Vince Gilligan On What Happens to Walter White's Family | Fireside Chat | Breaking Bad

What ends up happening to Skyler, Walt Jr. and Holly? Does Walt die happy? Chris Hardwick gets the answers straight from Vince Gilligan.
Breaking Bad Creator Vince Gilligan sits for a signature KZbin Fireside Chat At KZbin Space LA with Comedian, Host, and Nerdist founder/CEO Chris Hardwick to discuss Breaking Bad’s 10th anniversary. Vince revisits pivotal moments in the history of Breaking Bad, both in front of and behind the camera, adding new insight and detail to the experience of making the show while also sharing his perspectives on storytelling gleaned throughout his career.
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[@devrolo]

Walt was such a bad person by season 5 that they had to introduce actual Nazis as the antagonistic force of the season in order to make the audience have an ounce of sympathy for Walt.

[@justinwillingale2086]

More like a teaspoon lol

[@matilyn_rf]

not to mention he works with and uses the nazis up until it backfires

[@ydd6969]

never even thought about it like that

[@Nonaggress]

And he still happily worked with them until the point where they stopped doing what he told them to.

[@bamig8063]

I think the Nazi's were there to show how much his morals had degraded, having no problem working with them.

[@wolverinefangowings]

Walter Jr didn't want the money because he knew it was connected to his dad. Then he realized how much breakfast he could buy with it.

[@obiwankenobi9439]

Breaking Fast

[@KumiesCummies]

Imagine how many Grand Slams he can buy with that!

[@DH-pz7bc]

He can have all the Raisin bran “crunch”he can eat now. And real bacon and no more veggie bacon.

[@wolverinefangowings]

@@DH-pz7bc and when Skyler tries to tell him frozen yogurt tastes the same as ice cream, he can show her just how insane that is.

[@katliit9442]

He then becomes at fat as huel and then huel meets walt jr at a diner and falls in love with him and they starting dating. We then cut to huel and walt jr with a happy family. The end

[@rolandserna7805]

Skylar probably wrote a book about what it was like to be married to a drug lord

[@ElFlores1984]

Thats so realistic

[@twizzyasl]

Definitely

[@captainbeastwinger4940]

Probably pretended to be some poor victim too

[@Freakcheeks]

i like the theory that says she killed herself after the show because her shadow in her last scene looks like shes hung herself lmao i mean she attempted to before so its defo on her mind

[@ligmamalegrindsetinvestinr9251]

@@captainbeastwinger4940 Exactly HOW DARE SHE BE A VICTIM

[@leotrejo9817]

Walter was still proud of himself at the end for what he was capable of doing. Pride is also what drove him throughout the show.

[@barakaobama4017]

Pride is also what drove him to break bad one last time in Granite state. When Gretchen and Elliot belittled his contribution to gray matter his ego was hurt and from the man who was about to give up and surrender, Heisenberg rised once again.

[@dkupke]

His motivation was resentment. He wanted to teach the whole world a lesson.

[@mr.martyr8573]

Ego. Ego was what drove him.

[@turolretar]

Latent nice guy turned into sigma

[@aultmanfilms4590]

I actually dont think walt was proud of his work at the end but instead was proud of Jessie’s work as Jessie was once a student Walt had failed and now he sees what a success Jessie became because of his teachings. I mean at the end of the day Walt was a teacher

[@engelbertus1406]

Flynn lives to become a director and script writer, and turns his life’s events into one of the most successful TV shows ever: Breaking Dad

[@engelbertus1406]

well, or Breakfast Bad

[@lando6420]

Walter jr*

[@glang5154]

Breaking Fast*

[@jonajust]

Walking Bad

[@Godorel]

Cutting Bread*

[@Thelambking3]

I like to imagine that Flynn writes a book later in life about hank because of that talk they had about never hearing about the good guys

[@MegaSpideyman]

Why are you calling him Flynn?

[@alechenry1502]

@@MegaSpideyman he didn’t want to be called Walt Jr. after everything came to light

[@alainportant6412]

I like to imagine that Flynn writes a b reakfast

[@MegaSpideyman]

@@alechenry1502 Ok, but it's odd to respect a fictional characters' request.

[@bbyponk]

how does he write a book when his fingers are gummy worms

[@abandonallhope.1040]

Too bad we never got to see how Walt's mother felt about all of this...plus how she looked like.

[@ElFlores1984]

probably dead before the show began

[@SomeOneFromOFS]

@@Frazier16 she was alive. Remember the lie Walt told that he will visit her in another city and had Skyler give him a ride to the airport only for Jesse to pull up in the RV a few moments later? Lol

[@ElCanadian14]

@@SomeOneFromOFS that was to go to a "sweat lodge"

[@ell.....]

@@ElCanadian14 no? the sweat lodge was earlier in the series.

[@nikolairostov3326]

@@ElCanadian14 in the episode “4 Days Out” he uses the excuse that he is visiting his mother in a care home.

[@francjameso]

Walt Jr is probably more sad about Hank and misses Hank more lol. Guy always looked up to Hank more than his own father. One of the many reasons Walter broke bad

[@alainportant6412]

Remember he was a bit slow in the head. I mean, who the hell looks up to DEA agents anyway.

