VILLENEUVE: HOW CAN VERSTAPPEN BE THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME? F1 News

[@steveneiffel8227]

The years in which Merc dominated, Alonso said he only watched f1 for Max. He was the entertainer/challenger. That pretty much sums up Max impact of the sport. Either he was generating new rookie records, forcing fia stewards to rethink rules and pushing race leaders hard for their win OR he won the race himself. GOATs do that. For sure one of the greats... that is not only simply statistics and records...just count the years Max wasnt news... precisely.

[@GaadhiMahendra]

During the merc era, there's literally nothing else, Max's raw ambition taking the car to places further than expected and maximising every opportunity.

[@pranc236]

@@steveneiffel8227 absolutely, for some reason brazil 2019 sticks out. Max just refused to be denied and from then on we can count his mistakes on one hand.

[@bakker071]

Austin 2015, fourth in a Torro Rosso at 17 years old…

[@annabee75]

Max might be a top 3 GOAT already but we can only judge him after he retired and it’s all just subjective.

[@JimJempson]

@@steveneiffel8227 great point. I was so bored of F1 until Max arrived…it was evident on day one he was different and he’s simply got better and better. He’s so edgy and the anti hero almost but it all plays in his favour and I for one as a Brit can look beyond the majority of deluded British press- he’s amazing and the only driver that comes close on that grid is Alonso himself.

[@Bladel1965]

Villeneuve was also the loudest one to call out Red Bull for putting Verstappen in a Torro Rosso at the age of 17. He was proven wrong then and he didn't learn any lesson. Regarding the GOAT, from the 50 years I've been able to watch F1 I would say Senna, Schumacher and Verstappen are close contenders. Just below that drivers like Prost, Hamilton and a handful of others. The top 3 share the abilities in difficult circumstances, winning in a less optimal car, ruthlessness, a focus on driving and hating all the fuzz around it . That's what I like to see, so it's definitely my personal bias. In general, I do believe it's hard to compare different era's, but I'm also convinced that any new generation in any sport outperforms the old generation. That's simple progress. From better training, improved science and knowledge on personal fitness, strength and what they eat, etc. In the 70's drivers would step out of the car and light a cigarette. That's also why all world records are temporary. Why should F1 be different. I don't think the Fangio, Clark, Senna or Schumacher of their time would be as far in front on today's grid, if they even could make it there.

[@johnpoulter]

Good comments bladel. Maybe Villeneuve has a little chip on his shoulder eh.

[@Stantube1000]

Very well said Sir

[@GrizeldaOConnor]

I used to detest naughty Max but have seen the light and respect his mind blowing skills and supremacy.

[@Mbartel500]

Max is the GOAT...greatness is when someone does something incredibly difficult and makes it look easy. Greatness is performing routinely at a level that no one else can reach. Greatness isn't the will to win, it's the refusal to lose. Greatness is The Flying Dutchman.

[@Čangrizavi_Cinik]

Like Michael Schumacher?

[@Mbartel500]

@ yes…

[@johnpoulter]

I'm with Niki Lauda who said 'driver of the century'. That's a great driver who accepts, admired and respects genius. Brazil 2016 was a masterclass. 2021 was perhaps the greatest year. Brazil 2024 was not a masterclass, it was on another level.

[@givemeabreak8784]

To be honest Max won races with and without the best car on the grid and we have to see the hall picture. Wet , dry and mixed weather also.

[@metalpiston1212]

i thought this season would be enough to shut haters up. But apparently haters gonna hate and they'd rather be delusional than admit that he's up there with the greatest in this sport.

[@bean7750]

villeneuve was the first hating on max when he joined the f1 at the start of his career. No surprise here. btw who is Villeneuve?

[@permanentlybored195]

he was hating when he joined redbull aswell he a fulltime hater after his other jobs didn't workout

[@smobach]

To me Villeneuve will always be a hero demolishing his car in Eau Rouge on a bet with Zonta to take it flat out..... stepping out, running for his T-Car.

[@JC-lu4se]

Who is Villeneuve? Well a former WC in F1 for starters. BTW, who are you??

[@bean7750]

@@JC-lu4se I know who he is, but he is a nobody to judge other drivers. Villeneuve is one of the biggest around in f1, thats it. So who is he?

[@junyjaxkson7866]

@@JC-lu4se He's more famous now talking about Max then people remerber his driving!!

[@jaja8022]

Max is the best i have seen. That includes Schumacher and Hamilton. Cant judge Senna

[@Cameron-Cc]

Uffff. SLH and Max are close in their primes. Very close.

[@ehsanmalik2954]

​@@Cameron-CcMax miles ahead of prime LH. He is in the category of MSC of 94 to 01.

[@jaja8022]

@@Cameron-Cc probably yes, but the beauty of formula 1 is that we never know

[@stever2583]

@@jaja8022 But we do know... Computer science has literally tested car vs car / driver vs driver = Max is not in the top ten.

