Thanks for the hard work you've put in here. It's the best review of the bike I've seen.
@mancavemoto2 жыл бұрын
Cheers Joe, much appreciated
@RRRRefuelRideRace2 жыл бұрын
I like it also. Great work here. Overall he covered every single aspect. :) Can check my content.
@marcusgeorge18252 жыл бұрын
Hi Tony, a great, honest and humble review. Thank you. 👍😎🇦🇺
@mancavemoto2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Marcus 👍
@dazzer42202 жыл бұрын
Nice review Tony. I just wish Honda would bring out another shaft drive bike. Since the vfr1200 / cross tourer they haven't brought one out....as you say its more practical for touring. Personally at nearly £13k I would look at a used BMW / Triumph which come with all the extras and 2yrs warranty.....and no chain 😎. Ride safe and keep up the great videos.
@mancavemoto2 жыл бұрын
Cheers Darren
@marksimpson52182 жыл бұрын
I went from a shaft drive to a chain, and it’s no big deal really. On tour I carry a can of chain lube and some rubber gloves & oil it every 500 mile approx. It takes all of 5 mins and you are back on the road, no problem. The bike has now done 16000 miles and I have only adjusted the chain twice at home.
@kannermw2 жыл бұрын
@@marksimpson5218 The chain lubing is not the problem. It is cleaning the fling from the chain that is constant pia unless you don't care what your bike looks like. I use a PTFE based lube and I never need to clean chain except wipe side plates off. A good lube will protect the seals and outside of rollers by lubricating them and capturing fine debris that will in turn be flung off. Give me a minimal maintenance-free shaft drive that doesn't make mess or require costly replacement of chain plus sprockets at 20K-30K miles
@ToeTag19682 жыл бұрын
@@marksimpson5218 True, especially with the center stand on this bike. Super simple.
@jimporter2 жыл бұрын
Give them a couple of years and that engine will probably appear as a Pan-European replacement to fill the gap between NT1100 and Goldwing.
@sboy19552 жыл бұрын
Sweet bike! But yea, can’t mess with a chain for distance riding. A belt would’ve been a better low cost option for Big Red..
@VRFlightSimGuy2 жыл бұрын
Great review thankyou. As an FJR man I've been tempted by this, even though this has less power, until I realise I'd be lacking an electronic adjustable windshield, suspension, shaft drive. Pity.
@mancavemoto2 жыл бұрын
Agree
@RRRRefuelRideRace2 жыл бұрын
In just a few words... great work here. You nailed it. This video should get more views. Keep going. p.s. It would be nice to have more color option for this bike, or at least lively ones. :)
@mancavemoto2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that, much appreciated
@RRRRefuelRideRace2 жыл бұрын
@@mancavemoto Anytime. :)
@rocketrollsvlogs7625 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you pointed out the fact the bike goes before the screen boots up. I have an Africa Twin, and honestly, I typically start my bike while I'm still fiddling with my gloves and/or other stuff, and I've never been ready to pull off by the time it boots up. But even when i have everything ready to go, you don't have to wait for the screen, which is exactly what happens when you don't have a screen on your bike. The screen also has different setting, and you can set it to very simple (non-confusing) set-ups. I love the electronics on my Africa Twin. I admit, that it took me two weeks to get comfortable, and two months for it to become second nature, but hey, i've had her for two years now. If my next bike is an NT1100, it will be because i want the screen.
@gavd67262 жыл бұрын
Nice review pal. Love the jacket! 👌🏼🔥
@mancavemoto2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 👍
@riderramblings2 жыл бұрын
That's the old Deauville screen system which must be at least 14 years old. I'm sure they could have come up with a better system or even electrically adjustable like the Pan...
@mancavemoto2 жыл бұрын
Yep, it’s a pretty poor effort and a shame too as the screen performs really well
@Alexanderpaal672 жыл бұрын
Like the windscreen on the Crosstourer from 2016 its brilliant.
@Grahamvfr2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic review Tony, very insightful. Can't believe we still have resistance (in comments) to auto gearboxes, given that most accepted things, are automated these days, and after all, a motorcycle by its very nature is an automatic bicycle.
@mancavemoto2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Graham, people seem to love DSG boxes in cars, but not so keen on them on bikes.
@kwakithailand Жыл бұрын
Use it, or lose it...
@ram64man2 жыл бұрын
as far as I'm concerned as a ST1300ABS owner since launch, honda have messed up badly by making this chain drive, non adjustable height seat, lack of electric adjustable screen and sadly smaller panners , and to make matters worse a poor headlight on dipped.
@1zanglang2 жыл бұрын
Since a mid range scooter, the Forza 350 has an electric actuated windscreen, I wonder what the dudes at Honda were thinking when they didn't put it on a 13000 GBP motorcycle...
