[Vinesauce] Vinny - Forgotten Mac Games Demo Pack #1

[@vinesaucefullsauce]

You can get a replay of the chat on KZbin with the ChatReplay Extension on your browser: Chrome Extension (Compatible with Edge) ► chatreplay.stream/chrome Firefox Add-on ► chatreplay.stream/firefox Use this link if you don't want the extension, are on mobile, or want theater mode ► chatreplay.stream/watch?v=rahXNLhz-ns

[@potterinhe11]

Yeah

[@CabezasDePescado]

Yeah

[@CabezasDePescado]

Man i had the demo for Power Pete it was an awesome game! And Bloodbath was ptetty cool but hard too! Oh the memories

[@CabezasDePescado]

Barracks and Pathway Into Darkness!

[@HaveYouTriedGuillotines]

1:09:13 Just from the jump startup frames here I'm going to wager a guess that, no, this game does not handle well. I recognize the number of startup frames and animation on that jump from another well animated but extremely stiff fighting game: This game probably handles like _Shaq Fu._

[@EvilTurkeySlices]

Fun fact, Classic MacOS has no protected memory. So when an application crashed it could crash the whole computer and you’d need to restart.

[@brecken19972]

Supposedly there is a Dev build of OS9.1 that has Protected memory but Steve Jobs had them remove it for the Release Build of 9.1 so as to push more people to OSX.

[@Oh-Ben]

@@brecken19972 (It worked)

[@painovoimaton]

Wow! What terrible design.

[@EvilTurkeySlices]

@@painovoimaton it wasn’t terrible when it first released with the original Macintosh, but it was something never added.

[@murdercubes4968]

It used to happen to me, like a window whit a bomb on it telling you to shutdown

[@macuser7048]

Thank you, Vinny. As a longtime fan, I've waited YEARS for this day.

[@l-l]

Username checks out

[@luheartswarm4573]

where is a unix user in these trying times?

[@l-l]

@@luheartswarm4573 Vinny must play Super Tux Kart

[@IndieLambda]

Right at the start, "Some of the start was really, yeah, yeah, yeah, huh?" Felt like the start of a bit, but nope, Vinny sound pack, starting stellar.

[@Skonris]

For a minute there I thought something was just repeating a recorded word from the intro at random.

[@stickitydoodah]

I thought he just had really bad echo

[@hereniho]

37:00 that's unironically the best music possible for a man in his own house trying to figure out how to walk while his own ghost keeps walking around and punching him at random.

[@NeonBeeCat]

sounds like a rejected mr oizo song

[@lymb3914]

11:20 "THE SCOOT KEY!?" is now my favorite Vinny quote ever, and that is REALLY saying something!

[@chaffXgrenade]

Vinny having a "FLEENTSTONES!?!?" moment

[@warbossgegguz679]

SCOOT KEY PLZ!

[@macuser7048]

There's so many weird Mac demos especially from Mac Addict CDs. You're in for a treat.

[@maw9406]

hope it becomes a series then

[@macuser7048]

@@maw9406 The ISOs are on Internet Archives. ALL OF THEM.

[@almaelma11]

@@macuser7048 can you drop some links? I love weird obscure stuff like that

[@macuser7048]

@@almaelma11 There's also the MacRepository

[@murdercubes4968]

Hopefully theres an episode 2, i want him to show stuff like Ferazels wand and Damage Inc.

[@audiobotguy0357]

I really dig that weird and ditzy aesthetic a lot of 90s era Mac OS stuff had, it's such a vibe.

[@SchalaArchives2023ish]

1:45:07 as someone who had this as a kid, I was waiting for Vinny to see that ridiculous developer logo sequence

[@theweevilofthenorthcoast]

squirrel kombat is so powerful it broke thru into 2023 media, im savoring it

[@JacobKinsley]

The music is just ridiculous I love it

[@SchalaArchives2023ish]

@@JacobKinsley Yeah, it's so ridiculous, I have a video on my youtube called Most insane dev logo and that's Monkeyfarm lol

[@PlebeianGoth]

Oh good god, Vinny, I'm heartbroken that I missed this when it was live! This is exactly how my childhood looked! Squirrel Kombat was one of my favorite games, and I had a demo of Monkey Shines but my parents would never let me get a key for the full game lol. Thank you! This is such a wonderful nostalgia trip

[@HellfireComms]

Early PC/MAC gaming is both my blindspot (being born in '88) and also strangely very nostalgic for me. I never had a PC good enough for actual gaming until recently, but all these old titles and demo's have such a great vibe to them.

