Viltrox 135 vs Sony 135 vs Samyang 135 - Who Is The Best

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Mark Bennett's Camera Crisis

Mark Bennett's Camera Crisis

Күн бұрын

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@NorCal-yeti
@NorCal-yeti Ай бұрын
I have the Samyang 135 f1.8 and I am very pleased to say the least.
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Ай бұрын
It's a really great lens even BEFORE price is factored in
@gitithadani
@gitithadani Ай бұрын
It is an ergonomic lens & I love the rendering. I am not going to lug around a 1200+ gm lens for outdoor work. And with so much software possibilities the extra optics of the viltrox gives diminishing returns.
@parishino1
@parishino1 Ай бұрын
@@gitithadani Rokinon for me too...
@DustinAbbottTWI
@DustinAbbottTWI 7 күн бұрын
Hi Mark, well done comparison. Your findings are extremely consistent with my own.
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis 7 күн бұрын
Thanks, Dustin!! Yes, I noticed that as well. I have been sending people over to your comparison when they ask why the ISO's vary slightly in the comparison pics - thankfully you explained it it yours - haha,
@funtaril
@funtaril Ай бұрын
That face of determination during focus tests!
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Ай бұрын
The look of a true professional 😂
@sammyh9542
@sammyh9542 Ай бұрын
I recommend the samyang for anyone looking at a 135 1.8 it’s sharp light and priced well I love mine
@eokorie.photography
@eokorie.photography Ай бұрын
Definitively happy with my Samyang 135mm. It has been a great lens for me ever since I got it over 2 years ago. It has one feature which is invaluable for me as I shoot astrophotography and that is the Astro mode.
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Ай бұрын
@@eokorie.photography awesome to hear!!
@parishino1
@parishino1 Ай бұрын
Me too!!!
@julievegan
@julievegan Ай бұрын
Great review, I was patiently waiting for a minimum focusing distance comparison, it would be a great addition in future lens comparison reviews, great work though, thanks a lot!
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Ай бұрын
I will try to include it from now on
@Hobbies4Hire
@Hobbies4Hire Ай бұрын
Great job on the video Mark! Thanks for making it.
@ccudjoe89
@ccudjoe89 Ай бұрын
The samyang/ rokinon is def weathersealed. i got soaked in the rain with it andits still kickin strong. suprinsingly i had my non weathersealed samyang 50 f1.4 version 1 as well and it too is still kickin no issue
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Ай бұрын
great to hear!!
@ooharloo
@ooharloo Ай бұрын
I took my Samyang out in some moderate snow fall and didn't have any issues.
@BrandonMitchell-y1w
@BrandonMitchell-y1w 22 күн бұрын
Wow, this lens looks amazing. Third-party lenses are crushing it! I’d love to see TTArtisan challenge Viltrox in the telephoto space.
@Alex-y3w1p
@Alex-y3w1p 21 күн бұрын
This review sold me on the 135mm focal length! I’ve been experimenting with TTArtisan’s primes and might try this next.
@brettyg76
@brettyg76 Ай бұрын
When you were doing the focus tests, bobbing up and down, in and out of frame, I suddenly had visions of Sheldon Cooper (Big Bang Theory) in the classic scene of Leonard chasing Sheldon through the ball pit and Sheldon screaming “Bazinga” every time his head popped out of the balls🤣🤣🤣🤣
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Ай бұрын
😂
@alanaperture
@alanaperture 22 күн бұрын
Thank you for this educational comparison!
@pexarglobal
@pexarglobal Ай бұрын
Thanks Mark for your nice review ❤❤❤ You look even more handsome in our 2k display! 🤩🤩🤩
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Ай бұрын
🤣🤣
@AStCG1989
@AStCG1989 Ай бұрын
I’m confused the 135gm was Sonys sharpest prime a few months ago, barely tell the difference vs the plena. Now it’s noticeably softer than the viltrox? How does it stack up to the plena then?
@bradsimpson4899
@bradsimpson4899 28 күн бұрын
LOL....Don't hold your breathe while waiting for him to answer!!!
@MeocTuTaaa-m1l
@MeocTuTaaa-m1l 20 күн бұрын
There is one influencer in China tested 2 gm, one viltrox and one samyang with imatest. one gm is better than viltrox, then the other gm sample then sanyang. if the lens is in ideal condition gm should be the sharpest, but there is sampling variation, and some samples gets a little bit soft after years of use. Also, the viltrox lens is a sample for test from the manufacturer, there is evidence but it could be possible they send a better copy for test. The slight difference may not influence the photo in any practical term but you can find the difference when pixelpeeping
@bradsimpson4899
@bradsimpson4899 20 күн бұрын
2 weeks later we still don't have a response. I guess you shouldn't bring logic into an illogical discussion.
