Vinland Saga was Disappointing

[@DrewMalou]

Thanks for watching everyone, and Happy Easter! If you want to check out my merch, you can find it here: drewmalou.com/collections/all-merch

[@allencunningham9002]

Imagine watching only the first season and complaining the MC didnt have their full arc.

[@wumbojet]

Imagine watching the *PROLOGUE* and complain about that

[@DrewMalou]

LOL. I am definitely not doing that. I simply wish that Thorfinn's monomania was tested in a more rigorous way, so that we get to see his choices and what he's willing to sacrifice in order to get revenge. I know this isn't his whole character arc, haha.

[@DrewMalou]

Critiques are not synonymous with complaints, lol.

[@wumbojet]

@@DrewMalou I mean, that's the point of the whole manga so it's very confusing as a up to date reader to hear something like that. Farmland arc explores the reasons and motivations for Thorfinn to change, Baltic Sea arc tests Thorfinn's resolve and the current arc is testing the plausibility of Thorfinn's dream.

[@minamicole2943]

Of course since I’m watching this video in the first place I’m a big Vinland Saga fan and love Thorfinn’s character development, but I found your points interesting. As far as testing his kindness, there are some scenes in the manga (that haven’t come out yet or got cut from the anime) that shows he still has empathy but doesn’t choose to help people that he could. And Leif mentions to Thorfinn when they first reunite that Helga’s sickness has gotten worse, but Thorfinn ignores it and continues to ask about Vinland. But after hearing your points I think the plot would have really benefited to making these choices more integral to his character and the plot! Like the part you mentioned about if he would share the food with the girl. As for Canute, I liked the character development and I think it worked since the mangaka wants to show the power of kindness, like Canute was able to develop just off of being a kind person. But I definitely see your point, and can see why many people didn’t like it. Great video! ❤❤

[@DrewMalou]

Thanks for sharing this!! I figured there were things that got left in the manga, so it definitely makes me want to go through that to compare. And that is an interesting take on Canute, which I didn't know the mangaka had said, so I'll need to go back and see if I feel the same way. And I'm excited to see how things shape up in season 2 as well! Thanks for watching, and for filling me in!

[@minamicole2943]

@@DrewMalou Of course! And still, as someone who likes to write with characters of my own, I find videos like these very useful!

[@asdf.-234]

dude can you watch season 2 before making a video calling the whole anime bad, season 2 is out as well so I don't understand why you didn't even watch it before making this. The story is literally a masterclass in character development so all your issue would have been fixed if you just watched season 2

[@usmaanilyas8639]

Have you ever seen KZbin reviews before? Some people go over the whole series but some people go over a show season by season since the video would be too long otherwise. Just look at JoJo reviews. Let this guy review the show at the pace he wants

[@asdf.-234]

@@usmaanilyas8639 people go season by season when the seasons are coming out. Also JoJo is JoJo each part feels like a new show.

[@usmaanilyas8639]

@@asdf.-234 yeah I guess. But you could also argue that any new season of a show feels very different in their own way. But yeah JoJo is an extreme example

[@randompolygon8401]

@@usmaanilyas8639 I mean, It would be more fine if the 2 character he complains about, were literally not the 2 characters that get their most major character arcs in s2. Like both his issues are ones that would be lessened or fixed if he had seen s2, and I think that's what makes the review a little pointless imo

[@junba1810]

Season 2 does justice to Thorfinn, as he is a really amazing character to watch develop. However the complaints about Canute don't have to do with Season 2 at all. Canute did in fact change from 1 moment to another and a 2nd Season won't change that.

[@ivy4360]

I'd like to see a another video on this topic once you watched season 2 to see if your opinion changed!

[@DrewMalou]

Definitely! You and a lot of others have recommended doing just that, so I'm curious to see if my opinion changes as well. Thanks for watching!

[@vonnstevens2502]

“ViNlAnD sAgA wAs DiSaPoInTiNg.” Yea u lost me on speaking about the “underwhelming” character developments of thorfinn and Canute when season 2 exists. The title should’ve been Vinland saga season 1 was disappointing

[@DrewMalou]

I'll make another video once I get through season 2, but I don't foresee it changing my mind about season 1. Thanks for watching, though!

