[Vinesauce] Joel - Crusty Old Emulators: Nesticle V0.21 ( 1997 )

Thanks shitman!
Date streamed: 19 Nov , 2018
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[@CIubDuck]

Joel is like the teacher who leaves the cursor in the middle of the KZbin clip

[@penisgoblin100]

Lol

[@wohdinhel]

except he is fully doing it on purpose

[@luiseduardodejesus3173]

deIlluminati I

[@SlyHikari03]

I have had those teachers.

[@obama8401]

me too

[@flcl64]

When I was a kid I had NESticle. I loved it, but could never figure out why the icon was a wad of gum with hairs in it.

[@RussellTeapot]

it took me quite some time to figure out what the icon really was, and realizing that "NESticle" was a sort of a play on word with "Testicle"

[@urielc918]

Lnao

[@LovelyAlanna]

Stop lying, nesticle didn't have an icon, it was an ms-dos executable

[@agoogleuser6037]

@@LovelyAlanna it was also an application on a different computer, like Windows 95/8.

[@RussellTeapot]

@@LovelyAlanna Stop being a douche, I clearly remember downloading it and using it in Win98 and by the time, it did have an icon. In fact, you can even see the icon in the thumbnail of the video

[@murdercubes4968]

I remember the playsation had an emulator just called PNES

[@genesischris1297]

HMMMMMMMMM.....

[@Mario583a]

What could it mean?? ~ Joel.

[@Holeecrab]

heyyy i remembered using it as well. Every games runs at 80% speed and the sound was rusty as shit.

[@jonnyOysters]

Of only more emulators nowadays had dick puns

[@grumpycomputers7488]

@@jonnyOysters sorry but •IF

[@crylune]

Thank you Shitman, very cool.

[@luquitagl]

The power of fluffy boys shines within you.

[@crylune]

Indeed it does

[@SweetSoundP0N3]

Ralsei + great comment = best KZbinr :3

[@luquitagl]

@@joshuasanchez9257 Pretty happy game, right?

[@skeletalman9711]

@@joshuasanchez9257 Like your mom

[@vinesauceobscurities]

When the emulator is so crusty that it can't even run 7 Grand Dad.

[@ghostunix731]

Nestical is based in c+ using visual basic. Jnes is a C-SHARP using virtual basic.

[@sadriposting]

Thanks for the spoilers

[@BlazertronGames]

@@ghostunix731 what?

[@anueutsuho7425]

Wait where

[@fungo6631]

@@ghostunix731The GUI is C++. The emulator itself is asm.

[@aurelia65536]

Joel, skipping the shortcut in world 1-1: You guys wanna see a speedrun attempt? Alright, lets go.

[@JoLiKMC]

So, some trivia about this emulator and it's creators. This emulator was made by one Icer "Sardu" Addis of Bloodlust Software. Sardu created this, _Callus,_ (the CPS-1 emulator), and _Genecyst_ (the Sega Genesis emulator) on his own. His programs and their features, such as on-the-fly tile/color editing and movie playback, really helped shape the emulation scene. It's really sad that he discontinued his projects because of the source code hacking incident with Donald "Mindrape" Moore. He truly was a pioneer of emulation and a damn good coder. I really enjoyed the Bloodlust Software games he and Ethan "Hellbent" (not _that_ one) Petty - whose name you may recognize from _Watch_Dogs_ - made, back on the 90s. I wonder what he's up to, these days. I never got the chance to meet him… or, give him my thanks. *Side-note:* v0.31 of _NESticle_ is where things start getting more accurate, for the curious. In fact, several games that were tried here - _Battletoads, __-The Flintstones: The Rescue of Dino and Hoppy-__ 7 Grand Dad, Jeopardy!_ - work fairly well in that version.

[@axelord1942]

I love anecdotes like these, thanks for sharing!

[@randomlolz4320]

Whats his deal with naming emulators by genitalia,anyways?

[@LunarLambda]

@@randomlolz4320early internet humor?