@bradsimpson4899
@bradsimpson4899 20 күн бұрын
I get your idea but this is only conjecture and way overreaching to come up with a logical explanation for an illogical conclusion. We'd love for him to respond to the original post which points out the nonsensical (probably money related) conclusions to the findings. I'll give you a thumbs up for the attempt though!
@AStCG1989
@AStCG1989 20 күн бұрын
@ the only thing in his defence is he’s never claimed the Sony 135 gm was the sharpest Sony lens. People like Christopher Frost and Dustin Abbot did. When I look at Christopher Frosts reviews, he’s by far more comprehensive in his tests than Mark. So we do have to take this for what it is, an advert with sensationalised click bait claims.
@neutrinostorm
@neutrinostorm Ай бұрын
Another great review of Camera Crisis!!! You ask and I will answer: Yes, I owned the Samyang lens a few months ago and I think it's a nice, cheap, almost perfect lens. The only issue I had was with the AF performance of my a6700. However, due to this particular issue, Samyang has released a new firmware. I had v03 on my lens. After the update via docking station (~25€ on eBay) the problem went away. I decided to buy the Samang instead of waiting for the Viltrox as I am a DxO user and the delay of the Viltrox lens modules in the Sony range was the point!
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Ай бұрын
Thanks for telling us your experience. It's a really great lens
@benicio1967
@benicio1967 Ай бұрын
Thorough review Mark. Thank you!
@MrChrissk
@MrChrissk 15 күн бұрын
May have already been said, but the focus ring doubles as the aperture ring if like my 35mm lens, that's what the M1 and M2 switch is for, so if your using auto focus you can have the ring to control the aperture.
@MrKokom
@MrKokom Ай бұрын
Hey can i give u suggestion. I bought 2x Viltrox 1.2 Pro from your review but i ended up returning it as them both keep pulsing on static head shots in every 2 minutes or so even at the lowest focus speed setting. Can you include a 5 minute head shot test and see whether it pulses in and out like the pro series for whatever 3rd party lens you'd review next time?. I was using A6700 and it has the latest focus tech from sony. So it was a very disappointing lens for video.
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Ай бұрын
Sorry to hear that. I have never experienced it and I used the Viltrox 27mm 1.2 for much longer than 5 minute doing talking head videos. If it's a lens for video I always test a talking head shot for 10 mins or so. But I will double check my viltrox. Are you using that exact same setup with other lenses and getting good results? If so, what is the camera and lens combos that's working in that environment.
@MrKokom
@MrKokom Ай бұрын
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis same camera same setup, lowest focus speed on both subject shift and focus shift. Same two brand new lens. With same brand new camera. A6700 Viltrox 27mm F1.2 Pro
@mlentsch
@mlentsch Ай бұрын
gosh - Viltrox is killing it.
@mentalost
@mentalost Ай бұрын
I really just can't decide which lens to get with my new a7C II. Do I want 50mm f1.4 ? Or the good ol' classic 85mm ? But what about the Samyang's BBG 135mm (big beautiful glass) 😭 I just can't decide.. I'll have to think more about what I actually need but perhaps the classic Sony 85mm f/1.8 is the answer.
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Ай бұрын
The 85 1.8 is a great place to start - doesn't break the bank, small lens - beautiful photos
@patrickschonknecht4796
@patrickschonknecht4796 26 күн бұрын
Think about the Samyang FE 50/1.4 II - if I had to choose one lens for the beginning, with good price/reward, I would go for this.
@mentalost
@mentalost 26 күн бұрын
@@patrickschonknecht4796 Thanks for the suggestion! It seems like I've already went with the Sony 35mm f1.8, which is amazing. I also have a Viltrox 85mm f1.8 II on the way, because I've found extremely good deal on it, 1/3 less than the Sony 85mm 1.8. I'll see what I can do with these 2 lenses, and decide from there on if I need something wider/longer. I'll still keep an eye on the Samyang 135mm f1.8, since it's one of my dream lens, although I just can't imagine myself traveling with it, it's really not as versatile as the 85mm are.
