I agree with everything u say. U really have balls to criticize the game being vigor partner. But as an old Vigorplayer, im feeling tired. Same bugs for months, crosshair erased, then come back some.. wtf. Crosshair on rifles was cool🤷♂️. Legacy Seasons was something that made many players still playing the game… only 2 encounters abailablennow now really?? And nerfing the donations hub its been anoooother dumb bullshit. Before new player could have 5 bixes just donating food. Well, u explained it very very well. Take care Tiny. I respect what u are doing 👍🏻
@TinyOnline6 күн бұрын
Thank you for your honesty and lovely comment. Sometimes I worry about being a little honest, but being Partner shouldn't mean that I don't voice my experience and thoughts. I am giving constructive feedback and I am trying to still support and promote what is left of the game. I have spent over 6 years with Vigor, been passionate about making it a household name, and now I see it sinking before my eyes. The community has always been at the heart of the game and it wouldn't have got this far without them
@@grossmotorindustries1247 They are gone now.... But I do plan on some shorts soon
@UxorialTax5416 күн бұрын
@@grossmotorindustries1247 we gotta wait for tomato fights now 🥺
@rejh56785 күн бұрын
@TinyOnline Your honesty is refreshing. Especially because you're a partner, just roll it back if you ever get the old "maybe you should take a break from vigor" thing from the devs if you ever get too passionate if you get me lol. Anyways yeah I logged in on the weekend to farm my shelter and the donation box is broken(not implemented well)suprise suprise. I didn't know the Exact numbers but just going on food alone 180k in a week to get the best box is beyond ridiculous and you explained it better than I could've. Putting new features into a game shouldn't punish the player or make them have to grind more plain and simple. They should've kept the old 10k food for the 5 boxes and added this as a side tab with donation to grind towards plans you don't have or extras and wotnot with a longer timer maybe because it takes so many resources(like the challenges tab dailies and seasonal)or something. Good vid👌✌️from the land down under.
@DizzyOnlineYT6 күн бұрын
Thank you for making us think about the Donation Hub. I have confidence in the community that they can come up with some great suggestions. Fingers crossed the Devs can rebalance this change 🤞
@TinyOnline6 күн бұрын
Thanks for your comment and I really do hope so.
@madonel86436 күн бұрын
Amazing video as always a lot of information ❤
@TinyOnline6 күн бұрын
Thanks It was alot to explain and I hope the visuals and sound effects helped to make it clear and entertaining too
@ixjess2k1335 күн бұрын
Amazing Video :)
@TinyOnline15 сағат бұрын
Thank you sweetie
@UxorialTax5416 күн бұрын
I played Vigor for the first time back in 2020, but i quit playing it for 2 or 3 years. It was like this until October 2024 which is when i decided to give it a second chance. I can't say the game sucks now, but i feel it's harder to progress on the game now. Because of this, Donating is pretty much difficult for me, it forces me to donate all of my materials if i want to get a good weapon plan. And i still need the materials to upgrade my shelter. It would be great if the amount of Gratitude you need for each crate was relative to the Shelter's level, or something that lowers the Crates cost for new players.
@UxorialTax5416 күн бұрын
That's also why I played Snowball Fights so much, it guarantees you a bunch of XP and a LOT of crates, And Crates give materials 🤩
@TinyOnline15 сағат бұрын
Thank you for your feedback and honesty You are right about the fact that the game is better than it was years ago and has evolved. Your comment about a good weapon plan - well it depends what you mean by a good weapon plan, as you gain the lower tier rarity first, so it is hard for new players unless they buy the plans they want or buy all the lower tier plans I like the idea of changing the amount of Gratitude. This could be a great overhaul altogether
@TinyOnline15 сағат бұрын
@@UxorialTax541 I noticed that too. Loads of XP and crates that give you extra XP when you open them and like you said, you can Deconstruct the items you don' t want to give you Materials which you can use in the Donation Hub. Saying this, the other day I used only Materials to get the 200K to check it all - which was 2 million Materials. That's alot just for 1 weeks worth though.
@Airwolfandy806 күн бұрын
Food should definitely be worth more in the donation hub, as Tiny says it has no other use. I have only donated once just for a daily challenge.