[@axelhill8966]

@@alainportant6412 found the friendly neighborhood dealer

[@mrszmatan2727]

@@alainportant6412 First Hank was this fun uncle that was super cool. DEA agent is second job

[@ChristmasCrustacean1]

to be fair, Walt getting Hank killed is what breaks his inflated ego... Walt loved Hank more than he loved himself.

[@tf2freakshow870]

@@ChristmasCrustacean1 I agree.

[@MiladyCC]

I was wondering about this. It's nice to know they actually give Flynn the money

[@mateuszmateuszowy]

They had to or, they otherwise would be assasinated by the best hitmen in those parts

[@hyper.official]

@@mateuszmateuszowy From the West of Mississippi, to be specific!

[@aviationbcey]

Bro is a friend with walter jr

[@mookie1151]

Well yeah, they were annoying but not evil. Plus they probably felt bad for Flynn/Holly/Skylar and a few million is nothing to them.

[@twizzyasl]

Who's flynn?

[@patrickhicks9880]

i think the Marie character could be quite interesting she had a loose grip on reality without Hank she might go off the rails

[@Fersimpdebananirou]

True

[@toophoot2757]

yes lets give her a spinoff and watch chaos ensue! (but no seriously it sounds like a cool idea lol, the writers def can make it work, they're great!)

[@Bigextensions]

Better call marie

[@xX_cumtech_Xx]

Breaking Bad 2

[@joserios4409]

@@Bigextensions please call marie

[@gradientApostle]

I always thought that he was proud of Jesse for having the lab set up correctly and satisfied that he taught him well

[@denisa1009]

Omg YES!! Only one person he truly cared about was Jesse. Proud of Jesse, happy he saved him and releived Jessy doesn’t hate him finally. All about Jesse.

[@jacobshirley3457]

@@denisa1009 Yea, he didn't truly care about Holly. Or his family. Or Hank.

[@Snoem]

@@jacobshirley3457he offered 80 million for Hank?

[@draydinbardon9782]

I think the final song sums walts final feelings perfectly. "Guess i got what i deserved"

[@Buoyant_Bear]

It's pretty incredible how if he had just refused Gus' initial offer and walked away from it before he knew too much, he could've just lived out the rest of those 2 years in financial and standard comfort w/ his family still in tact. He made well over what he initially planned on leaving for the family, and had already fixed up the house and covered the needed repairs earlier on.

[@RoboBreaker]

That was Walt's fundamental mistake. He believed that his role as Provider was more important than his role as Example

[@missilecustoms]

Damn, this rang so much to me now that I’m a father. Thanks buddy!

[@templeodoom4634]

👏

[@moister3727]

He took Gus advice very literally. Provide over everything else, including you and your family.

[@awesomemohawk4511]

You have to realize what was his role before? Walt jr idolized his brother in law over him. He worked two dead end jobs and was going to die being a broken down loser anyway.

[@Pwilliams4000]

@Chris Sears he still likes to provide for his family

[@diegog1853]

I love artist saying "In my mind", "in my way of thinking", "I believe this happens". Because they understand that they are not the be all end all of the interpretation of a piece of art. It is a collaboration, an exchange of ideas between the audience and the artist. Your experience as an audience, what you think happened is not muted or wrong, even if you disagree with the artist in some aspects.

[@TheWazzoGames]

It’s always a treat seeing directors and actors taking about their projects in this way. Well said.

[@PatsRule1224]

"It is a collaboration, an exchange of ideas between the audience and the artist" lol no

[@Bessux]

Death of the author is bullshit.

[@diegog1853]

@@Bessux Didn't even know what that was until now lol. But in general yeah... There isn't a singular perfect way of experiencing art, each person comes with different life experiences that will lead them to different conclusions and interpretations. And a lot of artists not only accept it but expect it and try to write for it.

[@diegog1853]

@@PatsRule1224 lol

[@adriansherlockdamondark.1094]

It's a bittersweet yet perfect ending for Walt. Vince kept it exactly right to the last moment. His marriage is over, he helps his wife. He says goodbye to Holly, he sees Walt Jnr one last time but can not speak to him and knows the young man now hates him. He saves Jesse, he defeats Jack, he sees Todd die, he ends Lydia, he avenges Hank, he has lived and will die on his own terms, not as a victim of cancer...but he has had to do terrible things he never wanted to do and he is still going to die. He's both a heroic and tragic figure, a monster, a clown, a clever man and a fool, but it's uplifting to see him do it his own way, right to the very last breath.

[@slushpuppie19]

Eloquent summary!

[@idkmantbhlol-fp8vq]

I don't think Walt was evil

[@aryan7767]

@@idkmantbhlol-fp8vq evil is such a loaded term, but he definitely didn’t display good morals by the end of the show. He’s a complex character but the bad outweighed the good

[@setsuna7618]

As many people hated Walter White, all I can say is, Walter White showed us what 'human' really is. I cant blame his ego at all because we all have 'Walter White' deep inside us.

[@gipsyredneck]

@@setsuna7618 akchually

[@somebuddyX]

They should do a fake short of "Flynn Begins" with Walt Jr and Holly for like a twenty year anniversary.