@wakeywarrior
@wakeywarrior Ай бұрын
Good comparison and interesting because Christopher Frost says the Samyang is sharper on his tests- wonder why? I love Viltrox ever since I bought the Nikon Z mount APSC 13mm F1.4 which is a fantastic lens with very nice look to it. Based on this review the Viltrox seems the best subject to price and weight not been an issue. The Samyang is expensive currently in the U.K. actually and the Viltrox is cheaper. However they are both over £700 currently I’d like to see them getting into the £500s before biting.
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Ай бұрын
Dustin Abbot found the same thing I did. I’m not sure Christopher Frost has actually tested it yet head to head. perhaps he’s going by memory. Hopefully he’ll come out with a direct comparison soon
@marcelo_afonso
@marcelo_afonso Ай бұрын
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis or maybe he got a better version of the same lens. One thing that concerns me in Samyang is their quality control
@ChristopherAshworthpage
@ChristopherAshworthpage Ай бұрын
There is an update for the Viltrox focusing on older E mount cameras. So I hope you show us more with the newer update.
@keirux
@keirux Ай бұрын
I think an interesting area to test would be how good Catalyst Stabilization works with these as that is normally where Sony lenses offer a massive benefit for people recording video
@Jeo-What
@Jeo-What Ай бұрын
Thanks for this review. I have tested both the Samyang and Rokinon extensively before I returned them. For indoor sports use usually at 1/1000s+ and ISO 6,400~128,000 for indoor succor and indoor roller derby, these two only had less than 25% hit rats. I than purchase a 30 days returnable used Sony 135mm f/1.8 GM lens and the hit rate was 90%+ even at 30fps. As tempting as the amazing IQ and 50% off price it is to purchased the Viltrox and sell the Sony to have some good amount of cash back in my pocket... I will be keeping the Sony for now.
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Ай бұрын
Thanks for the real world tests
@marekratajczyk6735
@marekratajczyk6735 Ай бұрын
First! Still waiting for 50-150 f2.8 for Sony APS-C 😅 hope it will come one day ❤
@djxcel23
@djxcel23 Ай бұрын
We needed that like yesterday
@testusersg
@testusersg Ай бұрын
Will there be a review of the viltrox EF-E booster (vs metabones?) and maybe viltrox filters?
@jliang70
@jliang70 17 күн бұрын
To be honest I actually own 5 lenses of 135mm focal length. The old Pentax Takuma 135mm F3.5, which is the cheapest, Canon EF mount Zeiss Milvus 135mm F2.0, Sigma ART 135mm F1.8 , Sony GM 135mm f1.8. Takuma is contrasty and has very punchy color reproduction but it has more chromatic aberration like most of the vintage glasses. Milvus is about as optically perfect as it comes, it is sharp, has greater micro contrast with it also greater detail than any 135mm, absolutely brilliant color reproduction but it does not have the convenience of auto focus and whole metal construction means it is rather weighty than even the heavier Sigma ART. Sony has the quietest and fast autofocus, neutral in color reproduction, nice lens but the image quality is not like Mivus. Sigma is almost like Sony in image quality with slightly warmer color. Viltrox will be my last 135mm lens, it does have the looks that very much like Zeiss, even though it weighs about 150 grams more than Zeiss but it is much easier to handle 1.26kg lens with auto focus than needing two hands to hold 1.1kg Zeiss and manual focus. I have watched a lot of review on Viltrox for me it does look like a lot of work has been put through with this lens, it is also very close to the APO design of Zeiss with almost no distortion, Viltrox does have that tonality very close to the look of Zeiss.
@damianbereza6901
@damianbereza6901 Ай бұрын
Actually I can't wait to see new 35, 50 and 85 viltrox lab f1.2 - Hope to see your test and opinion about them
@MegaUltraSuperDuable
@MegaUltraSuperDuable Ай бұрын
I shoot but with full frame and aps-c cameras (sony)... I own both the viltrox 27mm f1.2 and the 75mm f1.2. both fantastic lenses. But for the full frame 135 range i went with the samyang... Lighter, and fantastic optics. I however have noticed its important to install any and all firmware updates... I bought the samyang 135 on release and it was for some weird reason draining the battery in the camera crazy fast... Update came and problem was solved. (Downside is it do need you to get the lens station to be able to update the firmware)... But the lens station is a one time buy and do not cost that much.... Currently i am waiting for a 56mm f1.2 viltrox for aps-c
@parishino1
@parishino1 Ай бұрын
I dont use my 135mm often but, when I do, I love the images that I get out of my Rokinon lens... NEVER have I had a client tell me how much more they like the image quality of my GM lenses in comparison. I LOVE the weight of the Rokinon - the image quality is a B+ I think I paid 600.00 for the Rokinon which is MORE than a bargain. I also have the the Rokinon 85mm f1.4 another really good lens - GREAT value.