@TinyOnline15 сағат бұрын
Thank you for you comment and feedback.
@TheOrcaArchive6 күн бұрын
I remember saving up 10k food for all crates, food was a resource I looked for in encounters for this reason. Now 10k food isn't even enough for 2 crates, the rewards however are extremely high for the current donation crate. If any changes does happen, id say keep the rewards lol, weapon plans 🎉
@TinyOnline6 күн бұрын
Thank you for your comment I agree with this. I would say that I know many that have never got a plan yet..... but it is a good reward. It is just a shame that they took the rest away - hopefully they change this
@TheOrcaArchive6 күн бұрын
@TinyOnline oh yeah I know the veterans already have most of the plans and may get tired of them, as a relatively new player I'm still on the plans grind. I do agree with what you said in the video, keeping plans and adding a donation exclusive skin and crowns, I'm sure those rewards would be rewarding
@TinyOnline6 күн бұрын
@@TheOrcaArchive
@simonsays26856 күн бұрын
10K in food gets you half a white crate. It's worthless now, my shelters maxed out and it takes two weeks of collecting my shelter stuff to get a white crate.
@grossmotorindustries12476 күн бұрын
I like all those ideas. Especially the 200K donation getting all 6 crates. Ticket to play bonus snowball matches would also be great.
@TheCarromkid4 күн бұрын
I stopped playing after that last update. I'm just here to support, drop a like and feed the algorythm. Good luck.
@TinyOnline15 сағат бұрын
Thank you for your support, like and comment
@Johanmorffe6 күн бұрын
Another thing I want to add is that when I play with people who have been playing for years, they are dissatisfied because they don't do something different to improve, such as looking forward to crossplay.
@TinyOnline6 күн бұрын
I think veterans have seen it all - including broken promises. So their passion for new things like crossplay is weak as there is no date to confirm it coming yet. At the drop of the season, they said by the end of January 2025 and now that we are at January, they are saying in 2025. The lack of new content, the fact that the weapon overhaul took years to come and hasn't really changed much, the lack of a new shelter improvement which seems to have not come but turned into a bad revamp of the charity box.... it goes on and on
@simonsays26856 күн бұрын
The new donation hub is a kick in the teeth for new players, they're not going to be donating resources they need to build the shelter up to get a crate. I'm just donating now to stock up on special issue crates which I'll open on double XP days. Another badly thought out downgrade from the devs.
@TinyOnline6 күн бұрын
Thanks for your feedback I agree and I also save my crate opening for the double XP events
@Johanmorffe6 күн бұрын
I've been playing Vigor for two months now and I've noticed a change with the donation boxes, now there are more people looting and camping in encounters to get resources to the shelter.
@TinyOnline6 күн бұрын
Thank you for your comment That's interesting, so Outlanders want to get the loot and not the kills so much, or do you think the looters are acting differently?
@Johanmorffe6 күн бұрын
@@TinyOnline Exactly that created a conflict since now they care more about the loot than going to kill to get there safely.
@Johanmorffe6 күн бұрын
@@TinyOnline Even if you see the KZbin videos of some players before the donation box not looting but going to kill, now they are going to loot in order to get to the shelter faster.
@TinyOnline6 күн бұрын
@@Johanmorffe Do you think this is like this because it's new. Maybe the hype will stop after a few weeks or a new season - or do you think the Outlands have changed forever
@TinyOnline6 күн бұрын
@@Johanmorffe So right now you see that the Outlanders that used to hunter all the time, have changed their ways.... but I feel this may be temporary. They are properly trying to get top on those leaderboards, but if they actually like to hunt, they may just go back to it soon. Thank you for the insight though Is this on all platforms or a certain one?