@stevesharkey33122 жыл бұрын
Orange running lights concern me - car drivers are inattentive enough that as you approach a junction with them on the left turning right, they see a left hand orange light, assume you’re turning and pull out. Screen could have been better but having had 2 RTs I find I have a favourite setting and never really adjust. Shaft/chain I used to be shaft stalwart but chains have dramatically improved. Panniers could do with being a little bigger (helmet sized), and once again Honda miss my money because there’s always big waiting lists.
@mancavemoto2 жыл бұрын
Yep its still a worry for me in the UK. I've not had any issues so far when riding Hondas, but I have noticed a few confused looks from drivers and pedestrians. Running lights are no problem, just make them white or yellow......not amber
@richedwards46512 жыл бұрын
Great balanced review as always 👍
@mancavemoto2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 👍
@edsyphan34252 жыл бұрын
Great job Tony, as usual. Can't wait till they make it to the States. I was excited about the Suzuki, but after reading some reviews, not so sure now. I haven't seen any mention on pricing?
@mancavemoto2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ed, price is show at around the three minute mark. £12,399 for manual and £1k more for the DCT
@edsyphan34252 жыл бұрын
@@mancavemoto I watched to the end looking for the price and somehow it slipped right by me. In my defense, I miss my fair share these days. Thanks again, keep smiling.
@МихаилГригорьевич-л3м2 жыл бұрын
Nice review! The question is: why they, Honda, NOT INSTALLED the shift drive?!
@straightup12342 жыл бұрын
To expensive to justify price point
@SouthwestBlue12 жыл бұрын
It would require redesigning the engine and therefore add to cost.
@siraff44612 жыл бұрын
Nice review and I think fair in the context of todays expectations. But they're calling this a tourer. Lets be honest it's a styling exercise on an Africa Twin. Even if you go back the best part of 20 years there were better tourers - the FJR, Pan Euro and R1200RT to name just a few. Electric screens, shaft drive and large fairings/luggage make a big difference when you want to use it as a tourer. Its a shame you didn't get to try it out in the rain to see how good/otherwise that fairing set up really is. I know from experience that on the R bike if you're over about 40mph you don't get wet at all - including boots. Its also got adjustable seat height, much larger luggage (and a top box) and I would wager the ride is far more plush after watching you get jolted on all the big bumps. I think this is a bit of a cynical marketing exercise to sell cheap-to-build bikes using Hondas' name. It used to be you built a bike to be the best you could make it at the job it was for. Now it seems you just make one bike and adjust the bolt-ons to sell more of them.
@FourIntoOne2 жыл бұрын
Literally having a rest in the middle of an extended road test on the manual with quickshifter version. Im really impressed actually - plenty fast and torque-y enough, sounds really good, very comfortable (im 6ft) and apart from the screen adjustment (which if you are like me once you have found the best position will never touch it again) I cant really think of anything negative to say about it. I am seriously tempted - and I was set on getting and Africa Twin but now i'm not so sure..... And just to confirm - the exposed wiring you pointed out IS exposed on my test bike as well lol
@FourIntoOne2 жыл бұрын
@@leecornwall8381 Not yet - 3 month waiting list for NT but the africa twin is in stock......so will probably get that instead - going to make final decision either way this coming Friday actually.
@motomark76712 жыл бұрын
It seems to be a nice bike with an array of extras, however as someone who enjoys touring distances, shaft drive is my preference, maybe the 1300 engine from the Pan European (shaft drive) would of been an option! But then this would take it away from the sports tourer label. Maybe Honda could reintroduce an updated Pan! Great review and a really nice bike though!
@expatbiker65982 жыл бұрын
If you prefer shaft drive due to reliability. Remember this is a Honda using an engine proven for reliability. This bike will outlive the best shaft driven motorcycle other than Honda goldwing
@Tiesemans_one_in_ten2 жыл бұрын
@@expatbiker6598 Honda V4 engines outlive anything and everything ... useless point to make ... Genuine ST?! NO chain ... Period!
@nikoscosmos2 жыл бұрын
The Amber running light thing has been adopted by BMW too and is causing similar consternation amongst owners. I think that having a distinctive drl colour is a good thing to stand out amongst the sea of white lights of cars. I have fitted separate yellow led lights but they switch off when any front indicator is blinking, thanks to ezcan.
@mancavemoto2 жыл бұрын
Yep, i've had yellow lights before including headlights, as I agree a different colour light makes people look twice, which is a good thing. But i'm not so keen on having an amber DRL built into to indicator. I fitted some Denali lights to an Africa Twin and the ezCAN is a brilliant piece of kit.