@noelwilliams2741
@noelwilliams2741 27 күн бұрын
Christopher Frost considers the Samyang sharper than the Viltrox. down to individual lens batch differences maybe? Dustin Abbot also errs towards the Viltrox regarding sharpness. I have the Samyang but have no brand loyalty whatsoever. Three great lenses !!!
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis 27 күн бұрын
I agree both are great lenses. Dustin only said it was slightly sharper in the corners at certain apertures - overall he thought the Viltrox was sharper. Not sure if Christopher Frost has tested the head to head yet, but he did say the Samyang he though might be sharper from memory. Honestly you can't go wrong with either and they're both really sharp. The Viltrox is crazy heavy though.
@kentsoderstrom8378
@kentsoderstrom8378 Ай бұрын
I’ve been using the Sony Zeiss 135/1.8 with Sony A-mount plus a Sony native adapter to FE. Lens is just a shy under 1kg plus the LEA4 adapter which brings it close to the weight of the Viltrox. The Zeiss is heavenly, but it’s heavy. If I buy another 135/1.8 it will be the Samyang.
@my_lens_moments
@my_lens_moments Ай бұрын
It looks to me like the depth of field on the Viltrox is slightly wider than the other two. I wonder if that plays into it appearing sharper? Maybe it’s not a true 1.8 and the other two are? Seemed like a slower drop off on the bokeh tests with more of the subject looking sharp. What do you think? That Sony is clinically sharp too from experience. Nice summary of the three overall but that was just something I noticed. Apart from the size and weight, Viltrox seems like a great buy and a friend has the Samyang so I know that’s great too. Three great options.
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Ай бұрын
It's always possible. Since these are photography lenses not measured in T-stops, there is room for a little variation. For instance, the Viltrox exposed a little brighter at the same ISO's than the Samyang. But the viltrox does seem sharper even at the point of focus - however, the other two lenses are PLENTY sharp.
@jayrichjlr
@jayrichjlr 11 күн бұрын
why are you shooting at higher ISO with the samyang? I would have preferred sample photos from the same settings as well
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis 10 күн бұрын
those are autoexposures. That’s what the camera chose to get the same exposure. If I had used the same iso, the saImyan photo would have been darker. The Viltrox exposes brighter. check out Dustin Abbott’s review where he explains that more in depth. also, that tiny variation in iso makes no discernible difference at those levels
@jayrichjlr
@jayrichjlr 10 күн бұрын
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Sure. I don't disagree with what you are saying. I just think it would have been great for us, the viewers, and potential buyers to visually see that during your tests. It would have been, maybe, an extra 2 minutes of testing. That info could be beneficial
@QuietOC
@QuietOC Ай бұрын
Having tried two copies of the Samyang there is quite a bit of alignment variation.
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Ай бұрын
interesting
@holgerokorn3164
@holgerokorn3164 Ай бұрын
Will use Viltrox 75 1.2 in crop mode. Bought it for Eur 435 new. 112mm i easier to use ndoors. About half the weight of the Viltrox 135mm 1.8
@BorisG491
@BorisG491 22 күн бұрын
Just got the viltrox. Dang this thing is SHARP
@Your_Egyptian_Papi
@Your_Egyptian_Papi Ай бұрын
Hello Mark, Will you announce the giveaway winners ??👀
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Ай бұрын
Yes - I put it in the pinned comment of the community post and the video. But I will make a special post
@nickorafael3887
@nickorafael3887 Ай бұрын
Can we get raw files from this lens comparison please
@XIIVSander
@XIIVSander 29 күн бұрын
I bought a samyang a for ~500€ new, its was a crazy offer. I like the pictures coming out of it and the light weight, but I'm looking at the lab now because of the image quality, only issue is that it will nolonger be a travel lens. And I allready have a 105 f 1,4 as ultra heavy champion. But my biggest wish would be that the focusing would be better then samyang on the lab
@leechinheng7908
@leechinheng7908 25 күн бұрын
Hi Mark, do you think Viltrox 135 can be used in A6700?
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis 25 күн бұрын
it can - but it’ll be huge on it!!
