Christians React To Behemoth God=Dog Lyrical Breakdown!! (2 of 2)

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[@WvlfCvlt]

Nergal has completed six years of history, including one year of Latin at University of Gdańsk, and is qualified to be a museum curator.

[@grysndotwav]

TRIG and that’s why he’s a total bad ass

[@melissaderp8357]

he's more educated than your average christian but i like to hear both sides of every debate and there is few things better than god as a debate topic however i do prefer government debates those are like a circus compared to religious debates also when you said that satan isn't divine i w ould argue that satan is divine very divine in fact god created satan the very definition of divine is di·vine1 dəˈvīn/Submit adjective 1. of, from, or like God or a god. since god made him he is from god making satan divine but this is from a outsiders perspective on this debate

[@rfamilies816]

Can you review zakir naik video? 🤭

[@jimmiebeesapimp]

That means fuck to me friend Nergal better change his ways or suffer more than he can imagine

[@WvlfCvlt]

@@jimmiebeesapimp and how he’s going to suffer?

[@lucifereleison9013]

Nergal just mentioned you guys on his Instagram if you havent noticed! ☺️

[@sdmfanthony5649]

I'd say yes. The majority of Christians would certainly look down and judge you for listening to black metal music, period.

[@fireeaglefitnessmartialart935]

Anthony Flanagan even just metal at all. I remember going to see metallica back in '09 after death magnetic came out, while we were in line at the door, there was a guy outside with us preaching gospel n such. even my friend's friend's parents were like be careful with that type of music.

[@tryten9]

People don't have enough to do....

[@Rob-2887]

The image that comes to my mind is all the CD burning protests that occurred throughout the 90’s and before...an artist like Marilyn Manson for example ... Christians would pileup his CD’s and torch them... they didn’t try to understand his point of view...they weren’t looking to build bridges... they were burning them down

[@Opranius]

Anthony: I dunno, most of the "christians" (in central europe for example) are just christians on a paper (not referring to poland :S )

[@CloneCommando501st]

Anthony Flanagan it depends where the hearts of the musicians are. I listen to Christian metal but not satanic or alternative spiritual metal anymore, because I know music is very powerful spiritually

[@sdmfanthony5649]

I do hope you guys can land Nergal for an interview. Then we can get to what his message really is, and what he meant in this and/or other lyrics. Lol.

[@coltsfan4life32]

Anthony Flanagan it will never happen

[@michaelmottonen3044]

Well if we annoy and/or pay him enough... XD

[@tekaru5625]

Look at MetalshopTV channel, they did interview with him if you don´t mind Czech lyrics at the bottom

[@diapozitīvs]

He will never explain his lyrics. Countless interviews have questions about meaning - unanswered. He lets the audience to explain it, to learn, to better, to educate themselves in order to understand another layer of meaning. So, the interview would probably go into general terms of pro/con and Black Metal in general I guess. Which could turn out to be ton of insight/fun

[@melissaderp8357]

yep pretty much this he will not lead people like sheep he doesn't respect sheep

[@SirRunk666]

I've never gotten the impression that Behemoth targets faith or spirituality, but rather organized religion, specifically the Catholic church and the hypocrisy of its holier-than-thou leaders.

[@tuliobouzas]

The first three verses are a reference to Shiva. It's pretty much the description of how Shiva is depicted.

[@crucifixmegabuster95]

Nergal imo is doing a lot of things with this song and video. 1 pissing off the polish church at max level. Song is basically lyrically saying he's not god but feels he can be better then god or the divine. As he states if he is the bridge basically between pigs and the divine he won't preach to the divine or have his head held high. Instead he's gonna be amongst the swine. So its once again taking shots at the polish church. How they have full on control and imprison people and cast judgement. Also saying he's not gonna keep this fight up because its bringing him suffering. He uses the thelemic text in song to take shots at the church but also express himself. Basically the church pissed off a lot of the Europeans and that hate is strong.

[@chad8767]

He also is using the song and the "bridge" between god and man and throwing it away immediately to say that he is not a savior, nor a god; He is just here to push independent thought.

[@dirkdiggler6316]

It’s so interesting how vin finds the most basic religious apprehensions so foreign. 99% of Christians would say you’re both wrong for listening to satanic music. Most religious people have no interest in hearing someone else’s side. And I STRONGLY disagree that Christians are as rational as Vin thinks.

[@VinAndSori]

There are two billion Christians on the planet. Where did you get that 99% number from ?

[@dirkdiggler6316]

VinAnd Sori it’s an exaggerated number of course. But honestly I feel the majority is opposite of how you perceive them. This is a topic we need to add to our discussion.

[@melissaderp8357]

sorry i agree with him not the percent but it is the general opinion i have received from christians my whole life i am 39 y/o i am not satanic or godly but i do love a good religious debate from the outside looking in i think they are funny it's like watching and listening to two drunk people arguing Vin i actually respect you for being open I haven't ran into many godly people like you my whole rational with any religion is if it's what you need and it works for you good i am happy for you but i do not need it our want it myself thanks for your videos i find them fun

[@accessdefined]

I'm not going to throw inflated numbers out, but just from my own personal experience and growing up in a "religious" christian family, as well as attending multiple churches in my younger years in my personal experience this sentiment is accurate. In my experience the few hundred christian's I have been around would consider what you both do as completely in the wrong. And that is exactly the reason why I find you two and your opinions so refreshing (compared to everything else I have experienced), because while I don't necessarily believe in god and Christianity, to see you both being such rational open minded people, willing to not only listen to this stuff but also dissect and reflect on it is awesome. I'm not going to discount Vin's point of view since just like me, maybe in your experience it's been different, but just be aware that the argument swings both ways. Either way you both are great, keep it up! :)

[@deathkid68]

Jonathan G as a christian and metalhead myself, I find that more christians dont care anymore. Most of them are just saying how can you listen to that noice. But more and more people are quite chill about the whole satanic theme.