[@JoLiKMC]

Basically, what random lolz said. Sadru and Ethan were post-High School students, at this time, and had previously worked on games with more blood, mutilation, and midgets, than _any Mortal Kombat_ game, almost-always played for laughs. Sometimes, though, these jokes went somewhere. For example, Shitman - the self-proclaimed "the lord of the log" - was going to be a major antagonist in a Bloodlust Software run-and-gun game called "DisGRUNTled." I forget what his exact role was, but it had something to do with backing up the city's sewer system. The protagonists - two over-medicated old farts who broke out of their retirement home with Uzis - would have to gun him down. In the proof-of-concept demo, there's even a giant mound or volcano made of crap and filled with urine, though it doesn't do anything. On a related note… if anyone's curious about Buddy, his (unofficial?) story can be found in the demo version of _TimeSlaughter._ He used to be a perfectly normal guy… but, after playing the _TimeSlaughter_ demo, he sold his Chess set and registered the game, after which his IQ "increased" by "100 fractions," and made him "very special," according to his mom. That kind of humor wouldn't fly, these days, but back in the 90s, it was god damn _hilarious!_

[@nintendo1889x]

Oh so that's the dickweed that stole the source code

[@BloodWraith777]

Reminds me of when Vinny did "Classic SNES Games (Just Like You Remembered Them)", in where he played SNES games on an absolutely ANCIENT ZSNES, and the sound and music sounded amazing. And by amazing, I mean all over the place, but mostly hilarious.

[@SmaMan]

Link?

[@BloodWraith777]

@@SmaMan watch?v=YunD4ZC0VL8

[@SmaMan]

ItZed Having now watched a bit of the stream myself, yeah, the sound is pretty horrendous, though the video doesn’t really do justice to how crappy it really was back then on our puny little processors we had back then. It would’ve run at about 1/10 of the speed, on the average computer of the time it was released.

[@mayhair]

@ItZed Bsnes is pretty good!

[@fungo6631]

@@SmaMan By 1997 Pentium PCs were common.

[@jediyoshi64]

They had this at my daycare when I was a kid. I got in trouble for finding Shitman.

[@marksmithwas12]

8:36 Nesticle. A really old, broken emulator from 1997 that somehow emulates Super Mario Bros. 3 _without_ the column of mis-coloured tiles usually seen on the far right of the screen on not only other emulators, but Official Nintendo Software

[@MarioManTV]

Missing those tiles is technically inaccurate emulation, since the garbage is present on real hardware, but gets cropped off by older TVs. Emulating TV overscan would fix that right up.

[@marksmithwas12]

@ENCRYPTED - are you talking to me or Vargskelethor?

[@marksmithwas12]

@ENCRYPTED Oh awesome! What an unlikely place to find a fan 🙂

[@KSR3]

*I SEE NOW*

[@fungo6631]

It doesn't. Look carefully and you'll see just that. Nevertheless the miscolored tiles appear on real hardware.

[@duplexdsi]

Whoever made that “Stream Time” animated background deserves the best things. It’s the best thing ever, I can’t stop smiling at it.

[@brendan9734]

*BANG SLAM BANG BANG BOOM BANG BASH BANG BAM BAM BANG BOOM BASH BAM BANG*

[@brendan9734]

Wait I have to edit sound into this OH MY GOD

[@farribastarfyre]

Looks like it was done by Zeurel.

[@Geedis287]

It kinda looks like a John K. animation

[@xavagriffith438]

@@farribastarfyre it was zeul he even made a animation

[@phoenixwright1465]

Timestamp time! Someone would tell me if I have a mistake in my testimony right? 6:00 Super Mario Bros. 2 8:27 Super Mario Bros. 3 15:35 Dr. Mario 17:26 "Zelda" (Unplayable) 17:35 Super Mario Bros. 20:52 Karnov 21:30 Jeopardy (Unplayable) 21:44 Jeopardy 2 (Unplayable) 21:46 Jeopardy 3 (Unplayable) 21:48 "Jackie" 23:10 Knife Boy (Major spooks there) 23:16 Megaman 5 23:27 Megaman 1 24:40 BattleToads (Unplayable) 24:58 DuckTales 1 26:20 NOT scary Knife Boy 27:36 Kirby 30:30 Metroid 36:50 Super Mario Bros. (Slow, then fast) 41:07 Contra (Fast?) 43:13 RobertCop 3 (Crashes) 44:40 "Bingo" (Loud. Turn down volume) 45:20 Castlevania 48:30 The Legend Of Zelda (Drunk sounding) 52:27 Robertcop 1 54:57 Top Gun 59:43 Megaman 1 (Mixed up with Megaman 2) 59:47 Megaman 2 1:02:50 "Mike Tyson 1" and "Mike Tyson 2" (Don't work) 1:03:03 EarthBound 1:06:10 Metal Gear 1:10:00 DuckTales 2 1:10:40 7GRANDDAD (Crashed sadly)

