Vince this is exactly what I needed. Thorough, step by step instructions done with different techniques. THANK YOU!
@VinceVenturella7 жыл бұрын
Happy to help as always sir. :)
@georgedebleu7 жыл бұрын
Enjoyable, entertaining and informative as always! Forty years ago, we called the "pigments" chalk pastels. You'd take a quality chalk pastel, grind it on a very fine sandpaper film or use a fine file or emery board, to get your "powder" and use the same techniques on models (real model kits - NOT _miniatures_ ) and miniatures as well.
@VinceVenturella7 жыл бұрын
Very cool, I think there are many that still do that today honestly, but I have never given it a try.
@thoughtstream95917 жыл бұрын
Still do :)
@DrParka3 жыл бұрын
At first I was not sure about the pigments, but they're definitely a game changer when it comes to adding details. Thank you as always Vincent 👋🏼
@VinceVenturella3 жыл бұрын
Happy to help!
@von2320 Жыл бұрын
After all these years, I keep find myself in your caring embrace Vincey V.
@VinceVenturella Жыл бұрын
Always happy to help.
@codelicious65905 жыл бұрын
Great tips thanks! I actually did not know that alcohol could be used as a pigment fixative, so that little tidbit saved me a few bucks.
@VinceVenturella5 жыл бұрын
Happy to help as always. :)
@gager732 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sending this to me. It's really cool and I love the textured effect that the pigments give. Makes your miniature feel more realistic.
@VinceVenturella2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. :)
@davidturner79033 жыл бұрын
Pigments are definitely the way for me to tackle applying concrete dust on top of my armored vehicles. When I looked for pictures of Tanks in an urban setting, there's usually this thin film of concrete dust on the horizontal surfaces. Thank you for this tutorial.
@VinceVenturella3 жыл бұрын
Right on, always happy to help.
@pervyturtle26732 жыл бұрын
About to start using pigments for the first time and this is exactly what I was looking for
@VinceVenturella2 жыл бұрын
Awesome, happy to help.
@Wijkert3 жыл бұрын
I recently bought some new pigments from Vallejo I really like the color of. Have you ever tried to mixing them with a medium to make your own paints? This though occurred to me after using the GSW metal pigments, where we don't have any other option but to mix up stuff ourselves. Ps the fact that you answer all the comments is just the best thing. You are an angel Vince!
@VinceVenturella3 жыл бұрын
Always happy to help. Yes, I have done this, I even have a video about it - kzbin.info/www/bejne/n5rbd5qbrdOskKM
@johnmattioli90775 жыл бұрын
Vince...I just found this video...Super cool technique. Thanks for your sharing it with me.
@VinceVenturella5 жыл бұрын
Excellent, happy to help as always. :)
@bronsonbarnhart80852 жыл бұрын
Before adding the pigment, the colors and how matte the model was was just AWESOME! What paints did you use? I assume you used an airbrush?
@VinceVenturella2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, just some simple military greens through the airbrush.
@peterridder21167 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot! I have these pigments at home for years now and never dared to use them :D Could you also do a pigments-on-bases-tutorial any time soon?
@VinceVenturella7 жыл бұрын
Sure, the techniques are much the same, though you often use more pigment and you definitely have to fix it then. If you go and look at the Urban and Waste Bases tutorials I did recently, I use some pigments in those videos which may be helpful until that point.
@Henry-lk5pm3 жыл бұрын
really helpful vid Vince, thanks. Question - Do you think the alcohol could be sprayed on with a little pump spray spritzer-type bottle - to minimise risk of pulling off carefully placed pigment?
@VinceVenturella3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, I think that would work fine, but you would want to stay far enough away.
@EviLNox85 жыл бұрын
If you dip the wet alcohol brush into a pigment pot wont it cause clumping in the pot? I saw on the pallette that after dipping a few times the pigment looked like it bonded to itself and made a glossy looking pool in the area you were dipping. Will it just dry out again and behave normally or will that section kind of be like a dried chunk of acrylic?
@VinceVenturella5 жыл бұрын
It will cause some lumping, so you want to be careful, but that being said, if you get a clump here or there, you can always let it dry out and break it up later.
