Villainpedia: Dark Link

[@broman1449]

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[@cin2110]

Engideer

[@ronnychristenjoyer6778]

It's hard to disagree with that.

[@thatkn1ghtguy942]

G A M I N G

[@ilikebagels2muchitsaproble732]

Gaming

[@jefffan1992]

I came across a fan comic a few years back where Link entered the water temple with doubts because of the state Hyrule was in and how he saw suffering across the land because he unlocked the door to the sacred realm. Once he walked past the dead tree and examined the door. In short Dark Link said the following " Your doubts and hesitation locks us here!" Link turned to see his shadow doppelganger. "If you want to pass, prove me wrong." During the fight Dark Link jumps on Link's blade and with a smile kicks the hero in the side of the face disarming him. "A hero without resolve shouldn't have this blade!" Dark Link then said "Don't worry once I'm done here I'll right your wrongs!" After a long battle and mockery Link won Dark Link laying against the dead tree."Better but just know this you falter again we will meet again and I will replace you." The room changes to its normal state with both the tree and Dark Link vanishing. In this comic Dark Link represents feeling defeated and unworthy a voice telling us we aren't good enough yet still played the role of a doppelganger wishing to kill the orginal and take his place. The tree I think is symbolic of Link's mental state being unwell. I thought this was a good take on the fight because the location it happens at is the water temple making the theme reflection instead of the shadow temple which could mean darkness in everyone.

[@MokubaIce]

I’ve always seen Dark Link has the representation of having to beat the vile and evil within you, it’s facing reality and despite its harshness and evil also being represented within yourself it doesn’t define you. Beating him is proving that entire point, not being able to beat that is becoming the shadow yourself.

[@s0vnds]

How did you comment 7 hours before release 🤨

[@TheLostVenom]

Link facing his jungian IT!

[@charlesboucher2370]

@@s0vnds some words transcend time ig

[@wonder_platypus8337]

@@s0vnds that is odd. Digital time travel.

[@toastedt140]

@wonder_platypus8337 just a guess but channels with a patreon sometimes let patrons watch videos earlier than public release

[@Hollow_Phoenix]

I feel like the Dark Link from Hyrule Warriors was everything you say you wanted to see. When Link got the Master Sword and started winning every battle, he charged ahead of his side's armies, went looking for fights personally, and as seen with his smug expression as his presence alone scared his foes, *he had grown an ego*. That was what Cia used to create Dark Link - his own negative aspects, strengthened. It was really a perfect tactical move from her - she used his ego, lured him away into isolation, then took all that ego and turned it against him. He only survived because his allies made it in time to help him. Absolutely brilliant representation of what Dark Link can be.

[@Tazerboy_10]

Yeah!

[@myrojyn]

That game is so awesome to play

[@Gatorah]

The same thing with Dark link in the Twilight Princess manga. Love that writing!

[@hibikikanade]

Dark Link in Ocarina of Time is the representation of hopelessness. Imagine waking up after a 7 year hibernation to see that the world that you were supposed to protect has been dominated by the definition of evil. Having Dark Link appear specifically in the water temple alludes to it being a reflection of something within himself - and the extreme difficulty of the dungeon also makes the player want to give up as well. Throughout the fight, the increasing opaqueness and strength of the shadow highlights how difficult it is to 'conquer yourself'. Jumping onto Links sword is such an unhinged tactic, who would actually do this in a fight? Dark Link is not some trained warrior sent by Ganon, he is something else entirely. The fact that this strange action is a counter attack - a stopping of Links blade - signifies the idea of putting down the sword. Stop fighting for the world - its already gone. Youve already lost. He puts his entire nihilistic weight on the very thing that Link relies on to continue his quest. Dead tree = the decay of Hyrule. Locked doors = no choice but to face his internal struggles. Disappearance of reflection = losing faith within himself. After the victory, the reappearance of Links reflection symbolizes the renewed confidence in his ability and purpose, and the fact that Dark Link never appears again shows how strong this conviction has become. There is no more doubt - he /is/ the hero and the world /can/ be saved.

[@Thecommander248]

What I love about Dark Link is how cocky he seems to be. In Ocarina, when you stab at him, he jumps on and balances on your sword for a second before punishing you. Link is very much proud of his own skills. In Twilight Princess, Link is trained by the Ocarina Kid Timeline version of himself who has become a Stalfos. This Stalfos Link couldn't pass on to the afterlife because he never passed on his skills to an apprentice. This both left the Kingdom's soldiers unprepared, but also caused the memory of him to fade. Link would never admit it, but some part of him wants people to know what he did and carry on using the skills he personally developed. Dark Link is a twisted reflection of that. Link never shows off unless it's to prove a point. In fact, in some ways, Dark Link is BETTER than Link. Our Link can't jump onto Dark Link's sword. Dark Link is justifiably proud of his skills. He allows you a second to realize your mistake before he punishes you. He is what our Link would be if he threw away his caution, restraint, and morals to become an egotistical maniac hurting people to show that he is the best. That HE is the greatest warrior alive.