[@Janfon1]

Replicating that late 90s 3d artstyle has become an artstyle of its own, using genuine copies of old rendering software and making art in it. It's wonderful nostalgia food

[@macuser7048]

Also thanks for playing Street Rumble. I haven't seen that game since 1997. I remembered what it looked like but forgot the name. THANK YOU.

[@makenshao9886]

I love segments like this. There are so many games that get lost in the shuffle because they were for the earlier versions of windows, or even earlier, competing computers that are just forgotten because of the obscurity of their hardware.

[@FrostyFin]

I like how the Giza game plays the Al Kharid theme from RuneScape.

[@vinesaucefullsauce]

Originally it doesn't. I had to edit out the original song because of a copyright claim and put that one as a replacement.

[@Ragahnsiir]

That's a great replacement song choice

[@CIubDuck]

@@vinesaucefullsauce I was gonna say! I was like "no way Jagex stole this song from some crappy ass Mac game"

[@chloejessica7961]

that explains why no one seemed to call it out in the video lol

[@scrung]

holy shit, i felt like i was going insane waiting for vinny to say ”why is everyone in chat saying runescape” 🫨

[@gmanftw217]

Squirrel Kombat and Alien Attack were some of me and my little brother's favorite games to play on our grandparents' mac whenever we went to visit. I distinctly remember the Squirrel Kombat yelling intro interrupting dinner once.

[@pressurechief]

I did a double take at 58:18 because echoes has been so ingrained in my head that I instantly recognized it

[@KitsuneDzelda]

Holy shit, Vinyn found Yipe III! I had a hazy recollection of that game until the bunny died screaming and it all came rushing back. That game was the bomb back in the day.

[@yungpm]

They always get you with that.

[@KaiZX]

Fr they do

[@lasarousi]

Thanks Jhonny, I was about to be alone with my thoughts, better to lose sanity with edutainment and Vinny.

[@PrismTheKid]

We're all fighting the good fight against our inner monologue keep it up soldier

[@DStecks]

HIRE AN ESCORT Also, it's not Factory Porno, it's Factory Pomo, that 90's edutainment aesthetic.

[@ZappasBappas]

In the 90's there was a dutch comedian that called up an escort service asking for help with his broken Ford Escort. It was pretty gold.

[@_.-.]

Chat, I need the source of the bizarre 18:00 animation, I'm mesmerized by it

[@DaveBob96]

Seconding this

[@brazilian_oak]

Chat asketh, chat giveth m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/mmjMkoOZq5ysgsU

[@DaveBob96]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/mmjMkoOZq5ysgsU After 24 hours I have found it

[@robertshoop8181]

Yes! Well this entire machine he’s running here I want a copy of it lol

[@blongo2112]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/mmjMkoOZq5ysgsU Found it!

[@psoffxifan4904]

1:18:57 never heard anyone refer to the final fantasy tactics soundtrack as hollywood core music

[@Grangolus]

That was put in the video to avoid copyright issues.

[@Stuffgamer1]

@@Grangolus Ohh...I thought it was weird nobody commented on it being from that game. What the hell was the original music that it would be a greater copyright risk than a Final Fantasy piece even Shazam knows?

[@gopro25]

1:45:21 This is a cover of the song Walla Walla by The Offspring!

[@Auroralights321]

"Oughh! PlayDMC2! Yeah. They always get you with that."

[@masonasaro2118]

All of these games would be horror games if they came out now

[@rr0binx]

There's something about listening to Vinny play these old and retro games and just listening to his commentary on it and what he experienced with games back in the day. It's funny yet relaxing listening to his voice

[@Balblair]

Holy shit Vinny talked about Meteor. I got it from a freeware DOS CD back in the day, it had great music and level/weapon/NPC creator. Both Meteor and it's sequel are still available on the dev's website today

[@johnsmith-vn9cs]

I find it hilarious how ANYONE DARES claim copyright on a game that's almost thirty years old that you literally can't buy or play anymore... Hell, they don't even have a website active anymore!

[@Valientlink]

Yipe III, that brings me back. I have a feeling I'm going to recognize a good amount of these. I grew up playing Genesis, SNES, but mostly shareware from Mac Addict discs. JARED! Oh man, this brings back so many memories of playing these on my OS 7.5.5 and 8.6. Some of the shareware games were actually really good, some adaptations of arcade games done very well.

[@RaposaCadela]

"they always get you with that"

[@carnespecter]

pleasse god i need to know what that funky little video at 18:00 is

[@SinfulCreature]

I swear I've seen this crazy little critter before, too. I came to the comments in search just as you have. May a more knowledgeable beacon of internet history enlighten us both.