[@stever2583]

@@ehsanmalik2954 Max is miles ahead of everyone in the danger to other drivers on track. That makes Him nothing but a liability and menace - not skilled. Just Like Michael - did anything for the win fake crash, impeding others, deliberately crash into others ( That is not the Domain of a GOAT candidate, it is the domain of a dangerous and unethical Clown!) Just like Little Jos. F'n brits thinking you know more than every one... That was 100 years ago matey!

[@breathofawareness7903]

For me some of the greatest are Max, Schumacher, Hamilton and Senna. I cannot comment on Fangio as that is before my time. So I never actually saw him drive. Alonso is also super gifted but a bit unlucky with the cars he has driven over his career. But for me the most talented out of all of them is Max... I have considered him the greatest for a while now... Even though he has not won the most titles... That kid is special. Him and Senna both have that FEEL for the car where they can just drive it on the absolute limit round after round... They get in this zone and just do stuff non of the other drivers can...Their talent is otherworldly...

[@Cameron-Cc]

Very good points breath. Very very well made

[@arlobubble3748]

I think Schumacher's slightly higher on the list than Max, them both being very similar drivers. But we haven't seen the last of Max so that could change.

[@berthobo3912]

You gave em precise my opinions , even about senna and alonso, and also fangio clarc etc , exactly my statements and my opinion's😂😂

[@pranc236]

I like max and senna but any of the people you named are good choices. Even add prost and lauda. I can tell you jacque is not on that list. 😂

[@AlfredoVaz]

😂😂😂 so true

[@guneytopal1713]

Villeneuve is a 1 time winner so why would he be in the GOAT debate? You’d need atleast 3 to be in the conversation.

[@pranc236]

@@guneytopal1713 less to do with how many WDC’s he won and more to do with the masses not saying “what about jacque?” You just dont hear that. Many would probably put his father gilles over jacque and gilles never won one. Personally i think prime kimi is a better shout for a one time wdc winner. Final results do matter but ppl are looking at more than that.

[@guneytopal1713]

@ Gilles Villeneuve is miles ahead of his son. He would’ve most likely been a champion if it weren’t for his passing

[@pranc236]

@@guneytopal1713 i agree

[@JohnKuhles1966]

To me, Max Verstappen is The Goat of all Goats, and he has so many years ahead to go even beyond that! ... I followed Max long before he was racing F3 and F1

[@louisbeerreviews8964]

No Lewis is the only goat not max keep dreaming kid

[@Vic-f6k]

@@louisbeerreviews8964 The only times HAM beat Max was when Max was 23 or younger - in a rocketship - having won 7 titles in a 7-time WCC car - that's it - 2 gift wins since Abu'21 - F1 ordered Max to hold up and let HAM win at Silverstone '24 as a going away present - and the one they stole from Georgpedo - hardly GOAT criteria 🥱

[@stevenvanduijvendijk]

Would have loved to see Fangio in action, been watching F1 for 31 years, for now Max is definately amongst the best i've seen, but he's the total package, race craft, reading the race, knowing the regulations and seeking it's boundaries.

[@ji5393]

I highly doubt Fangio would be fit enough to drive a F1 car, let alone coping with all the G forces.

[@JC-lu4se]

@@ji5393 Well I think a modern Fangio would have got himself fit enough. Pretty silly to compare the physical attributes like that. Let's look at wins/starts. 1: Juan Manuel Fangio - 47.06% 2: Alberto Ascari - 40.63% 3. Jim Clark - 34.72% 4: Max Verstappen - 30.10% 5: Lewis Hamilton - 29.75%

[@AlertConsument-py6te]

@@JC-lu4se oversimplifying the stats. There's MUCH more to it than only break it down to simple equations.

[@Stantube1000]

He won two of his four titles(2021 and 2024) not having the fastest car, and even in 2022 Ferrari was on average faster. Is it enough? Have Fangio, Senna, Clark, Schumacher or Hamilton won more titles not driving the best car ? Max had the outright best car for a season and a half (from Spa 2022 till China 2024) of his whole career of 10 years, but managed to win 62 Grand Prix and 4 Championships. Is THAT enough? Still not? What is greatness exactly then? How can you define it? So, he might be the greatest, might be not, I don't know how any of you define greatness. What I do know for sure though is that he is the best, the most skillful F1 racer of all time. and I have absolutely no doubts about that.

[@chiss4181]

The cars were fairly equal in 2021, plus the "Masi tax," Ferrari was not faster on average in 2022. In 2024, he had the fastest car for the first seven races. Even after that, the car was fairly even with Mclaren for a lenghty period.

[@guneytopal1713]

2022 RedBull was fastest for the majority of the season, 2023 RedBull was fastest throughout the entire season, 2024 RedBull was fastest until Miami when they were told to change their car. 2021 is the only time I’d say Max won while the Merc was faster overall (though a slight difference in pace).

[@renevanderschuur4811]

thank you

[@christopherhambleton9701]

Sir Jack Bramham. 3 times world champion and the only driver to win a championship in his own car. Michael, Ayrton and Max are the best I've seen in 37 years watching F1. But honestly, it's whoever you think it is. There's no wrong answer.

