the Ripper’s work, it could not be Aaron Kosminski because he couldn’t wash without help. When you know the way the mind works, you know there are some irrational fears that most people just won’t submit themselves to voluntarily, and washing was apparently one of Kosminski’s fears.
@davesmith7432
@davesmith7432 6 жыл бұрын
It didn’t make sense. They’re shoehorning this poor disturbed man into the killer.
@jelenav3336
@jelenav3336 6 жыл бұрын
Who honestly?
@davehallett3128
@davehallett3128 4 жыл бұрын
If you re talking about aaron kosminski. It makes perfect sense. Google him. Watch three or four docs about the murders. If anyone knows his quality of english or his height and weight i d love to know too. Almost certainly he was bone thin as he refused to take food from others and reg ate out of the gutter which would promote reg vomiting illness and weght loss. As a known loonie tune he d be a regular face known to the women as harmless. They d know him from before the killings and after. Not even worth robbing Street people would know him too and if he just wandered around aimlessly DOING RECON witnesses wouldn t even remember if he was in the vicinity or not. they d just think. He s some imbecile who is gonna die soon. The last guy you would suspect. Perfect disguise
@plasticweapon
@plasticweapon 3 жыл бұрын
@@davehallett3128 yeah, like he said...shoehorning. or railroading would be a better word. "i want it to be kosminski, therefore it must be kosminski".
@laurataylor5012
@laurataylor5012 10 жыл бұрын
thank you
@terrythornton39
@terrythornton39 3 жыл бұрын
Ok is anyone else disturbed by that story of the woman who used that knife to carve I’m guessing turkeys and other food and used it in her garden even though she knew where the knife allegedly came from and what it was allegedly used for? What a heartless b*tch
@robertzerafa4806
@robertzerafa4806 3 жыл бұрын
I always thought it might of been sir Arthur Conan Doyle because Jack the ripper was dressed up so much like sherlock Holmes, right up to the deer storker hat!
@laurataylor8179
@laurataylor8179 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you, love it, great documentary.
@JOOLZBRUTNELL
@JOOLZBRUTNELL 4 жыл бұрын
49.35 says Kosminski was seen attacking Liz Stride ! Really ?
@rolandrothwell4840
@rolandrothwell4840 4 жыл бұрын
I have to say from all I've read on the subject I strongly believe the ripper was the work of two men working together. One kept a look out while the other did the evisceration. An eye witness said one man was 25 years old and shabby genteel and very tall. The other was thick set short and around 40 years.
@gabrielszarose5640
@gabrielszarose5640 4 жыл бұрын
I agree, with that said, there was motive that was familiar, amongst the group of women, that initiated the same fates, almost like a hit list, which could involve an organization minset.
@helentelehowski679
@helentelehowski679 3 жыл бұрын
I never thought of there being 2 men involved. That would make sense. Then again London was dark and misty at that time in history.
@mrdarren1045
@mrdarren1045 2 жыл бұрын
No the woman who said he looked shabby genteel was only witness to seeing one suspect and that was with annie chapman. It was Israel Schwartz who saw the two suspects around the time of the liz stride murder. Also the woman who described him as shabby genteel put his age around 40... not 25. You are getting your witnesses mixed up
@bonniescott6470
@bonniescott6470 3 жыл бұрын
I believe the killer was Charles cross the man who says he found the first body 🤔
@vanvliet1600
@vanvliet1600 6 жыл бұрын
It is trye that all these documemtires on Jakc the Ripper somethimes give different information. However, I do find the Kosminski's evidence compelling. But there is one seeming flaw in it about the time of the murders. Nice to watch though, great t be taken back to the period. (This is the one element the Jack the Ripper documentries have over the ones of recent serial killers, it takes you back in time.
@theobjectivethinker64
@theobjectivethinker64 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe another man of Jewish faith, Hyams, Jacob Levy, David Cohen
@MarkHewitt
@MarkHewitt 3 жыл бұрын
The flaw in the Kosminski theory is the second man seen by Israel Schwartz when Schwartz witnessed the attack on Liz Stride.