[@brazilian_oak]

All 56 seconds of glory: m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/mmjMkoOZq5ysgsU

[@SinfulCreature]

@@brazilian_oak you goddamn legend, thank you.

[@MrUoyknaht]

It gave me whiplash hearing the Agora music as the Final Fantasy Tactics music, I was sitting there like "Why is nobody in chat commenting on this, what is going ON", only to check the description and have it all revealed to me

[@MapleLunii]

I had chat replay on and I'm REALLY surprised nobody noticed that the game at 5:00 literally had the Al Kharid music from Runescape lol

[@DStecks]

Because it didn't at the time. Read the video description.

[@macuser7048]

The wing saves you from fall damage in Monkey Shines. The shield protects you form damage. You have to collect all the keys.

[@bloodrunsclear]

Wow...this is unlocking weird parts of my brain. I used to play so many demos and random shareware things back in the day.

[@thepersonwhocomentz]

to the one guy who saw the trippy 3DCG vaporwave animation and went "batz490" in the chat I want you to know I love you

[@SteelDrake2]

i wish you could change the beep when your computer boots to vinny saying BOOT

[@DStecks]

okay, wait, wait one minute 1:07:49 did The Untouchable seriously make _19 characters_ with that level of capture quality? Because that is fucking insane.

[@sharewareeater]

I'd love to see more of this specifically, OS 9 had so much wacky shareware n stuff prime for these kinda streams

[@themonotonist]

I grew up with a Macintosh Performa 450 in the 90s, and most of my first desktop video games were weird demos like this! I'm especially fond of Gridz and am sad I never got to play the full version. Vinny missed all the wacky new york accents the various bots have. The 'quack' sound vinny plays on stream sometimes was actually a default alert sound on this version of MacOS. I was hoping he would find it, but he would have to go into the system settings I spent most of my Mac gaming years playing Marathon 1 and 2, so it was cool seeing Pathways Into Darkness which was its predecessor. A lot of people don't realize that Bungie started as a Mac-exclusive developer, and that Halo was originally going to be a Mac game before Microsoft got involved. It's still very nostalgic for me seeing old prototype screenshots of the game found in magazines at the time. I still want to play THAT version, because I lost interest in the game after it was delayed over and over only to release on Xbox

[@Doughboy123x]

Always happy to see old Macintosh games get some love. 14:03 Also happy to know I wasn't the only one who loved doing this.

[@MorbiusTheMenace]

Seeing Future Cop LAPD had me in a nostalgic mode

[@murdercubes4968]

I had a macintosh as a kid so this is preemie nice too watch I could actually recommend a few really good things. I was surprised they included Squirrel Kombat and even more that youtube says the game is Future Cop LAPD

[@silkdust8069]

Did future cop release on mac at all?

[@movingtarget12321]

Can’t believe Vinny finally got to play monkey shines. That fucking level 1 music is stellar and I’ve been humming it on and off for 20 years. It really does suck shit in every other way though lol.

[@danem2215]

"Rick Hardslab" sounds like one of Bobson Dugnutt's teammates

[@HyperDefective]

01:17:27 aGORA Soul of the Oracle - Straight up uses music from Final Fantasy Tactics. I didn't see anyone in the chat point it out. I recognized it as soon as it started, although this sounds like a slightly different arrangement. Edit: I'm dumb and can't read good

[@CIubDuck]

They had to remove some music as it was DMCA. So they edited in music from other games to fill in the blank, you can see what songs they are in the description.

[@HyperDefective]

@@CIubDuck Oh thanks. Now I feel like a dumbass lol

[@CIubDuck]

@@HyperDefective No worries, I had the exact same reaction as you when Runescape music started playing haha

[@vasheal]

That music in monkey shines was pretty freakin cool. Actually kinda impressive, although can't say the same for the gameplay.. lol

[@itsmonketimeFFXIV]

Isn't this a Runescape track???

[@TheDragon6666]

@@itsmonketimeFFXIV Nope, that was the original Monkey Shines music

[@itsmonketimeFFXIV]

@@TheDragon6666 Just came back to this and I must've been smoking crack or something. Runescape wouldn't use drums like that. Thanks for clarifying!

[@Jindo1]

I'm so glad Harry the Handsome Executive made it on this pack, that game is a banger 🔥 EDIT: Shame the soundtrack isn't playing 😭 the main menu theme leans even harder in to the Indiana Jones influence

[@DStecks]

At least we got "I'M GONNA SHIT DOWN MY THROAT"

[@psyjax2]

Man, this brings back memories of all the weird demo CD's you'd get as a 90's mac user. I remember playing a lot of these! Escape Velocity is actually pretty good once you get past the janky interface. The sequel (Escape Velocity: Nova) is even better, having some really nice pre-rendered 3D graphics for the time.