[@Switll71]

Some people confusing winning with greatness. Jim Clark won lots of races in a stupidly unreliable car but fails in comparison to Lewis, does that mean he is worse than Hamilton that won 99% of his races in one of the best cars on the grid ???? Don't get me wrong as Lando showed us this year, its not just getting in the car and win and Lewis deserves respect for sure. There are just way too many variables to call in different eras of F1, the closest off course is Verstappen & Lewis. My reason for why i think Max has the edge though is Max has won 10 times and finishing over 40 times on the podium From 2016 -2020 and all that wins was in the 3rd/4th fastest car on the grid !! Lewis is really really fast in a good car but he struggles in a car when it doesn't fit him as we seen in the past 3 years. It takes a enormous amount of skill to win in a F1 car regardless but there is a big difference winning in the fastest car and winning in a 3rd/4th best car, and anyone that denies that Max showed his greatness this year is just plain blinded by hate! The greatest athletes got there status not for winning when all was good, they won when times where tough and against all odds!!!

[@frdml01]

I'm Dutch and always cheering for Max and reveling in his displays of excellence. But I could not point to "the" GOAT of F1. How to compare all these generations of drivers in generations of cars? How do you compare Verstappen to one Jim Clark for instance? but he definitely is in the realm of a select group of GOATs.

[@henrikv5410]

Max Verstappen and it ain't close.

[@1catalbot]

Never thought I would have to attempt to choose between talents like SLH and MV within the same era. Unreal gift from the gods...but I digress.

[@koosgijsman]

You’re right. Social media made it into a toxic and sometimes racial war.. I just appreciate that we’re watching history being made..

[@ferryspeksnijder1972]

No disrespect.. Max Verstappen set a recordbreaking record of breaking records in one season... in his one truly dominating season so far.. And in about 3 seasons broke a dozen "all time" records along the way.. one of which is called "holding the P1 position in the Drivers World Championship ranking for the longest consecutive weeks".. no small one Lewis Hamilton had about 7 seasons in a OP rocketship to break the same records......... And never even got close.. I'm not discussing GOATiest of GOATS... But.... Just saying.. Having the most titles doesn't say everything..

[@worfoz]

How to compare "a recordbreaking record of breaking records" with anything? I wouldn't know.

[@WewillbeFreeinlightandPeace]

Max is the greatest of all time without a doubt

[@Ryan_Archmjr242]

😂

[@arlobubble3748]

As a big max fan, I think you're mistaken. He's up there for sure and we might not have seen the best of him yet though.

[@chaysmile846]

BS😂

[@Kevvi-xp4be]

Max was probably the first driver in history to be in GOAT convo before winning his first championship. Cemented by now.

[@mdjestah]

I think max has the potential to put himself at the top but no atm I'd have Max at 4th ....

[@Timocoh]

Cam, you are so right! So right! Moreover, Max is 27 years old and his prime will come 28-32. If he has a competitive car the next 4 years, he will have 8 WC titles and there will be no more discussion anymore. If he stays long enough in F1 he will get 10 for sure. He will break all records. I am saying this for years, but the anti-Max lobby (mainly Lewis fans) was too harsh. But greatness will put itself on top eventually...

[@TheJolanda01]

tHEY AL TALK ABOUT MAX,BUT REALLY WANTED TO BE MAX🤣

[@pizza8031]

😂😂😂😂😂 my man can’t race

[@twanheijkoop6753]

As a younger dutchie iam of course biased towards Max, but from everything ive heard and seen i still hold great respect towards Jim Clark for what he was able to achieve and how many races he attended all over the world without the luxury of modern travel speeds. Would love to see Max compete in other disciplines aswell since he seems to be competitive in any car he drives in the sim.

[@ND-ud1qe]

Verstappen is 27 years old, has more than 1/2 records of LH, has 10 consecutive wins, (LH has 5), this shows his consistency and the fact he extracts everything from a great car! he is beating every record imaginable, has won first race in 2016 at 18 with ice man Ferrari on his tail, when lauda said he was the talent of the century, same year he pulled Brazil 2016 in the rain, has won races every year since then despite the worse car, he is ruthless in any weather condition and demonstrates the killer instinct that schumacker and senna had. He has shows he drives in any pressure or condition, look at battles in 2021, and P17 to P1 in Brazil. So literally what else people want? Yes he will beat all records by a significant margin and much more even before retirement age, is that what people are waiting for?

[@clairdillon1762]

It is almost about Dutch Nationalism with you and that if people do not fawn over or genuflect to Verstappen then “they” (all other fans of all other nationalities) are they enemy. You are a Red Bull and a fan of Verstappen. Good on you. I personally think that the best driver on the grid (yet in a terrible car) is Spanish and, that this same driver is better than Verstappen or Hamilton. Unfortunately, he has made poor career choices, hence HIS poor statistics. That said, there are 19/20 drivers on the grid who are good-excellent. Do you drive in one of the cars?