@MostlyInteresting2 жыл бұрын
Nice review... and I want one. Also I thought our back road here in US-VA were narrow!
@mancavemoto2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, yep we have some pretty narrow lanes. It’s one reason you don’t see that many American pick ups on uk roads 😂
@RegunusRemali2 жыл бұрын
Great review and thank you for for the videos. Would you consider the NT1100DCT to be an amateur rider friendly motorcycle? I come from riding mostly a Piaggio MP3 300. I have never tried driving something at this size but I think it's time for me to move up. Thanks again!
@mancavemoto2 жыл бұрын
Yes, absolutely, very easy to ride and a manageable size too
@hartley3832 жыл бұрын
Good review Tony. Ive owned two Crosstourers and loved the DCT box, brilliant bit of kit. I hoped that Honda would update the CT with some of the tech the Africa Twin had but alas they opted to build the NT which i see as a new Deauville. Leaves a huge gap in the range between the NT and the Goldwing.
@mancavemoto2 жыл бұрын
Cheers. Apparently there are more new bikes coming this year.
@Alexanderpaal672 жыл бұрын
Agree. The last superbike Honda made was the mighty Crosstourer. Since the re introduction of the AT in 2016 this V4 peach doomed to live in the shadow of the AT never to be updated again. What a loss.
@billoldreive36282 жыл бұрын
Great review 👌👍😁 keep them coming
@mancavemoto2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Will do!
@thetaleof2wheels.9472 жыл бұрын
The screen adjustment is straight from the CBF1000F MK2. NT stands for New Touring. The manual bike with quickshifter is good, as it also has auto blipper as well.
@marksimpson52182 жыл бұрын
That’s the route I would go,manual with QS.
@guthrie19602 жыл бұрын
I have one question. So if I were to load this bike up to cross the US how much added weight can the bike hold. Important for riding long distances two up, and when the second rider wants to bring everything...
@TheGreatestBeyonder2 жыл бұрын
Nice review Tony! Keep up the good work! 👍🏻
@mancavemoto2 жыл бұрын
Cheers Steve
@jimporter2 жыл бұрын
Think you will find they will do an Africa Twin on this and introduce an “adventure sport” or in this case “Deluxe” version which will have the bigger tank, IMU, electronic suspension and electric screen all for price stratification.
@mancavemoto2 жыл бұрын
Quite possibly Jim, it seems like a platform that they’ll be developing
@johnfitzsimons31982 жыл бұрын
Good honest review Tony, I like the bike in that colour, it’s terrible in white! Yes I think yourself and the other reviewers on YT should always consider a pillion passenger review…was no.1 on my list when choosing my sports tourer, that 100hp could be a little lacking when 2 up and fully loaded. Agree with you on the drl’s also😕. 👍☘️
@sunrisejak27092 жыл бұрын
The Honda XADV with DCT is an excellent touring platform. I've been on week long trips over 3000km and it was fantastic. The NT1100 however does look very appealing! 🙂
@mancavemoto2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@hudsonrilke2 жыл бұрын
Great review as always. This will suit a lot of riders
@mancavemoto2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@expatbiker65982 жыл бұрын
Honda have done it this time. A nice compromise for the people who would not go for the goldwing due to weight or cost. I'm personally more an African twin person/ tiger 900 rider at the moment.
@rivencsky2 жыл бұрын
It is sad to hear the side cases cannot hold a full-size helmet. You would think that would be a primary requirement for any side case design. Glad to see Honda add the DCT to more models but truly missed the mark with this oversight in my opinion.
@neilahop2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your review. I’m having a demo ride on this in a couple of weeks. I’m looking forward to it, I will be comparing it to the Africa Twin, I’d love to get a demo on the new Suzuki GSXR1000GT as well but they seem to be unavailable.
@mancavemoto2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. It feels similar to the AT, but at the same time different.
@paulsmyth4972 жыл бұрын
Nice one Tony as usual. As the guys below have said, great review.. Don’t think I’ll swap my Africa Twin, but this is a great value bike in comparison to the Adventure Sport. Incidentally mate, mine is a 2020 with DCT and electronic suspension and it did come with the cig lighter as standard. In my day, the joke was “As useful as an ashtray on a motorbike”, never mind a bloody electronic lighter. Who’da thunk it …. 😳🤣🤣🤣. I guess it was model specific on the AT then. Ride safe brother 👍
@mancavemoto2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't swap either! Yes, the 'standard' doesnt, thats what i should have clarified.
@pistolpete63212 жыл бұрын
Great review! Love your leather jacket!
@mancavemoto2 жыл бұрын
Cheers, it’s a Goldtop 72 Easy Rider, there’s a link in the description
@bigred84382 жыл бұрын
I think one of the great things about this model is the range of colours, and in my country the likely cost is absolutely unaffordable.