@martinmoss76526 күн бұрын
I think in the entire time I’ve been playing vigor I was lucky less than a handful of times to get plans in the donation crate and I had to go all the way to the top tier before one was handed to me and then it wasn’t weapons it was just a consumable even now I still don’t have all the healing consumables 🤷♂️. I’ve had to buy most of what I wanted in the store and again I only got these items when they are offering a discount spending crowns ! You could get plans before the change but you’d say oh yeah like when ? it was almost never ! I’d tried and tried but they were just very short in coming. Now yes as you’ve said in the video we’re loosing out not gaining and food just when we’ve all got our rat traps producing enough food to get a steady 10,000 a week you change it seriously and don’t get me started on gameplay shootouts seem to have magic bullets and other wonderful attributes 🤔🤷♂️
@TinyOnline6 күн бұрын
Thanks for you comment and honesty. I hear what you say about the lack of plans in crates over the past couple of years, this has been a hot topic. If this change with the Charity Box system to the Donation Hub is the only place to get a plan in the game, then the Devs need to change the other crate wording and be honest about it. If there is still a chance to get a plan from the crates, then there is still a chance - which should not be taken away. I do hope they re think the food value worth as the shelter is part of the main aim in Vigor - making that worthless is going to destroy the game There are many other issues in the game right now and I hope that the community make a point to raise these at the next Dev Stream
@LostB00MER6 күн бұрын
Athey have cut the exp too crate is 500 instead of 1000. Some been taken out.
@TinyOnline15 сағат бұрын
Thanks for you comment. Which crates are you refering to please?
@TinyOnline13 сағат бұрын
I have checked all the crates. There is no change to crates XP when opening them. You can see all the XP values with opening the crates on my XP video I made back in August 2024 kzbin.info/www/bejne/oYqWinmarrFjoqMsi=cLgPRsK8PEp56-dG 5 minutes in you will see the list of all the XP you get from Crate Opening. The only Crate not on the video is the NEW Donation Crate, which as I say in this video, is 2,000 XP when opening it
@LostB00MER13 сағат бұрын
@TinyOnline sorry I mean when you retrieve the drop crate from encounters and have cut alot of exp for doing stuff. Like collecting trolls, if in a team only first person In a blue box or berried cash gets exp. I apologize for wasting your time
@michaelphillips14396 күн бұрын
Stopped playing when the donation change happened. Use to log in daily but not worth it now. Surely they will notice the drop off in log ins since they've changed it ???
@TinyOnline6 күн бұрын
Thank you for your comment and honesty I hope that the data will scream out that the community aren't happy, but I think they need feedback too. Thank you for yours
@karllungmus91886 күн бұрын
If they want make the donation crate even harder to get make it 250000 to get it but make food back to the way it was for xp and it's use and get all crates no matter what level you donate up to not just the 1.
@TinyOnline15 сағат бұрын
Thanks for your feedback and like that idea
@PhilnewDUKE6 күн бұрын
On piont. This game is old but still has potential. But for now, it is dying 😢
@TinyOnline15 сағат бұрын
Thanks for the comment I really hope they can sort it out as it's such a shame if they don't
@martaaay7746 күн бұрын
the new donation system makes the building of 'Food' Rat Traps, and Allotment absolutely pointless as the donation of food is now so worthless it's not worth building these for the resources they cost.
@TinyOnline6 күн бұрын
Thanks for the feedback I agree. The main aim in Vigor is to max the shelter and they have poo poo that now. I hope they listen to the feedback
@svendettloff33816 күн бұрын
Ich muss sagen vigor ist ein tolles game aber die müssen mal aus dem game mal eine Entwicklung und mal besser werden haben mehr Potential das game ich spreche mal für alle wir wünschen uns mal von vigor eine Verbesserung ❤❤❤❤
@TinyOnline6 күн бұрын
Thank you for your comment and honesty Vigor potential has always been a thing and I agree that we would like to see an improvement from Vigor or from BI to support it
@Incognito1978_Mn6 күн бұрын
Nice idea Tiny, but unfortunately, the devs have shown time over time that they don't care. At this point it is more about them making money vs. improving the game.
@TinyOnline15 сағат бұрын
Thank you for your honesty and I'm afraid that many Outlanders agree with you on this. I am hoping that with all this feedback, they may listen and do something to save it
@kiley_bo_peep38606 күн бұрын
Make food great again!