[@nothinghere8434]

OoT's Dark Link starts out transparent, defensive and passive. Nothing really happens as long as you don't engage him, then after a while of fighting him he becomes more solid and aggressive. You could interprete that as this Link partially failing to fully overcome his shadow and choosing violence when in doubt, which, in turn, meets him with more opposing violence; maybe in part to him still being a child in mind, missing years of his life compared to his body. Dark Link is very tricky to beat with your sword to the point I wouldn't exclude any tactic using the sword to be an unintentional oversight. So in the end, all this fight really teaches Link about himself is to be more versatile in his methods of battle instead of overrelying on his sword, which is something I often fall into (and honestly the 3D games don't really discourage -_-).

[@mariecarie1]

What’s interesting is, from my understanding, Link is somewhat based on Peter Pan-hence the green outfit and cap, slightly elfin appearance, sword, all that. In Peter Pan and Wendy’s first encounter, his shadow has detached from Peter in Wendy’s nursery, and Peter’s flying around chasing after it. Then, Wendy has to help sew it back onto Peter’s feet. If it’s true that Link was at all inspired by Peter Pan, then it’s super fascinating to see this shadow motif incorporated and morphed into its own meaning in the Zelda series. Super cool! It might be interesting in a future Zelda game to turn Shadow Link on its head, and use it to discuss how negative emotions and feelings are just as valid to have and handle as much as positive ones. Rather than “banish the bad thoughts!” and fighting the “bad feelings” of anger, sadness, etc, we are forced to look at Shadow Link/Link as yin and yang-both are necessary to balance each other out. It’s an out-there idea, but one that could be really poignant if done right.

[@ontheedgeofshadow2790]

The LoZ games have always been Deep, and dolled up with bright colors, and light hearted to be easily digested by kids.. HOWEVER the many MANY implications of the themes, situations, and scenarios Link and us the players find ourselves in make you realize how gritty, and "pulpy" and VERY mature for its time and design.. which just goes to show how beautiful the entire thing is as a work of artwork and storytelling. But yes, point blank, the implications of a Shadow version of Link is fucking terrifying. The Shadow Link fight is (according to the Youngian, as well as the Occultist.. more a "Spiritual" battle than a physical one; just like the Labors of Heracles were not all entirely physical labors, but spiritual and mental exercises as well) thanks for Posting this... this is an excellent dive on the subject, well done!

[@SirVyre]

Ah, a video worthy of a rumination or two! Thanks for the feast, Ghostcharm. Consider my comments a gift from a guest (Though I am Alexander W :3)! As far as the concept of Dark Link goes, I've always seen him as testing Link by putting him against himself. You alluded to that many times in this video, of course. And that is his original appearance. Where you've conquered all other seals and road blocks. Those temples in Zelda II are there, at least as I recall, as safeguards against evil gaining the Triforce. What better way to counter the unworthy than to pit them against their mirror equal? Forget not the tiny Hylian wizard who waves his cane and disappears causing the boss fight to start. The later incarnations are where it starts to get mildly nebulous (and then even more interesting). I think Dark Link in OoT is similar to the original incarnation. Likely a safeguard put just before the Longshot by the Zora who used to watch over that temple. As everything within the Water Temple in OoT is a naturally occurring Hyrule bound creature except for Morpha. You mainly go against the traps and Link's inability to traverse water well in that temple. A true test to receive the Zora's most powerful tool. As far as later in the series goes, it seems to me that some narrative framing for Dark Link has been steadily building. Perhaps even since Majora's Mask. Prepare for fan fiction/theory! So in Majora's Mask you can get that mask, The Fierce Deity. The Fierce Deity is supposedly, by some accounts, merely symbolic of the faith of the residents of Termina made manifest in Link referencing a concept from I believe some flavor of Buddhism(or perhaps Shintoism) where a good but wrathful god punish bad ones in order to aid humanity. If we walk with that concept to Skyward Sword wherein Link was originally a "man" who had been imprisoned by the other mortals. He was given the choice by the goddess to either take revenge on the Hylians or to stand with her. He stood valiantly alongside the Goddess Hylia, who sought to make him her champion, offering him her sword, only for him to turn it down due to thinking himself impure. He went on to wield her sword against the Demon King Demise anyway, but he was slain. However, his actions were enough to allow Hylia to raise up Skyloft, and their love caused her to shed her godhood to be with him in the future. I submit that the Fierce Deity references this original version of Link, someone who was a monster by regular Hylian's standards, but still considered himself a man. The vengeful thoughts he carries from once being hated by other people is what gets carried through time alongside his spirit, manifesting as Dark Link. When you think about it, however much the story makes him out to just be a man, Link is caught in this eternal recurrence between himself, Zelda, and Ganon(Demise). He is more or less a deity in the setting, though he is bound more by rules than the other two. It's no surprise that his inner darkness manifests physically. Anywho, that's enough fanfic for now. Great video Ghostcharm!