@leedonaldson8914
@leedonaldson8914 6 жыл бұрын
I strongly feel that "Jack" was a group of 3 or 4 men working together.
@cocochocs3126
@cocochocs3126 5 жыл бұрын
Lee Donaldson they would have grassed each other up I think
@winniedog2510
@winniedog2510 4 жыл бұрын
@@cocochocs3126 masons don't grass on one another
@MarkHewitt
@MarkHewitt 3 жыл бұрын
The witness statement of Israel Schwartz seems to confirm this.
@plasticweapon
@plasticweapon 3 жыл бұрын
@@MarkHewitt fuck israel schwartz. why do you keep talking like israel scwartz is the final authority on jack the ripper?
@MsZoedog66
@MsZoedog66 5 жыл бұрын
The interview in the synagogue with Allan Palmer is very interesting. The fear of the local Jewish community regarding avoidance of a mini-pogrom puts a whole other spin on it. Was impressed with the Brighton angle also. Good work!
@kalistalev
@kalistalev 7 жыл бұрын
I would like to see the geographical, psycholocial/criminal profilers give another assessment based on new evidence, its robustness looked at and the weight given to certain factors. i.e intelligence, status etc. I am not as convinced as many regarding Lechmere. However the evidence concerning him is very interesting.
@videocurios
@videocurios 7 жыл бұрын
I did it,but they will never catch me ha ha
@3122tan
@3122tan 7 жыл бұрын
kalistalev for me several things bother me about the whole Lechmere/Cross accusations. 1. Christer Holmgren has little credibility. His documentary was filled with holes and leaps of logic and frankly misleading the detective who is not given the full story before being asked to consider Cross the suspect. He also makes wild claims and accusations online which hardly adds to his believability. The truth is that the responsible thorough and fact based experts like Rumbelow are correct in being unable to make definite claims on the murderer and acknowledge the truth that we will most likely never know because no physical evidence from the crimes has survived. Those that claim to name the murderer are just out for fame and attention and money. 2. The way of linking Cross to the subsequent murders is ridiculous, where we are asked to believe that because Cross walked to work and COULD have conceivably walked past the murder site by altering his route AND his shift start at his employer. 3. It has been pretty well established the Ripper was likely a man murdering on his nights off, the crimes all centering around public holidays and weekends. But we are asked to throw that out the window and believe that the murderer actually waited to kill on his times off, but rather at the very END of his time off right before he had to appear for work, clean himself up and destroy evidence and arrive at work in time. What strange behaviour to say the least. Killing when you have limited time and are expected at work is silly to say the least. 3. Broken families, frequent moving residences, experience in butchery, intimate knowledge of the Whitechapel area were characteristics shared by literally tens of thousands of East Enders at the time. The only difference being that Cross was a known character and involved in the saga already, and could be named and shamed by Holmgren. He saw Cross/Lechmere, and big dollar signs and fame awaiting him if he made a shabbily researched claim against a real person who couldn't fight back. 4. The case against Cross/Lechmere is a classic logical and investigative error, in that the case against Cross was begun with Cross himself and building the case against him by gathering any evidence that could point in his general direction and conveniently ignoring any evidence that DOESN'T point in Cross' direction. Instead of looking at all the evidence and moving forward from there, our Swedish journalist instead committed a cardinal detective sin. 5. Aside from the timings making so sense as I've mentioned, the modus operandi is another factor to be considered. The case against Cross being confidently pinned on him by strict timing which Holmgren decides means Nichols must have been attacked in the time that Cross was with her. This assumes that Cross came across Polly in Buck's Row, solicited her and quickly killed and mutilated her on the deserted but beginning-to-stir street, then when the other carman came along, he quickly pretended to have come across her just then and managed to avoid any suspicion from the other man, who somehow manages to miss that the man he is talking and walking with had just mutilated a woman mere moments before. Cross certainly was a man with composure! But my problem with the modus operandi is as follows: Buck's Row was a quiet back street with murky lighting, a place where prostitutes BROUGHT their clients once they had come to an agreement regarding sex and payment. Solicitation occurred elsewhere, most likely on Whitechapel Road, where Polly was seen by a friend soliciting earlier in the night. To solicit she needed many men to advertise to, most definitely not what she would get in Buck's Row. No, it is almost CERTAIN that the Ripper came across Polly in Whitechapel Road or a public house and they went to Buck's Row together. Holmgren seems to not even consider this, which makes any scholar of the crimes question his knowledge level. These points just off the top of my head regarding Cross. It irks me that so many terrible researchers make easy money by selling books that make ludicrous sensational claims that,simply cannot be backed up. Not only are these lies easily sold and Ripper based fame achieved, but real life people have their memories smeared, all in the name of making a quick buck.