[@randompolygon8401]

1:12 seconds in, and I already wish you had seen season 2 before making this. Cause If you had seen it, you would know, that season one was kind of the kick starter for both thorfinn, and canute's developments, and it would make complete sense why they had to be on the simple side before then.

[@DrewMalou]

Haha, I will try and watch season 2 soon so I can make another video sharing my thoughts! You could be correct, but I'm not entirely sure I agree yet.

[@mugenbop]

I would be very interested to see what your thoughts are after watching Season 2

[@DrewMalou]

Yes! I recently finished season 2 and thought it was great, but it didn't change my mind about anything I said in season 1. Video coming soon!

[@mugenbop]

@@DrewMalouI do think you have to make the distinction between what you feel is Thorfinn’s progression and his development as a character as they are two different things. Thorfinn does make choices in season 1 which is based on his development and his progression to be heartless is his arc it’s just at the start of the season. But I can see where your coming from

[@_para.dox_]

After watching season 2, you know why finale of first season is called “End of the prologue" "PROLOGUE"

[@DrewMalou]

Yes.... That doesn't change my thoughts on it, though.

[@_para.dox_]

@@DrewMalou Just watch season 2 before commenting anything rash about it. It's better to have no knowledge than to have half of it. Person with less knowledge shout a lot. First know the full thing about it. You Dumbo!!

[@DrewMalou]

1. No 2. None of my comments are rash. 3. You can examine individual and specific parts of a piece of work, you don't always have to examine the whole thing. 4. Don't be afraid if my criticisms fracture your rose-tinted perceptions of Vinland Saga. Embrace the truth of my words. 5. Just because I criticize something doesn't mean I didn't enjoy it. I made this abundantly clear at the beginning of the video. 6. Dumbo??!?!! No u.

[@SentoB]

I like your presentation abilities and appreciate the character chart especially. In mono dialoguing as I watched I felt that it was a lack of thematic feeling that was missed in this video. Thematic feeling, which is more importantly feeling but also the theme! The part about Canute was (ironically) very static, it didn't match breadth of how these characters were presented to us. So in terms of theme, when we finally get to the point of being introduced to the royalty, we as an audience were meant to feel that importance, be it with expectation or detractive assumption. When we meet Canute he is nothing like those of the world of Vinland Saga which turns out to be a contrast to Thorfinn but through Thors. Thors is introduced and presented as having attained a warrior's wisdom with a subtlety that always says more than he does; this video's perspective to connect that we as an audience only just start to share our reception of Thors with Thorfinn. What Thorfinn perceives of his father and why he gathers himself to this monomaniac form of self is only just ROUNDED to that he killed his father but why is it that we don't find the depth of Thors within his son? Noting about the likely audience is that as men, the feelings we're allowed to have are only few that being Happy Angry and rarely Upset (not sad). This isn't a talk about masculinity but a step in understanding HOW the audience begins to receive the content from this show. This is the exact same contrast with Canute, except while the show plays it out as a similar comparison to his father, the King, the Thors/Thorfinn contrast here is actually Canute/Canute. Canute wasn't just a child with a heavy impression, he already had a large part of understanding and the world. He's definitely more dynamic as you had on the chart, but farther apart to Thorfinn simply by experience. It's these exact measures of theme and feeling that make Vinland Saga so valuable to not just immerse in but sink into, like having a a literal presence within a simpler literature. One last note about Canute and his "transformation layer" (firstly I'd wager that most people felt the same way about his baby face stopping a drugged fighting maniac, as I did) is that even this layer of dynamic had smaller ripples within. Unlike Thorfinn, Canute was already experienced and could therefore interact with his knowledge after his character change. Similar again to the false King/Prince side story, the story uses this moment to represent the difference of not ability but character through a character... almost like a 4th wall break (mostly from how obnoxious this interaction is): Canute considers that his intended face and demeaner aren't of a build that the warrior would fight and so two personally contrasted demeaners met here. It's a small and short scene but it's the first display of Canute's intention that he later expands upon in that scene's dialogue. He's similar to characters like Kurapika imo. I think it's also valuable to consider that if this show did not start with and kill Thors, Askellad would not have been as appealing.