@marksmith8662 жыл бұрын
To be fair 12K (GBP) is very, very affordable for a new bike with this pedigree and specification - just look at the extras! The colours are poor though, choice of a basic black, white, or gunmetal grey. No red, no electric blue - a shame!
@gregs57382 жыл бұрын
Great review, Tony!!
@mancavemoto2 жыл бұрын
Cheers Greg
@williamkterrell2 жыл бұрын
Excellent review Thanks, no NT1100 in USA, what are they thinking?
@mancavemoto2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, and yep no idea
@JEmmertz2 жыл бұрын
I fully agree that you don't have to sit around and wait for the screen to do a full boot, but, still, it should be able to present information like speed, rpm's, which gear I'm in and the time of day, in mere seconds and still be able to continue on with the boot up in the background. I have a DSLR which I can power on and start shooting photos with within 0,1 seconds, and that does have a lot more data to take into account to get things right.
@mancavemoto2 жыл бұрын
The lower lcd has that information and switches on immediately the key is turned.
@kyrioskunder2 жыл бұрын
And that was a VERY GOOD Analysis ! Very detailed, but a lot of these "details" are VERY IMPORTANT ! Only you dared to say that the STYLING is CONSERVATIVE . I was waiting for A LOWER AFRIKA TWIN !!!! NOT FOR A BIGGER ADV 750 !!!!!!!! After so many years, this Tourer is the best now, but IT COULD BE BETTER !! Probably , IT WILL BE BETTER after 2-4 years + updates (f. ex. : corner ABS). I`m bought my 1. Honda XL 175cm³ in DEz.`79. Now I have Varadero XL 1000V 2002. I`m looking for my new bike since at least 2 years : only Japanese !! (maybe....CF Moto 800MT) 2 Cylinders, Alu Wheels, between 800-1000 cm³. I looked very much BMW asking the Germans in DEU ==> out of the list. Soooo...., NT 1100 was my one and only choice !!! Buuuut...., I agree 1000% with you. Greetings from Athens-GRE !
@mancavemoto2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kyrios, good luck and enjoy finding your new bike!
@peterlewis49782 жыл бұрын
Good review and a nice bike, but I couldn't see me swapping my Africa Twin Adventure Sport ( DCT) for this any time soon. The ATAS is a great touring bike, better luggage, electronic suspension, etc. I think Honda needed to make this a little more luxurious for a dedicated touring machine. Electronic windscreen, heated seats, to name but 2. Maybe a little further down the road an improved model will arrive.
@mancavemoto2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, and no I wouldnt blame you.
@bobwardley16062 жыл бұрын
Hi. Great video... cheers. When I get one the missus will definitely be on the back, so it’d be good to have some feedback regarding comfort for the pillion passenger if you know where I could get some?? Anyway, thanks for a great video. Cheers, Bob
@mancavemoto2 жыл бұрын
Cheers Bob, sadly I don't have a pillion I can take and quite often they are not insured on press bike insurance either.
@donaldsilvernail33382 жыл бұрын
Having the main parts of the review listed in minutes is a good idea. Taking the time to do that tells me something (good) about the reviewer. I'm interested in this bike as it seems like a good value but I'm concerned about the basically non-adjustable suspension. Yes, if they hit it just right then no worries, but suspension compliance is so subjective . Will the bike be comfortable on my broken roads? With no way to alter the suspension characteristics, it's going to be kind of a crap shoot if I can't get a test ride before buying.
@mancavemoto2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Donald, and yes that would be a concern. The roads around me aren’t great and it coped pretty well, but it could be a very different experience for someone else. I would rather spend a little more or buy used with a more sophisticated setup
@donaldsilvernail33382 жыл бұрын
@@mancavemoto Good advice I think! I'm on a 2021 Honda NC750X ABS right now and the suspension seems too taunt for it's own good on my crappy roads. OH, to have my Ducati Multistrada Sky-Hook suspension again! Right now I'm looking at a 2009 R1200RT with 38k miles for $6,500.
@landedzentry2 жыл бұрын
Great review - - - There's a comfort seat and it looks better in black
@mancavemoto2 жыл бұрын
Cheers
@JKL2462 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I’m trying to keep an open mind about these pavement-going ADVs as tourers, but I’m still not convinced. Probably because I’m relatively small and have long since abandoned large ADVs after one too many times of having to extract myself from a slippery situation. The one thing that would help to convince me, in addition to lower seat height, is power reverse. I rode a Ural for several years and even it had reverse haha. For now, my Norge remains the one to beat, with respect to sporty touring.
@anthonyakentiev49972 жыл бұрын
Thx! Great review! What can you say about the LED lights?