[@macuser7048]

Super nostalgic for the Monkey Shines level SPOOKED

[@Gerald0613]

the music had me spooked the rest sucked Donkey Kong balls

[@colindragan9352]

Classic MacOS games always felt like a weird alternate dimension. They all have a surreal feeling that's hard to explain

[@relientlykrazie6011]

Ooooh, some of the After Dark games! We had the ADG disc and I particularly loved the lawn mower one. I don't think I understood the dog one because I was baby at the time but now I do, I love games like that. and Roof Rats is classic. Man... I want to play all those again, huge nostalgia blast

[@baranpourtahmaseb-sasi1421]

You can tell which side of the console wars everyone was on in the 90s when nobody is able to recognize the Final Fantasy Tactics soundtrack in aGora.

[@mrhs5220]

Damn these bring back memories. I still have my CD of the full version of Gridz!

[@zelenpixel]

VERY entertained by the constrant [duck noise] and BOOT and PLAY DMC2

[@SwizzleDrizzl]

im going to hear duck noises and "plae dee em cee too" in my sleep

[@warbossgegguz679]

Fun Fact about ZPC, the artwork and concept were designed by Aidan Hughes, who you may know as the dude who does all of KMFDM's album artwork (which is obviously influenced by European propaganda artwork). I've always wanted some other human being to talk about this game. Honestly a really good doom/marathon clone, but VERY surreal and weird. I enjoy.

[@this_connor_guy]

Music was also done by Paul Barker (Ministry) and his brother Roland (Ministry briefly). It's actually a fun game if you give it a chance.

[@PWRFORCE_]

Okay, I was wondering why that artstyle felt familiar.

[@kuratajutsu]

Omg I thought that was Woolie from the thumbnail

[@zerotakis]

He warned us about thinking that about every black man in dreadlocks. And yet, that's all I saw too.

[@RoyStorey]

fun fact: Monkey Shines was developed by Nikita Mikros, who went on to be the designer of the arcade game Killer Queen

[@art-cs6us]

Bite the dust?

[@crazy_buffalo_balrog_02]

bite za dusto

[@pokehybridtrainer]

I remember a bunch of these from The Macintosh Bible, a disc of shareware stuff. Too many times I saw Maelstrom load up while in a lesson. Ended up loading it to a bunch of Macs in PS99 that had Ultimate Doom for every computer with after school. It was great, that teacher was awesome.

[@zobblewobble1770]

Ah man Maelstrom brings back memories. I still remember the “You idiot!” sound clip that played when you shot the friendly ship. Looks like the first game Vinny played used the same asteroid assets.

[@gamzoo3317]

Vinyot playing pathways into darkness is the closest we'll get to him playing marathon

[@GusJenkinsElite]

I hope Vinny looks into the story of Pathways into Darkness, it's very much *not* just a dungeon crawler

[@yourbrainonegg159]

"The waves were the battles and the battles were waves"

[@arran4285]

And it somehow linked to Marathon and somehow everything else they made

[@vinesauceobscurities]

What's the name of the animation at 17:58?

[@sheldonray5308]

here it is kzbin.info/www/bejne/mmjMkoOZq5ysgsU

[@brazilian_oak]

I found it here on KZbin, the person links to a tumblr post that might be the origin, but I don't know if it's really from the early 2000s m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/mmjMkoOZq5ysgsU

[@vinesauceobscurities]

@@brazilian_oak Thanks. I remember this being on YT years ago but it was hard to find since. Guess the original video was deleted and has only recently been reuploaded.

[@lemonblazer123]

Escape Velocity was my childhood. And Harry the Handsome Executive was pretty fun, too.

[@jaydengonzalez9336]

Escape Velocity's title sounds like a DS Castlevaina boss theme and I love it

[@EnigmaticRPG]

wtffff After Dark Games might be some of the first PC games I ever played! I was so young I didn't remember it being a MAC, but sure enough, my grandparents' first computer had the retro apple logo. I can't remember anything else about it, besides the soft floppies and printer paper with the strips you had to tear off, lol. The earliest computer I actually remember using regularly was like a Win98 and every one since has also been Windows. (all my homies right click; penguins are for nerds)

[@MazeeKasurame]

This quest of yipe game reminds me of a turnbased strategy game I found on a random (100 logic games for PC-CD) between 2000 and 2005. I can't find it whatever I search for as the CD broke at some point.