[@DrewMalou]

I hadn't considered all of that when I watched Vinland Saga the first time, and found your ideas quite intriguing. Thank you for sharing, and I'm curious to see if these ideas still hold true for season 2!

[@SentoB]

@@DrewMalou I'm glad my rambling said something, somehow! :D Season 2 takes a more in-depth character development including these two. I implore you to give it a watch, and interestingly I find that the way we looked at both character's development continues to contrast and even flip.

[@DrewMalou]

Yes, I just finished season 2. Very interesting, indeed. Video coming on this subject (hopefully) soon!

[@stipesoda4910]

Insane take tbh

[@DrewMalou]

Please elaborate...

[@BeatrixTomomizu]

I really had to convince my self to watch it to the end... Well, you are correct in all. It IS a bit stumbling and Knut is the character who's really annoying all the way. The thing is: Season 1 is simply the prolog. The good shit and character development starts for thorfinn after he lost his reason to live: Askeladd And yes, askeladd best boy. On the other hand I may have not read through that part if my boyfriend wasn't so absolutely excited about it and consistently told Thorfinn... I forgot the wording... It was something along "BAM handsome!" And I was like: "da heck is going on?!" It IS kinda draining and you really have to push through a lot of story parts you don't see necessary or interesting and by god, even though I freaking love the story arc of season 2 which is still kinda the beginning of the story. It's kinda the first few pages to show you where he went and how and why and so on, but it IS draining. The mangaka does take his absolute sweet time to tell the story. My boyfriend loves it and I myself like it a lot. But I can also understand everyone who drops it and can't relate to it a lot. The most interesting characters are actually the side characters, though you NEED Thorfinn in the middle. Cause in the end it is his story. And I'm still not over what happened to Knut. I think those two characters are kinda designed to be the exact opposite to each other. Thorfinn going around with vikongs killing english men while Knut believes in God and condems them, though he is from the royal family and can't do anything against that. Thorfinn lost his father and just blindly went into rage and seeks vengeance, while Knut looses his father figure and kinda get out of his comfort zone and sees what he has to do to get what he wants. It IS strange and sometimes it feels just not right, but the characters seem for me at least understandable. Even our loved waifu Thorkel has his own reasons and acts according to those. Everyone has their reasons and goals and act toward them. And even if you might gonna watch season 2 and get the itch to just hit Thorfinn real hard (... I kinda wanted to), it's still the journey he HAD ro make to find his answers. It is his journey and how he proceeds. And it actually reminds me kinda of most "normal" peoples stories. Normal life is draining and it takes a lot for someone to snap, but often also just need a moment to just turn into an emotional wreck (and absolute hate is for me also an emotion) And I loved the dynamic between Thorfinn and Askeladd. The "master and student" relationship they had while also being the villain and the revenger. Askeladd tought Thorfinn SO MUCH and Thorfinn did hate Askeladd, but also knew he learnd a lot. So as I read the story I was actually quite nervous if Thorfinn would actually be able to kill the person who looked after him for half of his life. And I was devastated when Askeladd died. Though it's needed for the real story to begin. I really recommend watching the next season, though it may get as boring and draining as it was in season 1. Vinland saga has its fanbase for a reason. It's a simple "you either love it or dropped it fast" (and of course there are a few in between like always), so I can't be actually be mad at people who say they didn't like it. But I may not like you that much anymore... But jokes aside, Vinland saga is complicated. It's appeal for me IS kinda that "we drag this out and we don't give you many situations you would like to see. We don't give you many situations where Thorfinn gets to decide on his believe. We gonna let you drown in all the feelings and dread and then hit you with something real hard" and the first hit for me was askeladds dead. And then the end of season 2. It's a long journey and I like it. Many do. But I also see why people don't enjoy it. It's like with everything. Not everything can be your taste~

[@DrewMalou]

Thanks for sharing! I'll definitely have to make an update video when I finish season 2, and let everyone know if my opinions of season 1 change at all. Thanks for watching!