@kalistalev
@kalistalev 7 жыл бұрын
Yes you touch on a few of the issues I have. I was less than convinced by the timings. The QC seemed to see the info as quite compelling tho under scrutiny, like yourself, I am wary how convincing the evidence would be.
@3122tan
@3122tan 7 жыл бұрын
kalistalev the problem is that people analysing it today, like the decorated detective in the documentary and the QC you refer to, lack the background Ripperologists have on the crimes. The QC and the detective can only go on what they've been told by biased parties seeking to push Cross/Lechmere as Jack. Holmgren withheld important information from the detective, like what Polly would have been doing all night and where, how she would pick up customers and the like. For those coming to the case from the 21st century and with no historical background filled in, they take it as gospel that Polly was in Buck's Row when Cross came along and feasibly killed her according to what they're told. Letting the modern experts know of such important details would likely or possibly alter their opinion
@kalistalev
@kalistalev 7 жыл бұрын
Yes that is what I was implying
@deborahlangnese7645
@deborahlangnese7645 3 жыл бұрын
They didn't really examine what had happened to these women
@jimmyjohnston8287
@jimmyjohnston8287 7 жыл бұрын
1 person in this is telling the truth. That is 1 more than other documentaries. It isn't that bad. Stick with it.
@MrUTuber001
@MrUTuber001 10 жыл бұрын
This documentary is full of holes....a man called Charles Cross found the 'first' victim in Buck's Row, he worked as a carman for Pickford's in Broad Street. The Copper was the third person to witness the deceased.....that being said the case against Aaron Kosminski is pretty definitive.
@MsZoedog66
@MsZoedog66 5 жыл бұрын
Most of the docos are - it happens when the crimes are 150 years old
@MarkHewitt
@MarkHewitt 3 жыл бұрын
The case against Kosminski is destroyed by the statement of Israel Schwartz.
@jimmyjohnston8287
@jimmyjohnston8287 7 жыл бұрын
(This is why they suddenly 'found' the Maybrick diary...)
@detectivesquirrel2621
@detectivesquirrel2621 3 жыл бұрын
This like many documentaries places too much focus on Kosminski who was NOT the killer. Check out my series of videos on "They Weren't JACK!" kzbin.info/aero/PLWaoDZcx_RfNLVMlEv0k7M0yFQcMlPsDQ
@fisterklister
@fisterklister 6 жыл бұрын
It could be the german sailor.......or Tumblety
@cocochocs3126
@cocochocs3126 5 жыл бұрын
fisterklister def not Tumblety
@plasticweapon
@plasticweapon 3 жыл бұрын
@@cocochocs3126 why def?
@deborahlangnese7645
@deborahlangnese7645 3 жыл бұрын
Did kozminskys sister think that he was Jack the ripper?
