Ving Tsun Kung Fu Association Europe Greece Some memories from the past Philipp bayer heraklion ! !

Philipp bayer 2013 heraklion ! ! !

[@teresatkaczuk1837]

Amazing!

[@seldermer]

simply the best, nothing else

[@Pimpc662]

Why does the bong sau appear to cross over center line? In some of the chi sao clips the bong is directly over top of the Tan Sau... Does WSL teach the position this way, and if so, what is the thought process? Thanks. Great stuff

[@bjoernengelsberg3157]

We use the bong to open a way through the guard of the Opponent ✌

[@ramonalarcon1974]

@@bjoernengelsberg3157 In a real fight punches and kicks are used and these go straight to the face, and vulnerable areas, you don't play to interlock your hands in such a childish way like that. They look like two girls playing.

[@bjoernengelsberg3157]

@@ramonalarcon1974 the fact, that you don't understand chi sao, and that sparring and chi sao are two totaly different things doesn't mean, that chi sao is useless. Philipp Bayer's VT Lineage is known for doing sparring in training. Come over to test it. Not just talking 😉

[@ramonalarcon1974]

@@bjoernengelsberg3157 In the real world, where can that nonsense they call chi sao be useful?

[@guillermusicona69]

Clearly no understanding of the principles being practiced. Hope you meet a good wsl practitioner one day. You will understand what the thing is that they are training. This isnt sparring. Its education for your nervous system.

[@ramonalarcon1974]

In a real fight punches and kicks are used and these go straight to the face, and vulnerable areas, you don't play to interlock your hands in such a childish way like that. They look like two girls playing.

[@georgeparker8462]

I’ll say what the others are too polite to say. Those two “girls” you speak of would likely hand you your a$$…