[@levischorpioen]

Sori putting Vin in his place about the lack of rationality amongst a lot of Christians gave this atheist a huge smile on my face. Thanks Sori for being a voice of reason! Vin, adore you man, but in order to understand someone, you have to see things from their perspective. It seems as though you have a lot of trouble disconnecting yourself from your faith. My personal opinion: Faith should never consume you. Should it help you find your way through life? Absolutely. But there's more to life than faith. Giving responses like "That's a very Biblical perspective" or "Yeah, but God said..." means absolutely zero to an atheist, or even an atheistic Satanist. It's meaningless, it's not our point of view, it's yours. If you can't let go of your faith in discussions or debates, I personally don't think you're fit to think rationally about certain things at all (not to say that religion is inherently irrational, just saying that putting everything in a Christian perspective and then making that out to be the POV of, in this case Nergal, is entirely meaningless).

[@VinAndSori]

I wasn’t debating atheist though. As far as I know, I’m pretty sure she’s a Christian

[@levischorpioen]

You were talking about how Nergal would see it. Pretty sure he's anything but Christian.

[@Caleb-il7om]

This is a pretty mean spirited comment that doesn't really deserve a purpose (talk about meaningless). It's their channel and their perspective, of course they're allowed to bring up things that you (or Nergal) might not identify with. And I say that as a huge behemoth fan and atheist.

[@levischorpioen]

Caleb I don’t see how it’s mean-spirited at all, just voicing an opinion. I’m just pointing out that I feel there’s a lot of “well, this is ironic because the Bible/God...”, even though Nergal doesn’t believe in one. How can you interpret lyrics if you constantly confuse your own faith with the lyricists’? Doesn’t make much sense to me, but sorry you feel that way.

[@anixi77]

my words exactly. wrote it myself under many other videos. sometimes you need to restrain yourself from faith to see the irony or other meaning. Also, some of the bands here they are not always using christianity as the tool, but go directly through nordic mythology etc. which goes in vain trying to suit it with bible...

[@marcinwrono9879]

Guys, you are missing a very important thing. Church in Poland is not the same thing that you experience. Nobody is alowed to even question it, they control media, politycs and life of every person, to the point that you might get kicked out from school/job for your opininion. For me as an non beliver it was easier to emigrate than to stay in my own country. Nergal is our voice for the past +10 years and withouth him we would be compleatly marganilised.

[@najphil]

buhahahaha, no to padłem, no żeż kuźwa, aż mi oczy ze śmiechu namokły. Janusz prześladowania:D

[@meridianshade]

Do not lie! It is true that people like you can not expect the truth because even if the truth kicked your ass, you would not notice it! This sentence is a steak of nonsense and you know it well. "Nobody is alowed to even question it, they control the media, and they can get kicked out from school / job for your opinion." Catholics and the Catholic Church persecuted you in Poland ??? What a fart! You do not want? You do not go to church! You want to listen to Behemoth and no one will put you in jail for it! You can be who you want in Poland! Nobody expels atheists from Poland, so do not lie and do not come back to Poland because you have nothing to do with this country! In Polish: Nie kłam! Co prawda po takich jak ty nie można się prawdy spodziewać bo choćby cię kopnęła w dupę to byś jej nie zauważył! To zdanie to stek bzdur i dobrze o tym wiesz "Nobody is alowed to even question it, they control media, politycs and life of every person, to the point that you might get kicked out from school/job for your opininion." Katolicy i KK cię prześladowali w Polsce??? Co za pierdy! Nie chcesz? Nie chodzisz do kościoła! Chcesz słuchasz sobie Behemotha i nikt cię za to do więzienia nie wsadzi! Możesz sobie być kim chcesz w Polsce! Nikt ateistów nie wygania z Polski więc nie kłam i już najlepiej nie wracaj do Polski bo nic z tym krajem nie masz wspólnego!

[@truedarklander]

@@meridianshade Nergal got close to be prosecuted by the Polish state due to ripping a bible in a show.

[@QuietProphetTheWickedWarlock]

Chicago Guy pray for better grammar, first.

[@QuietProphetTheWickedWarlock]

And spelling

[@pratheekjainp]

The Ganges, in India it's called as Ganga Lord Shiva (Hindu god) has a serpent coiled around his neck and the Ganges pours down from the top of his head (hair).

[@crucifixmegabuster95]

Also sori is right. Many Christians are very close minded. Hell I still as a adult(23) I still keep my love of metal a secret from my family and people around me outta fear of being called a devil or some shit. Pardon my French.

[@GoldenProdigyXD]

Literally same

[@miller-426]

very relatable.

[@pes6628]

A shame that you guys have to deal with this. Make no mistake, this isn't the norm. You would be welcome at my church ANYTIME and you would receive nothing, but respect and understanding.

[@holyterraeighty-seven5352]

My mom said that I will love you at your darkness is a common interpretation of romans 5:7 5:8.. Whatever that means. The offer still stands. React to Ghost Zombie Queen and I'll check out the bible. Love you guys and, I'm still watching the reaction but it's great so far.

[@yeshuahawk6835]

59 lol so here we go. Thelema's main idea is the Will. The Will is a rather complicated idea because it doesn't just mean "do what you want". What it means is that we all have a true self or higher self. And that higher self has a true Will that we should align ourselves with and work towards. We should never interfere with someone else's true Will either. So love is the law, love under Will becomes a little clearer. Crowley grew up with a strong basis in scripture so he commonly went against it. Sort of a "angry teenager / I won't do what you tell me / fuck your laws" rebel type of way, which you can find alot of in the esoteric Western occult tradition. I won't continue here because there's no point but there is alot more to go over with Crowley and Thelema. Good vid!

[@daimonsage_1o818]

Who else sided with Sori? 19:30 🤫 I won't tell Vin.

[@leperlord7078]

100%

[@Imperium6Divine]

Snake coiling around the neck is referring to the raising of energy up to the throat chakra Vishuddha. The gift of this chakra is accepting your originality, expressing your authentic voice and speaking your truth. The energy of this chakra allows you to seek knowledge and truth beyond spiritual conditioning. The guy that writes Behemoths lyrics is extremely well versed in the occult and the significance of what is being said is hard to understand without some basic knowledge of the Tree of life, and other eastern esoteric traditions.

[@jonathanmelton8835]

Kundalini

[@Imperium6Divine]

The sleeping shakti! The Kundalooney :P

[@ElliWoelfin]

Well, he is a black magic practitioner, so it is not surprising.

[@Imperium6Divine]

we all are.

[@skinhead5]

Yes he is very well educated. Christians and Muslims don't want truth because they fear punishment. That's how these Abrahamic religions work. Through intimidation and fear. And don't get me started about the khazarian over representation.