[@MCAzzarati]

He clearly loves a headline, I never liked Max but this year he has entered the GOAT conversation 💯. Thank you Cameron the content 👑 Bring us home 🍻🇦🇺

[@AKA001]

Jacques still isn’t over the fact that his home circuit is named after his dad… he will always be the son of…

[@sultanoftippoo3857]

You mean the guy (unlike his father) who won a Formula 1 world drivers championship? Think he’s somewhat comfortable in his own ability and results in life. His only regret probably being he lost his father at a young age.

[@Adwnpinoy310]

Schumi has 7 and never lost to a teammate in his peak (prior to his first retirement). Hamilton lost to Rosberg. Can you argue with this take? Of course. If anyone was beyond a doubt the greatest, we wouldn’t have much of a discussion.

[@ND-ud1qe]

If you look at all comments here, pretty much seems like there is a clear agreement in who is the goat. At least among Cameron channel fans.

[@AKA001]

Dad was a decent driver, mum was a decent racer, sister is a capable driver…. Max has all the right ingredients and he’s cooking a up a storm…

[@GeorgeGrier-v7q]

Excluding the old timers that had to change gears with the gear stick, max is away out in front of today’s f one drivers the best of all time in that respect.

[@hanstubben]

Max is arguably the best of all times yes! I agree with Jeremy, and I´m following F1 about the same time as Jeremy too, we have seen some good drivers com along. You have to take in account that in 2023, his most dominant car, was like mere one second quicker between the first and tenth in Q3. In Lewis´s dominant era that was over two seconds and in Senna´s era the McLaren´s were about 3,5 seconds quicker than the car tenth on the grid.

[@guneytopal1713]

Senna has Prost as a teammate. That is a tougher teammate than all of the best attributes of Max’s teammates put together

[@Wmeester1971]

@@guneytopal1713 True. However that gets you nowhere if you want to compare verstappen to them.

[@hanstubben]

@@guneytopal1713 you kind of confirm my point, they were the two in the fastest car and were able to beat eachother. The others in the far slower cars were not.

[@Peter.48]

Maximillian Verstappen is the greatest driver I have ever seen, I follow Formule1 since 1960 👊

[@johnpoulter]

I'm similar era to you and he's the greatest I've seen, too.

[@AndreiGrigorean]

It's Max Emillian Verstappen. His first name is just Max.

[@johnpoulter]

@@AndreiGrigorean Actually, it's Max Emillian Goat Verstappen.

[@frankwesterweel4649]

Cameron you are exactly giving the right response to JV.

[@bobkeul7682]

Well Lewis is great, but isnt a Senna, Schumacher or Max. Lewis his overtaking is not sublime, and he isn't proactive on strategy as he is more dependent on them. Also in the wet, (despite his 2008 race) his teammate Button always won in wet conditions so he isnt a rainmaster as what Sky sports portraited. Rules weren't bend due to Lewis, as for the other 3 there were bend, for me he is a very boring on the track. Lewis had luck in switching teams, he lost from Button, Rosberg, Massa, Russell now probably twice. So Lewis lost from teammates in also qualifying and points. Points and races are meaningless, qualifying is something you can compare in percentages over a season. Max never lost to any teammate in qualifying. Lewis did, several times! Max can win a championship with a less car or now with the third best car on the grid. Lewis has difficulties to compete without the fastest car on the grid to be honest.. Lewis consistency is better than average on the grid, but again Max showed that his consistency on a complete other level, it beyond and even ridiculous!

[@midas7394]

Is Max an F1 GOAT? So far, he has proved to be worthy of being considered as an F1 GOAT. Here is some of Max's abilities that makes him possibly the best F1 driver in history: 1) Handle any pressure and adversity with ease. 2) Work in unison with with his team to extract the maximum performance out of his car in any circumstances. 3) Focus on winning the race, no matter what the current racing circumstances are. 3) Pick the write time to overtake safely. 4) Pace the race to win without over stressing his team & car. 5) Make his car extra wide to block anyone trying to pass him. But ..... Max's most important asset is that he has over all the other potential F1 GOAT's is that he has not changed his honest but focused approach to F1 racing, working with the FIA and the media.

[@killianpotworoska3096]

It's so stupid to deny it! That boy has been an absolute sensation since his debut. As a young man he literally showed Lewis every corner of the track. And was almost the only driver who, as soon as he could, took on Lewis's all-powerful Mercedes! To finally dethrone him and beat him in an inferior car! Max Verstappen is a wonderful phenomenon, look how that boy has manifested himself and now has 3 world titles in his pocket. He's like Messi.... you can keep denying it but it's completely pointless, with Max you just get what you see, a polished diamond!

[@ronaldderooij1774]

Just a tip that will improve your life: Ignore the comments of Villeneuve.

[@Degonyte]

Big up that you actually fact-checked him on the supposed 'quote'. In his original quote, Clarkson left exactly the margin of doubt that Villeneuve pleaded for in his column. But Villeneuve just to ignore that so he could cook up another hot take for some headlines.