[@iponce2]

Glad the homie is back. Ghost has a fantastic narrative cadence that feels like a pal talking about some cool shit he likes while you guys play smash bros or something like. Good vibes man

[@glidershower]

The Dark Link in the water temple in OoT feels more like an ancient trap or test rather than an entity sent or powered by Ganondorf. To me it feels like it was designed to be _the_ boss of that temple rather than Morpha, but dunno why they might've changed their mind. Nonetheless, the reverence given to that fight: the wait, the Dali-esque surreal landscape that ends up being an illusion, the reflection that suddenly disappears after crossing that middle island (which to me is a metaphor for briefly not judging yourself which is a prime state to sunk into villainy), seeing the door is still locked, _then the shocker of seeing _*_you're not alone anymore..._* is what makes that fight *THE* fight in the entire game. Not only a boss fight but the one that will still haunt you even after finishing the game. Those factors, and the fact that it takes place almost in the middle of the order you're supposed to collect the sage medallions. are what tell me this wasn't a mere fight Ganon orchestrated to f*ck with you, _this was an otherworldly experience the which you have not even the slightest idea what could've triggered it_ or even if Ganon has any idea this could happen. The only other event that could equal or even (just slightly) surpass that WTF factor in my experience of Zelda games was the fight against *THEM* in _Majora's Mask._

[@finlay9616]

So glad I'm attached to the discord. Got the notification immediately and SO GLAD YOU'RE BACK BUDDY!!! I hope you're feeling refreshed

[@long060]

So, stick with me here. We know that the Link in each game isn't the same individual. We can infer one of two things from this - either these all just happen to randomly be young men with blonde hair and pointy ears that are the ones always called to adventure - OR that Link is a more metaphysical being. We could infer that Link is a perpetual being that while not being immortal will always be reborn in spirit in a different body in a different time and place. If we go off of that theory we could feasibly extrapolate that Shadow Link could be - rather than a manifestation or an illusion or a magic spell - ACTUAL Links that "fell to the dark side" for lack of a better phrase and were killed and resurrected, captured and indoctrinated, corrupted by the dark world, or worst of all fell victim to their own power and ambition.

[@BigothyArchibaldBusiness]

I know this isn't actually an OFFICIAL zelda game plug; But if you want an UNDERRATED and OUTSTANDING representation of Dark Link: Give Relics of Hyrule a try. It's a skyrim mod that adds an ENTIRE story to how Skyrim popped up on the Ruins of Hyrule. You should ABSOLUTELY check it out. I feel like the mod deserves a LOT more attention for its representation and cahracterization of the characters and plotpoints brought up in Zelda. I'd honeslty LOVE a short video on the story analyzing it to its fullest extent. Its SO OUTSTANDING and does the Zelda franchise an amazing favor with its writing, story, gameplay, and fanservice.

[@Crow_Rising]

My favorite and probably one of the more unique usages of the trope is Omega Zero from Mega Man Zero 3. At surface level he seems like just your typical mirror match, and by the time you get to this fight he doesn't even really put up much of a fight anymore. However, look a bit deeper and the narrative impact of this fight really hits hard. Consider the rest of this comment to be spoilers. Omega is using Zero's original body, relegating Zero himself to a mere copy body. Most other stories would focus on the hero reclaiming their body, but not here. Zero feels no attachment or sentimentality towards his old body, and does not crave the greater power it possesses over the one he's in. As such, while Omega himself isn't actually a true reflection of Zero, narratively Zero is indeed fighting himself in the realest way possible, and ultimately ends up destroying his old body. While he likely isn't aware of what he's doing in the moment, this is ultimately the final nail in the coffin for Dr. Wily's legacy and his dark influence on the world so long after his death, as his original body was not only designed by Wily and the last remaining thing he ever made, but is literally the single biggest reason everything went so wrong from the X series up to the current moment in the Zero series. In destroying it, Zero not only rights a two+ century year old wrong, but frees himself from the dark legacy of his creator to take control of his own destiny. It's almost symbolic of him breaking his chains and becoming free.