[@arbi9506]

you're a god not because of the timestamps but because you're referencing best games ever

[@retr0wl]

Knife boy

[@leusmurphy]

Phoenix Wright Mario 3

[@phoenixwright1465]

@@leusmurphy Where was that?

[@tylersturgill311]

@@phoenixwright1465 8:27

[@GamayObera]

1:10:49 7 *GRAND Crash*

[@tones3dferret]

Thanks shitman!

[@smolbrendan5978]

7 GRAND DEAD

[@legorobot2369]

7 Crash Grandicoot

[@XenRiddle]

Sheeetman?!? Aaawwww, Grand Crash!

[@MrEnte3000]

Just go up to random persons in public and say "Grand Dad crashes Nesticle." and see how they react.

[@angelus2809]

careful jobel, if Nintendo sees you using an emulator they're gonna sue you for twenty billion schmeckles

[@OptimisticSociopath]

OY VEY!

[@adamszuszkiewicz1709]

👃🏻

[@cactussmitho9875]

That's a lot of schmeckles

[@DarkFireSF]

The nose knows

[@71dembonesTV]

Only 20 billion?! I don't see how 30 billion is enough for such a transgression. If you seriously think they don't owe every last one of those 40 billion shekels; you don't understand intellectual property. I say they should pay all 50 billion and be glad that's all they have to do.

[@AltimeterAlligator]

Fecal-lord is a hero. Thanks Shitman!

[@JeffDahmerGaming]

This was corruptions in the Alpha Stages

[@JPiXeL]

it’s like if nintendo hired atgames to make the nes classic edition

[@KSR3]

@games

[@masonasaro2118]

@@KSR3 twatgames

[@polocatfan]

To be fair this was one guy not being paid to make it in the 90s. The fact it ran games this good at all is impressive.

[@captainjurgh8142]

Maaaan, this game... I mean Emulator is made by Bloodlust Software, the makers of Timeslaughers! Thier works are so absurd, but beyond hilarious. I really would like to see their return. Because i haven't heard them for a while. So yeah. Thank you, Shitman!

[@JoLiKMC]

Did you know that Ethan "Hellbent" Petty works for Ubisoft, now? He was the lead writer for _Watch_Dogs._ He also has his own games going under the "Gnarled Scar Manipulations" company name. He finally got that "O'Sirus the Snip" game released, though only episode 1 is out, right now. No word in _TimeSlaughter 2,_ though.

[@captainjurgh8142]

@@JoLiKMC Holy shit... I stand corrected! Glad he's still active, but i wish there's another Timeslaughters game 4 real.

[@qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqw]

"Why does this video game emulator have a severed hand? This disturbs me." - Joel, 3 years old.

[@CharlesShow]

Every time mario jumps in Mario 1 he sounds like pingu’s noot

[@ArcFlameVS]

"were pretty spoiled these days". Yeah being able to emulate Wii u and PS3 on a computer does tend to do so.

[@mayhair]

now you can emulate many games of Nintendo's latest console (Switch) pretty well.

[@genericfirstnamegenericlas6490]

Watching Joel's streams on KZbin makes it seem like he's going crazy and talking to himself.

[@Ryusuta]

Oh my god... I remember Nesticle. It was my first emulator of any kind ever. SUCH a nostalgia hit.

[@es5845]

He missed the room at 12:19 which instead of just lowering the roof, it visually moved the entire floor too with the scoreboard getting corrupted.

