These doxxers need to be well-known and blacklisted for the sake of everyone's safety. Their attitudes and way of thinking are those of repeat offenders.
@maggie30606 ай бұрын
Even if you are not guaranteed to repeat offence with doxxing they should still be blacklisted for at least a while.
@userunknown10305 ай бұрын
yeah why do vtubers think they can stay hidden for ever if you where scared going into this maybe you shouldn't be trying to do this as a job. not say what these people did is right or wrong but if you put yourself out there this is bound to happen one way or the other.
@userunknown10305 ай бұрын
@@maggie3060 yeah why do vtubers think they can stay hidden for ever if you where scared going into this maybe you shouldn't be trying to do this as a job. not say what these people did is right or wrong but if you put yourself out there this is bound to happen one way or the other.
@leslynieto72205 ай бұрын
what are their names? I want to stream more and want to get their names out
@persephonehades7547Ай бұрын
@@userunknown1030 ...They put themselves out there because they wanted to entertain. They don't want to put themselves, their family, or other people in danger. Some family members (*cough* boomers *cough cough*) will put literally everything out there, and then just a single name can doxx not just the vtuber but literally dozens of people at the same time. Being a streamer online doesn't give the audience permission to know everything and everyone in their lives and where they live, were born, etc.
@wendychouxx6 ай бұрын
They are horrible people, I’m so glad she sues them
@AngelaLin-t9w6 ай бұрын
All people who dox people are horrible
@smoothbrian.39976 ай бұрын
Let’s hope that she makes an example of these scumbags.
@userunknown10305 ай бұрын
its kind funny they get mad being on a public website of course things like this are going to happen you can't stay hidden on the internet for ever that is just the way it is. if you where scared of being stocked harassed this isn't a place you should have though about starting a career. yeah it sad and wrong what these people did but at the end of the day that is the risk you take when doing things like this.
@kike76315 ай бұрын
@userunknown1030 Trying to downplay a literal crime because "they're on the internet" is such a stupid argument. Equivalent to me saying, "If I walk outside and get attacked by someone, that's my fault for going out." They actively commit a crime to steal personal information to threaten and harass, that isn't run of the mill behavior and shouldn't be disregarded as a "risk if being on the internet."
@userunknown10305 ай бұрын
@@kike7631 its not crime every where just because it might be a crime in your country doesn't mean it is crime another like i said where i am it isn't a crime. deal with it.
@whoahanant6 ай бұрын
They sound like they're serial doxxers and pretty close to stalker territory too tbh.
@goofyrat29386 ай бұрын
Honestly I’d already say they’ve crossed over into that territory. They stalked her online to find all that information and then published it.. yikes
@__BlacklotuS__5 ай бұрын
def stalkers
@userunknown10305 ай бұрын
@@__BlacklotuS__ yeah why do vtubers think they can stay hidden for ever if you where scared going into this maybe you shouldn't be trying to do this as a job. not say what these people did is right or wrong but if you put yourself out there this is bound to happen one way or the other.
@etoile2655 ай бұрын
@@userunknown1030bro what?
@userunknown10305 ай бұрын
@@etoile265 i mean most hide who they are because they know the internet isn't save then they do dumb stuff and at shocked when their info leaks.
@mozzapple6 ай бұрын
This guy DEFINITELY had ill intentions, he just doesn't have the balls to do any of the disgusting things he wanted to do
@BeepBoopBee6 ай бұрын
I once sent money to another vtuber through PayPal, noticed it was a different name than the vtuber name, asked them if that name was supposed to be there and suggested using a business account instead to fix it. That is how you handle accidentally seeing someone's real name when you're not supposed to. Bring it to their attention, help them fix the issue and NEVER mention that information to someone else. You take that secret to the grave. I'm also very pleased to know that doxing is also illegal in my country, which means I don't have to worry about that as much
@naraku9716 ай бұрын
Yeah, I've found online friends completely by accident. I knew an online friend's real name via paypal because I regularly buy from her, and she had her real name as her instagram, and we follow one another around the internet at this point.