[@evrfreez]

I'm one of those rare souls who not only played Adventure of Link, but beat it. I'm probably even rarer in that it was one of my favorites; probably because of my love for RPG mechanics, which that game had, the ability to level up your stats through grinding. Anyway! Dark Link was an epic final battle. That last palace was a nightmare, leading up to him, I remember being so tense and not wanting to die. I, too, finally settled on the cheesy jump-duck-slash hit to poke over his guard, I don't even know how you're supposed to beat him otherwise, he's so fast at blocking.. definitely a worthy final boss, a real test to earn the Triforce. When I saw him again years and years later in Ocarina of Time it was a real OH SHIT moment. To be honest, I barely remember the rest of the Water Temple, that fight took all of that head space. I kinda fell off with consoles, switching over to PC gaming, but it really pleases me to see how many other appearances Dark Link has made. Great vid as always, love the channel~

[@The_Dev_175]

The classic “Fight the evil dark clone of yourself” trope has been done countless of times but god damn do I still love it. And Dark Link/Shadow Link was the start of that love! The idea of needing to conquer someone who is on par with your own skill set and tools( because it’s well, you ) is just really cool to me.

[@schnoz2372]

I guess its one of those times where something became a trope because it was good rather than being good before being troped to death

[@pierrelindgren5727]

The Persona series does this well with the consequences of rejecting the negative aspects of yourself on full display. And the power gained by accepting and understanding them. But I do appreciate the silent antagonist approach taken with Dark Link too. Its a nice break from sometimes overly chatty darker and edgier selves we fight or see.

[@Tazerboy_10]

Yeah

[@stolenhero6650]

I think Dark Link is the manifestation of Linke Intrusive thoughts caused by the TriForce of Courage. In Link to the Past, it is stated that the TriForce responds to emotion and desire. The more pure that Desire is, the more physical the Manifestation of it is. So when Dark Link shows up, i think whats truly happening to link is "I cant." "Im too weak." "What if i Fail?" "This is only luck." "what if i just leave?" "What if... I just kill them all?" "I have the firepower of the entire kingdom, the power of the triforce under me. Why cant I be the ruler? Slay Ganondorf, and then when Zelda turns to walk away, take the mastersword and slay her from behind. No knight could stop me, i am the most powerful of all warriors." And in response, the Triforce of coursge responds by giving Link the ultimate test of courage, to see if he is worthy of wielding him, the only thing every hero will fall easily pray to, themselves and the voices in their head that tell them that they can't. After all, He who says he can't, and he who says he can, are both usually right.

[@inkaymr4919]

Aw man, you captured the OoT Dark Link footage on the old and broken Switch Online version. It's so much cooler when you get to see the reflection being gone... At least it's fixed nowadays. Another angle I could see regarding Dark Link in A Link Between Worlds is SPOILER ALERT >>>>>>>>>>>>>> SPOILER ALERT >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ravio, Lorule's Link counterpart, who couldn't overcome his cowardness to try to stop the plan of stealing the Triforce, having to rely on the light world Link to save them. I hope we get to see Dark Link in TotK. Anyway, amazing video and I'm glad you're back!

[@Ozzymandius1]

The real villains are the friends you make along the way.

[@GEORGESmith-xb3ll]

🍻TRUe

[@karabak8103]

I like to think of Dark Link as a representation of Link's fears, his laziness, everything that holds us back in life. Link, being the bearer of the triforce of courage, is chosen for that role because he conquers those personal demons and does what needs to be done better than any other. I don't believe in "evil" in the traditional sense. Something that is the "embodiment of evil" never made much sense to me. It would be self-defeating. Destruction for destructions sake. Granted, some villains are just that. Anyway, Dark Link being the "evil" within Link just doesn't track for me. Again, I see it as Link overcoming all of his self-doubt and everything that holds us back in life. All of the things that keep us taking the easy path while Link chooses the hard without question. I also love your theory about previous heroes of time establishing this as some sort of a test to see if the individual is worthy of the triforce of courage. It's a huge responsibility.