@MrFrostyankles2 жыл бұрын
Really fun idea. What few colors would you recommend?
@VinceVenturella2 жыл бұрын
A good rust, a good brown a good green can all be magic.
@MrFrostyankles2 жыл бұрын
@@VinceVenturella Thanks but what is a good rust, brown, and green? :)
7 жыл бұрын
Back to badoops, I see. I'm particularly impressed with the green on the robot- I got my start in 40k so I haven't really spent much time doing the more muted colors of non-sci-fi/fantasy, it's definitely something I want to work on. Would you say that the bulk of the highlighting on the upper panels was airbrushed, or with a manual brush blending technique?
@VinceVenturella7 жыл бұрын
That model is basically all airbrush. There is some slight touches and edges with a bad brush I had, but that was a speed paint with airbrush during a class with Caleb Wissenback. Don't remember the exact green, but it was a tamiya green with an ochre highlight.
@70rayvn7 жыл бұрын
Loved the Bob Ross reference there
@VinceVenturella7 жыл бұрын
A personal hero and something I really believe in. I think too many people let fear of mistakes stand in the way. Some of the best things I have done were accidents that just worked - the rest, well you can just paint over. :)
@Wijkert4 жыл бұрын
Trying new stuff: used pigment for the first time yesterday. I am trying to represent burned earth with Carbon Black from Vallejo. I remember you said (in this video or another one) that you can either activate the pigment with IPA or seal it in with a varnish. I tried activating it by brushing on the IPA. I think it worked, but also moved the pigment around, which is not what I was looking for. So what about using the airbrush to spray the IPA? Would that work? Will also try to seal it with varnish the next time I use pigment and see what that looks like.
@VinceVenturella4 жыл бұрын
So the key is you want to use a pipette and drops of the ipa so it doesn't run anywhere. You can use the airbrush, it general, unless the airbrush is very close, it won't blow off any pigment.
@Knittywizard Жыл бұрын
Do you ever varnish a model and then apply pigments with fixer as the final step? or does that cause problems or look weird.
@VinceVenturella Жыл бұрын
Sure, I'll often do pigments as a final step, though I don't often use fixer, I just work them in tightly.
@Wijkert4 жыл бұрын
Hi Vince, I am painting bases with stone on them and am looking for a mossy effect. Would a green pigment (e.g. Chrome Oxide Green from Vallejo) work for this particular use case? If not, would you recommend any other product besides moss tufts from miniNatur (which I own already).
@VinceVenturella4 жыл бұрын
It depends on the size of the moss. So you can use green pigment for a very light effect, like what stains ocean rocks. You can use the scatter green flock from railroads for slightly larger moss, and you can step it up to small clump foilage for really large growths.
@adrienbellon-serre89303 жыл бұрын
Hey Vince, as always :) thank you for your content !
@VinceVenturella3 жыл бұрын
My pleasure! Always happy to help. :)
@Wijkert3 жыл бұрын
I also have hear that you can use white spirit is an activator. Have you have any experience with using that and if so, how does it compare to IPA?
@VinceVenturella3 жыл бұрын
Never tried it, but it's an interesting idea, seems like it would work.
@brianm70346 жыл бұрын
Have you tried cosmetic powders as pigments or are their composition not suitable? I noticed they come in hundreds of shades and colors. I've searched the internet and KZbin and haven't found an answer.
@VinceVenturella6 жыл бұрын
I haven't tried them, but I would have to imagine it could work. I will have to raid the wife's make-up cabinet and see what I can do. ;)
@MrTheheirarchy6 жыл бұрын
Tamiya makes a pigment set just like that
@captainn25022 жыл бұрын
Thank you for you tutorial on how to use pigments!, I intend to use them to create a desert base on minis for gaming, so I need to protect the pigments using a matte varnish rattle can spray. For some reason, I just cannot get it right. Either I spray it too light and the pigments still comes off when you touch it, or I spray it on to thick (I guess) and the pigments turn white. The rest of the mini does NOT turn white with the same amount of spray on it. Do you have any idea what I could be doing wrong and how to prevent it? Thank you!