@UltimateDazzle2 жыл бұрын
Have to say I was underwhelmed by iras a tourer whereas the AT 1100 I liked a lot, wife said it was awful as a tourer, then again she’s comparing it to our Goldwing DCT Tour
@robsonenduro33162 жыл бұрын
I agree, stupid idea with these running indicators lights.
@thomassterns71202 жыл бұрын
Great review - thanks! Not sure if this has been covered but I live in a medium size metro area in US Northwest. There are 3 Honda dealers in a 12 mile radius. None have any idea when/if this bike will be available and have no interest in making any effort to research. I have a BMW RT which I love but unless you live on the East or Left Coast reliable dealership (service & maintenance) is really spotty.
@mancavemoto2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, no one has mentioned it so far. It’s always difficult to know what availability is like in different regions
@captainwin63332 жыл бұрын
Regarding the way the screen has to be grabbed with both hands to raise it. It's like 50 years of accumulated knowledge of what's good and what aint gets thrown in the bin when some bikes are designed. Who the hell thought that was a good idea for a touring bike of all bikes? I've seen other bikes where you can manually raise the screen with one hand while riding so there's no excuse to come away with a design like this Honda's. I also think chain drive is a bit of an error too.
@mancavemoto2 жыл бұрын
Yep the screen is confusing, because its actually one of the best screens i riddeen with recently in terms of wind protection. Let down by its adjustment.
@jimporter2 жыл бұрын
Especially as the £5500 Forza 350 has an electric screen.
@1990-t1j2 жыл бұрын
Nice panniers/internal bags. This bike will be popular amonst riders who are not concerned with image. When did you get changed. I like the winter suit you had on at the beginning of the video. What is it, please? First-class review, but what does scootch mean?
@mancavemoto2 жыл бұрын
Indeed, unlike some I don't nip out for a couple of hours on the bike and film a review. I get to know it a little ride in different locations and conditions and film segments at a time. Often if the weather is similar i'll be wearing the same kit on different rides, but we've had spring, summer and winter all in a single week here recently! To Scootch is to 'move a very small distance'...
@alainvankerkhove81412 жыл бұрын
Very good review, sir ! Chain driven for sure and the absence of hand-guards would keep me away from buying it. If not a shaft, then why not a belt ? What is wrong with a belt, Honda ? For the rest : lovely machine and certainly when equipped with a DCT.
@mancavemoto2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Alain
@Speedytrip2 жыл бұрын
Nice review. I think more than a shaft drive, Honda need to work on reducing the frequency and complexity of the maintenance on that engine. It make Italian bikes look low maintenance. Absolutely love the engine, but a 40000km valve check like on yamahas would make a lot more sense on a touring machine. My 91 nighthawk has hydraulic valve lifters and spark plugs and air filters can be changed in minutes…instead of hours. Seat looks uncomfortable as on the Africa twin, thin and slope at the back pushing you toward the tank.
@RRRRefuelRideRace2 жыл бұрын
Will go on a test ride soon. Exactly for the DCT model. Will see. Have to agree with your thoughts. :) Maintenance is a key factor, sure. If the seat bothers you... there can be a big problem. Drop by buddy, you may find it interesting.
@mancavemoto2 жыл бұрын
I think the Africa Twin seat is more comfortable than this bikes for sure.
@jonparr11482 жыл бұрын
As you have been a long term rider off the Africa Twin does the NT1100 offer the less ‘adventurously minded’ of us less sports tourer and more adventure tourer option ? As both a VFR1200 F and a 1200 Crosstourer owner I’m considering a move to ‘consolidate’ to a single bike garage in the next 12 months ?
@mancavemoto2 жыл бұрын
Yes I think you've hit the nail on the head Jon. It was a point i was trying to roughly make, if you don't need the long travel suspension and extra height the Africa Twin has, this is a great alternative.
@raymorris9522 жыл бұрын
I'm sure it's great, Just looks dull as dishwasher! Is this the New Dullsville? Like you jacket though Tony.
@mancavemoto2 жыл бұрын
Ha, you’re not the first to make that observation. Cheers the leather jacket is from Goldtop
@a13bkd622 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed your review. I have a touring type bike and I find the screen does a pretty good job but when it get dirty i.e. all winter, it clags up meaning I cannot see through it at all. In fact it's damned dangerous. It can be adjust down but that requires undoing screws. When on the Honda do you look through or over the screen when it's up? I'm 5.10" and believe you are too hence my interest. Cheers.