[@matt.b5984]

To me dark/shadow link has always been a trail/test, never an enemy, other than 4 swords he doesn't even do anything bad, and half the time he doesn't even attack you unless you attack him, but in links adventure he's the final TEST to see if you're worthy of the triforce piece, in oot it litterally tells you "hey, go conquer yourself " not, this is how you kill this enemy because he's not an enemy. Go see if you're strong enough to last against yourself. In just ab every other game he's a post game, final test of strength. He's only "evil" when being summoned by the maim bady but that's hardly ever and those aren't the real dark link or "shawdow of link", 1 is created because of ganons hatred and the help of a magic item, so its a magical entity and the other is a shadow figure brought from a whole new world that should of just taken on the shape of whos its there to fight. The real shadow of link has always been a test

[@Chronicgamer36]

To me, in my adulthood anyway, I always interpreted Dark/Shadow Link to be the sort of... Inverse of the Triforce of courage. What I mean by that is that, even though it's hard to really tell since he's silent, Link never really falters with his goals, there's never any moment of wavering, nothing. He just goes, and maybe that's symbolic of courage itself. On the reverse of that, Dark/Shadow Link makes you give pause, and is usually a fairly challenging fight (if you're not using any kind of easy strategy, ie: crouch stabbing in Zelda 2), and to me that creates a sort of notion to either the player, or to Link, that this is now too much. "Maybe I should give up." "If this is the hardest thing I've encountered, how will I save Hyrule?", etc. A manifestation of the opposite of courage - fear, anxiety, possibly even cowardice. This is probably largely just a headcanon, but I do find it really interesting to think that the Triforce pieces could also pull at their opposite, or at least give more of a gray scale to them since it feels like courage and wisdom are always represented as good/positive, and power is always evil. There's a lot of room to explore from just a human element of those three pieces, but that's a topic for another time.

[@mightbebobbie]

When you mentioned the untold struggles of Link, it reminded me of what Zelda wrote in her diary in Breath of the Wild, concerning how Link doesn't talk. He chooses not to, because he feels an overbearing weight of responsibilty. He is so stressed about being a hero, he feels the need to appear calm and collected at all times.

[@mariolemus12]

In one of the timelines link falls in battle, one mystery is that some people say he fell to Ganondorf, what if in reality link lost to Dark Link? If you think about it that timeline's Link never did find Navi or Saria, Maybe his depression, loneliness and hopelessness of never finding his two best friends just got too much for him and eventually lost to his negative thoughts, loss of motivation and just gave in to lose against Dark Link.

[@WishedWash]

Pretty sure Navi never left Link's side until after Ganondorf's defeat, and that's evident by her still giving Link info on enemies before/during the Forest Temple. Still, your point stands about Saria and seeing the land he's trying so hard to save fall to darkness just because he wasn't strong or old enough to use the master sword must have been devastating.

[@theonlybilge]

Navi only leaves after the Ganon fight, and you have to finish the Forest Temple before you do the Water Temple.

[@-SoberSoviet-]

Idk why I found it so funny but, 9:52 made me literally choke on my Mountain Dew 🤣

[@Korobooshii]

I'm curious as to wether people calling Zelda 2 "insanely difficult" have enen played the game, or if they just listen to what everyone else says. Because it really isn't that hard. Unlike Zelda 1, it's even easily beatable without a guide. Yeah it's not easy, but absolutely totally fair at least most of the time, and really not at all as hard as everyone says. Takes some practice, is all.

[@sydneyrose6455]

It kinda makes Link seem more human and realistic to have this evil shadow side. I would probably stop and say some nasty things to myself along such adventures such as why am I the one that has to do all this, where the royal guards and military to at least try to take down Ganon or whoever, it would be so much easier to say fuck it and destroy the whole damn kingdom, and so forth but would have to remind myself possibilities of what happened to the guards, how much work would be involved for me to take care of myself without other people around to harvest and mill grains into flour, and so forth. Sonic the hedgehog is sometimes accused of being insane or neurodivergent in some way because of his usual happy go lucky, I can handle anything, kind of personality.

[@oliparkhouse]

I have been away and I have missed these videos. What a grand and intoxicating day it is to be able to dive back into the wonderful world of Ghostcharm

[@rocklerock495]

It would be interesting if Nintendo creates a new Zelda series or another Timeline where we play as Link but in his worst, evil version of him while Zelda and his friends are trying to save him. Or have a darker timeline in the Zelda series where the Hero is no longer a hero but IS Demise reincarnated who wins over Hyrule. Then maybe in the next series where dark Link will face his better version of himself.