[@tcoates1970]

Agree with Sori at the 19 min mark. I kept my liking of metal quiet for some time as I had been told in the 80s about going to hell for listening to that music and I went and still do go to church. There are some, regardless of religion act contradictory to the Bible in their actions. Not all. But there is also that saying of a few bad apples spoiling the bunch. 59

[@tcoates1970]

Good review otherwise. And the video you created also good.

[@Herot145]

lol your debating was awesome, kudos to Sori for her video editing!

[@scottprimus]

At 19ish mins, Sori is right, Vin is wong. You guys should discuss: Ghost - Deus in Absentia Danzig - How the Gods Kill Kind Diamond - A Visit from the Dead Year of the Goat - Spirits of Fire

[@Blazfemur]

Lol respectfully, its certainly not as nergals positionship as a musician regarding the lyrics, "If im the missing link between thepig and the divine, i shall cast my pearls to the swine." In a way it is a bridging. The divine, and whats considered one of the lowliest forms of life. Us, as humans, the balance between the all powerful, and the weak. And if we are that balance between the two, he would rather cast his knowledge and power to those beneath him (to lift them up) to balance and peer (rather than smite and claim dominion over the lower forms of life) Theres another song that has a similar message where the lyrics go, "No horns have i, nor pair ov wings. I am the balance of thy universe." A similar concept The LHP views us as people, as the divine. Were powered by energy. Energy confied by science, can never die, but changes form. In a sense, from an energetic concept exclusively, the same power that allows us the breathe, live, etc has been the same energy for our shortlived time here. In a sense, it validates reincarnation, but negates the finalities of a final place of heaven or hell (to lhp it gets deeper into it, that this current life, is the current heaven or hell from the previous lifes trangressions, and this life determines the next's outcome, but i wont get into that). One of the major goals of lhp practice, is *conquering* reincarnation, stopping the cycles from future imprisonment in a fleshly vessel, and maintaining that energetic, primordial form ongoing. This is unity with the divine, becoming one, as the forms of the daemons that have maintained that form are. All daemons are, are the older gods that were (literally) demonized when christianity took dominion (324 ad, Constantine). Thats why there's so much angst there. The truth of the meaning of st patricks day stays hidden, the plagiarized myth of god impregnating mary to give birth to himself when pagans had the horned god and triple moon goddess doing that centuries prior. Theres just a lot, that people dont know, then claim theirs is the one true and all others are false and lying, that causes the hostility. Thats the misunderstanding though. The ten commandments would be an excellent moral guideline, all but one: "I am your god, the one true god, there will be no other gods before me." That insinuates one true, and has caused countless wars in its wake. Should that be substituted for "thou shalt not rape," id respect it more, aside from the atrocities *condoned* in The Book if we were cherrypicking lines. Wow, tangent. Apologies. Essentially lyrically to behemoth, we're already immortal because energy, but imprisoned in mortal cages. Its a basic concept to much of LHP practice. And the reason he respects other faiths (crescent moons, rivers, etc), and not the cross is because the cross took so much, and claimed they did it first. Even turning older myths into "original" tales, then calling the originators liars.

[@nihilist1280]

Lord Blazfemur This. 👏👏👏

[@therandomusarneim5678]

That line reminds me of studying at school about middle age Christian philosophers such as perhaps Thomas Aquinas or others, who reflected on the duality of matter (animals) and spirit (the angels, God), and man in between. I wish I had cared then lol.

[@Blazfemur]

therandomusarneim its all about duality. There is no good wothout evil, and vice versa. Without darkness, the light would be all-blinding, and without light, just as. Whenever one begins to take dominion (doesntatter which), the other sees it as tyranny, and will forever war to achieve equilibrium, and then supremacy to make up for lost time. Thus, both are equally necessary, and equilibrium is the only true path of peace. This goes for gender wars as well between male and female, racial wars, and most notably wars of faith.

[@Blazfemur]

therandomusarneim my highest power are the concepts of Baphomet, The Source, and androgynous union between the horned god, and triple moon goddess.

[@THESlammethy]

You're right Sori, many Christians would think what you're doing is wrong, however being a Christian myself, I am intrigued with Nergal and want to understand what is causing him to write the things he writes. These vids really help me get a good perspective on why he thinks and writes the way he writes. As for the pearls and swine verse, I think there are a lot of things he could've meant by that but I believe he is saying that he is trying to make the lost souls and rejects feel like they are important too. He is basically trying to empower those who feel powerless by saying that they are on the same level as the divine.

[@Caleb-il7om]

I think he's trying to empower people to recognize their own self worth and uniqueness/individuality. Not sure it's trying to elevate people to being divine, but everything is open to interpretation :)

[@midian_lament3458]

Vin you are pretty wrong because even when I was Christian the amount of hate I got for so many things from Christians....alot of Christians are exactly as siri says..most people are as she says..I think u give them too much credit....honestly

[@midian_lament3458]

Sori... stupid auto correct

[@mikey_noir]

Big facts

[@khellendross3573]

Vin is deluded, Sori is 100% right. I have absolutely heard Christians say that even listening to metal music is evil and not to be tolerated. I can't believe he has never heard this, its pretty much common knowledge. I know alot of Christians who say (and I quote) "I don't like alot of other Christians because they are to close minded". Where there is lightning there is usually thunder Vin, if you have a thousand people telling you something the idea that "we aren't giving THEM a chance" only goes so far. Eventually you have to accept the truth. This was so weird to hear Vin say this, I thought for sure he was joking and trying to play Devil's Advocate to Sori's argument. But of course nothing is black and white. You have people who are judging all Christians based on their limited or semi limited experience, and likewise you have Christians judging metal music or paganism/satanism/atheism based on little to no knowledge. But in between those extreme's there is alot of judgemental christians out there. I don't think you guys really (well I think Sori may have some idea) realize how special you two are. I know Pride is a sin and all that but I can almost guarantee you that 90% of Christians, hell probably a good 75% of the population of the world would not have sat down and tried to reason with that young man from yesterday. Seriously, it's hard to put into words how hopeful that made me. I realize there's probably not many Vin and Sori's out there but hopefully this village can grow the numbers to the point where a real difference can be made.