@jan_harald6 ай бұрын
it's technically illegal in most countries, afaik it's just a small enough crime that people rarely bother to deal with it, much like if you go to court for someone stealing 100 bucks, you'll probably lose, because it's too small amount for the courts to bother with generally you'd need other stuff in addition to that, I mean, even major creators doxing don't get real punishments, even though it's a crime just like technically using open wifi spots you're not explicitly allowed to use, is teeeechnically illegal, but nobody cares until they can pile it among a ton of other stuff
@sharpcrab77385 ай бұрын
Tf it is legal in some country?
@userunknown10305 ай бұрын
@@sharpcrab7738 yeah but if your country doesn't and most likely wont hold up other countries laws lol. most countries say if your in the public domain you accept all risk with doing so only protecting those who aren't openly using their persona to get and make money like vtubers some countries don't care if they get unmasked doxxed because again you are in the public domain its up to you to protect yourself. they will only step in or do something about if you have proof that it is causing you harm and it can't just be feelings.
@vouxess5 ай бұрын
@@sharpcrab7738obviously in Japan
@shangothunder10556 ай бұрын
“Went to 4chan to defend himself”. Explains a lot about them…
@pantamews6 ай бұрын
Defending yourself in a known problematic website 4chanie person type behavior 💀 its always 4chanie people who LOVE Doxxing
@naenae23506 ай бұрын
Bro not even 4channers liked the guy according to his replies aint no waaaaay💀
@pantamews6 ай бұрын
@@naenae2350 you know someone's fucked up when 4channers wont side with them when it comes to doxxing topics and shit 💀💀
@Magenta-b1i6 ай бұрын
Please tell me that she will take legal action against these people, because for people like these, justice is the only way
@rallicat696 ай бұрын
Luckily she is! You can see it at the end of the video where she says she got a lawyer and sent a letter to all of them.
@userunknown10305 ай бұрын
@@rallicat69 cool to bad nothing these lawyers can do about it lol. your in the public domain making and earning money you can't stay hidden for ever and you don't get more rights then anyone else because you want to hide behind a mask.
@AshleesBathroomАй бұрын
@@Gizzardx0yes it is
@LeahL0v3sY0u26 күн бұрын
@@Gizzardx0 it is lol, its leaking personal information without consent, and the fact they had it and would hold it over irina's head makes it alot worse for them
@xxcardi-of7lm6 ай бұрын
SHE GIRLBOSSED WITH THAT LAST LINE HOLY SHEET
@M00Nii_z6 ай бұрын
i am so sorry to anyone who has been doxed or is being threatened to be … it’s truly f***ed up that some people would go out of their way to do this sh*t.
@DaShikuXI6 ай бұрын
Friendly reminder that you cannot trust people with your personal information. Does not matter if it's friends, family, coworkers, etc. There will be people who abuse it.
@xcchinohasmovedtothenewchannel6 ай бұрын
Wow, this is absolutely disgusting, but glad Irina is taking legal action against her doxxers.
@cakechantv6 ай бұрын
why are people like this.... as a vtuber I pray this doesn't happen to me :((
@Mr.Dollar_tree6 ай бұрын
I hope I doesn't happen to you either. 🧊🥄🐀
@cakechantv6 ай бұрын
@@Mr.Dollar_tree me trying to figure out if the ice spoon rat emoji is code for something 💀
@Mr.Dollar_tree6 ай бұрын
😈🧅🥄🐀
@cakechantv6 ай бұрын
@@Mr.Dollar_tree STOPP IM SO CONFUSED
@Mr.Dollar_tree6 ай бұрын
It doesn't mean anything. 🍋🥄🐀
@TheBomshakalaka6 ай бұрын
Unfortunately online security isnt really a concern at schools (i am from Portugal btw). Ive had to do phone number changes due to breaches of security in schools that get widely ignored.
@valtor36106 ай бұрын
@@TheBomshakalaka same here in Sweden, your private info are pretty much open to public on any site and for small fee you can get extra info like serilal numbers on sites that store them.