[@dolphinboi-playmonsterranc9668]

"Who are you?" "I'm you but cooler." 16:59 Why are blue women always so hot

[@mattturner6017]

Counselor: "Come now, don't be shy. Everyone else said it. Now it's your turn." Link: "..." Counselor: "You can overcome the darkness inside yourself, but you have to face some unpleasant truths first. Do you have the courage to do it?" Link: "My... My name is Link... and I'm an alcoholic." A.A. Group: "Hi, Link!" Link: "I went into a milk bar for the first time as a child..."

[@Robert_D_Mercer]

at 13:40 your on the vitual console ver... The water graphic is glitched here and you cant even see the reflections... lol

[@Ghostcharm]

the biggest tragedy of modern nintendo

[@ryanb2823]

One of the most underrated KZbinrs right now. Nothing but consistent quality content. Keep it up dude!

[@TheLostVenom]

Man, coming across Dark Link in Twilight Princess was absolute nightmare fuel. It went from evening to night in that scene.

[@snoozysnail1068]

I can't believe it took the algorithm so long to recc your vids. Been binging them lately. They are everything I love on KZbin. The deep video game knowledge and research, the humor, the way it feels like a friend is just casually explaining something too you in your computer room, while also being wonderfully insightful. It's kinda attractive.

[@Argorok87]

This makes me think you really need to do a Villainpedia for one of the near-identical rival style villains like Vergil from Devil May Cry, Sam from Metal Gear Rising, etc. Vergil comes to mind first with his whole backstory and arc leading up to a potential redemption but with just as easy a chance to stab everyone in the back in future DMC titles.

[@Yuzeyobe]

Cant tease mass effect without making a villainpedia of the illusive man ;) glad to see you back!

[@VicZam9]

Give "46&2" by TOOL a listen with Carl Jung and Dark Link in mind. Let me know what you think afterwards.

[@jim0_o]

10:45 booo... cold take, people born after like 1998 never really had the chance to understand that game in its real context and see how much in the games series originated from that game. Its not that hard(except the music that is hard AF): I hadn't played it for like 15 years and finished it in 2 days after buying that anniversary Game and Watch and I don't think I'm THAT good, people just remember how hard the game was for the child they were when they played it. PS2: In my head-cannon this is the Zelda game that Dark Souls got the most inspiration from... ie. good game multiplication machine go brr.

[@Lemmings19]

Your content is absolutely excellent! Well done, and keep it up!

[@SnacksLP]

To be fair, the ocarina of time dark link, you could consider that it's also multiple dark links and not just the same dark link changing. Maybe the idea of self-doubt or a darker self can be construed in multiple ways, multiple versions that link could go bad. Each virtue has a vice as its opposite, and a hero has many virtues. As for why it's not a single embodiment of an anti-hero, maybe because vices are incompatible with one another, unlike virtues. Can't be an extreme "destroy everything" if you wanna connive, deceive and steal.

[@tylerlong5112]

Good to have you back.

[@PaddyDAngelo]

2:10 - third times the charm

[@waxblastt]

10:30 literally a skill issue. The only real BS is the stuff literally hidden that you need to progress but most early Zelda games (1 most of all) have this issue

[@ababin3]

What is the piano arrangement of the Ocarina of Time title screen that starts at 29:44 - what do I search in KZbin or Apple music to listen to it? I just did a KZbin search and there are so many covers, I couldn’t find the particular one you have in the video.

[@dudeskeela]

there actually are some examples of flawless heroes written successfully in fiction. the big one that comes to mind is Naussica from Ghibli's Valley of the Wind. despite being the film's protagonist, it is not Naussica who undergoes the Hero's Journey, but the world around her. great video btw! glad i stumbled onto your channel :)

[@BabyKobeeee]

Damn I just found your channel like a week ago and thought you quit KZbin 😂😂

[@Lykoz.]

13:54 Why did you use footage from the Nintendo switch version that has no water reflection whatsoever?

[@ryanthomason6796]

There is also Hollow link from Hyrule warriors: age of calamity which is a bit of a weird one though

[@jamesmiles1359]

Anyone know the first song in the video? I know it's a piano cover of a Mega Man tune but don't know the name

[@megaunderflow4076]

Holy shit! Dude, I'm genuinely hyped as hell, haha. Finally, *someone* gives an in-depth talk a on this character. So glad I subbed to this channel lol

[@verihimthered2418]

I'm starting to think link was originally a dark link.

[@Peasham]

Am I the only one who thinks this dude sounds exactly like NitroRad?

[@AngelofGrace96]

That was so interesting! I loved hearing the philosophy behind shadows. I think the fact that link can face and fight off his inner demons so often and continue forwards without flinching is why he truly is the hero of courage

[@gourdlord3064]

Which game is that around 9:50? Skyward Sword?