[@marcospatricio8283]

That'd actually be a great 1 hour film. 20 years later, Flynn is living his best life with a stable, high-paying job and caring for his mother and sister (who's a little troublesome and vaguely idealizes the father she never met and only heard good things of), and administering his own business with the leftovers of the fund Gretchen and Elliot got him. Things are great, but profits are dropping and he sees himself taking rather unethical decisions to keep himself afloat. Then, on the opening ceremony of a filial said business, one of the two gets drunk and spills the pills to him, telling the money was actually Walter's and they only gave it away to protect their lives. Flynn has to come to terms with the fact that his confort comes from a man he despises. There's some drama with Holly as in a fight she brings up her father, he loses control, and in his fit, says something along the lines of "i am the one providing for this family!!". In the end, he realizes he's starting to go Walter and regrets everything. Is honest with his family and tries to make ammends and live with himself.

[@bigbionk]

@@marcospatricio8283 bravo marcos 👏🏼

[@blobglo]

breaking good

[@WhyTho525]

@@marcospatricio8283 Ngl that would be interesting.

[@johnlewiss7475]

@@marcospatricio8283 bruh

[@Rich88James]

I wish all the very best for Vince Gilligan in his future career. What a story teller!

[@scottslotterbeck3796]

He needs to move on to something else though. Don't be disney and run everything into crap.

[@mrconroy4672]

@@scottslotterbeck3796I do believe he is doing something outright original. He already left the BrBa universe after better call Saul was finished.

[@WadeMFilms]

I like to think that when Gretchen and Elliot, still fearful for their lives, do give Flynn the money on his 18th, Skylar has a mere suspicion that Walt had something to do with it (she has this 6th sense throughout the show I feel). The final shot would be Skylar holding onto Holly’s hand with her eyes showing us that even though Holly’s future is secured like he wanted, Walt would never be remembered as her father, only as the monster he became.

[@PlayzieBum]

If your husband was sneaking off every five minutes, you'd be pretty aware he's cheating or doing something illegal

[@judeconnor-macintyre9874]

@@PlayzieBum And he also has two phones and is acting erratic.

[@Pwilliams4000]

But then again she knows how Walt feels about them they’re the last people she would expect Walt to go to, it’s like Walt and Hector teaming up Hector was the last person Gus would suspect to help Walter

[@baxatakbaxatak2014]

Here’s what happened to Skyler: Doctor: “Ms. White? Did you hear what I said?” Skyler: “Yes. Lung cancer. Inoperable.” *lights cigarette*

[@theredhattergaming]

Jake we need to cook

[@ArinyaXoriGMVs]

Good riddance.

[@electrical7757]

@@theredhattergaming ted

[@elimacdonald9330]

“Ms. White, are you a smoker?” “Yes. Always. Why?”

[@baxatakbaxatak2014]

@@elimacdonald9330 She would wait until Holly went off to college, and after that would probably just smoke until she got cancer, and would refuse to address it. Skyler seems like she would just try to die after the kids were grown and gone.

[@Colt8722]

One things this amazing series teaches is that no matter how awful someone is at their core, there’s someone else out there far worse. Evil knows no limitations.

[@futuremovieactor]

Also shows that anyone with no redeeming qualities is not bad enough compared to worse people who DO have redeeming qualities as well.

[@tf2freakshow870]

True, Walt was absolutely despicable by the end of Breaking Bad, but Uncle Jack is worse.

[@futuremovieactor]

@@tf2freakshow870 Love or hate Walt, he still had redeeming qualities.

[@danhaselton5858]

Actually, the lesson is the same one taught to us 48 years ago by the character of Noah Cross in the film, Chinatown: "You see, Mr. Gittes, most people never have to face the fact that at the right time and the right place, they're capable of ANYTHING." Walt somehow managed to "succeed" in spite of himself - he destroyed virtually every relationship he had, mostly because of his own foolish pride.

[@Colt8722]

@@futuremovieactor what do you mean? Something got lost in translation…

[@mrpuddingpop1]

Isn’t it great having the series creator not be a Walter white number 1 fan boy and just someone who can see the truth in it all.

[@Sernival]

Vince ultimately likes the idea of Walt breaking bad because every man can relate to it, and he wrote practically every other character as antagonists to Walt early in the series. That relatability is why Tony Soprano was so popular despite being a fat crook from New Jersey, he was fed up with everything.

[@alainportant6412]

@@Sernival he was constantly fed up with blacks and gays which is something everyone can relate to, and that is why the show was so successful

[@aardappelmethoed1151]

@@alainportant6412 what

[@relaxulage]

@@alainportant6412 what

[@elementSe34]

@@Sernival But they establish pretty freaking quickly that Walt is no saint and has his problems. That's just such an easy thing to say everyone is in his way-it's not about him being relatable, it's about taking that family man and sending him on a downward spiral.

[@RealFreshDuke]

Walt probably wasn't happy, but he was content. He "saved" Jesse, avenged Hank, and provided for his family. And, as Fring said: "A man provides. And he does it even when he's not appreciated, or respected, or even loved. He simply bears up and he does it. Because he's a man." And that's exactly what happened.

[@12Tecpatl]

The Gus speech was manipulation to make Walt feel pressured and not quit. There were ways out and he was dying of cancer, his family wouldn't have been destroyed if he accepted help and didn't push himself to the limit by this ideal of "providing". Providing ultimately became an excuse.