@brianbommarito3376
@brianbommarito3376 3 жыл бұрын
The killer, if he was Jewish, could not have been a well-practicing one, because Annie Chapman died on a Saturday which from sunset Friday to sunset Saturday is the Jewish Sabbath. I remember one documentary mentioning that Annie Chapman was also the only Ripper victim who was killed when the sun was starting to rise. All the other victims were killed during the dark of night. One could argue it’s circumstantial, but I think little details like these give us a glimpse into the mind of the killer. Understand by examining the known evidence how a particular killer might think, what he can and can’t do, and it paints a picture of the likely perpetrator. When you find the correct match, not only will all the evidence fit but also the assumptions of the killer’s psyche will fit like a glove on the hand. If you can’t find such a man, that means that you need to re-examine your understanding of this criminal’s mind, that you’ve made a mistake in your deductions somewhere. Or maybe that a piece of the evidence is not what it appears to be, but more likely it’s the theories and not the data. Of course, in 130 years the data can be almost unrecognizable. Pieces from multiple puzzles may be jumbled together, and you have to unravel the main puzzle as well as find a place for the side puzzles to be set aside for later in case you need to examine them again.
@MEME-qe4ze
@MEME-qe4ze 4 жыл бұрын
Jacko was a very bad boy
@shahlamajidi7719
@shahlamajidi7719 5 жыл бұрын
This kind of crims is not working off a mad man like Kesmonski. There was a work of Sadistic with sexual pleasure.
@bigkuriboh3814
@bigkuriboh3814 3 жыл бұрын
What about Nathan Kaminski?
@deborahlangnese7645
@deborahlangnese7645 4 жыл бұрын
Kozminsky was not jack the ripper
@Open_Space0718
@Open_Space0718 3 жыл бұрын
No one said he was, calm down
@dougstyles5091
@dougstyles5091 8 жыл бұрын
Jack definitely had issues
@gabrielszarose5640
@gabrielszarose5640 4 жыл бұрын
The method of being non detected ect. by the ripper spells intelligence, which should eliminate, any of the obvious, so called suspects, the reason for the attacks, could be the key, to unlock the true story, + identity, whith this info.the case could be solved, providing the valid clues, + putting togeather the actual facts, of why them in particular, + how they knew each other, may lead to the conclusion overlooked, or kept hidden.
@MarkHewitt
@MarkHewitt 3 жыл бұрын
How about work is done on Israel Schwartz's statement that he saw Liz Stride being attacked by one man while being watched by another.
@Maxbps88
@Maxbps88 3 жыл бұрын
Intelligent = Not necessarily. The Ripper's blatant disregard for where he was during his 4th murder shows a callous lack of intelligence or even caring at all where he was or who was around during that murder. And most of the others (all but the last) were in public or semi-public places where he could have been found or easily caught and shows complete lack of planning or forethought other than wanting to murder a woman.
@sonyaroseman4238
@sonyaroseman4238 4 жыл бұрын
well this is cack!
@absolutelydisgusted3319
@absolutelydisgusted3319 4 жыл бұрын
I have absolutely no idea what that means. Lol.
@MEME-qe4ze
@MEME-qe4ze 4 жыл бұрын
@@absolutelydisgusted3319 me either
@lukeallan8876
@lukeallan8876 3 жыл бұрын
So has the case been closed ,
@deborahlangnese7645
@deborahlangnese7645 3 жыл бұрын
Why did they release him? He died from gangrene of the leg? Yuck! Why would they release a psychotic murderer if he was Jack the ripper why didn't they watch him. He must have been a sick individual.
@robertzerafa4806
@robertzerafa4806 3 жыл бұрын
If they knew what we know now they wouldn't be so quick to insist that royalty is innocent
@mrdarren1045
@mrdarren1045 2 жыл бұрын
Quite so!
@derycktrahair8108
@derycktrahair8108 6 жыл бұрын
The best doco yet on this subject. Brian Worth (OBE, ex head of CID, ret 1987) is awkward front of camera, but despite his nervousness he has credibility. I go for Kosminski...or was it the American Tumblety?..who really knows? Every decent human wants to know what sort of bastard could do something like that. What do you reckon?
@SNP-1999
@SNP-1999 5 жыл бұрын
Would the women, desperate for money, have even entertained going with Kosminski - unwashed, with dirty clothing, eating food from gutters ? Nichols, Chapman and Eddowes possibly, maybe even Elizabeth Stride but young and attractive Mary Kelly ? I somehow have my doubts, but who really knows ?