[@VinAndSori]

Well it’s a running debate we have. Sori truly believes I’m one in a million, I just am not convinced yet. And yes that convo with my new friend touched many

[@khellendross3573]

It had a tremendous impact on me, I hope that young man reaches out to you via email. He's in immense pain, that much was clear. Well I dunno about 1 in a million haha, but I think you are in rare company. An addendum to my earlier comments. Sometimes I am very confused by Nergal. Everything I have seen of the man outside the music (interviews and such) indicates a funny, normal guy who isn't some angry, hateful person. Yet at 40 minutes you guys are right, and at times I feel almost like Nergal is just playing up some of this stuff for imagery sake. Its very strange.

[@VinAndSori]

We’re pretty much aligned on the confusion

[@tomanthony3943]

In my family, we were limited as to what music we could listen to. Even Christian rock was forbidden, as it was still rock. Amy Grant was pushing the line (80s Amy Grant, not 90's). The Beetles was over the line as was much of the newer gospel music. It wasn't until latter teens and adult years I was able to do musical explorations.

[@peteanderson2533]

I used to attend a Baptist Church here in Australia and you bet, myself and another couple of young fellas (this is going back to the 90's) used to cop the "you won't be accepted into heaven listening to that music". This was when we drove into Church or left in our cars. A bunch of us young guys (from the youth group) went and saw Mortification, boy did THAT do some triggering lol!

[@ThomasShatter]

23:04 Actually it is difficult if you live in country like Poland where basically every bad thing you say about priests, church, religion or god can end up by you being prosecuted. And yes. We also have a lot of christians that would call you a blasphemers for listening to this music. Saying that you "opening yourself to the devil". You really need to do breakdown of Inner Sanctum by Behemoth(video is amazing). Maybe it's a good start point to Behemoth week?

[@Fernt]

Sounds like the American South in the 1980's (and perhaps parts of it still now)

[@CloneCommando501st]

ThomasShatter well this music is infused with darkness and even black magic sometimes. I used to be really into it before one night the devil appeared to me. I resisted him and God saved me.

[@Fernt]

Doesn't that sound like it was probably a really bad move on the devil's part then? Do you think it's more likely you were imagining things or that satan took the time to visit some kid on earth because he was listening to some rock music? I mean do you see satan showing up to chat with vin and sori ever? I don't think it would be part of a rational strategy on his part, nor do I think the occasion of a kid listening to metal music (happens a million times a day) warrants a visit from a fallen archangel and the lord of an entire supernatural realm.

[@CloneCommando501st]

Fernt no it wasn't just because of the music. I was getting friendly with the top distributors of Lsd in my city and their spiritualism. I honestly don't know why he took the time to appear for me, but the bible does say he roams around like a lion, seeking to devour

[@Fernt]

You were taking LSD. It's a hallucinogen. You hallucinated. That means it wasn't real. That's the whole point of taking LSD, to see things that aren't real.

[@lisajohnson521]

Oh Vin, I know MANY Christians who would think you guys are wrong. I came out of a ministry (thank God) that would want to caste the devil out of you because they would think that you two were doing something wrong by listening to 'evil' music.

[@fnaffan-eh9cj]

I think Nergal loves God, but hates what humans have turned him into. You guys are awesome, I'm not religious!!!

[@joshuataylor1064]

NERGAL SAW THIS GUYS!!!!!!!! 🤘🤘

[@albertenriquez7079]

The other guy hanging and skinned in the video is Orion the bassist. Can’t believe you guys didn’t know that. It be nice to here you guys mention the musicality and extreme musicianship by the other three members of the band. Inferno, Orion and Seth. You guys speak as if it was the Nergal band. It’s Behemoth!

[@XLamonteCoxX]

6:28 Supposedly it's roman's 5.8, translated from third person into first.

[@williamdewey9568]

Liber al vel Legis means the Book of the Law.

[@drewlytle2281]

You guys might have a chance to talk to Nergal face to face, Behemoth is touring America this fall with At the Gates and Wolves in the Throne Room. See if you can get VIP passes or something and see if you can talk to him and the band in general in person.

[@CrimsonAltar]

Drew Lytle I'm so excited, I'm going October! Havent seen Behemoth live in forever!

[@lukasbeter6156]

Can’t wait to see them either. Sadly the vip is ridiculously expensive. $300+. I met them back in June when they toured with slayer. Nergal is a character, and all around a good dude.

[@tryten9]

Yup, just saw them with Slayer. Going to see them again.

[@CM-eh4lz]

I just got my ticket to see them in London. 😊 Well worth the journey.

[@daktarizhn]

Grabbed this quote from somewhere after a quick Google search: "While we were yet helpless, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly. Why, one will hardly die for a righteous man - though perhaps for a good man one will dare even to die. But God shows his love for us in that while we were yet sinners Christ died for us." Romans 5:6-8 The last sentence of the above quote is - you guessed it - the real Romans 5:8. But you can see how the now-famous social media derivative makes sense, right? "I loved you at your darkest" is simply a translation from third person to first - in the Bible, God's death and greatest act of love was described by someone else, while the quote is the interpretation of the verse from God's point of view - as if God was talking to you, the reader."

[@CrimsonAltar]

Vin got owned. Sori hit him with that TKO

[@kambingovthenorth]

I’m learning a lot from watching your videos. Thanks you guys!

[@blairmitchell7419]

Jesus does not say it. It's a reference to Roman's 5:8.

[@HardKore5250]

Blsir Mitchell The album title is a quote by Jesus

[@blairmitchell7419]

David Heller no it is not. Though millions of people think it is. If you dont believe me a 2 minute Google search would suffice.

[@samdoo1433]

David Heller I've read the whole Bible, he doesn't say it and Romans 5:8 where it is paraphrased from is a book that is written by Paul

[@kYnTso]

Only because it's not in the Bible doesn't mean that Jesus didn't say that.

[@Zlokob]

love the behemoth reactions, my favorite ones. i really hope you get nergal for the interview, as i said on original reaction video for this song, he is very talented and interesting musician and artist. and great guy in general, very humble, interesting and intelligent individual. and you should react to nile a bit more. i really suggest "sarcophagus" song. i know you did one nile reaction before, but it was not very interesting song lyrically. they are very interesting band, musically and lyrically, in general. dark myths of ancient egypt, ancient gods etc. p.s. i also want to give my highest compliments for this lyric video you made, this is one of the best lyric videos ive seen. looks like those official ones that some bands put out. good job.