[@thebelen2359]

@@12Tecpatl This. Walt's ego and feeling of emasculation was part of what drove him to become a drug dealer in the first place and Gus saw that in him, hence the speech.

[@TheSwordfish009]

@@12Tecpatl said it like a true woman. Walt's content ending mirrors what most men go through. Go through hell to provide, get maimed/unrecognized for their accomplishment, die content with that natural fact for life. There's a reason why we die younger than women.

[@goldgunscantshoot973]

@@12Tecpatl These aren't mutually exclusive though. Gus might be manipulating Walt, but Walt might actually believe in these principles in some ways. Of course he's not as committed to them as Gus would ever be and definitely wants to be part of the family he provides for (even believing they'd flee with him)... but when these options were off the table and he had a last job to fulfill, who's to say he didn't feel that satisfaction and sense of meaning Gus was talking about? There's duality in everything, while Walt's pride was his downfall it was also how he briefly rose up again to try and make things as right as they could be after Ozymandias. And the same goes for that Gus speech, I feel.

[@mudken]

@@TheSwordfish009 Lol dude chill out. This idea of glorifying men who does not properly be there for family and actually be a part of the family, and think they do enough by "providing" needs to die. Walter ditched his wife in labour to go deliver drug - what a role model of a man. I'm a guy and I wouldn't do anything to miss my wife giving birth to my child.

[@enormousiserratic8276]

Holly is basically Harry Potter all the most interesting stuff in her life happened when she was a baby

[@smellincoffee]

I'm pretty sure Harry would count defeating Voldemort (PS), defeating a monstrous snake (CS), finding out that a supposed serial killer was his godfather and is actually a pretty cool guy (PA), winning the Triwizard cup and escaping Voldemort (GF), joining a secret society and fighting Deatheasters (OP), destroying cursed devices (HBP) and finally defeating Vodlemort for realies and forever as somewhat interesting.

[@amazinhaydz2032]

Wow. I never thought of that actually.

[@H.K.5]

Idk about that, Harry had a pretty interesting life 😂

[@Jon14141]

@@smellincoffeeNice mate

[@smellincoffee]

@@Jon14141Glad to know my encyclopedic knowledge of HP has impressed someone. Knowing Star Trek lore doesn't have the same effect.

[@gameplayer1980]

I think with so much animosity Walt Jr had for Walt at the end, it showed he was well adjusted and had a great opportunity (and a lot of time) to rebuild his life.

[@Mayflower76]

I would love like Mockumentaries set after BB and BCS which like recaps everything that happened after those 2 series.

[@nostalgiatrip7331]

like the promo for s6 of better call saul? that was awesome

[@legocheese4563]

@@nostalgiatrip7331 need that to be a full hour long episode

[@scottslotterbeck3796]

Write it. That's what fan fiction is for. My guess is they leave New Mexico and move to Ushuaia, Argentina, world's southernmost city. And beautiful, I might add.

[@joshdick7763]

I like how all of the comments are less then 2 weeks old

[@millimetreperfect]

Ive just watched the last episode for the first time 1 hour ago, so this is all very fresh. What to watch next is the big question ?

[@offthepoint2208]

@@millimetreperfect Better Call Saul

[@millimetreperfect]

@@offthepoint2208 thanks, done that now and El Camino!

[@iorilamia]

Why?

[@monon_rahman.79]

@@ttttt1300 yap

[@stringtheoryguitars4952]

That's gonna be an awkward exchange of money though. Skyler will INSTANTLY know that Walt orchestrated it, but will have to hide that knowledge from Flynn. She could tell Marie, and maybe baby Holly in about 18 years. Stupid how people hated Skyler's character. She was friggin' awesome.

[@prafulyadav661]

People were stupid to hate her, but she was not really awesome though

[@MikeCobweb]

It’s because of her terrible character in the earlier seasons. She’s one of the reasons that Walt broke bad. That’s why people resonate with hate towards her despite her amazing character in the later seasons. Sheesh, I’m like Saul to Walt about her in the later seasons, as how he was able to find an amazing woman like her; able to plan accordingly and trying to keep the family and dirty business together.

[@abuabdullah9878]

You know it's good writing and acting when I knew Vince was going to say that Walter was simply satisfied at the end with a final job well done. That wasn't communicated once in the finale and yet the audience can just feel it.

[@penoyer79]

75% of the dialogue in a script can be said without ever saying a word. subtext is everything.

[@kahlilsmoot9922]

We should appreciate writers who answer questions like this and even open up so completely about thoughts and reasons for doing things with characters... Some refuse to explain.. or imagine or open up to what happens after the final cut

[@penoyer79]

There's something to be said for leaving it up to viewer interpretation though. having all the answers isn't always a good thing (See: Star Wars)

[@Pksoze]

That's because those writers are too lazy and never figured out what happened to those characters....so they use the bogus leave it up to your imagination excuse.

[@jkorshak]

I think Walt took a small amount of "satisfaction" in his last moments admiring the lab, the chemistry it represented, the equipment he had personally used, and even how Jesse had apparently been operating the lab at the high standard Walt established in the first place.

[@UmrSamuels]

All of this... Under our noses! ❤️

[@LilWrenchhh]

i wish we had a show about the current timeline and the world after everything that has happened hopefully in saul we something with gene

[@zilentzap]

well it was just commented they found Jessie's car down by the South, like in el Camino and Skylar took a deal which perse suggest yes Saul is still being hunted

[@generalgk]

No you don’t. Let it be done. Good stories need to end.