@theobjectivethinker64
@theobjectivethinker64 4 жыл бұрын
Agree.
@herbert9241
@herbert9241 4 жыл бұрын
I would say Liz Stride is the least hideous of the 'before' portraits.
@Maxbps88
@Maxbps88 3 жыл бұрын
You answered your own question in your first sentence = "desperate for money". These women did not have the luxury of choosing their Johns.
@mfaisalbutt5907
@mfaisalbutt5907 6 жыл бұрын
Is their more series. Hope theirs more
@mfaisalbutt5907
@mfaisalbutt5907 6 жыл бұрын
Crime monthly series
@deborahlangnese7645
@deborahlangnese7645 3 жыл бұрын
Thats not true though cause there were other murders that were committed after the five women were killed there were others that were also slaughtered by Jack the ripper.
@deborahlangnese7645
@deborahlangnese7645 3 жыл бұрын
Just looking at women and not really determining how they were killed is really lazy on the doctors part.
@deborahlangnese7645
@deborahlangnese7645 3 жыл бұрын
What else would five men would be doing together with no women about. They evidently were not playing poker but poke he
@videocurios
@videocurios 10 жыл бұрын
@bendover9663
@bendover9663 3 жыл бұрын
What is it about the Ross brothers that makes them very annoying....
@JakeTheMuss10454
@JakeTheMuss10454 5 жыл бұрын
How could an average person get their hand on a surgeons knife? you can't do it today you couldn't do it then.
@videocurios
@videocurios 5 жыл бұрын
Online there are folk supplying every kind of knife these days how else do the perpetrators of the daily killings get zombie knives and the like,but in Victorian times the internet was even slower than 8t is now.
@JakeTheMuss10454
@JakeTheMuss10454 5 жыл бұрын
@@videocurios THE INTERNET DIDN'T EXISIT THEN, SURGEON KNIVES ARE VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO ACQUIRE TODAY WITHOUT PROPER LICENSING AND NOT BEING A RECOGNIZED SURGEON...CAN'T DOIT.
@davidaddams9802
@davidaddams9802 5 жыл бұрын
@@JakeTheMuss10454 I'd like to know where you live. Where I live it's certainly not difficult to purchase a scalpel. I've actually done it. (Granted that was quite some time ago) It was part of a dissection kit I picked up at a University book store when purchasing supplies needed for a Biology course I took in college. We has to do dissections as part of the lab work. I didn't even need to show a student ID to pick it up.
@theobjectivethinker64
@theobjectivethinker64 4 жыл бұрын
The knife talked about early in the programme is an amputation implement. So a soldier or mortician could acquire one.
@jsphillip60
@jsphillip60 4 жыл бұрын
@@JakeTheMuss10454 Chill, man. Where is your sense of humor?
@deborahlangnese7645
@deborahlangnese7645 3 жыл бұрын
Iam not one to judge. What ever tumblety wanted to be is his choice but why kill all those women when they were providing a service for men and not having another course of action for employment.
@Bigwave2003
@Bigwave2003 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent documentary about how police at the time solved the Jack the Ripper case with eyewitness testimony. Until better evidence (not "what if" speculation) exists for another suspect, I will go with what the top investigators at the time -- who knew the city, crimes and suspects first hand -- thought.
@DirtySanchez943
@DirtySanchez943 3 жыл бұрын
Kosminsky was way too messy to be a ripper but some other distinguished jewish gentleman...
@Maxbps88
@Maxbps88 3 жыл бұрын
Kosminsky was messy = and so were his crimes? Seems like a match.
@sugarplum1980
@sugarplum1980 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah blame the woman who never saw or heard anything for not catching the killer in the act when he was just 10 yards outside her window 🙄 it's all her fault. Get a grip.
@henochparks
@henochparks 4 жыл бұрын
Jackie hated his mother...
@plasticweapon
@plasticweapon 3 жыл бұрын
that's nice.