[@randompolygon8401]

Yep, watched the video fully, and you DEFINITELY should have watched season 2 before making it. Like I can't really get into any details about why your ideas wouldn't work as well as you think, without mentioning stuff that happens in season 2, but I will try. Thorfinn's character needed to be completely static, because loosing his purpose (askeladd dying without him getting the chance to take revenge), would need to make him loose his purpose in life. If he still had major conflicts that challenged his fixation on revenge, beyond what the show already offered, that hopeless ness and loss of all purpose would not work nearly as well. and that is necessary for what his character is going for as you will see in season 2. For Canute, I think your complaint is partly because you didn't get what exactly he realized/went through in his head, and partly because it was a rushed. Like, I don't think there is any way you could make a character 180 within a single scene, but vinland did it as well as it could possibly be done, which is still lacking imo, but it's not illogical, it just happened to fast. Canute's development came from his drastic change in beliefs and ideals. He went from being on observant on the sides who prayed for it, to becoming the man who would create heaven on earth as an act of rebellion against god. if you look at all his key scenes, his change in mindset is completely well earned and logical. BUT. While his personality and bravery is reflecting just that, I don't think it was equally as earned. Like the belief change was the ONLY thing that resulted in those, but shifts like this can't happen in one scene without it coming off as illogical as you put it. That said, ignoring that one bit, his character's direction becomes infinitely more clear in season 2, and you will have a far easier time understanding what the author was going for. It won't solve the issue, but it will make it way smaller.

[@DrewMalou]

Thanks for breaking this down without spoilers!! Haha. I definitely see your points, but want to address a few things. I'm not criticizing the fact that Thorfinn is a static/flat character. I'm criticizing the fact that we didn't get very many opportunities to see what Thorfinn was willing to sacrifice in order to get his revenge. The last example I gave, (Leif Erikson telling him his mother and sister were in danger) could have accomplished this to a great effect. Then, when Thorfinn is no longer able to accomplish his revenge, his purposelessness would only be increased. I don't know the specifics of season 2, but I'm guessing that this wouldn't disrupt anything major, yet still make the next part of his arc all the better. You would be a better judge than me on this, however, so I will have to wait until I finish season 2 to be sure. And that does make sense for Canute, and I am excited to see where the story takes him next.... But I still don't think I will like him that much as a character, lol. I'll try my best to keep an open mind, however! Thank you again for sharing your thoughts! I'm excited to make another video once I finish season 2 and can see if I still hold the same opinions.

[@randompolygon8401]

@@DrewMalou It's a bit hard to explain without s2s context. What I will say is s2 probably will change your perspective even if the complaints remain the same. Honestly, if you make a follow video, this one becomes so much better just by the nature of that follow up existing! So I look forward to it for sure!

[@random_degenerate4216]

every time you critiqued thorfinn or cannutes character arcs i tried to rebut it but i couldn't without mentioning the manga and season two, i think alot of the scenes you mentioned serve more of a grander perpose to the over arching narative and the future development of the caracters rather than the contents of the prologue which also left a weird taste in my mouth, since askeladds arc concluded in season 1 it all feals gratifying and complete while aspects of canute and thorfinns arcs are incomplete and confusing untill season 2.

[@DrewMalou]

That makes sense! I'm excited to finish season 2 and do a follow-up video exploring those aspects of the story.

[@HenryStudebaker]

While I haven’t actually seen Vinland Saga, your video makes me want to watch it more, just to see where I fall in the first season characterizations of both Thorfinn and Canute! I am, however, interested to see you put Invincible on the Static-Flat side of characters, as opposed to the Dynamic-Round position that Omni-Man is in. I can’t deny that Omni-Man is perfect for where he is, but Mark does grow a lot… but if your positioning was based on the show and not the comic, I can see that, since most of the development I’m thinking of happens later into the comic than where the show is at now. Anyway, thanks for another fascinating video, Drew, and I’m looking forward to whatever is next!