@nakohitofateburn_vt6 ай бұрын
Thanks for covering this Irina is very sweet person, and she didnt deserve any of this
@BLAZESKILLSZ5 ай бұрын
What a terrible way of ruining someone's mental health. The lies, the manipulation, and then the tears when they're caught their own stupidity. The only good thing is that they should be put in Prison and then never do this crap again.
@ma.20896 ай бұрын
The mockery and victim blaming is pathetic. So glad they’re in trouble
@thegamersoftilbilly6 ай бұрын
Still watching this video, but I truly feel terrible for her. I know what it's like to live in fear, I lied for a long time, and eventually it all came up, after I felt better to have dumped and left those people, yet I still worry if they reveal some information I slipped. I'm glad this has a somewhat happy ending. (Finish the video, they horrible disgusting people. W Irina!"
@Duda-du6 ай бұрын
Some people are just sick, like what do they gain from this?
@ItzKoifish5 ай бұрын
Simple, they want to gain fear from others, they want to make others powerless and scared of them. They want to traumatize and destroy others, literally they just want to hurt others for their own egos, benefits, and power.
@mevi-smolsummoner6 ай бұрын
This is all Chronically online energy. They need to touch grass. I really hope she,takes Legal action on them
@someonewithpoortaste6 ай бұрын
Making someone think they got doxxed is awful. Can you imagine the amount of stress?
@neptusky42806 ай бұрын
What I think it's that peoples think it's right to do that because "I'm not gonna hurt you" but having only 1 person to know your real name and your adress, can lead to so much worst, and maybe get into hands of peoples who actually wanna hurt you. It is a big deal. And the way this person is doing EVERYTHING to find their real identity is just giving BIG red flag.
@CantroDK5 ай бұрын
Finally something worth suing, instead of companies like Nintendo abusing it. Sending positive vibes and good luck to Irina
@Wocha6 ай бұрын
As someone that is portuguese, we do not claim these people. This is disgusting, extremely damaging and disrespectful behavior. The social security numbers are pretty easy to get in Portugal all things considered. Schools do need your ID which has the social security number and you need your ID for tests. There is an amount of money known as "family allowance" to help with school supplies and meals, which if you qualify for due to conditions your Social Security number will be necessary. (Although it usually goes to the parents but there are some cases it goes to the student especially the older they are)
@NorthInium6 ай бұрын
Thats why you dont trust random people on the Internet.
@lucinfernos6 ай бұрын
about the SSN thing: social security numbers are nowhere near as important or protected in europe as they are in the US, which is probably why they were able to see it on a website for irina's university. you can't really do anything with someone's SSN in europe like stealing their credit card info or stuff like that
@jan_harald6 ай бұрын
well, kinda it's still usually treated as an important identification thing, so if you knew it, you might be able to still pretend to be the person, or their relative, and mess with their stuff, though yeah, at the same time it's not terribly hidden
@Antigonex5 ай бұрын
They sell it though.
@Pedrocas6 ай бұрын
Honestly after reading over Zataro''s messages in Portuguese, it really just feels like he was just completely blind to the severity of his actions and just wanted to find her name because he was curious. (still weird cause they weren't friends) Now, his COMPLETE LACK OF SELF AWARENESS doesn't excuse what they did AT ALL. The fact that because of a "silly little haha funny innocent prank" her information got publicly posted online is just shameful. She lives with her younger sisters man... Poor girl :(
@leftdanchou4436 ай бұрын
Ive been in Dragon's discord server and everyone there is pretty much like that, no self awareness and just doing very messed up things for fun. They have literal nazis in there. For fucks sake they held a poll for their favourite loli character, they called it the "Cunny wars". They are very very weird
@mewry66693 ай бұрын
My friend, common sense is a flower that doesn't blooms on every garden. And it definitely doesn't on that mf's yard. He needs not only to touch grass, he also needs therapy.
@Pedrocas3 ай бұрын
@@mewry6669 took the words out of my mouth
@KawaiiKissable6 ай бұрын
Not her eating them up with the "No likes or replies to anything" I'm so glad that she did this, take back that power and get the money!