@carmelcollins2194
@carmelcollins2194 4 жыл бұрын
Had ... did ... if
@calicodnikonian2774
@calicodnikonian2774 5 жыл бұрын
Five killings attributed to "Jack" out of 11 killings that occurred at about the same time and no one thinks there MIGHT have been 2 or 3 killers... and the way the authorities dismiss Prince Albert, whose former mistress was one of the early victims along with her friends, also prostitutes, were silenced from revealing the birth of a child fathered by Prince Albert. It boggles the imagination how an early victim, Prince Albert's former mistress, gave birth to a little girl, and had to be smuggled out of England to France, to protect her from the Royal family's clutches. Curious that a lot of vita clues, information, reports and evidences have been kept from the public and official investigators; also curious that Prince Albert lost his sanity and most of his vision, like syphilis sufferers before antibiotics were discovered, and died in an asylum. The current Queen and Brit Gov't continue to keep said clues, information, reports and evidences from the public to "protect the integrity of 'innocent' suspects" and that no public benefit will result." Prince Albert did not personally have to kill anyone when his personal physician and coachman COULD have done his dirty work. This leads me to believe that a century plus old "secret" is meant to protect the "integrity" of the lecherous, vile Prince Albert AND the Royal family. HOW is it remotely possible for the bet minds of Scotland Yard and FBI, with the most expensive and technical modern laboratory equipment and computers solve any crime with missing data... clues, information, reports and evidence? Conspiracy Theory vs Collusion to protect the Royal family? It is possible that there were other killers, too... Kazminsky, Lechmere and other(s) still/forever unknown. When will the Royal family and the Brit Gov't ever reveal all the hidden documents, evidence, information, records and reports kept from the public and investigators for 130 years?
@cocochocs3126
@cocochocs3126 5 жыл бұрын
Calico D'Nikonian 🤣 you’ve no idea what you’re talking about
@Bigwave2003
@Bigwave2003 4 жыл бұрын
My friend, you have been misled. Everything you say comes from Stephen Knight's book "Jack the Ripper: The Final Solution." But the book was based on a lie told to Knight by Joseph Gorman who passed himself off as "Joseph Sickert" the illegitimate son of painter Walter Sickert. Gorman later admitted publically that he had made up the whole story and it was a hoax. None of the story stands up when checked against historical facts. Prince Albert Victor died in the 1892 influenza pandemic at the royal residence Sandringham House, not in an insane asylum. There's not a shred of evidence he knew a low-class East End prostitute or had a child with her. Dr. Gull would have been 70 years old at the time of the murders and just survived a stroke -- in no shape to go to on a killing spree. The police who actually investigated the crimes named the suspects and how the case was solved.
@MarkHewitt
@MarkHewitt 3 жыл бұрын
@@Bigwave2003 Yes, Joseph Gorman recanted his story after Knight named his father rather than Sir Robert Anderson as the 'third man'.
@deborahlangnese7645
@deborahlangnese7645 3 жыл бұрын
Why don't they do dna tests on any evidence that they might have. Did they ever find the weapon or weapons Jack used? Can they do modern autopsies on the women's bodies? Or would they be all bones? There must be something he left behind that will identify him.
@mrdarren1045
@mrdarren1045 2 жыл бұрын
No. They dont have any physical evidence at all.
@mrdarren1045
@mrdarren1045 2 жыл бұрын
And there is no way they will ever dig up graves to find out who might have killed them when that person is certain to be long dead. No way would they disturb graves just to satisfy curiosity
@fistefis
@fistefis 2 жыл бұрын
racial conflict........good moooooorning,sir...and happy navilja.....you dunst
@motorizedmisfit-artist8535
@motorizedmisfit-artist8535 4 жыл бұрын
💀
@shahlamajidi7719
@shahlamajidi7719 5 жыл бұрын
Charles Allen Crose was Jack the Ripper ends of the story
@mrdarren1045
@mrdarren1045 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah definitive. He found a body he must be guilty lol. What nonsense.
@shanegrant8441
@shanegrant8441 4 жыл бұрын
He left her to sleep it off it was queen Victoria doctor
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