[@corn3335]

I'm surprised you guys havent done anything from architects yet . Check out these colors dont run, doomsday or anything from the all our gods have abandoned us album. Amazing album and an amazing band

[@AbsoluteHysteria]

Thanks guys... 59!! That was a great review 😁🎵

[@themetalkid9864]

I love the part when you guys argue 'bout "Link between the pig and the divine" line

[@brodo4495]

nergal just posted about yalls reaction on his instagram 😭😱

[@SetzarothTV]

March of Mephisto - Kamelot

[@Painocus]

I think it might be more interesting to have them react to something like "Center of the Universe", "Memento Mori" or "Soul Society", considering the lyrics would give them more to work with, but any Khan-era Kamelot would be good.

[@FM_User1]

Too gay

[@coralfang7137]

I have to agree with Sori's point at the 19:00 mark. I grew up in the deep south in Georgia. Bible Belt country. I'm the son of a Southern Baptist preacher. My uncle is also a preacher, and so was my grandfather, before he retired. I left the church at 21 and am pretty much the black sheep of my extended family. One of the main reasons I left the church was the closed-mindedness surrounding music, and art in general, really. I basically had to choose between music and my family. That's how strongly they feel about this topic. I can guarantee that none of the Christians I knew, family or not, would ever listen to any of the music on this channel. Rock music belongs to the devil, according to them, so there is no compromise from them on this issue. I appreciate you guys being open minded and trying to understand where other people are coming from, but that is something that is very rare in my experience. It's like music is the unforgivable sin for some reason. I've sat through sermons where the preacher spoke out against Christian rock/metal artists too. They would say that the mood of the music does not give glory to God, so it is of the devil. The only music acceptable to a Christian (according to them) is piano music out of the hymnal, or instrumental classical music. I've seen churches literally split over the worship music also. The older crowd wants old school piano hymns, and the younger crowd wants a band and wants to move around and have some fun. Then the church splits because they can't agree. I could go on but I think you get the point.

[@danieljones1782]

Awesome video! you should do a review of Kingdom of Tyrants by Cattle Decapitation

[@kingdomoftyrants9844]

Definitely! Beautiful song

[@TeamWAK130]

I've only recently started watching you guys. It's safe to say that watching you guys talk about God and kind of make links to the bible from these songs has renewed my faith. I've been a wanderer for 14 years now. Watching you guys and hearing you talk about God has granted me renewal. I appreciate you guys for doing what you're doing! Also a song I'd like you to react and review is one I can relate really personally to and probably best sums up why I've been wandering for 14 years. Ashes of Eden by Breaking Benjamin.

[@cannonfodda6249]

Snakes ARE misunderstood, Vin. Fight me 🤣

[@MegaDoom89]

Vin saying that majority of Christians will listen to people and see where they are coming from is demonstrably false. I went to a private college with STRONG Baptist influences and only 1 church group out of the higher numbered dozens that actually would sit and talk with people in a civil rational way. The rest wouldn't have any of it with statements such as "if you listen to metal you're going to hell" and "gamer's don't belong in Heaven." From my experience, Sori is very accurate upon saying that a lot of Christians and Christian groups will not meet in the middle ground when discussing with others about their religion.

[@orborbea9844]

You are so right. I was on a Christian dating site ... well the dating didn’t really come to fruit. Butt he endless arguments back and forth.. always disagreeing. My way is the only way ; No my way is etc and so forth

[@jamesrodolfo8068]

Vin Vs Sori HAHAHA I love it

[@twizt111]

59 give me that award my dude. I don't enjoy your reviews of non religious music but I love black metal and I really really enjoy watching you break down the lyrics to share a different perspective with you. I do sometimes wish you wouldn't go off on tangents and would more closely follow the lyrics but clearly you are becoming popular with your own methods. Thankyou

[@fireeaglefitnessmartialart935]

21:00 time frame. sori is actually right. most christians/people in general, consider metal as being devil music by default. And would say that "good christians" should not listen to or review that type of music. implying that it wrong. the fact that your channel is called "christians react to..." atests to that alone. And probably why you have half the viewers you have. And why they're surprised to see you guys react to not only metal, but even death and black metal on top of it. it kinda what drew me to watch your videos and no way am I the only one.

[@VinAndSori]

That’s actually a very solid argument, although my point is that the bigotry goes both ways

[@HardKore5250]

Rock n roll was the devils music and before was the blues

[@HardKore5250]

Listen to the song crossroads

[@fireeaglefitnessmartialart935]

David Heller yeah. pretty much anything that's not worshiping of God/Jesus in a specific way. But blues, rock, metal seem to take most of the heat. or maybe it seems that way since I follow that music more.

[@fireeaglefitnessmartialart935]

VinAnd Sori I remember going to a baptist church in my home town yrs ago. And I was talking about metal with one of the people, and they pretty much said that metal is demonic and that it wouldn't even matter if you but christian lyrics to the music, cuz it's the music itself that is connected/linked with demonic/satanic ideas.

[@xSanctusx]

"There's no such line in the bible stating I love you at your darkest". You are right. No EXACT words like that. What Nergal meant, you can find in Romans 5:8. Other than that, such defensive attidue from Vin is pretty surprising for me. Hiding behind "Nergal is a rock star and he acts like that" is a hypocritical defense, one of those why many of us oppose christianity. Not answering, but deflecting the questions and statements. At least Sori got close.

[@VinAndSori]

Huh? Defensive? We were just disagreeing on a point lol

[@xSanctusx]

Well, it felt defensive for me. Listening to it again and again, and it still feels like it. But for sure, I can be wrong, since I dont know you guys in person. :)

[@leperlord7078]

Well it does appear Nergal does know some scripture Funny how a Xian missed that My great Grandmother (Devout old school Baptist, fire n brimstone type, always told us that God always loves us, even at our worst Way before Nergal was born, she knew this idea was scriptural I would be very surprised to hear those exact words come from Nergals mouth that the exact title is a biblical quote, not just the idea

[@Raijin-RyuX24]

At 19:00 minutes I think Vin is not completely wrong. But mostly. To Sori’s point, I think Christians as a whole do this. But I think it’s the older Christians. In Vin’s defense, I think younger Christians are becoming more understanding to this concept and don’t necessarily do this. At least the ones I’ve met here. I like this song. I like that you both disagree with one another. I feel Sori is slowly migrating to the dark side! I think Vin is giving his team too much credit. At 30:15 I agree with Sori about fame and who’s genuine and who’s just along for the ride. I’ve actually seen this happen. Kind of relates to recent events, ehem, wouldn’t you say? I bet if you all laid off the red bull you might actually get some proper rest. Just a theory.