[@Chowder908]

Play Grand Dad it'll be funny! hehehe. _it does work on v31 nesticle_

[@TheNoEyedGirl]

Epic double upload

[@Postaldude__]

TRIPLE

[@SweetSoundP0N3]

QUADRUPLE

[@TheNoEyedGirl]

Holy shit

[@agitatedskeleton]

Epic Flintstones

[@luquitagl]

Watching Joel struggle with the first enemy of Cut Man's stage for, like, 10 seconds before finally getting through was legitimately painful.

[@chasenplayz]

You mean the deadly cutsman?

[@luquitagl]

@@chasenplayz More like the deadly Blader

[@LightZorel]

"Playable" NES Emulator.

[@user-if1em8zx7i]

Nesticle was the best emulator simply because of the name.

[@squiddles1678]

Золотой Конь it was the worst because of the name

[@ngmajora6986]

Isn't this the same guy behind that MANSLAVE game Vinny played

[@Soldado94aliasUnit594]

Fucking yes! NotLikeThis

[@swelldritch2774]

@@Soldado94aliasUnit594 link to the video?

[@Soldado94aliasUnit594]

​@@swelldritch2774 Easy, search "Vinesauce DOS games 3"

[@Rafa-ri4wd]

Yeah. Same company behind MANSLAVE and Time Slaughter.

[@lordbasilisk]

They made a bunch of absolutely amazing and disgusting games back in the day. Timeslaughter, Noggin Knockers, they even had this really old sidescrolling beat em up I can't ever seem remember the name of. There's a few channels on youtube that showcase some of Bloodlust's games and I recommend checking them out lol.

[@Kingdok10]

I guess the only way to make an emulator back in the day was to be blessed by Papa Nurgle.

[@shyguy85]

pallette editor means you can be waluigi

[@LucasIsHereYT]

I kinda like the sound of the music in a minimalistic and charming way, like this is all they could do and it was impressive for the time.

[@joat_official2020]

Does jumping in Super Mario Bros sounds like Pingu saying "Noot Noot" or is it just me?

[@user-ur5eg3bl1q]

39:49 Deja_Vu.mp3

[@MrSkerpentine]

That opening gif is fucking amazing. Props to whoever made it.

[@heartboy0]

Omg i love that streamtime clip at the start! I love all the emulators.

[@1618dude]

Oh lord. I actually remember this emulator a bit. I think I was still 5-6 years old when I used for the first time? This really takes me back... I was just a baby mate and too naive to understand the joke and the severed hand.

[@kchrules775]

This brings me BACK

[@YTDeepshock]

Castlevania 3 gets EXTRA spicy with vintage emulators, and it intensifies as you get close to the end.

[@mileshill7196]

I must’ve had a later version of NESticle, because I never had any audio issues like that.

[@L30NBL4NK]

Buddy was in the former versions of NESticle, Fecal Lord came in more recent versions

[@YourIdeologyIsDelusional]

20:23 It's not the Amstrad or the Amiga. The Amstrad was around as sophisticated as the NES (it actually uses the same CPU that's in the Sega Master System, and for that matter Nintendo Gameboy), and the Amiga is a legendary 16 bit (and later 32 bit) computer that is frankly competitive with stuff like the SNES and Sega Genesis (technologically anyway). The Amiga even has a built in 4 channel chip that can play sample based music, not as good as the one in the SNES, but keep in mind this thing came out in the 80s. There's even a pretty good port of Quake 3 for later Amigas, but it needs some heavy upgrading. You're probably thinking of the ZX Spectrum or something thereabout. Late 70s and early 80s 8-bit computers were the ones with notoriously crusty graphics, even the Apple II qualifies here.

[@Rafa-ri4wd]

Bloodlust Software is a gift that keeps on giving

[@renakunisaki]

I remember playing this on my 486DX in Windows 3.1. There was also No$gmb which worked great, but you had to exit to DOS for color games to run full speed. ZSNES worked too... at about 0.2 FPS.

[@whiteaier27]

Man, I remember this emulator. Thanks for the nostalgia Joel.

[@TubbyJ420]

ah memories of grade school, this and 'no$gameboy' were my first emus. BOW TO THE FECAL LORD !

[@thecoolcatsproductions8034]

i wish time slaughter 2 was finished now since i heard about its going to feature this guy

[@RaposaCadela]

This is so interesting! I'd love to see this trying to run the more complex games released for the NES. Thanks, Shitman!