@patricktobiasz532
@patricktobiasz532 Ай бұрын
I picked up the Samyang. On sale was $600ish and so light. Very good lens! One of my favorite lenses. No doubt the best lens under $750. Mark is correct on all accounts but I don't want that huge Viltrox nor that huge Sony price tag. There is so little difference between them (barring sports shooting) that the Samyang is the value champ for me. BTW on my Z8 and Sony A7111 I was getting an almost 70% hit rate for fast action on the Samyang.
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Ай бұрын
Thanks for the real world use. I agree - it's a great lens and likely the best lens under $800 for any system
@ooharloo
@ooharloo Ай бұрын
I got the Samyang 135 a couple years back for is price to performance. The value is hard to beat. I got it on sale at $165 USD. It's a focal length that I don't use often so I didn't find it practical to spend too much on it.
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Ай бұрын
@@ooharloo $165!! Wow.
@jeroenvdw
@jeroenvdw Ай бұрын
Pretty surprising that the Sony isn't the sharpest! Love my Sony 135 GM and on the A7RV it's razor sharp. I used to buy 3rd party lenses, but as you mentioned, the AF speed isn't great with fast moving subjects. I mostly photograph dogs that are running all over the place, the Sony doesn't fail me.
@jonoy4375
@jonoy4375 Ай бұрын
For 135 portrait lens hand held, fast focusing is the priority.
@marc_likes_marketing
@marc_likes_marketing Ай бұрын
i just use my sony 85 1.8 on my a6100 (or in aps-c mode on a ff). i can't see myself buying a 135mm when i have a 70-200 2.8.
@ChristopherAshworthpage
@ChristopherAshworthpage Ай бұрын
I want someone to make a raised aperture ring sticker for this Viltrox lens and a linear aperture option through firmware update.
@EmoEmu
@EmoEmu Ай бұрын
I've got my eye on the Samyang. The weight is a HUGE advantage for me as someone with a ruined back and neck. Whenever I can shave weight off the kit, it's a good day.
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Ай бұрын
The weight is VERY noticeable
@Nathan_Lundstrom
@Nathan_Lundstrom Ай бұрын
The Sony focus rack was lightning fast, but I actually thought the SamYang focus rack looked the most pleasing despite it being slower, it felt more natural for video. I could see how the faster focus motors would be preferred for photo, though.
@frankfeng2701
@frankfeng2701 Ай бұрын
I believe you can adjust the AF speed and sensitivity in camera.
@Nathan_Lundstrom
@Nathan_Lundstrom Ай бұрын
@ you were able to adjust the focus speed to compensate for some of the shortcomings in a lens, but assuming Mark left all the settings the same it shows how responsive the lenses are to the same digital command from the camera. If we were to increase the focus tracking speed in the settings, the Sony would likely still be the fastest to grab focus.
@mongini1
@mongini1 Ай бұрын
in photo mode and AF-C its noticably faster than the video test showed.
@MeocTuTaaa-m1l
@MeocTuTaaa-m1l 20 күн бұрын
I have a Samyang and I think that is a good option. It is lightweight.and affordable, which make sense. 135 primes are speciality lens and in most cases, you will have to pair it with other lens for different perspectives. It is 500grams lighter than the viltrox and you can add a 35gm or 501.4 prime in the camera bad and still get similar weight. For image quality, subjectively I feel the image come off it is little bit less contrasty and saturated. And in some case I just feel like it is sharp but not crazy sharp. But I think it can get thw work done and I like the final product. I wish the samyang could focus a little bit faster. I frequent miss focus shooting moving object even the model is simply walking slowly.
@Acura1NSX
@Acura1NSX 5 күн бұрын
Sony is superior in image quality and the focus is incredibly fast. Big advantage is the weight & size when you're carrying this glass around on an extended shoot the Sony reigns supreme.
@larsmichael7162
@larsmichael7162 Ай бұрын
more noise in the Samyang photo. Probably due to the fact that the ISO is 2500 vs. 2000. I think these tests would have been more useful at ISO 200 to avoid any noise issues / artefacts.
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Ай бұрын
The camera was choosing the ISO as I was in aperture priority so the lenses could be a constant f1.8. The tests were about image quality and not noise. Noise is a camera sensor issue and irrelevant to the lens. This is why I didn't mention noise at all.
@GilbertTV
@GilbertTV Ай бұрын
I'd love to have a 135mm but reluctant to spend a fortune on a lens I would not use that much so I guess the Samyang would be my pick , I do love my other Samyang lenses & the rendering is very nice for portrait work
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Ай бұрын
Sometimes you can get a great sale as well. Keep an eye out during this holiday season - you might find a steal on it!!