[@ThorsShadow]

I agree with you completely. A few things I'd like to add - as someone from Europe who's of pagan believe: You said it's a "one-way street" or something like that, Vin. Believe me, it fucking is not. Sori was perfectly right when she said "Yeah, because everyone is like you." Believe me Vin, you two are amazing unicorns among Christians. I sometimes get the feeling you, Vin, assume, that every Christian is like you and Christianity is so open and Christians are so open-minded, because whatever. They are bloody not. The looks I get, when I tell people I'm pagan...as if I had leprosy. Also, about Christianity: - the crusades - the witch hunts and the Inquisition - (violent) Christianisation of european pagans Yes, a lot of young Christians are more open about things, which is good and mostly don't try to shove their religion down people's throats and don't treat you like you're Mephistopheles, when you admit, that you don't believe in their god. To quote my mum - a faithful, very open Christian: "We say, that we 'believe in...'. It's not called knowing. I believe in god. I don't know wether "he" is actually a man or a woman or both or neither. Maybe there are multiple gods and godesses, maybe it's not a deity but just "the universe". I call it God. Other people call it differently or have multiple names for it. I don't know, that my God is the one true god, I just believe so." I've never met Christians with such an open mind like you two (well, my mum, but she probably wouldn't listen to satanists). You listen to atheists, you listen to satanists. You haven't listened to a lot of pagan stuff (be it music or their believes and world views), at least not that I know of. Which makes me a little sad. Give us a voice and lend us your ears, guys! Keep rocking! \m/

[@Raijin-RyuX24]

ThorsShadow what are some Pagan stuff we should look into? Music? Films? Books? I’m interested. I’m certain Vin and Sori will have some interest. Especially Vin since he absorbs knowledge like a sponge.

[@makjak111]

Tend to side with sori on this one especially in rural Pa

[@kjonnen]

Hávamál is a very good text for understanding the values of Norse Paganism, it's Odins advice on life in general, really good read, the eddas too is good reading, but may be filled with biases, as it's written by a christian monk, but it's the only thing we have detailing the world of the pagan gods and goddesses so it's the best we have, check out Survive The Jive, he has some very informative videos about paganism and seems the be very well informed about it and especially for more reading check out his "Very Indo-European Reading List" video, which has tons of reading material on the topic. For music Eluveitie is a very good band with songs about Ancient Gaul and Gaulish celtic paganism, check out Wardruna and Heilung too which are more dark folk music than metal but still really top notch pagan music, Falkenbach is a good pagan metal band too.

[@holylibations]

Yeah she's right...

[@jl3977]

Vin, I really like Sori's and your videos, but you gotta chill out on the Red Bull.

[@rgaraymd]

Socialism or Barbarism yes I noticed the same thing. Red bull and all those energy drinks will cause tons of issues.

[@qubaalxaero7675]

Least its not monster, Red Bull gives you wings, Monsters bring heart problems... also RB is famous as a whiskey chaser, where is Vins hidden alchy

[@markdemetriou2458]

@@qubaalxaero7675 no actually famous for jager bombs not whiskey. Just saying.

[@jevgesha]

Don't know if u both have heard true story about Nergal. Actually u can find it just Google it. It's happened 8 years ago Nergal was diagnosed with cancer and almost every church in Poland was almost celebrating and religious people was saying that it's punishment from God for all what Nergal did and doing. But he's fully recovers from that serious sickness.

[@jevgesha]

loudwire.com/behemoth-nergal-leukemia-diagnosis-burst-into-tears/

[@HardKore5250]

More proof of no god

[@Podcir]

And he never prayed during his sickness. He says that in his book. Many people, during their hardest times, who have turned their back on god are asking him for help when being desperate/afraid of dying.

[@xbm7931]

Great work guys! Vin you still working on that song? Can't wait to hear it...that riffed from Fireside is still in my head lol. "Twang Twang Twang Twang Twang FVCK!!!...*Continues playing guitar* Twang Twang Twang" XD

[@timothymeysenburg9160]

I think “liber” is book or text, actually 🤓

[@metal_valkyrie9464]

I absolutely love your Behemoth videos and I am eagerly awaiting that Nergal interview! I must say It is extremely refreshing to not only hear, but also see people who lead a different path than I religiously still being able to maintain an open mind. The fact that you take the time to sit down and listen to understand this kind of art, is admirable. In my experience my favourite metal acts have been demonised and ridiculed by those of Christian faith, but you two have actually opened my eyes into seeing that not all Christians are judgemental of the things they may not necessarily understand Thank you guys for being you! Some faith in humanity has be restored. Also please please please do more Behemoth videos!

[@onk4191]

A snake coiled around the neck and the holy river ganga in my hair is representative of lord shiva!

[@VinAndSori]

So we’ve seen!

[@onk4191]

Bradley has done an admirable job with the back ground. But in that story of drinking the poison, it is interesting to note that Shiva never drank it. He is shown to have held it in his throat because if he swallowed it he would have been destroyed and if he spewed it out the world would have suffered. It is used as an example of dealing with the worlds evil. You will have to drink it but do not swallow it so it does not destroy you and do not spew it out onto the world because that destroys others.

[@emmurewashburn]

Awesome job Sori! Nergal is a really nice guy...I met him on the Evangelion tour and The Satanist....he is down to earth but someone handed him a little bible backstage and he got mad af at that person ...started ripping it up and Shit. .it Was crazy

[@williamdrake6711]

Yeah the I LOVED YOU AT YOUR DARKEST commonly refers to ROMANS 5:8, but that phrase isnt in the bible..

[@dennisvanopstal7360]

William Drake i found the same. Its all over the internet.