[@DrewMalou]

Henry! I highly recommend Vinland Saga. Such a fantastic show, and I wish we had more like it. I hope my critiques don't put you off towards watching it. The good of the show definitely outweighs the bad. This video is mostly me contemplating my dislike towards how a few of the characters were developed, and why so many people praised the story, when I thought there were some glaring issues with it. As for Invincible, you are right! This is all based on the animated series so far. I haven't read any of the comics, haha, but I am now quite intrigued about Mark's development! lol And thank you, as always, for watching! I've got a special video planned for next time... 😁

[@HenryStudebaker]

Oh, no, your video actually made me want to watch the show more, since I trust your takes on media, and want to keep your thoughts in mind whenever I check the show out, especially because yours are some of the only critiques I’ve heard in my limited research into Vinland Saga! Yup, that makes perfect sense, and I can see how you’d come to that conclusion from the show, as Mark is a character that evolves slowly, and much of that evolution is yet to come in the adaptation! My pleasure, and good to talk to you! Looking forward to that, then! 😁

[@ScottishGremlin]

Canutes dream of Ragnar wasn’t what awakened him, that was his conversation with priest, about love and death and God. It also wasn’t complete whiplash; with no Ragnar there to baby him, and being forced to talk more through his setting, he became slightly more braver before Ep 18. I think you should watch his stuff again.

[@DrewMalou]

Respectfully, becoming slightly more brave or becoming a complete giga-chad are two very different things. Just because he was on the path of finding himself, doesn't mean his transformation isn't whiplash inducing, lol. And the priest did help him on his way, but I think the initial catalyst is Ragnar's death and dream. That's just my opinion, though. Thanks for sharing yours!

[@giuseppepaolini6754]

man... now i have to recover vinland saga just to watch this video, goddamit...

[@DrewMalou]

Haha, sorry bro!! 😅

[@ultimaweapon6]

Bro . . . I'm going to watch the video in a sec but just based off the title I completely disagree but I look forward to seeing your opinion

[@DrewMalou]

Haha, I knew it was a hot take, so I look forward to hearing your thoughts on my thoughts! lol.

[@ultimaweapon6]

great video man, gotta say everything you said about thorfinn and askelad I completely agree with. Great show but those could have been done better The title is a little click baity but that's all good. Loved the video

[@DrewMalou]

Sorry it took so long to get back to you! And yeah, the title is definitely meant to cause an emotional reaction, but I don't think it's necessarily clickbait. Glad you enjoyed it, and thanks for giving it a shot!

[@ultimaweapon6]

@@DrewMalou hey no problem bro And I agree because it's 100% worked on me definitely caused me to emotionally click on it

[@junba1810]

I will agree with some people on the comments here. I, too, had heard great words about Vinland Saga and thought, "Why not give it a chance?" but Season 1 wasn't really something amazing. It was a good anime, as simple as that. However, Season 2 is the real game changer. Vinland Saga is the first anime I see that I can compare to Better Call Saul (my favorite series ever) and Breaking Bad in terms of writing. It really feels as if the creator had all the ideas in his mind and everything you see in Season 1 is very carefully selected so that the development of the characters in Season 2 feels organic and natural. However, some of your points also stand strong. In contrast to Better Call Saul, which is a very slowly paced series and gives time for the viewer to explore the character in depth, Vinland shows all the development in 2 Seasons. I must agree with you about Canute. The character is just not explored enough to justify the changes. Overall, your video made me consider aspects of the show that I initially ignored because of how hyped I was about the whole thing. I honestly loved Vinland Saga and Thorfinn is probably my favorite MC in an anime. Another Drew Malou banger 🙌🙌

[@DrewMalou]

Haha, thank you!! I am definitely excited to see what changes come in season 2, and will try to do a follow up video after I've finished it. And I'm with you, I did think Vinland Saga was a good show, I just had some minor issues with the characters. But I definitely need to go watch Better Call Saul, because I haven't seen it yet!! Haha. Thanks for watching, and sharing your thoughts!