@TW-iu9zy
@TW-iu9zy Ай бұрын
… what? Wait, just 60% keeper rates for the Samy and the Viltrox at 10-15 fps? Thats‘s bad 🤔 Thankfully they are not able to shoot at 30 or 120 fps with the a1/a9. 😄 So the GM is a no brainer for my journalism work: fast and reliable AF, the same great IQ, not to heavy, breathing compensation, linear AF and it has an absolutely quit AF motors. 🙉 Anyway: Great video, thx! 👍🏻
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Ай бұрын
Yes - the GM is the way to go for you.
@auroraflash
@auroraflash Ай бұрын
What is it good for?
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Ай бұрын
Most people use this focal length for portraits.
@KeAiFu
@KeAiFu Ай бұрын
Event photography with little light, changing light und changing light colors, you will feel the advantage of the GM AF..... so I am happy with my Sony.
@Alexey46
@Alexey46 Ай бұрын
Thanks for advertising Viltrox!
@TW-iu9zy
@TW-iu9zy Ай бұрын
😂
@akji48
@akji48 Ай бұрын
Why viltrox has lower iso than others?
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Ай бұрын
It exposes a little brighter. The camera was set to autoexposure. Dustin Abbott talks about it on his videos of the Viltrox.
@cobra2079
@cobra2079 Ай бұрын
Samyang p4p champ in my book considering price and weight.
@parishino1
@parishino1 Ай бұрын
its really the weight for me... the image quality is near perfect for 600.00?!??!? Stop being dumb - save your money!
@OneRiley
@OneRiley Ай бұрын
I’m using Samyang 135mm f/1.8 AF for almost two years now and it still works perfectly, had it on Marathon, Events and Weddings. I can feel how heavy it is after shooting for a couple of hours, I can’t imagine carrying that 1.2kg Viltrox compared to 772g from Samyang. I can attest that it’s weather sealed after shooting with it on light rain for an open event. Samyang’s Astro Mode is a handy feature too. I have several videos about it on my channel too. Great video mate.
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Ай бұрын
Thanks for the experience comment. I must say I really do love carrying the Samyang vs the Viltrox. And since the image quality is so close - I can see many people choosing the Samyang
@OneRiley
@OneRiley Ай бұрын
I agree Mark, clients love the photos coming in from my Samyang 135. The Viltrox 135 is even heavier that the Tamron 35-150 f/2-2.8 aye? I guess the reason why it’s also longer is because of that built-in USB-C port for FW update, Samyang uses a separate device called Lens Station.
@zachlewmedia
@zachlewmedia Ай бұрын
I bought the samyang used for about $500. If you can find it for that price definitely jump on it. I have not been let down
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Ай бұрын
Yes - an absolute steal!! Nice grab
@sda0073
@sda0073 Ай бұрын
Do the same for the 85mm f1.4
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Ай бұрын
I did do the 85 GM 1.4 vs Meike 1.4. I will compare the Viltrox LAB lens if they release it.
@sda0073
@sda0073 Ай бұрын
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis samyang mark II vs meike, both super budget
@LMoProVisualComm
@LMoProVisualComm Ай бұрын
What about the Sigma 135
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Ай бұрын
That's an older lens adapted from DSLR cameras. Sigma doesn't even sell it anymore on most of their global websites. They need a new one built for mirrorless. Hopefully soon.
@LMoProVisualComm
@LMoProVisualComm Ай бұрын
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis yet it's probably still the better lens.
@jliang70
@jliang70 17 күн бұрын
@@LMoProVisualComm IN many way that Sigma has the image quality that is very close to Sony GM with warmer colour but it is very very sharp lens. I have both GM and Sigma, GM is better specially in how quiet, accurate and quickly acquires focus. Sigma 135mm does focus faster than 105mm Sigma but slower than the newer 85mm DG DN. I don't think you will be disappointed owning a Sigma. Sigma ART has delivered a large number of great prime with their ART HSM series but their product development seems to be slowing after HSM series and they are not quite as active in putting new lenses on the market.
@DrWasim
@DrWasim Ай бұрын
I would own the Sigma DG DN (TBA)
@frankfeng2701
@frankfeng2701 Ай бұрын
The DG version is good enough for 135 that is used often.
@mongini1
@mongini1 Ай бұрын
@@frankfeng2701 the HSM? its okay, but i'd rather take the Samyang at this point. The old Sigma design is huge, heavy and slow AF compared to the Samyang...