[@NathanDarkson984]

Well there are some roms that couldn't work on NESticle

[@RaposaCadela]

I know, but Kirby was one to work! I definitely will have to try some games there, but I kind of doubt any of them will run. Days of Thunder, Elite, Color Dream games, Batman: Return of the Joke... and some other stuff!

[@HerrdesWindes]

I remember playing an early version of PJ64 back in the days on my 433MHZ Celeron PC, barely had any framerate in SM64 but I loved it.

[@Mech4]

Part of the crust of old emulation would have been from early rom copies as well, yes? I vaguely remember some roms weren't ripped properly or something.

[@Dd-gi5lm]

I want to see him play Crazybus in Genecryst. ;)

[@kimgkomg]

There were many emulators before Nesticle that were much more accurate. The problem with them was that they were extremely slow even on an above average rig. Nesticle was the first emulator that could be ran on anything, and it achieved that via loose approximations of almost everything.

[@kurokoro]

Wow nesticle lol rad,I remember back in the day and it was actually pretty good,good memories.

[@gormless-idiot]

What's interesting to me after watching Joel for so long is that he seems to treat applications on his computer like physical items he owns, with stuff like keeping two copies of Nestopia on his computer even though one doesn't work right, or in the case of this VOD collecting old emulators. I've never seen this phenomenon in anybody else, just Joel.

[@WolfNova1]

love the music in this emulator so nostalgic

[@Zicconnuts]

20:27 ZX Spectrum.

[@betaman7988]

So Joel knows of the Amstrad... that’s impressive

[@Octopuswithcorn]

I sure hope he tries Genecyst someday.

[@FoxNovean]

The fact that putting the video to 2x speed, when he starts slowing it down and talking slower... that it is almost normal is amazing.

[@frankrtwiw]

THAT NES LOOKS LIKE A TESTICLE

[@nintendo1889x]

Hence the name

[@brendan9734]

No it doesn’t, you just have a dirty mind.

[@fnln3011]

Wonder of there's a nesticle emulator emulator. Like a modern emu that has an option for emulating how nesticle output sound for nostalgic purposes.

[@mattcrowell5875]

You can also see some slight screen tearing, just in case nobody noticed for some weird reason.

[@03bgood]

Wow, emulation has come a long way since the late 90s! I think all NES/Famicom games work perfect, by now.

[@dadjokeness]

Duck Tales WOAH OH Making jobel crash his bus Ducktales WOAH OH Crashing the Nesticle oh DUCKTALES

[@fen7662]

Dog, don't even worry about it, Zsnes is still good. Yeah, it has an old interface, but it was running smoothly since a long time ago... I don't have trouble with it, so why update?

[@MediaMunkee]

8:51 Ah yes, layering inaccuracies. I think I still have a fairly crusty old version of _rew,_ a GBC emulator that did that all the time. Wonder if Joel would ever try that.

[@dunk.]

it has an aesthetic of its own, i love it

[@zorochii]

Joel pls use the oldest zsnes, the one with no mouse gui. That was my first zsnes. uwu

[@zorochii]

No but in all seriousness, Genecyst next please! The one with the bloody menus.

[@SlyHikari03]

I wish early internet humor came back. I also miss Messaging boards and IM programs (MSN, AIM, etc). Lots of cool shit most of us barely miss.

[@Lucas-ht4cp]

I love the stream start GIF

[@thatoneguitarguy887]

The year i was born. Masterpiece

[@belicto7743]

Do old PJ64.

[@diegomedina9637]

White Tunic Link Hype!

[@brendan9734]

Wasn’t it fairly accurate but just crashed a lot?

[@belicto7743]

@@brendan9734 My earliest experience with PJ64 was with 1.4, a lot of games looked like ass, but for some reason ran better and crashed less than with 1.6, Majora's Mask, for example, would crash when turning into a goron in all versions except 1.4, but the game lacked lighting and shading, it looked like one of those trash slenderman clones.