@mancavemoto2 жыл бұрын
When its fully up you definitely look through it
@jonnykustow8419 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your review! I've just had my X-ADV written off and need to get a new bike. A question that no one seems to have addressed - is this bike easily maneverable around town (Is filtering reasonably straight forward without the panniers?) I do a lot of urban driving as well as on A roads and motorways so before committing would like your opinion. Best, Jonny
@mancavemoto Жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear that, but yes it is. Filtering is no problem, and actually even with the panniers as they dont stick out too far
@stevenpearson56582 жыл бұрын
did you prefer this or the Vstrom 1050xt. both similar money? cheers
@mancavemoto2 жыл бұрын
I did actually yes, I found it had a slightly better riding position.
@peterconnell31622 жыл бұрын
When I look at this bike the first question that comes to mind is if its “top heavy”?. Honda have a track record of doing this. The second question is “how long would it take before I became bored with this motorcycle?”. It seems like a perfectly nice, reliable (probably), well specified, but not exciting model. Its very Honda. I can see its potential as a good commuter motorcycle with the DCT gearbox, but I personally would want something different for the weekends.
@mancavemoto2 жыл бұрын
I didnt find t top heavy, its less so than the Africa Twin. I think you're right, its very functional, but not very exciting.
@taylorsart99222 жыл бұрын
Great review, wish they did better colours or even Africa twin colours..
@mancavemoto2 жыл бұрын
The AT colour schemes would look interesting
@georgepantelis4811 Жыл бұрын
just a question, what is this black shadows moving from the top to the bottom of the TFT screen??? it shows like the TFT flashes all the time and the ''connection'' is not good. If it is real and not a ''play'' of the video is very annoyed.
@mancavemoto Жыл бұрын
It’s just some artifacts from the frame rate of the camera settings.
@theperson77182 жыл бұрын
The thing that kills it for me is I don't see the cruiser part of it. All I see is a duel sport with street tires only on it. Also is looks the same as the NC750X again with street tires as apposed to duel sport tires. The only thing I do like about it is that it has 42 more HP then the NC750X does otherwise I would class is as a duel sport still has I feel it's miss the cruiser look altogether.
@mancavemoto2 жыл бұрын
I don't think they were aiming it as it as a cruiser, its more inteneded as a touring bike.
@terrymurphy28502 жыл бұрын
Nice one , great info but how does it stack up against the Suzuki GT 1200
@mancavemoto2 жыл бұрын
The Suzuki is much more of a tradtional sports tourer. This is I would say a more relaxing bike to ride. But the suzuki is more of a thrill
@scottastell94152 жыл бұрын
A good review.
@hadtobe45022 жыл бұрын
A while back you did an install of Denali lights on the Africa Twin using the Hex-ez-CAN. Do you think the set up will be the same on this NT1100?
@mancavemoto2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same, and given the platform I'm pretty confident the ezCAN would work on this. I can't see Honda completely changing the ECU?
@feloniousmonk30492 жыл бұрын
Wondering if North America will get this model dropped in the USA for 2023? Any hints or clues?
@DragoniteMotoJP2 жыл бұрын
Panniers are not standard here in Japan but price is almost the same, even though it’s built just an our from me… no sure what Japanese manufactures always do this to us, same thing with my tracer 900gt…
@Sunesen2 жыл бұрын
Panniers are not standard either here in Denmark. And they just bumped the price as well, so now I would have to pay almost 10% more than the advertised price. I'm passing on it until maybe next year.
@jimporter2 жыл бұрын
Well the CB1000 engine doesn’t have DCT which will be a prerequisite for this type of bike from Honda. Once this bike has been around for a couple of years I would be surprised to find a new 1300cc Pan-European introduced based on a upgraded VFR1200F/X which has a shaft and will be updated for Euro5 and slot in between the NT and the Goldwing.
@mancavemoto2 жыл бұрын
Yes that’s true, and is why Honda went with the parallel twin. I think that’s what’s going to happen too
@mickleblade2 жыл бұрын
It's hardly difficult to service a chain so I don't see why guys fuss over a shaft drive.
@mancavemoto2 жыл бұрын
Same here
@CarlosEnriqueAmaro2 жыл бұрын
How did you setup your camera for those angles? I’m guessing it’s a GoPro setup?
@mancavemoto2 жыл бұрын
I use a combination of GoPro, Insta360 and mirrorless cameras for the filming
@UncleWally32 жыл бұрын
As someone who has mounted many bikes and ridden ‘em long ‘n hard for over fifty years, I’m ready for a more . . . well, flaccid mount. To this end, as long as I have access to exciting bikes, the NT would be my next purchase. Would be my next bike, if I could buy one in North America. But, I can’t. So, it looks like it may the Suzuki S1000GT. Now, that K5 engine brings back memories! Did I ever tell you about the time . . . hey, told you I was an ol’fart . . .