[@lessur]

you get a little bit of that at the end of BCS

[@notjimpickens7928]

I wrote a comment about this exact scenario in another comment section. The aftermath of BOTH series would be movie-worthy, especially considering how we never got to see how everyone dealt with the aftermath of Walts death and Saul's later conviction. We only get to see Marie for like, 3 minutes at most? And nothing about the other cast members in bcs' ending

[@WhyTho525]

@@notjimpickens7928 Yeah, that would be good, but I fear that many fans would view that movie as another "Fly" episode or "Nippy" episode.

[@redwolf9455]

I didn’t know Vince Gilligan was that old. The fact that they called the event “fireside chat,” which was a radio show that President Roosevelt did, is crazy

[@ershnuff]

I want to see a follow-up of when Gwen and Elliot give the money to Skyler and the family - it would be great to see how the reaction is, if they really believe it's just from them, what they do with the money, etc.

[@nutbastard]

If they followed Walt's instructions, the money would be in an irrevocable trust. So Flynn could either take it or leave it, and believe whatever he wanted to believe, but it would always be there, and just for him. I think, at the very least, if Flynn wanted no part of the money, he'd do something charitable with it.

[@prafulyadav661]

​@@nutbastard Flynn would take the money, just to make things easier for his single mother and an infant sister, he would probably try his best to stay in the delusion that money has got nothing to do with Walt but deep down would always know and hate himself for accepting Walt's blood money

[@setsuna7618]

Im salty we didnt get that conclusion of Walter's family situation at the end of BCS. Seeing Marie in there was so good but I hoped for more =(

[@penoyer79]

they did say that Skylar was spared any further legal implications. Walter's cover did save her.

[@sheldesroches745]

@@penoyer79 They say that she took a plea deal. That is different from immunity. Usually that means confessing guilt and cooperating with the prosecutors in exchange for a reduced sentence, but a sentence nonetheless. So she probably still faced legal consequences, just not as bad as she would have if Walt hadn't helped her.

[@swagtachiuchiha1501]

@@sheldesroches745Walt took most of the blame and she managed to get a deal with the coordinates as well. Othern than laundering money there weren't really any charges they could throw at her if I remember right

[@whitexicanat-large681]

It would be interesting to see holly as an adult research his father and getting obsessed with him.

[@laserbeamlightning]

Chris Hardwick sitting like he bout to be blown off the chair by Vince’s words... bravo

[@brokesmoke101]

Damn, I couldn't even recognize that was Hardwick at first 😂

[@MrBruteSmasher]

I like to think Walt Jr. went on to work for the DEA in some capacity. Obviously not in an enforcement capacity because of his CP but maybe in an investigative sense. He was so inspired by Hank that it’s hard not to imagine that’s what he went on doing.

[@mushedups5404]

The academy hired him as soon as he got back home in the last time we saw him

[@thermalx796]

@@mushedups5404where did you see that

[@mushedups5404]

@@thermalx796 I don't remember making this comment im gonna be fr, I don't even know what i was talking about

[@lukedaley17]

Despite all the bad things Walt’s done and his own family ostracising him. His death in the finale was saddest.

[@nutbastard]

I think Walt's life was a lot more tragic than his death. To live as a shell of a man, and then flip to being a monster, losing everything in the process, knowing that there was no going back, nor could he escape what he'd done... death was his best possible outcome. It's also something that he'd long accepted as immanent. He didn't redeem himself, but he did everything he could to set what wrongs that could be corrected, right. He killed a bunch of Nazi's and rescued Jesse from slavery. He conned the Schwartz's into laundering his money to provide for his son. I don't personally believe that these things tip the scales for Walt back into balance, but they surely doesn't hurt his case.

[@sreenivaskamath4243]

The ending is why Breaking Bad is better than Game of Thrones and is why it is still the greatest tv show of all time.

[@brysonfreeman7226]

And I also definitely hope Succession and Stranger Things will have solidified endings as well, since both Jesse Armstrong and the Duffer Brothers already know where they want their shows to end just like Vince Gilligan did with both Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul

[@KahunaBry]

imagine being responsible for one of, if not the best shows ever

[@WhyTho525]

*two greatest TV shows

[@xlantboi]

@@WhyTho525 and one greatest movie

[@John__Dough]

I think Walt went out happy, and yes satisfied, that he went out on his own terms and won at the end. He was obsessed with winning by the 5th season. His own twisted view of winning.

[@JoJo99xtv]

Imagine Walter junior watching the news and seeing his dad dead 😢

[@heisenberg6142]

@The Legs of Rhulk true but he’s maybe thinking about all of the great times with his dad and dad that their relationship ended with a argument

[@JohnInTheShelter]

Should make a one-hour final ep, years later, just showing the day to day life of the survivors. Not an 'epic,' might not have even a hint of crime, or one mention of Walter. Just "This is how people involved in this live, years after.'

[@hankschrader7050]

Vince has stated that after some time passes he will come back to tell more stories in the BB universe. The only thing that would really make sense in several years from now would be a movie or show centered on Skyler, Walt Jr., Holly, and Marie after they all have gotten used to life post Breaking Bad.