[@rz5090]

Better to go with Greatest of their time. It’s super hard to judge because different cars and different times. The younger generations have way more exposure and means at a younger age. Have to admire em all, they all crazy!!😂😂

[@HansdeHeer]

There can never be one single GOAT. It's impossible to compare different eras, different cars, different rules and so on and so on. Fangio, Jim Clark, Stirling Moss, Niki Lauda, Ayrton Senna, Michael Schumacher, Lewis Hamilton, Max Verstappen. They were (are) all fantastic drivers who put a mark on their era.

[@elecovanrenss1352]

nicky lauda said max verstappen is a generational talent. one you see in a hundred years. nicky is not just a 3 times champ, he also someone who constantly keep up with new technology etc. helping mercedes etc. you really think toto wants someone like villenuve or damon hill walking around?

[@duncani3095]

Not only are his results consistent and always maximized, he does so without wrecking his car. Seriously, can anyone point to the weekend he last binned it into a wall? I can't.

[@boozelala]

As big as a Max fan as I am, for me the absolute GOAT is Juan Manuel Fangio. Winning in those cars, with no safety at all, so many times... No one comes close. Could be twon different sports comparing the eras, but as long as it's called F1, Fangio for Nr1.

[@tarikviaer-mcclymont5762]

I gained respect for that era when I saw the "Ferrari" movie. The lack of safety for both the driver and the spectator was horrifying

[@HV71851]

In the present era, Max for sure. But we must not forget that Fangio won five championships, and with different marks. And if I recall, one year he drove two different ones, and still won. I doubt that any driver today, if contracts would allow it, could accomplish that feat.

[@JS-ll8nk]

We need a Max v Lewis video comparison: WDC's - in regards to the difficulty of winning each WDC, how strong the car versus competitors was, WCC position, in-season records made, record of losses to rivals and Teammates. Driving skills comparison: Wet/dry/changing conditions, qualifying, race pace, race management (in-race calls/strategy), Tyre management, overtaking, defending, race craft. Mentality comparison: Consistency, aggression, commitment to winning, knowledge of rules/using to advantage, delivering results under pressure/adversity.

[@christianyanga5992]

Villeneuve point is that you can only be the real goat of your era ,because different eras are just so different that we will never really be able to judge or assess objectively who is the All Time Greatest.

[@nomenestomen8406]

Villeneuve also throws Lewis abit under the bus. It sounds to me that he is jealous on both Max and Lewis tbh.

[@mrkylerule]

MAX IS THE GOAT! at 4 time WDC is the GOAT. Dont need 7 WDC titles

[@overnightgrowth]

I'm just loooking forward to another ten years of verstappen, if he remains passionate about racing until he gets to hamilton's age then we can have the conversation again, in the mean time i'm enjoying all these legends race.

[@warrenjoubert4027]

You asked for our personal opinions- so here it is- and no one should get angry with me cause you asked for it. Of the ones I've watched in my lifetime as a F1 fan- Schumacher, Max, Hamilton, Prost, Senna.

[@michealduffus3154]

I can tell you now that if Max had Lewis’s record it would be a different story but because it’s Lewis stone throughout the sport has been dumb down for the sake of one man with questionable wins starting with 2021 he is a little bit like Trump doesn’t matter what he does he always be the best and he always win the help of the media and the hype Lewis got to worry was without all of that good honest hard racing without all the controversy that Max brings with him

[@merlitaalvesm2471]

Max is the greatest I have ever watch , his a very complete driver , he has a high level of skills ,❤ for me his best

[@IAmKry]

2021 and soon 2024 are far from the easiest championships. Even when Perez was at his best in 2022 and 23 he was nowhere near the wingman Lewis ever had. JV sounds more and more like a jealous child with comments like this. Greatest of all time is an impossible thing to claim, sure, but that's not even what Jeremy was saying. What a goober.

[@IAmKry]

In short Max is no doubt one of the greatest talents we've seen, period.

[@andrewwright4195]

​@IAmKry I watched since 94 nothing like Michael schumacher

[@IAmKry]

@@andrewwright4195 What are you talking about? Who said anything about Schumacher. But you're right, Max wouldn't stop his car in the middle of the track on Monaco to screw over the rest of the grid.

[@andrewwright4195]

@@IAmKry Michael is the goat

[@IAmKry]

@@andrewwright4195 Whatever you say chief. No one said he wasn't. lol

[@darwinliving]

The 2 probably greatest didn't get to show their full potential unfortunately. Mr Jim Clarke and Ayrton Senna yet Mr A Prost seems to be forgotten. Max is absolutely one of the greatest without a doubt.

[@Cameron-Cc]

Great point. Very well made. 🥹

[@shaunstevens7464]

Max is on the round Rushmore but for me Lewis is the GOAT. But Max IS an unbelievable driver

[@thedutchhuman]

Strange, we never had these kinds of conversations about Lewis in the media who won 7 times year after year 🤔, and when Max or someone else came close he ''suddenly'' got problems with the tires or whatever, which was not the case, but lap after lap he still kept it up and won the race. But now that Max is heading towards 4 victories, breaking record after record, many complain that he wins ''every time'' and by that I mean the media, famous former racers AND the FIA. Winning is winning and there will be many years in which others can win. But hey, maybe Lando will win next year?...or Lewis in the Ferrari? the UK will be happy again....who knows! 🤷‍♂. But anyway the Media and former drivers should NOT interfere with racing and Max is a very good and smart racer, just like Lewis, Schumacher, Senna and many more who are at the top......(or were at the top). And one has better qualities than the other, right? Accept it if your favorite team did not win...