@dorkenspache83536 ай бұрын
You know, there are SOME things that have an expiration date on when you can be mad about them, but DOXXING ISN'T ONE OF THOSE THINGS!!!!
@throwadice6 ай бұрын
Katliente, I just have to say thank you for posting, you break down the info so well !!
@naraku9716 ай бұрын
It's certainly one of her better videos.
@laughingmanime46226 ай бұрын
Do yourselves a favor and listen to that last paragraph to Dragon with the Meet The Grahams instrumental playing on another tab
@Pedrocas6 ай бұрын
Holy shit, I had no idea that happened here in Portugal
@mathias24696 ай бұрын
16:02 literally the “i do not see it” paypal name meme
@handytoolboy6 ай бұрын
Sheesh what a bunch of creeps
@StarlightEdithАй бұрын
6:05 I can’t speak to schools in Portugal, but up until recently in the US your student ID number WAS your social security number. You often need to put your student ID onto things, which makes it easy to find, and when your school ID and ssn are the same that means your ssn would be easy to find too.
@CalinaSnowy3 ай бұрын
Stalker behavior, especially with how they belittled the streamer's fears.
@ImpactronGaming6 ай бұрын
Glad Irina stands up for herself ❤
@Ia_catI5 ай бұрын
This is so scary. It’s even scarier that they don’t/refuse to understand and how they treat her.
@MaelZack6 ай бұрын
Yea you right . She def should sue them for everything theydone
@HarleyAMV6 ай бұрын
About social security numbers being public etc. Not sure how it works in Portugal but here in Sweden we have several websites and registries where you can look up people. Kinda like Yellow Pages but all you need is partial information. A name, an address, a phone number, etc. You'll get their full name, their phone numbers, their address, what car they drive, how much income they have, their taxes, and there are plenty of lookup websites that, for as little as $5, sell personal security numbers and all your address history, schools you've been to, etc. In a lot of places around the world this information is not AS private as it is in America.
@Sugondees6 ай бұрын
Yes it just skips all this doxxing drama, everyone knows where everyone else is.
@micahfoley95726 ай бұрын
"weird" is a generous way to describe these guys. it's a clinical narcissist and a freaking sociopath.
@Barbex2.06 ай бұрын
As a Portuguese, this situation is really sad and disappointing. It's really hard to a Portuguese person grow in the Internet and actually get a public since Portugal its an small country, so this happening its such a shame :/
@Tofu_yummy6 ай бұрын
juroo quando eu vi que eram portugueses eu fiquei bue desapontada
@NuppyZ6 ай бұрын
I appreciate you so much. I was a decently close friend of irina during all of that happening and even i didnt know about this until the doc came out. And honestly its frustrating
@Etoile.Atelier6 ай бұрын
This video is why everyone needs to be careful on the internet. Be safe everyone!
@Aloysius_OHare5 ай бұрын
She was kind of dumb for the store bit but....Thats three CREEPY men who are stalking her.
@Lilith_XolaaniАй бұрын
I had a guy - scrim through hundreds of hours of content to find info about me - impersonate me - post "pictures of me" on multiple platforms, which he thought was mine (so now he involved someone uninvolved and put a target on their back permanently, meaning the second I have an obsessive creep, that person's life is potentially in danger) - pretend to be me, distribute fake keys for a game under my name and scam people pretending to be me - leak "my email address" which he thought was mine - post those pictures he thought were mine on 4 fake accounts on my Discord server - send me intimidating mails on 2 mail addresses because I timed him out after he broke my chat rules.
@Chadw1cKed6 ай бұрын
It's time they taste their own medicine.
@DragonMasters5256 ай бұрын
as the 525nd Dragonmaster im not related to TheDragonMasters
@tasnuk6 ай бұрын
GET EM IRINA
@valtor36106 ай бұрын
In Sweden when it comes to security numbers and etc. its pretty public. any site in sweden have all your personal info in public and you can get pretty cheap. So swedes are pretty much used when it comes do doxing like not a big deal.