[@arthurhsu9111]

9:52 10:12 26:31 One shadowy sandwich incoming.

[@danjbundrick]

I always thought of Dark Link as being what was left over when the Triforce of Courage drives out all the fear, evil, and double-mindedness of Link to create the hero he is.

[@loganhouseman7202]

Dark Link? More like, Dark STINK! That is just part of my dark twisted sense of humor.

[@googledoxxdmebruh6283]

Link: hut hut ugh oof HA!!! Me: I never knew morality was so many shades of grey. So easy is it to lose your way on your quest to do good. Thank you for this lesson Link.

[@GuilhermeSalieri]

I just love the way you put some extra attention in this videos. Mentioning Joseph Campbell was indeed a good start. Great video again! I'm not a big fan of Zelda, but the analysis is compelling. Edit: You even used Carl Jung. What a complete thesis. (Also, epic creepy arts selected. The "How They Met Themselves" explains a lot of what you want to show us).

[@user-eb8bi5fb1d]

Glad to see you back ghost! Hope you’re doing well buddy. Your content is fantastic as always, keep it up man! 🤙🏽

[@FinallyAlone]

Link: "I finally found you faker!" Dark link: "faker!? You're compering yourself to me? You're not even godd enough to..." link: I'll make you eat thise words!"

[@roseannaruthlynnewyman3123]

@SgtWolf-fs2lc nice Sonic Adventure 2 reference

[@MisogynyMan]

I think I like the idea of Dark Link being completely black. Not just a darker version of Link, but the complete absence of anything. This is the first time I see Cia and JOWSER.

[@user_Z-]

ooooooo you said a bad word at 2:42!!! demonetized!!

[@dasenase]

I always felt Dark Link is a compelling character that holds significant symbolic meaning within the realm of Legend of Zelda franchise. As an embodiment of the protagonist, Dark Link acts as a powerful metaphor for the importance of I just made all this up and I don't think the developers had any meaningful intent behind the character, it's just a fun concept for a video game. Touch grass.

[@warlordofbritannia]

Dark Link? More like Gamer Link

[@Camo1177]

After watching this, it kinda made me wish the Phantom Ganon fights in TotK had been Dark Link fights, or at least have certain story Phantom Ganons (ie Deku Tree and Hyrule Castle fights) be replaced with Dark Link. Having a full ‘Dark Triforce’ of Demon King Ganondorf, Puppet Zelda and Dark/Gloom Link would have been so cool.

[@DerNomade1871]

I know you will most likely not see this comment, but I absolutely love your impression of m'aiq the liar, to me it's very spot on, and very well done, also I just absolutely love your lore videos on villans and heros

[@inigomontoya4032]

Ok... In the tears of the kingdom, there is no dark Link... But there's a "Phantom Link". He's a hidden boss for those who can find him and it's Ganon as Link with a skull face, similar to phantom Ganon.

[@xtcverse4370]

Wake up babe, the new ghostcharm just dropped

[@emmetteckstein398]

My favourite form of dark link is ravio from link between worlds. I love that the Lorule version of link is not an evil entity but instead a hero without courage, the polar opposite of link, it blew my mind back when I was 12 playing it because I had always hoped of learning more about dark link. Ravio isn’t evil, he’s just the hero of his world without his triforce. So good

[@Nukinator]

Every Link gankster until Dark Link ends up shanking Ganondorf before he does. Imagine a game where your doppel is constantly in your face and you've got ganondork pulling his shit again only for Dark Link to be the real villain at the end of it. would need a hell of a writer as baseline as it is would just be fairly generic.

[@AlexReyn888]

23:25 "twin peaks" season 2 ending

[@silverthehero1295]

As a kid, I couldn’t defeat Dark Link in OoT in a fair fight, so I would just cheese him with repeated Din’s Fire.

[@thegreatjzargona1904]

This channel is so immensely underrated. I don’t know how you don’t have more subscribers.

[@17nero44]

Oh fellas, it’s gonna be a good day. Especially when you’re getting back into Zelda.

[@TehOriginalApple]

Great video as always, would love to see one on Shodan!