[@_vh]

does anyone remember the one video that talked about this from like 2012 ? thats how i remember finding out about this, same with game genie lol

[@Valientlink]

the show "icons" on g4 used the sept 1997 build of nesticle for a lot of their footage for some reason, despite many better emulators around by 2003 also I didn't really get lag with this emu back in the day, at least with the later builds. this first one was probably terrible running on dos

[@plaguis1391]

Very fascinating info if true

[@Jacktrack7]

I like grinding in JRPGs yet I still didn't quite like Earthbound Beginnings, don't get me wrong there was a lot of charm to it but after 6 or 7 hours in, something wasn't clicking for me so I bailed out, honestly playing it felt a bit like a chore, I guess you need a very specific mindset and a lot of patience to play 8-bit RPGs in general, they're VERY limited, totally understandable but difficult to go back to.

[@JI0MB]

I felt the same way. I genuinely WANT to love the game, but I just can't. Thank god someone's remaking it in Earthbound's engine.

[@DicFlair]

They basically admit they didn't have time to rebalence it after it was finished.

[@mrb1975]

i wish this was a series

[@MamaAki]

Joel is a badde boi at videogames.

[@bokunogentoo4420]

I never thought I'd hear someone mention Rockbox ever again, but here we are

[@spartonberry]

The Metroid password destroying NES consoles isn't true. Mine survived me trying it with both of my copies, the normal silver and the rare yellow cartridge. Yep, I risked bricking an uncommon cartridge (because I don't think there's anything to actually break on the game). :D On a real console it just freezes on a blank screen. The GBA version (unlocked on Zero Mission) is smart enough to detect that something has gone wrong and resets the game.

[@Googlesucksballs]

lol back in the day this was our NES classic.

[@starred1096]

I approve of that "stream time" gif.

[@Sledgex3]

On the bright side, Paperboy theme there had a closer pitch, which resembled the Arcade version.

[@fratercontenduntocculta8161]

Nesticle was my first emulator, and just like other people are saying, i remember playing it and it really making my computer run slow

[@thefunnyman9548]

watching that one part in double speed is cool

[@AstroTibs]

God damn this emulator takes me back.

[@dibberz-v1z]

please let this be a reoccurring series

[@CM-di1oz]

23:12 The man behind the slaghuter

[@NunofYerbizness]

2:30 If the "Lord" in fecal-lord was where Joel got the Scythelord name from, I wonder if he also took the "Fecal" for fecalfunny?

[@mrhashbrown8283]

"You want it? At the end" *Skips to the end*

[@StarkMaximum]

...OH NESTICLE LIKE TESTICLE i get it now. boy that was a 20+ year buildup to a punchline.

[@gabubarks]

Play 37:29 at 2x for full experience.

[@UnTizio100K]

10:55 I UNDERSTOOD THAT REFERENCE JOEL I LOVE YOU

[@user-ug1cu6sw8g]

Wtf is that reference?

[@pastaroni8683]

Please put in a download for the gif in the beginning

[@MisanthropicOcellus]

Didnt he stream something about nesticle a few years ago or am i time travelling in my sleep

[@zerir.3726]

Being born in 2003 i unfortunately wasn't able to experience the absolute majesty that was this, but felt enough of a part of history with my dad telling me I had to be careful playing Mario Kart 64 because it made his computer overheat. He also talked about early Dolphin, and i remember thinking "no way, your computer can't run that"

[@TheJinxCast]

I have a decent computer but it runs gamecube games incredibly slow

[@fungo6631]

Nesticle didn't lag easily on contemporary hardware. It ran full speed on a 486DX2 66.

[@nintendo1889x]

Still better than the Wii U's NES emulator

[@AstralPhnx]

40:10 Fast boi Goomba vibrating at incredibly high speeds

[@blobbem]

I tried playing the original Legend of Zelda without a guide. I got lost rather quickly.

[@StormDatIsApproaching]

blobbem WHAAAT?!? But that Nerdtendo game, classic masterpiece, has no flaws, you must get gud. That game sure ain't as cryptic and confusing as Bill n Ted and only gets praise for bs sake, no no no, no way Zelda 1 is broken ☺

[@nfsmaster3837]

cool music remix

[@Perc1000]

Is there a modern emulator that can edit sprites and palletes on the fly? Please let me know.