[@superthomasgaming]

Anyone have this full interview?

[@donnaeichenlaub8180]

One of the best TV shows ever. It was great to be able to binge watch it on Netflix and not wait a year in between seasons. lol. I had forgotten so much. It was like watching it for the first time. It was heart wrenching when Hank was murdered. I really wish the writers would have let him live somehow. I know it’s just a show, but I hate to think of Marie going through all the pain of losing such a strong man like Hank.

[@FantasticFinn]

That's crazy, Bravo Vince!

[@anyviolet]

Walt died happy like Gollum died happy. His pride was the Precious.

[@johnbullock8885]

There should be a follow up to this story if they could conVINCE Gilligan to do it

[@hashi.]

Walter Jr show would honestly go hard

[@t221000]

Is there a playlist of this entire interview? Money can never change the fact that they were scarred for life

[@xjimmy225x]

Chris Hardwick is a treasure and I wish the best for him

[@swee7roll]

I love the ending, this is what wanted when I was watching season 4. If Walter couldn't make it, at least Skyler, Flynn, and Holly live peacefully at the end. I just wish they would give us a fan service of them 5 years or whatever years later at the end :(

[@Shiggystardust]

Nah I don’t think skylar gets a happy ending. Surely Marie would have confessed how skylar tried protecting Walt. Marie would have been to distraught from hanks death and would have turned her rage to skylar. Flynn and the baby would have been likely adopted by marie but she wouldn’t be able to cope with hank gone. The kids would eventually be put into the children’s services system and that’s why wal should have ensured wouldn’t happen with Elliot and Gretchen not just his money.

[@penoyer79]

​@@Shiggystardust in Better Call Saul they did say that Skylar got a plea deal or something - so she was spared any further legal implications. I doubt Marie would force the issue against her own sister.

[@Shiggystardust]

@@penoyer79unless Vince wrote it or signed off on it, I don’t accept it

[@mikegillis]

I guarantee that Walter White Jr. doubled down on going by "Flynn" after this.

[@jennymk01]

I wouldn't mind a show about Holly actually. All those stories she hears, something about her trying to figure out the real story of her dad. Jesse is never confirmed dead by the police and Saul is in a prison, what would stop her from trying to find anyone who knew anything about her dad's crimes to make sense of it for herself, instead of through her mom sheltering her, the police and gossip. Could wear his wedding ring on a necklace like he did the last episode.

[@DavidWallz]

I need to rewatch this show

[@deepfriedmilk258]

I bet Walt JR spent all of the money on breakfast

[@mrsticky005]

Walter Jr buys Los Pollos Hermanos and adds a very successful breakfast menu!

[@bendover6442]

i think it would benefit all of us if they made 1 more movie about them and what happened to everyone at the end or like a book even

[@pozitiv7506]

I think it would be an interesting spin-off about Walt Jr., who after all decided to become a DEA agent. How he would learn to compensate for his problems with his mind, how he would be teased that a man named Walter White works at the DEA, how he would prove that he is not his father and take Hank as an example to follow.

[@jayh6997]

Anyone who still had an ounce of sympathy for him at the end missed the point that he was this person long before the events of the past couple years. He just needed a catalyst.

[@glang5154]

Exactly, the amount of people that still believe he did this for some noble reason is astounding!

[@erichancock4618]

@@glang5154 lol I don't believe he did it for a noble reason, but I was still pulling for him at the end

[@kevrms]

@@erichancock4618 the show makes you root for Walt for a huge portion of it, it shouldn't be a huge surprise a lot of people didn't stop even with this pseudo moral crap. Supporting a bad guy in a TV show doesn't make ya evil

[@ChrisM-qo1jc]

In Game of Thrones, Arya Stark has killed over a thousand people. Way more than Walt and everyone roots for her. The way she killed some of them are also really brutal like feeding you your own sons

[@Moofmoof]

I see a ton of people think that he was supposed to be an average guy and anyone could become like him if their circumstances were bad enough. Like nah, Walt was always bitter person that lusted for power he just lacked the courage to do anything about it until then

[@farnacleproductions9471]

Imagine if they made a spin off docuseries that was "filmed" by the students that mimics the wave of netflix documentaries

[@DiscoKing02]

If I was in this situation there's no way I could use the money for my own gain, the amount of horrible things that transpired to obtain it would bring too much guilt, and I wouldn't feel right using it. I'd donate all of it to the best options possible, and rebuild from there.

[@dissplaymusic]

I think Walter in the end was satisfied bcs after all what he did , he achieved his goal in the end. Leaving his family money.

[@TeddyOG]

"I was good at it"

[@TheBasedMan.]

I still think Frank Sinatra's "My Way" suits Walter's death so much more, the lyrics fit him very well

[@panagiotispapageorgiou2590]

That's the exact song that came to my mind when I watched the finale

[@br_ndYT]

Imagine having been the actor for Holly and just having fleeting memories of Walter in your dreams

[@czerwonykwadrat6843]

She has a tiktok now

[@mr.greasy6483]

Walt jr got enormously famous when he started making videos about his experience and appearing on podcasts. He now leads The Hank Schrader foundation to aid drug addiction

[@adibmaulana4278]

Vince sounds like Badger lol🤣🤣🤣

[@20quid]

Skyler and Jesse end up being the only two characters to go into the criminal world and come out alive and free.