@TinyOnline15 сағат бұрын
Here here Thanks for your feedback
@moclips74396 күн бұрын
This game needs a custom button layout for people with disabilities
@TinyOnline14 сағат бұрын
Thank you for your comment. Which platform do you play on? I believe that there is custom button layouts on PC, but not on consoles atm. I think having custom buttons on consoles are a great idea going forward though. I will share this with the Devs now
@thuglifeoutlaw34746 күн бұрын
La verdad es que no es cierto que antes te dieran planos. Yo solo tenia dos plano: Luger P-08 y Thompson. No se exactamente de dónde salieron pero los tengo esos planos desde el primer dia, estuve meses jugando abri cientos cajas (mas de mil seguro) y ninca me toco nada. Gracias a este nuevo sistema, me estoy quedando sin materiales, la comida es initil ahora pero por lo menos puedo conseguir planos. Lleveba meses, desde que empecé a jugar estancado con los dos mismos planos y ahora en pocas semanas ya tengo un montón de planos nuevos: escopeta spas, m14, ballesta, cuchillo vyper, carabina m2. No tdas me gustan pero se agradece tener planos nuevos, antes era imposible.
@TinyOnline15 сағат бұрын
Thanks for your feedback and it sounds like you were one of those that joined when the plan loot pool was not very generous. I feel this could have been an issue, something the Devs never admitted and maybe a reason for the Donation Crate. This is my opinion and not facts - Many Partners have asked the Devs about the plan loot pool. It IS true that you could get plans before as I have all the plans and I have never bought a plan from the store, but I also understand that more recently, the plan pool seems to not be right. I think the idea of the plans in the crate is a perfect, but the means to get them needs to be more realistic maybe
@LostB00MER6 күн бұрын
Bring the legacy passes back. Have level 5 give you the 5 crates and plan crate you just get the one crate
@TinyOnline15 сағат бұрын
Do you like the Legacy crate idea that a community member suggested?
@LostB00MER6 сағат бұрын
@TinyOnline maybe bit expensive. Need sort food level out.
@zahiryambo4 күн бұрын
I dont donate anymore only because my shelter is not maxed out only time i will donate is when i get 200,000 food.
@TinyOnline14 сағат бұрын
Thanks for your honesty This is a great way to look at it right now. Lets hope they make Food worth more so that it isn't such a grind anymore
@Johanmorffe6 күн бұрын
At the same time they always complain about the same maps and that they do not create new dynamics.
@TinyOnline6 күн бұрын
Are you saying that the maps need to be different and are too similar or do you mean that veterans will complain about the same maps?
@Johanmorffe6 күн бұрын
@@TinyOnline They are complaining that they are always the same maps
@TinyOnline6 күн бұрын
@@Johanmorffe Oh the rotation of the maps. I suppose it will depend on when you play. With only 2 maps in rotation, maybe they need the maps to be less time to get them to rotate more
@Murphy-Xx633xX6 күн бұрын
I think the new donation system is nothing what isn't adjustable ... Maybe they had to add the old system back for new Players and on top the add the new system. Were you can spend other Ressources for other crates, or more crates. To be honest they never will please everyone, there will allways be people who complain. F
@TinyOnline14 сағат бұрын
Thanks for your honesty and you are right, they will never please everyone. I just feel a few tweaks here and there will make a massive difference. Time will tell
@zahiryambo4 күн бұрын
Bring back legacy pass i was looking forward to those plans they had
@TinyOnline14 сағат бұрын
Thanks for you comment The Legacy plans will be in or eventually be in the Donation Crate The Legacy idea in the video, was about the Legacy cosmetics
@MikeGill-n1v6 күн бұрын
New players will never get anything. Leave it the way it was but add a 30000 donation for a special reward.
@TinyOnline6 күн бұрын
I like this feedback - bring both together
@joe_higachi6 күн бұрын
MAKE VIGOR ON SWITCH AGAIN 😂😂😂
@TinyOnline6 күн бұрын
I know that no date has been set yet, other than some point in 2025. Do you have a prediction? Are you thinking of switching to another console or PC to play Vigor, or will this be it when it goes - for you I mean?
@tt53456 күн бұрын
Bring back legacy seasons!!!!!!!
@TinyOnline6 күн бұрын
So do you like the last Community idea - have a Legacy Crate worth 400K Gratitube?
@svendettloff33816 күн бұрын
Das mit der Kiste zu spenden ist schwach sind nur wegen Blaupause andere die jetzt neu sind können das nicht spenden .
@TinyOnline6 күн бұрын
I agree Those that need the plans - new players - do not have the spare resources and yet veterans have the spare resources, but yet don't need the plans