[@AlanMoore101]

William Drake also on the upcoming album there is a track titled “Rom 5:8”

[@andrewb2452]

I have to say i really enjoy this channel. I don't really have any religious interest but i do like how deep your lyrical analysis is. I'm always open to listening to alternate points of view even if i don't necessarily agree.

[@blairmitchell7419]

3 days of behemoth! 4 days to go!

[@chestbuster1987]

Thumbs up if you think they should have a week for an artist! It might be better than having a specific subgenre week seeing as how there are so many bands

[@lucay16]

Vin, sori is completely right. You'll hear a lot of "just listening to metal will allow the devil to creep into your soul and possess you.."

[@xlotuseater]

To Sori's point: I never really cared for religion. But was put through a short period of catholic school, and christian church with my family. I was shunned by a lot of the people in the church and was treated like a pariah, because of the way I looked, and what I listened to. It was fine with me, because it was an excuse to not have to go anymore. I've come across a lot of instances that mimicked Sori's point. But, on the other hand, I know some really good religious people. At the end of the day, its stupid when people say all of christians are bad, because of the actions of a small group of them. Also, I'm with you Vin.. There's a lot of peace in solitude.. All of my writing and a lot of my training is done in solitude. Its great to be around people and the factions in lead with my band and brand, but I feel its very necessary to be by myself again.. so I can recharge.

[@omarlopez-ortega]

I totally relate to your point of view. Cheers.

[@walpurgisnacht9234]

Vin I think i agree with Sori on this. Christians judged me for loving metal all the time as a kid.

[@blairmitchell7419]

Sori is completely right. They would say careful little ears.

[@TeamAemrica]

ps. I absolutely LOVED this episode. you two got intense and it made for some solid tv. thanks guys.

[@xlotuseater]

This has been one of my favorite Behemoth tracks in a long while.

[@parsa8941]

Rudy Hernandez same here

[@tryten9]

It's not their best. But it's good. I'm looking forward to album.

[@corpazilum5352]

Yeah, definitely reminds me more of older Behemoth, more allusions to general occultism and such rather than literal Satanism.

[@grysndotwav]

I was worried they would fall off after Satanist but clearly they keep going!!!

[@grimstone8002]

Rudy Hernandez agreed

[@beezer5282]

I'm so glad I found this channel! Dont know how I did, but I'm not gonna question it! LOL

[@NOWAYOUT441]

Sori you’re absolutely correct... I’ve grown up in the church (Baptist) my entire life and my dad is a pastor. I never felt “touched” or “loved” by a god of any kind. I just recently was able to be myself since I moved out and turned 19. I’ve always seen the “box” religion and/or religious people put people into. I’ve been a “disappointment” through my music taste, clothing, and outlook on life. I’m an atheist and enjoy the fundamental philology LaVeyan Satanism. No the mental and physical rejection was not what pushed me away from religion, but it had its play.

[@kenepo1227]

Man this guy is a genius. I love that you guys don't shy from any music, however being an atheist I would love to see a review on Christian song or religious. It would be a great contrast to see the differences in the lyricism. Great video keep it up.

[@Eleleth833]

Thelema is not a Satanism.

[@salamut2202]

Hoever, they're not mutually exclusive at any stretch

[@Xeper616]

Not necessarily, but Thelema does honor the Satan figure. "The Devil” is, historically, the God of any people that one personally dislikes. This has led to so much confusion of thought that THE BEAST 666 has preferred to let names stand as they are, and to proclaim simply that AIWAZ, the solar-phallic-hermetic “Lucifer,” is His own Holy Guardian Angel, and “The Devil” SATAN or HADIT, the Supreme Soul behind RA-HOOR-KHUIT the Sun, the Lord of our particular unit of the Starry Universe. This serpent, SATAN, is not the enemy of Man, but He who made Gods of our race, knowing Good and Evil; He bade “Know Thyself!” and taught Initiation. He is “the Devil” of the Book of Thoth, and His emblem is BAPHOMET, the Androgyne who is the hieroglyph of arcane perfection." - Aleister Crowley

[@Mandibles76]

Great job Sori!

[@CMMaverix]

Nergal said in an interview the title is in relation to what Christ said and named the album after it as it would be incredibly sacrilegious to do put what Christ said on this new album. According to him anyway. It's an interpretation nonetheless I don't think its Christs direct quote.

[@dyingemperor366]

U guys really need to seriously pursue an interview with Nergal! Would be love to see this debate!

[@brianzigs9770]

Imo I think he's bringing ppl together and bringing them close their humanity and their individually . Where the church has been out casting ppl out and their ancestors . Some never forget . Little forgive .

[@VinAndSori]

Good point

[@da_gamers_loft0941]

Love your shirt Vin) Great channel as well👍

[@mikaranta5840]

Sin and Vori

[@themetalkid9864]

Mika Ranta wtf lol 😂😂😂

[@HardKore5250]

Satan could be a female

[@mixowtlawz007]

"There's a serpent coiling around my neck The adoring crescent moon in blazing night. The holy river ganga flowing through my muddled hair" I think he's referring to Lord Shiva in this. There's a serpent in his neck along with a crescent moon on his head. There's a saying that holy river ganga is flowing in his hair. So yeah that's my thinking.

[@matthewwinter5780]

Vin, Sori is right this time. I have been both People. Also, Vin there aren't many real Christians. I will hit you up later when I've got time with some statistics, long story short Take a long look at Hebrews especially Chapter 10

[@HardKore5250]

Matthew Winter How do you tell a fake christian from a real christian?

[@matthewwinter5780]

David Heller I have a 2 fold answer for you. I think Christ himself gave us that Criteria, you will know my followers by their fruits. Paul detailed in Galatians the fruit of the spirit, and Peter came to a similar conclusion when he spelled out the qualities of a Christian. Love, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, gentleness, and self control, against these things there is no law. It isn't my place to judge who may or may not be "real," and I would never do so, because it is between a person and God the condition of their heart. However I see no fruit! I have statistics on things like Chruch attendance vs percentage of those who claim to believe that have any kind of deep Exegetical understanding. Maybe 20% of Christians know what they believe and why, and where to find it. Even worse, of those 20%, how many actually do anything about it?! I hope that adequately answers your question

[@matthewwinter5780]

David Heller this is near and dear to my heart, I've very passionate about moving the Chruch away from creating converts and into growing disciples!