@Yomamamamayo5 ай бұрын
Never amounting to anything is too good of a fate for those losers.
@kirayamato16945 ай бұрын
sadly this kind of thing happens alot and i would not be surprised if alot of people have not come out and said anything because they are scared
@VampiressFangoria6 ай бұрын
i am loving all your content you're giving voice to so many vtubers.
@sidbutler6172Ай бұрын
These men are horrible and doxxing should put ppl in jail clearly they are abusers wtf
@EldritchelAngel6 ай бұрын
This really puts to light how messed up some people can be. It's hard to find someone who can take accountability for themselves and realize what they're doing is wrong. Instead, they thought it was fine to know it and not say anything until later. Like, if you know someone has info of someone that doesn't want their info out there or just in general having this kind of stuff, inform the person before it's too late. It can literally protect someone. It sucks we still have people who do this kind of stuff. 😞
@moreoliveoil15795 ай бұрын
Take everything, give them nothing.
@rainbowbutterflyfan6 ай бұрын
16:19 “as I’ve done to many vtubers you f word” where in the screenshots is that text???
@Doomedrpgthecozygamer995 ай бұрын
Damn this is crazy 😱
@GabrielMeadows-jz4gm6 ай бұрын
God, danm, i feel so bad for her. i hope she gets well soon from all of this
@pantamews6 ай бұрын
Irina is HELLA STRONG! For that move if i was her id lock myself up in my house and never touch the internet again, and never get out of my house! She's brave for what she's doing against her doxxers
@gabrielasilva35616 ай бұрын
To be fair, here in Brasil our equivalent to a SSN is basically public information, we use it more than our IDs sometimes, idk how portugal works, but maybe isn't that big of a deal
@Tofu_yummy6 ай бұрын
MAN IMM FROM PORTUGAL AND IM GENUINELY MAD THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE FROM HERE THAT DO THIS
@nahvi52564 ай бұрын
honestly everything that happened to her, she did not deserve. i don't like Irina due to the fact she allows nsfw art of her loli vtuber, but still, no one deserves to be put through that
@Sugondees6 ай бұрын
You can't let people knowing your info stop you from living, more than likely nothing will come out of it, get a pewpew for the other scenario.
@Floreszxc5 күн бұрын
Why do people act like this leaking peoples information without their consent?
@DMapollogies6 ай бұрын
14:54 the audio acts up a bit here Sorry if i shouldn't comment but i think it's best to comment this
@dee62156 ай бұрын
in regards to ssn being on school website, while its weird to me too, different countries have different laws and view ssn differently. ik that in US its a really big deal bcs of the identity theft. In my country SSN is not kept that hidden, we have it on our IDs and basically you write it everywhere, on every application and even when you pay with cash onto bank account. So maybe portugal had different laws for ssn idk
@janiahhersey2635 ай бұрын
One thing you should never do. It's not a joke around because all they got to do was look it up. No text to speech Which means don't say nothing and Don't do nothing 12:26
@XANDERcanDRAW28 күн бұрын
What what?! Irina.... So this is her reason. I worked for an artwork for her birthday back before all this happened. That's why she goes dark back then.
@Dinoslay6 ай бұрын
“Why don’t you mind your own f’n business.” Yeah no, if they were truly respectful they’d have drawn that line already. That’s not what these types of folks usually do. You just got to deal with them accordingly and fairly(as in, not nicely).
@zeevaii6 ай бұрын
I see those 50k subs creeping up 👀
@solonsaturngaming37275 ай бұрын
Ripple of the RIP.
@IBetrayus5 ай бұрын
I'm portuguese and makes me sad that people that speak my language does this kind of things.
@CosmicChew5 ай бұрын
Just FYI, These two individuals actually committed a cyber crime. Especially the one that worked at the tech store. Should be reported to the company and sued. That person will lose their job instantly and possibly be looking at time in prison.