[@Shmandalf]

One old mac game that still holds up really well is MTG: Shandalar. Some dedicated fans have even been updating it with newer cards and everything, though it does still use an older ruleset.

[@ZappasBappas]

That Harry game was the shit back then... i used to play it so much..

[@Deliveredmean42]

Huh, so I guess this is original idea of this concept! Good to know Last Man Sitting game wasn't the one that came up with this idea lol

[@l-l]

This was a blast to watch

[@zwooop64]

1:45:10 most sane mac dev

[@robertshoop8181]

^^ THIS ^^

[@wildestgoose7288]

what the hell is that pink man video? that music hits so hard

[@nickblomgren]

Aw- You didn't get to the part of Harry the Handsome Executive where the enemies throw AOL discs. Why do I remember this?

[@ZappasBappas]

17:35 Power Pete?

[@macuser7048]

Yeah good game. It was renamed to Mighty Mike. The game is now free to play. No joke.

[@ZappasBappas]

@@macuser7048 The level with the RC track was always my favorite, haha. I'm pretty sure i still have a bunch of those Mac Addict CD's somewhere...

[@dopeeast-f7x]

52:42 Thank you, I was searching for this game for a while now. Nostaglia :)

[@treehann]

This is so trippy to see. I grew up on mac games and recognize a handful of these, bringing back crazy memories: Escape Velocity - I watched my dad play this but always thought it was confusing as hell. Alien Attack - it's actually a great pvp game if you have another player. Barrack - legitimately great arcade game with awesome sounds. Shame you didn't have Apeiron on this list too. Squish - great puzzle game, though it would have been a slow one to watch on stream. Had a great level editor! Pathways Into Darkness - stylistically cool but plays like shit compared to Marathon. I need to find more of these videos. The nostalgia is too good.

[@Lin_The_Cat_]

I wish Vinny referenced the, "order com," meme from Mother 3, when that game had an order form. That's immediately what popped into my head when I saw that.

[@LightsAnon]

I believe the song played during Squirrel Kombat is Walla Walla by The Offspring?

[@Chrestomancee]

I played a lot of these have as a kid! I wish I could try this collection for myself

[@909After]

Holy shit, Escape Velocity. I played that at my friends house in the 90s and made it a popular game in my high school.

[@LeudieBlues]

Man, seeing Escape Velocity made me miss Escape Velocity Nova. The games are jank but I've always liked space sim games, shame the site's pretty much shut down and the game itself can't be bought, though can still be obtained through other means.

[@msicouldntthinkofafunnynam4770]

Does anyone know what the picture of the monster with the castle on its back is from???

[@WarpxD]

Oh no, it's locked!

[@ScarletDestiney]

After dark games segment unlocked a precious memory

[@petesandwich3246]

I totally forgot about Power Pete until I saw it here. Also one good game every forgets is “Prime Target”

[@Shadow_of_Blake]

I want a stream where Vinny is talking to his clone and they both have conversations with each other.

[@mikkabouzu]

I had GIZA as a kid! I even streamed it live about 10 years ago

[@CabezasDePescado]

I had a Mac as a kid and it had some really awesome and other huh interesting ones, he needs to make more videos about this

[@Shmandalf]

There was one game I used to play on the school computers, I can't remember if it was mac or not but it was like a circus game and consisted of a few different minigames. There was a juggling one and a rope swinging one? Idk what it was called but this made me remember it lol.

[@favoritemustard3542]

ZPC - artwork by BRUTE! the same guy who does all the KMFDM album cover art!

[@alexanderprestrelski2563]

5:30 Al-Kharid MIDI from RuneScape ripped ??

[@fnoigy]

HE STARTED WITH ESCAPE VELOCITY I'M SO HAPPY

[@bobosmith101]

5:30 I thought I was crazy, but after listening for a few seconds... This is just straight up the RuneScape song Al Kharid! EDIT: Oh, the description says the song was replaced, oops. Still!

[@teero121]

54:18 pretty sure it would've been more respectful to not mention your deceased friend in this fever dream of a game lmao

[@DStecks]

That whole bit is more Cruelty Squad than Cruelty Squad

[@rubeusvombatus]

The Vinemac Supercool returns

[@Xe4ro]

I grew up playing games on Mac and AtariPC in the 90s. :3

[@zbunk]

i wish vinny played these a bit more, some of these seem actually fun

[@Saxdude26]

*hits Cancel* "They always getcha with that" That's a subtle joke, but I love it.

[@Bass080888]

1:18:20 sounds super similar to before battle preparation unit music from Final Fantasy Tactics

[@Valientlink]

Oh btw, Jareds didn't work because you have to go to file and play. it's customizable and can be up to 8