@jtouch2859
@jtouch2859 Ай бұрын
gm focus not accrue with image quality compare .
@darrenddmp
@darrenddmp Ай бұрын
i have the Samyang 135f1.8 and believe it or not, based on how i edit, i prefer to add contrast in post if needed vs toning it down.
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Ай бұрын
interesting!!
@thephotosandvideos1773
@thephotosandvideos1773 Ай бұрын
Doing such tests using ISO 2000-2500 is very funny. I hope I never see this again in my life:P
@TW-iu9zy
@TW-iu9zy Ай бұрын
… why? It ISO 2000 a problem for modern Sony cameras? Maybe Canon has a better performance at such ISO levels? 🤔
@kentsoderstrom8378
@kentsoderstrom8378 Ай бұрын
No brainer for me. I will choose the Samyang because it’s the cheapest and the lightest by far. To be light is the reason to use it or not. Would never carry the Viltrox.
@I922sParkCir
@I922sParkCir Ай бұрын
Wow… the Viltrox is heavier than my Tamron 35-150mm. That’s going to be a no from me.
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Ай бұрын
it's a hefty boy for sure
@NeverMimd
@NeverMimd Ай бұрын
Hi Mark! Thank you for your great videos. I like your sense of humor. If you don't mind, I have three questions: Is it worth buying a used A6300 in 2024-2025? I'm doing talking videos, unboxing videos, and things like that, so shooting 4k and having a good focus is essential for me, is A6300 good at those? Do you think which is a better choice, a used A6300 for $430 or a zv-e10 for $530? and in your point of view does the number of shots impact on quality of the camera's videography? By the way, I think it's not a bad idea you do a video about the best setups for unboxing videos.
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Ай бұрын
I would get the ZV-E10 for sure
@NeverMimd
@NeverMimd Ай бұрын
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis ❤️
@Riskbreaker2009
@Riskbreaker2009 Ай бұрын
SONY GM +21 (best for sports) SAMYANG +19 (best budget lightweight travel) VILTROX +23 (best optics also good af but big and too heavy) Price SONY GM -2 SAMYANG +3 VILTROX +2 Weight SONY GM +1 SAMYANG +3 VILTROX -2 Size SONY GM +2 SAMYANG +1 VILTROX -1 Build quality SONY GM +2 SAMYANG -1 VILTROX +3 Contrast SONY GM +3 SAMYANG -1 VILTROX +3 Sharpness SONY GM +1 SAMYANG +3 VILTROX +3 AF SONY GM +3 SAMYANG +1 VILTROX +2 Vignetting SONY GM +1 SAMYANG +3 VILTROX +3 Distortion SONY GM +2 SAMYANG +3 VILTROX +3 Flare and glare SONY GM +3 SAMYANG +1 VILTROX +3 Sunstars SONY GM +3 SAMYANG +2 VILTROX +3 LOCA SONY GM +3 SAMYANG +1 VILTROX +1
@Alex-fe2vv
@Alex-fe2vv Ай бұрын
14:30 I saw that.
@bromoboy
@bromoboy Ай бұрын
samyang is waaay cheaper in my country, and it renders color better and more neutral
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Ай бұрын
It's a really great lens
@noisackda2564
@noisackda2564 Ай бұрын
Hey Mark sell me the LAB. You don't need it 😬
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Ай бұрын
ok - and then I will buy a new one though your affiliate link. This is working out great for you.
@noisackda2564
@noisackda2564 Ай бұрын
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Hahahahaha! Dead. 💀
@LindonSlaght
@LindonSlaght Ай бұрын
Everyone's complaining about not many E=mount 1.4 primes made by sony, imagine they come out with a 135 1.2 😭
@frankfeng2701
@frankfeng2701 Ай бұрын
Viltrox next LAB lenses would be 35 and 85 1.2
@mongini1
@mongini1 Ай бұрын
they'd never do that... it would require a front lens element of at least 113mm, plus the space for the housing etc. That lens would have a diameter of at least 120mm and weight would be around 2 kilograms or even more. Not gonna happen 😅😅
@LindonSlaght
@LindonSlaght Ай бұрын
@@mongini1 hey. dude. can you let me have my fantasy please?
@mongini1
@mongini1 Ай бұрын
​@@LindonSlaght I would love to, but physics says no XD
@LindonSlaght
@LindonSlaght Ай бұрын
@@mongini1 well... physics says yes. Practicality and cost say no.
@devilangel4655
@devilangel4655 Ай бұрын
Viltrox 135 is the best, they did it right!