[@Pwilliams4000]

Kim…

[@nextarnanas]

bravo vince!

[@hllndsn1]

A man who has never been truly hungry in his life.

[@Yezpahr]

I don't fully believe Flynn would accept the money, they must realize it came from Walt instead, and proceed to pry it out of the owners of Grey Matter. Furthermore, I think Walt was smiling because he completed everything he set out to do those final days, he killed Lydia, broke Madrigal, deleted his final enemies and won't go to jail over any of it. He also saw the state of the lab and was proud of Jesse for keeping his product in honor and for staying alive up to that moment under those conditions.

[@Sernival]

Walt left them 9 million, so over the course of their lives they could accept a reasonable chunk before the possibility sets in. Maybe Skyler and Jr. only accept 737k, and the Schwarz' set the rest in a trust fund for Holly.

[@MegaSpideyman]

@Yespahr Why are you calling him Flynn?

[@johnroach9026]

@@MegaSpideyman Walt Jr refers to himself as Flynn to disassociate himself from his dad

[@Yezpahr]

@@MegaSpideyman Meh, he went back and forth with the name, kinda stuck with me when I need to talk about Walt & Walt.

[@backtoklondike]

@@Yezpahr Plus it's very likely he legally changed his name as soon as he could. He hated his dad so he would want to erase that connection to him. Even if he didn't hate him, he'd still change it because being the son of a ruthless drug lord is bad enough, even though he didn't even know about it. Sharing the same name is even worse so it's better to change it.

[@autumnwoodsucks]

“we all know people or know of people…uh…” truly wise words from an amazing screenwriter and producer

[@noel-ts3jr]

Bravo

[@JB-jt6oq]

Very cool how open he is explaining the ending... For me, the best ending in any media.

[@johnpomales416]

Especially the fact that he saved Jesse’s Life.

[@lessonmet5291]

Though "happy" would be too strong a word to use how Walt felt during his last breath, There is no doubt he would have felt worse if he had dies done nothing at all for his health, family, or himself. Dying weak would have made his life pointless. He died showing the world he was his own man. And lots feared him for it.

[@CatharticSense]

1:07 this is a very common misconception. _"Because you don't remember it actively, it doesnt hurt you (as badly)."_ The youngest years have the biggest effect.

[@thenablade858]

Yes, birth from 5 years old is the most crucial stage of child development, but Holly’s life had a sense of normalcy (even though it wasn’t normal) and she wasn’t directly affected until the end of the series when Walt kidnaps her. I think she’s emotionally detached enough to potentially write her father’s story.

[@atune2682]

Exactly what I thought. Glad Vince thinks so too

[@jaexiusnem1267]

Walt junior gonna be sad with all that money while doing donuts in a dodge charger

[@rebel1717]

I’d like to think Skylar would IMMEDIATELY figure out that Gretchen and Elliot’s trust fund was Walt’s doing. Even if it’s several months after his death, she knows he’d have been involved in some way. Either that or she’d have become absolutely paranoid about any kind of rise in money. To the point where even if they got a large sum of money from a source completely unrelated to Walt, she’d overthink it, and not trust it. What she and Flynn would do with the trust after they receive it is a bigger mystery

[@MegaSpideyman]

Why are you calling him Flynn?

[@rebel1717]

@@MegaSpideyman Because I'm pretty sure he'd disown the Walter Jr. name by this point.

[@CommunistPanda1776]

@@MegaSpideyman its his name?

[@alphanerd7221]

@@rebel1717 That's asinine. Dude went by that name for one episode.

[@nutbastard]

"if they got a large sum of money from a source completely unrelated to Walt, she’d overthink it, and not trust it. " The source of the money is not "completely unrelated to Walt". The Schwartz's were literally interviewed on national television about their connection to Walt through their college days and later, Grey Matter. Elliot also offered to pay for Walt's treatment, even offered him a job. At every turn they expressed genuine concern for Walt and his family. Now that he isn't around to turn down their generosity, it makes perfect sense that they'd put forth some financial help. They know as well as anyone, better, really, what Skyler and Walt Jr have suffered. I don't know if you know any seriously rich people with kind hearts, but I do. They don't look at money the way most people do. For most, it's this constant need, an hourglass always running out. For them, it's a tool, a wrench they can turn to make things happen. The amount that Walt left is substantial, but it's pennies to the Schwartz's, and also it's not coming out of their pocket. They have no reason not to go through with it, and every reason to go through with it. The optics are there. It's a plausible story. One that would certainly be scrutinized by authorities, but Elliot has good lawyers, and could make the trust air tight.

[@2pixelwide]

Walt Jr ascends the Iron Throne obviously

[@jonnyxrey]

My biggest problem with the ending is I have a hard time believing Gretchen and Elliot could just gift millions of dollars to the family of a notorious serial killer/drug lord they were previously associated with without the gov’t stepping in or at the very least without it severely damaging the reputation of their company. Wouldn’t that look a little sus? I mean, they know they never recovered all of his money; and they know that he acquired it extremely illegally, so, if after his death his family suddenly shows up with millions in a trust won’t the cops be suspicious or even try to seize those assets or anything purchased with it down the line? Hopefully Gretchen and Elliot would at least be smart enough just to burn Walt’s money and set up a trust in Flynn’s name with their own money. It’s still gonna look sus but at least it’s impossible to prove the money isn’t legit and they certainly have more than enough cash of their own to spare.