[@HardKore5250]

Matthew Winter ok but couldn’t you be good without a religion for empathy and sympathy if christians are fake or real?

[@matthewwinter5780]

David Heller if you want to email me at [e-mail] I can CC Vin in too if you would like. Getting a little deep for a comments section LOL

[@williamdewey9568]

Vin, while you are correct about the "I loved you at your darkest" not being in the Bible it is understood that that saying comes from this phrase in Romans it's a paraphrased version to get the point across. "While we were yet helpless, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly. Why, one will hardly die for a righteous man - though perhaps for a good man one will dare even to die. But God shows his love for us in that while we were yet sinners Christ died for us." Romans 5:6-8" I'm also surprised to see your "research" on the "Is God to live in a dog?" coincided exactly with my post in the lyric video.

[@pullingtreez9653]

Cattle Decapitation- prophets of loss music video plz

[@codewatcher5921]

Congratulations Vin and Sori for getting noticed by the homie Nergal! *Fingers crossed for interview soon!*

[@orikagon]

Vin, I'm not trying to come off as a smartass, but you have a certain naivete when it comes to the subject of what the majority of Christians say or do to those around them as it pertains to this kind of music. It is an extremely close minded subject. When I was going to church as a teenager and so much of the newer music in the early and mid 90s was becoming more and more extreme, I tried to have conversations about this kind of stuff in Sunday School, with the pastor of the church, and with my own family. In the end all I ever got out of it was punishment, ridicule, and a certain level of hate. I grew up in Knoxville, Tennessee in an Evangelical setting, which later on shifted to Southern Baptist. Even though I was devout at this point, the rumors started going around that I had been talking with other kids that were into that kind of music, looking into that kind of music, and reading about other religions. I was never looked at the same after that. I was constantly left out of church functions, people would be congregating after the service and if I came walking up, they would just walk away. It went as far as the pastor of the church actually having a meeting with me about why I was doing the things I was doing. I was doing everything I could to learn about things to be able to talk to other people because I wanted to be a youth minister, and hoped to go on to be a pastor someday.

[@VinAndSori]

Whoa. I don’t think you’re a smart ass, it’s possible I’m naive ... not convinced but it’s possible

[@orikagon]

When my pastor sat down with me to discuss being part of the ministry, he told me that I didn't deserve it because of my dalliance with satanism. He said that by me studying the things I was studying, and listening to the things I was listening to, I was giving power to evil. Two weeks later, the same man told my stepfather to divorce my mother, who was in a mental institution at the time, because the only thing that was wrong with her was we had allowed Satan into the house and she was the weakest of us. He said to divorce her and the church would stand behind him and help however they could. I never went back.

[@Luemm3l]

had some experiences that fall kinda into that category. for higher school, i went to a private school run by the Dehonists (order of monks). While the school was supposedly open for all other religions or atheists, in religious education you could feel hostility to non-christians, often in a subtle way. Especially against muslims or one buddhist we had (they were obviously the 0.1% minority). Same with the head of school, also a padre who in my first years was something like a father figure to me. When I met him by chance years later and told him I pursue now to study biology, his face became instantly hardened and he had a cold demeanor towards me. The problem I have with large masses of followers of whatever (I have no proof for this but believe it to be somewhat true) is that they NEED an outside, outcast, "enemy" group to themselves have a strong bonds between highly individual persons that are just gathered by that ONE thing (whether that is religion, your favorite sports club or whatever. Fans of Soccer here can become especially nasty in some cases when they meet fans of another team)

[@gabrielbalderas2073]

I really believe that nergal is enraged with God because he somehow allows his representatives on earth to do all those atrocities and instead of recognizing and punishing him they justify it, hide it, and instead persecute those who point them out for everything bad that they do, in the end I think nergal is closer to the grace of God for being a good person and point out what seems wrong, instead of many who are living under the roof that is supposed to be the house of God , since immemorial time the church has persecuted those who do not commune with them making them see how demons when many times the demons are under a tunic ..

[@liamprior4561]

Katatonia-brave

[@Smithysmithin]

Draconian - The Morningstar!

[@xeper.i.set.218]

Venus is also known as the morning star as well.

[@apollyonexe868]

WAIT A MINUTE!!!!!! I just noticed, after listening to this and a few other lyric breakdown videos, you both do all sorts of metal but i haven't noticed any of the Still Life or Blackwater Park tracks broken down in your perspective. Maybe you have, maybe I have missed them/it. :(

[@litearllyjustwater]

59, no need for an award, that just goes with watching the video.

[@randallwellborn1046]

Ehhh... until the rest of the album is released, I'm just going to go back to their oldies. Speaking of, will you please check out Messe Noire? In terms of depth, it blows this out of the water. A work of diabolical art

[@HardKore5250]

Randall Wellborn Slaves shall serve!

[@randallwellborn1046]

David Heller yessummmm 😍👿

[@leexgabriel]

You guys need Dr. Nergal

[@HardKore5250]

Gabriel L No they need Dr. Peter Boghessian and Anthony Magnabosco

[@HardKore5250]

And cordial curiosity

[@misterblades3882]

Nergal just posted about you guys on IG, how cool is that!

[@majesticbird8775]

Vital Remains - Dechristianize

[@HardKore5250]

Buddy Christ They are not ready for that.

[@HardKore5250]

Buddy Christ Deicide Mephistopheles

[@lisajohnson521]

thanks for all of your hard work guys! much appreciated.

[@heavynov]

Uhm, actually "liber" means book.

[@stu_mow]

“Works darker than their wings” by Alter Bridge live at the Royal Albert arena

[@eirikblodks7469]

Taake - Nordbundet offical video!!!!

[@LukeTheTaco007]

Recently discovered the channel. LOVE it. Its fantastic. Not sure if yall did a video on Marilyn Manson. If not check out the song The Reflecting God. Or The Fight Song. I feel as if yall would like either of those lol

[@ayeewtasko2601]

Opeth - Bleak!!

[@parsa8941]

Ayeew Tasko YES, PLEASE!!!

[@parsa8941]

Ayeew Tasko love you're tattoo btw, I'm planning to get it as my first (and probably only) tattoo on my birthday

[@HardKore5250]

Vonbiscum Santanas!

[@SQUIDGYBROWNLOG]

I loved you at your darkest is a translation of 'While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.' Romans 5:8