[@NevOriaw]

Thorfinn-Nothing Changes just "I wanna duel and kill this man for killing my dad!", Canute-"I am just a less capable actual royal not white haired version of Griffith." That is my season 1 view and idk if I can force myself to watch season 2.

[@Ez.bake_evan]

You need to watch both seasons to get the full Vinland experience imo. Both seasons are very different from one another, but are two ends of the same coin and compliment each other extremely well.

[@DrewMalou]

Good to know! I'm definitely interested to make a follow-up video to see if my opinion changes at all. Thanks for watching!

[@veryfunnykyle4818]

nah dude I agree canutes "character development" didnt really feel like a development at all. The same can be said with season 2 imo as thorfinn is mostly braindead and going through withdrawls until he gets some wacky revelation to change his whole view of life instead of having him slowly go through moral dilemnas.

[@DarkThomy]

Tbf I thought thorfinn was the weakest character of season 1 too, almost didnt liked the season overall. The promise at the start is misleading. But oh well, then came season 2 you know. Little masterpiece.

[@DrewMalou]

Yeah, good to know I wasn't alone, lol. And I've heard great things about season 2, so I'm interested in doing a follow up video! Thanks for watching!

[@DarkThomy]

@@DrewMalou however I must say I didnt feel the same for the prince, but not sure why we differ opinions this much.. Maybe at this point there were already enough "almost supernatural beings" in the anime so that his shift didnt strike me as unbelievable.

[@DrewMalou]

Yeah, that would make sense! I just felt that it didn't fit at all in a Nordic setting, which I suppose was the whole point of Canute, lol.

[@ferth2315]

I don’t know if you haven’t watched season two so no spoilers but Thorfinn changes quite drastically. The reason I think the author decided to keep thorfinn as static as possible in this season is to make season two’s change all the more impactful. Me personally tho I was still disappointed with Canute… Also happy Easter😁

[@DrewMalou]

Ahhh, that makes some sense. I definitely need to go through season 2 and make a follow up video! And I'm glad I wasn't the only one disappointed in Canute, LOL. And yes! Happy Easter to you as well! 😊

[@Angras_advocate18]

& now the real reason I came to ur channel, can u please make some type-moon content it’s the strongest franchise in anime with their base abilities giving them immeasurable speed. & my power scaling subs & playlists r all the proof we need, my other subs etc prove it also the the best written characters in anime. Like generic anime channel’s shirou vid, it’s billion$ budget & ufotable even come together to give us peak animation of any year they drop or period. It’s also the lotr of anime with lore on lore & galore.

[@DrewMalou]

Thanks for the request! However, my Patrons get to choose which video I make next, so it's kind of in their hands!

[@_para.dox_]

You're the one who's disappointing 😂😂

[@DrewMalou]

Thanks! LOL

[@Tanialucky-t2w]

bro whenever i see videos about " vinland saga is trash " it just boils me alot cuz they are bunch of kids who just like shonen , action and cool stuff and are unmatured brats and curse alot on vinland saga but it teaches a lot and only matured people would understand but i understand ur reason on thorfinn and canute on their mid character development but u gotta try out s2 cuz thorfinn becomes a better character

[@scythe9734]

Okey, I guess you've not watched Season 2. I'm sorry but how can you do a review of a Show while you only watched 1 Season? This isn't an "Arc", it's LITERALLY an entire story that span 2 seasons and more than 30 manga volumes. This is just weird.'

[@DrewMalou]

Yes, I have not watched season 2 or read the manga as I stated at 0:15. Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but I don't think it's that weird to review a single season of a show. According to your criteria, are people not allowed to make reviews of One Piece because the show isn't finished? That, to me, seems weird. Season 1 of Vinland Saga is a chunk of the story. I know that the characters change in season 2, but I'm not discussing their changes. I am discussing how they were developed throughout season 1. Thorfinn's character development may be fantastic in season 2, but I don't see that changing the fact that I think his development in season 1 was a little lackluster. However, if I do change my mind, I think that would make for an even more interesting video down the line. Also, take for example, Zuko, like I mentioned in the video. If someone were to do a review of his character in season 1, I don't think that that is weird. Of course his character changes in the later seasons, but you can still examine what is revealed about him in the first season, what motivates him and drives him, and why that's interesting. I don't see how you can think that that is weird, but please elaborate if I misunderstood you!