[@bjrnchrstn]

Never caught Villenueve say anything intelligent. Guess nothing changed.

[@steventheys6358]

max is the goat he is a full blood racing driver with mom and dad both being drivers

[@fastmclarencarlewisandseb]

Schumacher, Hamilton and Senna definetly top the sport. They have done dirty moves, but its a part of racing and when they race, its amazing. 🇩🇪🇬🇧🇧🇷

[@JS-ll8nk]

Max is the GOAT.

[@estellebensch2385]

MAX..... only Max❤

[@Jada17817]

Dear Cameron, Max never cares and wouldn’t ever think about this of himself. He likes to have fun with family, his dream of being world champion came true. The outside world talks about this. Max is down to earth and doesn’t care. He’s Dutch 😘

[@ruudvankaam1500]

Max is. After F1 he will go on to drive other racing classes, just to dominate them too. Put him behind a (virtual) wheel and the rest of the field is fucked.

[@mickelsmickle8668]

Just read jaques villeneuve comment he has a very valid point especially about different times and superior cars make bug difference you cant fault him

[@clean1566]

I used to hold JV in a lot higher esteem. That just all went away with what came out of his mouth! Should’ve kept it shut! Nice video, we’ll spoken!

[@jackechan1311]

I`m secretly hoping JV joins SkyF1 full-time.

[@GrizeldaOConnor]

No 😮😮😮

[@benobaars]

Why would Jos Verstappen do that?

[@boozelala]

@@benobaars Maybe forcefully via community service?

[@John-oo9xu]

Still waiting for the day max, lewis, charles and fernando race together in the same f1 car. Never gonna happen i quess😢

[@Cameron-Cc]

Wow! 🥹

[@50hansroz]

put them in a go-cart.. same outcome, Max wins

[@michamaszczyk5089]

​@@50hansroz Max has already beat Charles in go-carts before F3

[@madalinbpopa]

I'll go for Michael for now with Max a close second and I've been watching since 95. I'll just say this :Max is about to become a 4xWDC while driving only 2 constructors winning cars . Regardless of people thinking Perez is very bad he isnt , he's just decent and makes mistakes while driving a difficult car to drive . Hamilton had his fair share of decent only teammates , Kovalainen or Bottas, while winning the majority of his titles but the Merc cars were far superior . 9 constructors winning cars Lewis had. far far better equipment than Max had at his disposal .

[@jeffreypostma6832]

Fangio, Moss, Clark, Lauda, Prost, Senna, Schumacher, Hamilton, Verstappen are all on my list

[@ronnyvanloon2728]

Max is the best ever.

[@marcvanamsterdam6109]

Thanks Cameron, for putting Villeneuve back into his place. I believe it’s all about jealousy of not having been able to possess and conduct a shred of Maximilian’s skills and performances while driving F1 yourself. It’s hard to admit that you are so far away from him. For the sour Damon Hill goes exactly the same. Keep it up brother, your videos are a pleasure to watch👍🏻

[@Pedro285]

They are all GOATs right. Cannot compare eras objectively so they are the best of their time.

[@elChirrinChirriondelDiablo]

As a Verstappen fan myself I say: In my eyes there is no goat, there’s no way to compare different eras, cars, regulations and etc…

[@Andre_The_Millennial]

My G.O.A.T is Der Kaiser, the man Mika Hakkinen simply referred to as "The Michael".

[@EntropicExergy]

The Michael has certainly rubbed off on Max, who got to say uncle to him back when he was such a young boy.

[@AlertConsument-py6te]

You mean Schummel Schummi???? LOL

[@GraemeMarshall-u7w]

When comparing max and Lewis you have to remember he got beaten by his teammate when Mercedes were dominating

[@kwesimctaire3783]

I don't understand why you guys are saying that Max car isn't dominant. Didn't he not had the the fastest car at the beginning of the season?

[@SleepySniffer]

no, perez is the true benchmark for the cars performance. Max makes that car look a lot better than it is.

[@sultanoftippoo3857]

@@SleepySniffer sorry Joe but having to step down from office & having entered the final stages of dementia has clouded your judgement! An F1 car can’t be driven beyond its limits which is why Max (not Sergio) is the performance benchmark for the Red Bull. Sure it dropped off its perch from Miami for a few races but was dominant at the start of the season and has been very competitive with the McLaren in the last few races. No doubt Max deserves to win this years WDC but across the season he’s had a competitive car.

[@kwesimctaire3783]

@@sultanoftippoo3857 agreed.