@mancavemoto2 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@ermanjones7787 Жыл бұрын
That is a good bike plus cost is not that high. Perfect touring bike
@mancavemoto Жыл бұрын
I've just released a follow up video!
@verdonrocksphotography35102 жыл бұрын
cool looking machine loaded with lot of tech but still not yappi and gimmick looking.....nice review, cheers V!
@mancavemoto2 жыл бұрын
Thanks V
@lpete5312 жыл бұрын
I don't think the chain will cause a lot of buys to overlook this bike, what other bikes have shaft drive in is this class? BMW RT, and the GS's that's it. Honda will not have a problem selling this bike.
@duncang012 жыл бұрын
Honda's Parallel Twin Engines are some of the best. I have a 1981 CM400 that runs like a new bike.
@mancavemoto2 жыл бұрын
Its a fantastic unit, that and the DCT is why I think i love the Africa Twin as much as I do
@Art-kz6zf2 жыл бұрын
Just out of curiosity: Why were both of the turn signals blinking while you were driving?
@mancavemoto2 жыл бұрын
That’s just down the the frame rate of the video. Shot in 24 fps and that seems to be matching the frequency of the lights, giving the strobe effect
@Art-kz6zf2 жыл бұрын
Thanks 🙂 So both turn signals are just on during the ride when one is not signalling a turn?
@Hondadctrider2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2014 NC750X DCT and was thinking about trading it in for the NT but to me the bike looks horrible in the flesh, it's big & bulky at the front with far to much plastic, I was hoping for a more street orientated / naked version. Lets hope that Honda will bring one out soon.
@a.r.t.46112 жыл бұрын
Good, no fuss review👍
@mancavemoto2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 👍
@michaeldobson88592 жыл бұрын
Well its time to label the NT for whatit is. Under engineered. yes a Honda that is under engineered. That is an amazing fact for a Honda. Honda has been surpassed by many bikes in this field and you cannot deny it. Its sized like many competitors Honda has attempted to include the bike into a category full of competition, like Triumph, Ducati, KTM and soon to hi the market Moto Guzzi. This bike is nothing short of below the competition in every department. The only advantage Honda has in selling these under achieving mounts is their reputation. There is only one area where this bike offers something the others do not andn that is the DSG transmission. What a shame and a bad effort by Honda.
@ziondanny7081 Жыл бұрын
Honda will be shattered by your critique 😂
@1angryscotsman2 жыл бұрын
Can they just bring back the ST1300? I still ride mine frequently, even after buying a GW DCT Tour.
@mancavemoto2 жыл бұрын
The Pan European ship has sailed sadly. Its the NT1100 or Goldwing at the moment. But i'm sure your bike will keep going for many years to come
@jasonschell13092 жыл бұрын
Call me crazy, but I still prefer my 2010 ST1300. Electric Windscreen, more power, and a smooth four cylinder.
@cwheremonster88702 жыл бұрын
I loved that ST1300. It was a heavy pig, but such a wonderful ride.
@seano842 жыл бұрын
Subscribed 🔔 Great review and incredibly well presented. New follower here pal 👍
@mancavemoto2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sean, much appreciated
@uponthepegs2 жыл бұрын
Great review of this road based derivative. Solid bike tho not everyone’s taste.
@mancavemoto2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@a.r.t.46112 жыл бұрын
Looks good but not stunning. Not riden one yet, but initial criticisms are; panniers can't accommodate a helmet; front mudguard is useless; colours as bland as can be. Windscreen can only be adjusted by hand and when stopped. Common Honda; it should be electric so it can be adjusted on the move as conditions change. Chain drive! Maybe I can live with a chain again?
@mancavemoto2 жыл бұрын
All valid points, thanks
@susu1982152 жыл бұрын
In between Versys and NT which one to go for ?
@mancavemoto2 жыл бұрын
Tough call, for me the DCT pushes the NT1100 ahead, but thats obviously just me
@worldhello12342 жыл бұрын
@14:42 You don't even "need" a touring bike. It is about fun and 150 horses means more fun, especially on the Autobahn and Nürburgring.
@mancavemoto2 жыл бұрын
Yep, I get that, but by the same token more horses doesn't necessarily mean more fun
@williamrae99542 жыл бұрын
Never ridden anything over 120bhp, never will...never felt the need on Scottish roads, if 120 can't get traction, why need more? And I've got a big boaby, I don't need to substitute it with anything, ha ha!
@raymondwandell88802 жыл бұрын
Why so much heavier than Africa twin?
@Antimortem2 жыл бұрын
Chain drive is a negative. I would go buy a Suzuki's vstrom 1000👍
@Row2nd2 жыл бұрын
this or the tracer 9 gt?