[@scythe9734]

@@DrewMalou Vinland Saga, for lack of a better word, is just different. It doesn't follow the normal Anime/Manga way of telling a story; it's more like a Live Action TV show. The best example I can give is Breaking Bad; Imagine judging Walter White, Hank or Jessy on that 1st season or even 4 seasons without watching Season 5. The characters in Vinland Saga don't suddenly start developing in Season 2; they have already started in Season 1 and everything that comes afterwards requires all these "Weakness" or "Mistakes" of Season 1, because they're one tool the author used to tell his story. It's hard to explain, but the best way I can put it is this: for example in Jujutsu Kaisen (Just an example of an author suddenly decides to develop a character that he didn't do much with before) Gojo and Geto suddenly getting an entire backstory in Season 2 to develop when they're so generic and troupy in season 1. It works well (Not way I prefer, but it's better than the flashback before death shit shows) they developed, but what I'm trying to explain here is that you CAN judge Jujutsu Kaisen's characters in the 1st season without watching Season 2 because thier plot only really started in Season 2. On the other hand you can't simply judge Canute and ESPECIALLY Thorfin character in Season 1 without watching at least season 2 because the author made those "Weakness" on purpose and not by mistake. So it's like interrupting someone mid speech and calling it faulty when you didn't let him finish a speech that doesn't make any sense without hearing it fully.

[@usmaanilyas8639]

@@scythe9734 imagine comparing this show to a live action. I personally prefer animation to live action but Vinland Saga is the most elementary school imitation of a live action structure. The show still follows all the lame and generic anime stereotypes most shows use. It just uses its viking premise to convince you the show is smarter than it actually is. Based on your profile pic you also seem like the type to compare AOT to Game of Thrones. Lmao I couldn’t even imagine

[@scythe9734]

@@usmaanilyas8639 I see, you're one of "Those" people. Okey, whatever you say is correct. Here, I'll even give you a medal so that you can go and brag to your friends about how smart and all-knowing you are 🍭🍭🍭

[@usmaanilyas8639]

@@scythe9734 I never said I was correct. I was just pointing out that you have a very childish way of looking at this situation for thinking that Vinland Saga is a kin to a live action when the characters literally talk like they were written by a 14 year old. Also ironic how you label me as “those people” when you are also the same person who said “I was dropped on my head as a kid” just because I didn’t like the same show you and your friends probably circle jerk over at the lunch table

[@jackkunasaki5044]

Crazy how people can't criticize a 1st season of an anime YoU sHoUlD wAtCh ThE sEcOnD sEaSoN 🤡🤡🤡🤡

[@randompolygon8401]

you can, but it does feel pointless when the complaint he is spending the most time on, would be none existent if he had seen season 2. He can do it, but some of his critics are coming from a lack of knowledge, which makes it.... again.... kinda pointless.

[@usmaanilyas8639]

@@randompolygon8401bro that is just your opinion. How are you gonna say that if he watched season 2 that he would like the show? Are you in his brain? I saw season 2 and thought it was really disappointing. It is very possible that Drew might have the same experience. Just let Drew have his own opinion you are acting like everyone has to agree with you

[@jackkunasaki5044]

@@randompolygon8401 That's kinda a bad take, if the 1st season of the show doesn't catch the viewers interest, how do you expect them to watch the 2nd season?

[@usmaanilyas8639]

@@jackkunasaki5044 lol I know right. That’s not how reviewing a show works. Plenty of people do what Drews doing where they go 1 season at a time. Idk why people have so many problems with it

[@randompolygon8401]

@@jackkunasaki5044 but it did catch his interest, he only had complaints about 2 characters. If you he had overall problems with the show, then yeah you would be correct.

[@SinceFall]

Ignacio

[@DrewMalou]

Ignacio, indeed.