[@SleepySniffer]

@@sultanoftippoo3857 would lando win the WDC in the redbull? As you said I have dementia so I need help with the answer, thanks.

[@sultanoftippoo3857]

@@SleepySniffer OK Joe I’ll use little words so here we go; 1: Any car has a limit to its performance (beyond 100% the car is being over driven and will go slower than its optimum lap time) - still with me? 2: Max is able to drive the Red Bull as close to that 100%, certainly much closer than Perez and most likely Norris as well. In your younger years when you had your faculties you might remember a young man called Sebastian Vettel? In the same way Max could control his Red Bull better than anyone else today, so could Seb in his era. In short Adrian Newey designs cars that are very fast but only if driven by people who can adapt to drive them.

[@johnrhule3489]

I would have liked it if Villeneuve had stayed longer into F1 and proved that he could have won the championship more than once. Some drivers once they win it once they are finished with F1.

[@TechnicalUnderground]

In my heart I believe its Max ,but still for me its a Michael, so we will see in few years... What are we talking Cameron?

[@debi8494]

Statistically, Lewis is the goat!…

[@johnrhule3489]

Yeah, what is it about these one-time world champions? When I first watched F1 in 1992, Damon Hill, used to be the driver I used to support. When Hamilton came along oh my gosh. Even Alonso must have been shocked to see Hamilton not settling for second when both of them were racing for Maclaren.

[@erikAASLT]

Senna. Personality, passion, skill & talent.

[@SBKPLUMBING]

Not sure if it’s hating. A commentary opinion can be unbiased, albeit unfavourable. Regardless of how many world championships he has or has not won, he has a lot of experience in F1 and his contribution should be welcome even if not agreed with. Besides, this is the reason you have so many listeners. Because of unbiased commentary and impartiality with your content. Your commentary on Max and Lewis has changed over late. However this doesn’t mean you are hating. It means you are doing your job. Commentary. Unfortunately, the recent departure of Damon Hill, prehaps for his Dick Dastardly comment and the Liberty Media Boss may lead to restrictions on commentators freedom. A very dangerous path I suggest. Who will go next. Nico Rosenberg. After all, he only won 1 world championship ? Oh and that was against Sir Lewis Carl Davidson Hamilton.

[@AbdicatesAbdicates-i1y]

See how fast the current drivers can lap in the old cars, the present day drivers are probably faster

[@hansevers]

You can't really discuss an F1 GOAT, every era is so different...

[@joshualai888]

I think this GOAT debate is pointless and has to stop. Can't really term as "of all time" when F1 is still running. We simply cannot justify this ever with different machineries, rules and regulations, different number of races and so on....

[@ignaciohayabusa8663]

This is a watse of time. To be in the GOAT debate you either win 7 WDC or beat current 105 Race win tally and 201 Podiums. We have literal nunbers for this Why are we counting if the very things we count stop mattering when judging who is the best? As is Max will march Vettel in WDCs so thats where he at. Why does he get GOAT status wheh he has yet to match the last Red Bull Champion in Driver Championships? Y'all could very well be preventing Max from being objectively the best by givijg accolades undeserved. The numbers are there. Win 7, get 105+. SIMPLE

[@zt2max]

Well the problem is that arguably stats can't decide talent-level. For example if what you are saying is true then Senna can't be considered which means you would be indirectly arguing that Senna was at fault for dying but how could he have prevented that? It seems very obvious that with the williams renault being dominant in 1994,95,96 and 97, Senna would have cleaned up and got at least seven titles. There is absolutely no reason to believe Senna would not have done that. So it isn't all about statistics, it's about considering the abilities of each driver in many things such as ability in the wet, qualifying, race-speed, tactical prowess, and yes, also statistics to some degree.

[@Wmeester1971]

Cherry picking is what everyone can do, esspecially if its in favor of your idol. By your metric Senna would not ever enter the GOAT discussion. Good luck in claiming that.

[@Wmeester1971]

@@Vic-f6k I was making the point that you have to be a 7WDC to be in the goat converstation. There are other metrics that are more usefull. Having a fast car protected by regulations and a weak teammate is looking good at your stats, but of course does not tell anything on how good one really is when everyone is in the same car.

[@bakker071]

Jacques got some Lando porridge virus?

[@Cameron-Cc]

Impossibly brilliant 🤣

[@sammoore3687]

No one will ever agree on the greatest of all time. However, I think people need to start realising max is the most complete driver we have ever seen. The man doesn’t have a weakness, and unlike other amazing drivers when they’ve had the best car. Max genuinely looked untouchable in 2023, he hardly makes any mistakes and even when thing don’t go his way (Brazil qualifying) he’s probably the only driver you could never rule out of competition, even if he’s down near last. And his consistency is hands down, the best we’ve ever seen. Even prime Lewis was prone to an off weekend or two

[@zt2max]

🤣"most complete driver ever?🤣

[@sammoore3687]

@ tell me another one who is then, or at least give a counter point. Sounds like ur just a hater with no reasoning. So go on, explain urself…

[@danmannl2800]

honourable mentions of great verstappen performances in 2024........ Austria qualifying (4 tenths quicker on a 4,2 km track with al lap time of 1m 04) , spa FP3 (1,4 seconds faster than anyone else, spa qualifying (0.6 seconds faster than number 2 leclerc )

[@christianyanga5992]

Villeneuve is right and Checo is average,end of the story!