@williamrae99542 жыл бұрын
Let your arse decide...and it's not the Yamaha... I did 800miles on Day 2 on mine, ring of fire there...reason I sold the Tracer 900,that and a sump that wouldn't go over a kerb!
@SonAndDadFPV2 жыл бұрын
Picking up mine today... Bought it without even getting hold of it. But hey, it's a Honda...? Automatic screen would rise the price too much, like it this way 👍
@cwheremonster88702 жыл бұрын
I agree. Not only price, but weight. I like the idea of a power windscreen. I had one on an Indian. But once I found the right height for me, I never touched it again. But it’s still seems like a nice feature.
@Peter-mcmcmc2 жыл бұрын
Love it, and great review (as always). Unfortunately, chain drive is a dealbreaker for me. If I were in the market for a sporty-ish tourer, I'd go for the FJR1300; otherwise, Goldwing for the win.
@1990-t1j2 жыл бұрын
But the Goldwing costs a lot. It's the one I'd go for if I could.
@Peter-mcmcmc2 жыл бұрын
@@1990-t1j I agree that it costs more; yet for touring, it’d likely be the last bike one would buy (see how I’m trying to justify the purchase? lol)
@BibtheBoulder2 жыл бұрын
Chain drive also puts me off a bike for touring. I appreciate modern chains are durable etc but as someone who doesn't do chain adjustment (feel free to criticise me here) a shaft-drive is a godsend. Now, as much as I like the GoldWing it is (IMO) a very specialised bike. Sure, great to get across a continent, but not so good on the curvy roads of the Scottish Highlands. My ideal bike would be a shaft drive Honda NC 750-X DCT. But I'm not holding my breath waiting for one....
@1990-t1j2 жыл бұрын
@@Peter-mcmcmc Get it,Peter. The DCT model.
@Peter-mcmcmc2 жыл бұрын
@@1990-t1j if I were to buy a GW, I’d DEFINITELY go for the manual. I bought the Rebel 1100 in DCT when it was first released; owned it three months; rode it 1300 miles; and sold it. I simply missed shifting too much. Great bike, awesome engine…just too “disconnected” a feeling for me.
@CBRboy17172 жыл бұрын
Seems like my opinion mirrors quite a few other large sport touring riders here. I absolutely love the look of the thing, but there’s 3 hard pass fails. I could get over the lack of a power windshield, but having to get off the bike to move it, major fail. Side panniers that don’t take a full face helmet, major fail. And chain drive on a bike marketed as a touring bike, major fail. Its a shame.
@mancavemoto2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree
@bnolsen2 жыл бұрын
Never a big fan when these reviewers talk up a DCT transmission. If someone wants something like that, fine. I ride a motorcycle to be connected to the road and be outside. I can fine innumerable cages that are geared towards full comfort and have automatic transmissions (I've always owned manual transmissions myself).
@Alexanderpaal672 жыл бұрын
DCT is optional! DCT a brilliant option for several reasons.
@williamrae99542 жыл бұрын
As a truck driver I still see the same luddites saying the same about trucks, auto all the way for me, especially on 1100mile days up through the USA...why make the job even more tiring...those guy's with their 18sp crash gearboxes, think it's a penis extension, it's not, it's a shrunken brain!
@typhoontim1252 жыл бұрын
Kind of like a new Deuville?
@mancavemoto2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, kind of I guess
@HalfManHalfPirate2 жыл бұрын
Good review I thought 👍On the point of Pillions, I think this is something lacking on bike reviews especially on bikes which are more likely to be used 2-up touring etc. I always have two test rides on new bikes, one for myself for the fun bits and if that's ok I then take the wife to get her perspective. If it's uncomfortable for her then it's no good as a touring bike for us.
@mancavemoto2 жыл бұрын
Quite often the insurance on the press bikes doesn't allow for pillions, and my wife won't go anywhere near a bike anyway!
@majordelays49092 жыл бұрын
Wow symmetrical headlight
@jeffwalker13222 жыл бұрын
I can’t stand the sound of the parallel twin. Yamaha doesn’t sound bad because if their 270 degree crank. And chain drives are crazy on bikes like this. Belt drive or shaft. I am not messing with cleaning and lubing chains anymore.
@mancavemoto2 жыл бұрын
This bike also has a 270 degree crank. Shaft drive does seem to be a big issue for this bike though from the feedback i've got
@lr_spb2 жыл бұрын
I like AF AdvSport better, especially when riding twisty roads. The NT1100 has more "disappointing" wind noise on the highway, even with a 17-inch front it is heavier in turns. Think this is more for "older" riders who like straight roads. A big disappointment is that there is no room for a helmet in the panniers
@danielcampbell8184 Жыл бұрын
A serious tourer has a rear shaft drive, as in the Pan-European generations..