@VinceVenturella2 жыл бұрын
You could always try a fixer through a pipette, that might be an option as well. I use a light mix of satin adn ultra matte varnish through the airbrush.
@captainn25022 жыл бұрын
@@VinceVenturella Thank you for your response! :) I have tried Vallejo's pigment binder, and also airbrush thinner and liquid matte varnish (also both Vallejo). I tried each of them by applying the binder/thinner/varnish first and then adding the pigments, and by adding the pigments first and then pipetting the binder/thinner/varnish. It makes the pigments not fall off when you tap the mini or blow the pigments, but when I touch the pigments with my finger they still leave a (in this case) brown smear on my finger. I know there are also dedicated pigment fixers (instead of binders) on the market. Do you know if they work differently?
@VinceVenturella2 жыл бұрын
@@captainn2502 They tend to be a little stronger, as they have additional additives, so might be worth an investigation.
@IDICBeer7 жыл бұрын
Excellent content and tips thanks. Very useful
@VinceVenturella7 жыл бұрын
Glad to help as always.
@sapper12b712 жыл бұрын
Contrast medium is a glaze medium right? Citadel is unfortunately the only thing I'm familiar with.
@VinceVenturella2 жыл бұрын
It is not, it's some mixture of thinner, flow improver and probably a small amount of retarder. So it's sort of a mix of things.
@MrH-GB4 жыл бұрын
How comes the Iso isn't removing the paint underneath? I use it to strip minis so I would think it would destroy the paint underneath.
@VinceVenturella4 жыл бұрын
That small amount of iso is acting as a binder for the pigment which is absorbing it, it doesn't have a chance to break down the paint. It has to be a large amount as it's not that directly destructive to acrylic paint.
@MrStatistx4 жыл бұрын
Greetings into the past: If I use isopropyl, I assume it needs to be varnished beforehand? Not sure if I missed it or if it was implied by using pigments as the very last step (so after varnish) anyway. Also I got 99% isopropyl, are those 9 extra % an issue you think?
@VinceVenturella4 жыл бұрын
So I use isopropyl to fix it, basically, I don't varnish it before. I put some drops of the alcohol to fix it, then varnish all over at the end of the process if necessary.
@MrStatistx4 жыл бұрын
@@VinceVenturella curious. I would have thought isopropyl strips the paint, as it's used to strip minis, but I guess it would need to be in contact longer. Thanks for clearing that up
@brendanrichardson37633 жыл бұрын
Great video, very helpful, thank you 👍
@VinceVenturella3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@Iameddie2go3 жыл бұрын
Do you use pigments also like you would highlighting and shadowing? Have you ever done that?
@VinceVenturella3 жыл бұрын
You can, I have a video on actually painting with pigment. You can also mix your pigments to contour, especially on terrain, much like a make-up tutorial.
@npwroblewski7 жыл бұрын
Have you had success with the warcolour pigments if you’ve tried them? I’m always eager to put my money towards what I find to be a very lovable product range and business.
@bartekkucharski38807 жыл бұрын
Hey. We all know your hate for metal minis but with Aristea coming soon will you paint some Infinity models?
@VinceVenturella7 жыл бұрын
I looked at the figs, I would need to see the minis to make sure the sculpts are actually quality. It's a question of the molds and whether they will be up to their normal standards (boxed games like this often have lower quality as they are produced in China at a lower cost). I would say I am tentatively optimistic.
@bartekkucharski38807 жыл бұрын
Vince Venturella quality is the same as Infinity.
@VinceVenturella7 жыл бұрын
That's good to hear. Do you know can you get the figs separately? I didn't see that. I suppose timing wise, I can always see them in person at Adepticon, which is the next time I might have some space in my painting schedule. ;)
@bartekkucharski38807 жыл бұрын
New 4minis warbands will be released soon but dont know any prices yet.
@stefanblackadder52363 жыл бұрын
Do I need a special pigment fixer or can I use Vallejo Matt varnish as well as alcohol.
@VinceVenturella3 жыл бұрын
varnish, any acrylic wash, pigment fixer, anything like that will work.
@KerfluffinMcWooly5 жыл бұрын
I am not familiar with Isopropyl alcohol. Does it come as 90% ish or do you dilute it with something?