[@NeroTheDarklord]

While calling dark link an empty puppet without personality does potentially make sense, we have to keep in mind that he completely mimics Link, down to being mute and attacking on sight without restrain. If we judge dark link to be no personality at all, we might have to do the same with Link. Or perhaps the opposite is the case. Maybe, much like Link, dark link just keeps his thoughts to himself and is very prone to action. Like with Link, the extent of dark links personality is an enigma, as for the most part, we only get to see the function and purpose these beings embody. Not their inner thoughts and feelings

[@adrianscorch]

The darkness in us is a like fire. Keep it in the oven, and it can create all kinds of beautiful things that people will love. If you let it out of the oven, it’ll destroy all you love. For me, my darkness is anger. I’ve done some crazy shit while angry, especially deployed in Afghanistan. But it’s also embarrassed me and hurt others. Our inner darkness is like a gun. Only point it at what you intend to hurt.

[@7F0X7]

Dark Link represents the overwhelming majority of the Zelda fan base. Am I wrong?

[@r0b0m1r0]

Our shadow. To trust or not to trust. We are who we are until we are who we don't want to be. Don't let anyone change you. Be you for all of your remaining life. Only then will you truly be your true self. Peace!-)

[@OtherMomo]

In Zelda 2 and OOT, they definitely both were trials set for the future hero

[@OtherMomo]

....wow I never even knew about that street pass function in LBW

[@SPFLDAngler]

Did anyone else leave their N64 on the title screen of OoT just to listen to the music? or was it just me.

[@deez4433]

In conclusion Dark link is just Boba fett. He shows up, looks cool then dies.

[@Bigpunz67]

When I was a kid I wasn’t allowed to have an Xbox or PlayStation but we had a nes I played Zelda 2 pretty much every day. That game was so hard I never finished it but it was the most fun game I had so I played it till I raged every day lol

[@JapanFreak2595]

My favorite Dark Link is the one from Twilight Princess manga. Won’t get into details, but that Dark Link is peak.

[@maximillionroivas3893]

I said it before and I'll say it again: *THERE NEEDS TO BE A ZELDA SPINOFF STARRING DARK/SHADOW LINK*

[@johnwebb4499]

In the Final Battle, Link fights himself ! Haha just kidding

[@lordchancellorhatton1910]

Nietzsche said, “you yourself will always be the worst enemy you can encounter; you yourself lie in wait for yourself in caves and forests.” In this case, the Water Temple.

[@NFS0038]

I havent played Zelda a lot but kinda crazy that dark link was so understated in the games, but holds a big spot in the general community's attention. Contrast that to dark Samus for instance, where the lore is a lot deeper and the character really functions as the main antagonist across three whole games. Dark Samus took all the way up until Smash Ultimate to make an appearance to the wider public outside of 3D Metroid.

[@ZebraOnYourNose]

Interesting, now this is one I certainly did not expect in the slightest

[@genesisdos1968]

My mind is inclined to focus on the timing of the dark link apparition. I even wonder if other characters within the universe are meant to see these specters. Could the battle in Zelda II have been one last desire to take all of the power of the collected artifacts and make a world bending to one's personal desires? And was it the good and honor forged in struggle that subdued the lesser impulse as the physical body of link reached for the power needed first, and not the power desired?

[@megakiller999]

I really hope Link's afflicted arm in the new game becomes dark link. That would be so dope.

[@levilee207]

You've got such a goldmine with this channel. I was worried you'd abandoned it. You have a great, neutral tone and you don't try to use an insufferable entertainer cadence. I'm glad you're back, dude. Here's hoping for much more content on the way

[@bbbbbbb51]

The tone & cadence is huge. So many put on the narrator or newscaster voice & I'll never understand why. Ghost has a decent voice, but a great delivery. Some moments feel added off the cuff & the rest just feels natural.

[@LockStockand2Barrels]

Hell yeah. I mean this with all respect and from a place of genuine love for your content. Make videos faster lol I’ve listened to all your videos multiple times. The Arthas - Lich King combo is a masterpiece

[@placeholder2586]

Ghostcharm "We have a very interesting dark link in a link between worlds" Me "Yes time for my boy Ravio!" Ghostcharm "STREETPASS"

[@demikus]

It would be a fairly short episode, but an NPCpedia on Ravio would be dope

[@karenritter2574]

The ultimate opponent to defeat will always be yourself. Love what Dark Link represents in the franchise.

[@cosmalade]

the Four Swords manga also does a really good job of giving Shadow Link a role and a personality

[@lucikens666]

Yess 😂. And like how he just wanted a friend.

[@Doktario_Mystario]

15:50 Dark Link reminds me alot of Meta Knight hes "not" your enemy but fights you to see if you're strong enough

[@16ktsgamma]

Only in some games. Meta Knight did want to take over Dreamland because they were lazy.

[@Doktario_Mystario]

@@16ktsgamma yes but even then hes the nicest villain of the Kirby franchise