@Kaiaden_5 ай бұрын
This kinda reminds me of the Kenji doxxing incident, cuz there’s the guy who’s two faced and the one who tries to downplay it
@farak17446 ай бұрын
6:35 September 30th ??? it's only July
@NicoNicoNessieSub6 ай бұрын
Typo, they probably meant 2023
@s1os2s35 ай бұрын
The logic behind giving his address is a trust pact between the two individuals. "If I ever do harm to you of any kind, you know where to pick me up. You can fuck up my life, too" is what Zartaro is saying, basically.
@itzrachei6 ай бұрын
damn hope she okay
@rainbowbutterflyfan6 ай бұрын
I also came from your comment on katliente’s channel! Have you considered dual streaming to KZbin as well?
@PumkinSnatch6 ай бұрын
I’d say he’s reacting that way is because he’s scared of legal actions.
@Doomedrpgthecozygamer995 ай бұрын
This is so wrong so very very wrong in so many ways 😱
@Keetsoona6 ай бұрын
40 seconds ago with no views and no likes?! I’m first? Sweet! I’m gonna love this video, I’m sure, love your content Kat!
@Evelcultleader6 ай бұрын
Finally a good no view comment and not a "40 seconds no views you fell off" comment.
@DrKirkDemenz6 ай бұрын
Dude, cringe AF. Go out. Touch grass. Kat producing good content doesn't excuse your pathetic simping.
@DropDread6 ай бұрын
Did anybody get a weird ahh ad on this video or was it just me 💀😕
@iosketches6 ай бұрын
6:21 im european, not from portugal tho but im pretty sure Social Security Numbers here do not work as american ones, it's not as secret (still sketchy to find them online but its not like "omg dont ever reveal that to anyone)
@leslynieto72205 ай бұрын
I'm with you let them get sueddddd
@avee_0076 ай бұрын
what was the motive behind this i wonder why they did it what do they even gain from that
@Devilhand215 ай бұрын
I feel bad because two people decided to doxx someone and ruin their career. I don't get why people act like pos and think that it's okay.
@critterstewart6 ай бұрын
I think the person who obtained the info - the guy working at the store, should not be kept private, especially considering that they've allegedly done this to other people. The EU takes GDPR incredibly seriously, and this is grounds for a lawsuit and a humungous fine for the store itself. At the very least, I'd put the store on blast, for not protecting customer data, and allowing it to get leaked like that.
@janiahhersey2635 ай бұрын
And by the way, sharing information to a streamer or chatter. And then lying and making stories about it. Is immediate violation of the twitch contract? Should be terminated from your job immediately 18:00
@darkcardking5 ай бұрын
These sound like people that only can have fun doxing people, and because she warned people, she took away their fun. So, time to threaten. These aren't trolls, these are criminals.
@platinumlily6 ай бұрын
I remember seeing this like wat the heck...
@s0ki1175 ай бұрын
So i don't know if people bought this up but what they did is illegal in the EU, also there pc shop buddies and them beached GDPR.
@Lumihri6 ай бұрын
This is why we choose the fucking bear…
@6knotty6thotty66 ай бұрын
The moment he said he did a shout out in 4Chan was an instant red flag to me. Mentally healthy well adjusted people don’t use 4Chan regularly. Shouting a VTuber out on 4Chan is the dumbest idea I’ve ever heard. 4Chan hates VTubers. They either think they’re cringe, or the simpers get pissed when their waifus don’t notice them. All the hate/bot raids that VTubers get come from 4Chan because they hate VTubers. I’m also sensing a lot of male entitlement from him from how nonchalant he was towards Irina’s fears. Which, again, given that he’s a regular 4Channer makes sense.
@Mwah_meahc6 ай бұрын
She didn't even mention anything about what they d o to her so 12:18 what where they thinking?…do they not think other people exis t
@Canbutcant5 ай бұрын
I'd like to say more but this platform won't allow anyone to really speak, I hope she gets the right support.
@bahamut28075 ай бұрын
Gura was doxxed? Since when?
@lanthelancer6 ай бұрын
Isn’t this the Vtuber that made a smash or pass list with loliz?
@__BlacklotuS__5 ай бұрын
stalker much? creepy.. hanging out on 4chan is a red flag right there lol