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Ай бұрын
It's a great lens.
@RUFFSTUFFMEDIA
@RUFFSTUFFMEDIA Ай бұрын
The Viltrox 1335mm finally came in today and out the box there was something I had to know... YES, it is shorter and heavier than the 70-200mm GMII. Looking forward to see how it shoots. Did read a reviewer that chose the Samyang over Viltrox. Interesting.
@Faczz
@Faczz Ай бұрын
love the video but the title says f18😅
@Samiam-mu5ln
@Samiam-mu5ln Ай бұрын
The bokeh will be non existent at f18 😂 everything will be flat as a pancake and a 2D image lol first that Panasonic Pancake lens with its f8 and now this! (Totally playing into the f18 gag, don't think I am serious lol)
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Ай бұрын
@@Faczz thanks - fixed it!!
@iuanders448
@iuanders448 Ай бұрын
but the drawback is the weight of Viltrox
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Ай бұрын
it's heavy for sure
@jliang70
@jliang70 17 күн бұрын
It really depends on you. I have used both Milvus and Sigma. To me 1.2+kg autofocus 135mm is not that bad since I also used 105mm F1.4 Sigma which weighs 1.7kg. Milvus at 1.1 kg but manual focus is much more tiring to use than Sigma 105mm that is 0.6kg heavier.
@stjepanjina
@stjepanjina Ай бұрын
Sigma, Plena?
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Ай бұрын
haha - I should be including that scale. Sigma's 135 is an old lens adapted from DSLR. They need an updated one. They don't even sell it on the official site anymore
@jliang70
@jliang70 17 күн бұрын
I don't own Nikon camera so never had a chance to play with Plena and Viltrox, My viltrox is still to be delivered. There are a lot of similarity in PQ of Sigma and Sony GM, Sigma is warmer and Sony has that usual Sony signature to its color, very neutral and Sony is a little big more contrasty lens than Sigma. I also use Milvus which of course is with manual focus and it is almost the optical perfection for this focal length.
@caskraker
@caskraker Ай бұрын
Just saved a lot of money. Did not buy any of them.
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Ай бұрын
🤣
@Samiam-mu5ln
@Samiam-mu5ln Ай бұрын
Mark is playing a trick with your eyes to make the Viltrox look better with some of the examples (fooled me at first). For the Sony/Samyang photo examples he (for whatever reason) increased the ISO values which introduced more noise. Perhaps the reason was a subjective one but definitely is skewing the results to make the Viltrox more favorable 👎👎
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Ай бұрын
I didn’t increase anything. The Viltrox exposes brighter and the camera chose those settings in auto exposure. Dustin Abbott talks about it extensively in his review. I didn’t mention it because it doesn’t matter in the test. it’s about image quality. A tiny variation in ISO in a Sony camera will make zero difference, plus, noise was never mentioned. Please do not come back to this channel as I find your comment insulting as well as misinformed. I don’t work for Viltrox or Sony or anyone and I don’t care what you buy. I do care when people say I’m deceiving viewers. Shame on you.
@mongini1
@mongini1 Ай бұрын
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis that dude never heard the term T-Stop...
@mongini1
@mongini1 Ай бұрын
just because a lens has an aperture of 1.8 doesnt mean it lets through the exact same amount of light. Its just the physical size of the opening in relation to the focal length. The camera was in Auto ISO, and the Viltrox has better transmission. It boils down to the construction, amount of lenses and groups, their coatings, even the refractive index of individual elements. (normal vs. ED glass for example) Shame on you for insinuating that Mark is deceiving people, just because you dont know how lensen work...
@ChristopherAshworthpage
@ChristopherAshworthpage Ай бұрын
Just means the Viltrox is not only sharper but also a brighter lens making it more a f 1.7 for stupid cheap and no cat eyes bokeh. I have ordered mine already to save 15 % off the $899 and they are sending me a UV filter for free with my order. Holy moly!
@silviatricks17
@silviatricks17 Ай бұрын
Did you update the firmware on the Samyang? Because they do not come with the latest firmware and it makes a night and day difference in video for autofocus
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Ай бұрын
Yes - running the latest firmware. The autofocus is great - just a but slower than the Sony
@pentagramyt417
@pentagramyt417 Ай бұрын
I'd like to see 135 mm f1.4 GM 🫠😃 You might call me a freak, and say it will weigh a lot more, but I can guess it wouldn't be that much heavy today with Sony abilites to reduce weight in their lenses.
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