[@blueshit199]

Vince Gilligan is like God, first he creates a man and makes his miserable on purpose, and then he goes "this man doesn't deserve happiness"

[@NemoWasHere]

Vabro Invce 🎉

[@yurifairy2969]

Walt is a prideful parasite that hurts everyone around him. He had multiple chances to be happy and he chose misery each time.

[@JulzGein_]

That makes Jesse Jesus

[@NemoWasHere]

@@JulzGein_ Jesse or Gale

[@theblobconsumes4859]

@@JulzGein_ No, we all know Huel is Jesus.

[@JangaLangaBanga]

I would ask Vince: what do you think Hank would have to say if from beyond the grave he was able to watch the final 15 minutes of Walt's life?

[@VantaDraws]

“Should have invested in minerals, buddy”

[@omy007]

Whatever happened at the end. Walt was happy or not, satisfied or not. For me it didn't matter. I was just happy to see Jessee free. This poor guy was living a normal life at the start of the season. It was so sad to see him in these awful conditions. Feel for Jessee.

[@atune2682]

i miss the show already hahahaha and its only been a month since i finished it

[@WilloftheFans]

The fact that people still dissect that excellent final episode is a testament to how good the show was, and how far entertainment has fallen since, outside of Gilligan's productions.

[@lilithdemonia74]

Yeah compare this series and the finale to what they did on Dexter....wow.....

[@alphanerd7221]

People do that for last episodes of any moderately popular show. Breaking Bad is Okay. It's no great show and plenty of better ones are on.

[@ZeroSmoke.]

@Invader Rym Not many that are better than Breaking Bad. Maybe The Sopranos?

[@WhyTheHorseface]

Walter’s life was one of dissatisfaction, compromise, and unrealized potential… until he became Heisenberg. As Heisenberg he pushed himself in every way to be the best he could be. He applied his best chemistry, his best management, his best cunning and ruthlessness… The lesson of Breaking Bad is don’t compromise too much of yourself, don’t live a half-life. Or you may die unhappy, unsatisfied, with nothing but unrealized potential collecting dust in a frame on a wall.

[@apmire]

Literally me. I think I will tho, how unfortunate

[@WhyTheHorseface]

@@apmire you’re not alone. Take a chance. Make something happen today. You will be alive for a long time. Start being who you really are. It’s never too late.

[@swee7roll]

Full measure

[@mikhailvarkovsky4150]

Better to be a druglord who killed and ruined the lives of others including your own family than dying of cancer while using the money from Elliot and Gretchen so they can have their own closure. You're dead in two years anyways

[@goblinslayer7096]

I really thought would try some of his own product in the end.

[@ultimatejager4058]

I appreciate he didn't give us any answer, and he just said "I like to think...". Some stories should not be narrated beyond their official ending, especially the most nuanced ones. Too bad there are far too many authors who act like their interpretetion of what happened after the conclusion of their story is the actual continuation, even though they're not telling us a new story, but only a bunch of meaningless facts based upon their personal feelings on that story. Being the author doesn't make those which are in fact just your own interpretations of the story more legitimate than the interpretations any other person can make

[@JoeR203]

What if Elliot and Gretchen decide to keep the money? Then Walt Jr. will have a lot of missed breakfasts

[@judeconnor-macintyre9874]

They won't keep the money. They think the greatest snipers will kill them if they do and it's not like they needed the money.

[@alwilliamsubs2453]

lol

[@nathanmcandrew4778]

Maybe I'm alone here, but since seeing El Camino, specifically the scene of Jesse listening to the news of Walt's death on the radio, I've been dying to know how Walt's mother must be feeling

[@Rob2068]

Walt also Satisfied and a little happy that Jesse lived and was set free. Walt figured Jesse suffered more than enough and it was time for that to be over.

[@gorillachronicles]

I was really late to watching TV series so a few years ago I picked up breaking bad and I finished it and I thought it was the most amazing thing I'd ever seen and then I watched The sopranos and I was confused because by the end of breaking bad I wanted Walter to succeed no matter what happened but throughout the entire sopranos run I never once was like wow I really hope Tony soprano has great things happen to him

[@awesomemohawk4511]

Nobody wants to admit it but deep down we can all sympathize with how Walt was working two regular boring jobs and was over shadowed by his brother in law and just said f it I am going to live and make some money my way

[@kvngvastro]

Lol

[@zonefitzgerald]

Skyler White continued working menial jobs to keep her family afloat, but she kept a low profile, and continued supporting Walter Jr. as much as he would allow her. Luckily she had her sister as the only support system, but she never got rid of her guilt over losing Hank because of Walt. Walter Jr. became bitter and made sure to get to some college far away from home, just to try and restart his life, but never sharing much about his past with new friends. And Holly White is probably the only one who gave them some level of joy as she grew up, and kept growing unaware of her family history.

[@Pwilliams4000]

Until one day when Holly was all grown up she went to visit Saul in prison to ask him about Walter

[@jabrilbedeir2458]

Just his response makes the show more wholesome even though it’s all about turning bad