[@Angras_advocate18]

1:50 that’s cause u only have a surface level idea of the concept of the isekai genre itself. Harry Potter is an isekai Alice in wonderland is 1 too captain America’s life is an isekai. No disrespect cause from my perspective u saying that just sounds ignorant asf. Let me elaborate u act as if trashy harem isekai is what defines the genre. Like some Ignorant 1’s I hate that choose to believe the echhi genre is what defines anime. When u know goddam well there r an obscene amount of titles with no fan service like this very vids topic violet evergarden, monster, vivy flourite eyes song, madoka magica I could go on all day! The moral of the day is there r also an obscene amount of isekai that have compelling & nuanced story’s & character writing. or r just a fun ass ride, who would’ve thought. Examples id recommend to read not watch if there novels, anime just doesn’t do them justice with their self imposed tight ass run time. Include grimgar, inuyasha, magic knight rayearth, the Vision of Escaflowne, drifters, rezero,(which has a lot of side story’s that serve for lore etc.) the twelve kingdoms, the boy & the beast, ascendance of a bookworm, welcome to demon school iruma-kun, saga of Tanya the evil, log horizon, konosuba & cautious hero(which r parody’s of trashy harem isekai like sao) reincarnated as a sword, problem children r coming from another world, aren’t they, bofuri, angel beats, tower of god, Naruto shippuden movie 6, mushoku tensei, the faraway paladin, fgo, fate/type redline, Digimon, now & then, here & there, big etc.

[@DrewMalou]

Bold of you to assume how much I do and don't know about the genre.

[@Angras_advocate18]

@@DrewMalou my boldness sprung from yours G😉

[@DrewMalou]

I guess you'll have to wait for my video where I eviscerate the genre, but if this is your knee-jerk reaction to my comment merely criticizing the genre, I doubt you'll agree with any of my conclusions.

[@Sahelianpirate]

i totally agree ! i dropped after 10 volumes. this is so bad and disappointing

[@DrewMalou]

I still enjoyed the story, but it felt like it was way overhyped, lol.

[@Sahelianpirate]

@@DrewMalou it’s just not my cup of tea. The ditzy one dimension mc pissed me off so bad 😭

[@Misterbazzuka]

take rejected, have a great day

[@DrewMalou]

Thanks, you too!

[@ivy4360]

Is that Ye Xiu as your profile lol

[@Misterbazzuka]

@@ivy4360 yep

[@usmaanilyas8639]

Season 2 is even more disappointing than season 1 in my opinion

[@hugogieles4816]

Can you explain why

[@usmaanilyas8639]

@@hugogieles4816 It would take a long time to explain but the shortest explanation I can give is that most of the emotional scenes didn’t hit. The scene that hit the most for me was the dream sequence Thorfinn had with Askellad, but even that scene could have been improved despite it being my favorite. The problem is that a lot of characters emotional states are a bit hard to sympathize with. Einar is depressed over his families death but it is a bit underwhelming since we barely got to know them. Thorfinn is depressed and regrets himself killing so many vikings even though we never got to connect with any of them emotionally. There are a lot of other scenes that are emotionally distant like that and it led me to feel absolutely nothing when the “I have no enemies” scene happened. A lot of the show feels like it is just telling us how to feel instead of showing us. That is just my opinion though. Please respond in a civil way if you do plan on though because Drew said to keep it civil. I have not had a good experience with Vinland fans before. People in that fanbase get butt hurt even if you are being respectful in the critiques

[@ivy4360]

That’s actually fair criticism, I guess looking back there was a few character development that was a little rushed and done without sufficient reason or motive. I found that it was a little odd that Thorfin just gives up on life after failing to kill Askeladd. I intentionally thought he was gonna shift his revenge toward Canute for killing the man that killed his father out of irrationality but he just gives up? I think it would be interesting to see how he became hollow after failing his revenge whether that be through character interaction or something else. @@usmaanilyas8639

[@scythe9734]

I agree, your mother MUST have dropped you on your head way too many times when you're a baby.

[@usmaanilyas8639]

@@scythe9734 tell me you’re 14 without telling me you’re 14