@VinceVenturella5 жыл бұрын
When using it for either fixer or cleaner, I use either 91% or 99% isopropyl alcohol. I just get mine from amazon.
@Iameddie2go3 жыл бұрын
Also, I've noticed the pigments dull in color dramatically after applying the clear varnish. Does this also happen if I first apply IPO and then varnish?
@VinceVenturella3 жыл бұрын
It will happen in most cases if you use something to affix. That's why, for my display miniatures, I don't actually apply anything like that.
@Iameddie2go3 жыл бұрын
@@VinceVenturella I guess what I'm asking is this: if I apply the IPA as fixative it will dull out, almost to the point of not seeing anything there. If I then apply varnish does the color dull further?
@VinceVenturella3 жыл бұрын
@@Iameddie2go In general no, it will happen once from being affixed.
@hobbithubby50762 жыл бұрын
What’s a good basic pigment set to get started with?
@VinceVenturella2 жыл бұрын
Vallejo makes a couple of good rust/weathering 4 packs that are an excellent place to start.
@TriptonStudios3 жыл бұрын
Does using Alcohol to fix the pigment maintain its jockey dusty appearance that’s been my greatest pitfall I wanna be able to fix pigments without losing the dusty look
@VinceVenturella3 жыл бұрын
Once it dries, you will have the dusty look back yes. There will oten be a very slight color change, but it will dry "dusty"
@TriptonStudios3 жыл бұрын
@@VinceVenturella Awesome, I don’t mind the slight darkening of the color, it’s similar to the change you get from matte semi gloss, gloss as in the higher the gloss the darker it looks Thank you Vince!
@aprilcot89533 жыл бұрын
Do you varnish the model before or after applying pigment?
@VinceVenturella3 жыл бұрын
Usually after, with an airbrush, unless it's the truly final step, where I am dusting feet or something and it's a display model, then there is no need to varnish.
@aprilcot89533 жыл бұрын
@@VinceVenturella thanks
@Filiplego15 жыл бұрын
If I use pigments for models and dioramas that are not going to be touched, I don't need a fixer?
@VinceVenturella5 жыл бұрын
If they are for display only, then in general, no, you don't really need to fix them, a little drop of alcohol here or there can be a good middle ground.
@josh16745 жыл бұрын
I fixed my pale blue pigment with AK matt varnish. It removed it (darkened it to the point of invisibility). Guess I should use alcohol!
@VinceVenturella5 жыл бұрын
I find alcohol changes the color very minimally.
@sclogse14 жыл бұрын
I imagine that one could experiment with just about anything to add to the pigment to get it to behave. As long as the added material behaves when you set the stuff. By the way, Testor's Dullcoat is just insanely rude to use especially if you're going to seal a 31" 20,000 Leagues Nautilus...You could mix it in with Sculpy, or an epoxy, or even something thick and neutral in color to make it easier to apply, more like a cream. Hmmmm..... Hair texturizer..... Do people ever put the alcohol in a spray bottle and apply it that way instead of brushing?
@VinceVenturella4 жыл бұрын
I haven't seen anyone do that with alcohol, it might blow some pigment off or around would be my ponly concern.
@arthuromendoza9494 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this tutorial
@VinceVenturella4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome 😊
@bubbadaluva1913 жыл бұрын
Hello, I was curious what is the alcohol mix ?
@VinceVenturella3 жыл бұрын
FOr fixing pigment, more or less just 91% or above isopropyl.
@Hepabytes7 жыл бұрын
Where'd you get the robit?
@VinceVenturella7 жыл бұрын
I got it at a Hobby Seminar some time back from Caleb Wissenback (highly recommend his classes if you can take them if you want to get into airbrushing). The fig is from Warlord Games Konflikt 47.
@ikkiiiieee5 жыл бұрын
would flow improver make the pigments settle? the same as glaze medium would?
@VinceVenturella5 жыл бұрын
Flow improver probably wouldn't do it as well (as it doesn't tend to have medium or be a solvent). You can use alcohol or any medium. Alcohol is nice as it doesn't change the color much.