[@clairdillon1762]

Villeneuve has more credibility than you do.

[@Cameron-Cc]

And what does this have to do with the price of bread clairdillon.

[@clairdillon1762]

@ I didn’t realize that you were hosting a baking program, Cameron. Villeneuve has more credibility than you. (In case you are confused, his commodity is less to do with grain, more to do with gasoline. Just in case you need that direction.)

[@clairdillon1762]

Quoting Cameron re Villeneuve: “You are hating sir, because your face can never go on the Mount Rushmore. Indeed, people will always compare you unfavourably to your dad.” Hilarious and WRONG. Jacques is on the “Mount Rushmore”, winning the wc in 1997. His dad, Gilles, was never on the “Mount Rushmore” as he was the runner up in the 1979 wc. “People will ALWAYS compare you unfavourably to your dad” What nasty uninformed planet are you on Cameron? I live in Canada and I have NEVER heard/read any such bs. There is nothing in international media either. What is the comparison? Were you a fan of Gilles? Watched him race, did you Cameron; hence your yardstick. Gilles is famous b/c he was a very good Canadian F1 driver who died. Perhaps when Peter is next on, you can ask him the names of people who “always compare…unfavourably” Jacques to Gilles. I can imagine the look that Windsor would give you. Stop making up stories. Last but not least, try to not delete this comment.

[@rezaahjappie6044]

Villeneuve has absolutely no credibility to rate greatness. He is the worst WDC in the last 40yrs. He belittles Ricc who still won a race in 21 and tge last time he won a race is in the Williams rocketship in 97 10yrs before he retired as a nobody!

[@clairdillon1762]

@@rezaahjappie6044 Man. lol. The “worst” since 1984. What about pre-1984 Rezaah? lol. In your previous post, you minimize the French Canadian driver’s WC as he was in a far superior car than Schumacher. It is driver + car = WC. Okay. Depending on which convenient logic you choose to stand behind, Verstappen 2022/23 only won due to the car, beating better drivers such as Alonso and Hamilton, who were in slower machinery. Is this your stance? If Norris had won the 24 WC, then, to your logic, it would be the car only? If Riccardo was so good, why did Red Bull not keep him? Horner and Marko fired him. On this channel, Peter Windsor has talked about how Riccardo left Red Bull for the money that Renault would give him and by doing so, he lost his “soul”. Horner said that Daniel “ran away from a fight”, yet you are blaming a commentator for Riccardo’s circumstances. Why? So many commentators questioned Riccardo blocking Liam from getting into an F1 car.. You can’t tolerate this criticism? (You should listen to Dutch or German F1 coverage and what they thought of Riccardo blocking the seat.) Last but not least, ALL drivers retire as SOMEBODY, be it Villeneuve or Riccardo or Vettel or Sargent or DeVries or ………….. You are an armchair quarterback, nothing more, who insults professional athletes. I don’t think that you would ever be in the premier league of any sport. My sense is Rezaah, that you use athletics as a way to vent your own dissatisfaction with your own circumstances.

[@AndreiGrigorean]

Max has only one weakness: he loses his head a bit when things don't go his way (e.g. Hungaroring 2024). That's it, otherwise he's the perfect racing driver, better than anyone before him.

[@Malc664]

No man, we don't know if they give both drivers the same car. Perez and all other team mates are not allowed to beat Max. We know Max can't race wheel to wheel, he has to push the other car off or crash.

[@jorgkuijt4735]

Some Dutch commentator was asked..: Was this the best drive of Max ever? Replie: You aint seen nothing yet...

[@--Maximillian--]

Thanks for another great & unbiased video mate! Max = the GOAT? Look at his career to date and what he's done for, and to F1, at barely 27 years of age. Max = the GOAT!

[@Cameron-Cc]

Thank you Maximilian. Far too kind. 🍻 I mean, he definitely looked like an all time great last race eh? 😂

[@FloatLikeABee]

Its Max.

[@peterpanousis8458]

You’ve turned into a Verstappen fanboy Cameron. One doth protest too much me thinks.

[@Cameron-Cc]

I'm merely an observer of excellence sir 🥹 Persecuted for it at the altar on partisanship. But I digress

[@sammoore3687]

Cope, learn to admire greatness instead of be sour about it twink

[@christianyanga5992]

And we got it that you’re in love with Max,I understand,he is phenomenal indeed,absolute LEGEND indeed …but don’t forget before…

[@johnrhule3489]

Jacques Villeneuve should know better. He's used to drive racing cars for years, in the US and here.

[@lolololalala8225]

I am Dutch, but Schumacher will always be the goat for me.

[@djopdam199]

Come on Cameron you can't say that about someone who has lost his dad in that way. Show some HUMANITY