If you truly want to understand Vinnie get Gary Chaffee's Pattern's books. Everything that Vinnie plays on this recording can be traced back to Gary's material. I had the good fortune to study with Gary (mind blowing lessons, just checkout any of the videos of Gary on youtube) in the early 80's while I attended Berklee College of Music. Vinnie, Steve Smith, John Robinson and Casey Scheuerell had the good fortune of studying with Alan Dawson and/or Gary Chaffee when they attended Berklee. Those two instructors along with the entire Berklee drumming department produced/influenced so many incredibly talented musicians!!!
@jaimesorli24363 жыл бұрын
jonathan mover studied with gary too and you can see how much amazing he is...
@drummer3753 жыл бұрын
I've watched a few of Gary Chaffee's things here on KZbin concerning 5 and 7 note groupings and they are just unbelievably useful.
@a142294b3 жыл бұрын
Yeah interesting. Sticking patterns gets talked about a lot but my theory is Chaffee's book Rhythm and Meter is what made Vinnie. The metric modulation, polyrhythm studies and odd time in that book go so deep it's Comical.
@BeTheDrum2 жыл бұрын
I'm pinning @David Nelson's comment because it's spot on. Gary Chaffee's books are essential to understand Vinnie's playing. It's reasonable to speculate that after Vinnie's one-year stint at Berklee College-and moved to LA-he spent many years working on Gary's (and others) materials to develop his own vocabulary. There are numerous examples of Vinnie using Gary's stickings/phrasings in solos. The first step is to patiently study Gary's stuff (any book from the collection) and then incorporate it into your playing. It's transformative. Last thing: Gary himself stated (I can't remember the source) that Vinnie and Steve Smith were the "guinea pigs" for his early books, and he would pass along the exercises to them to see how things worked out. Vinnie and Steve would often do their lessons with Gary together, as a group lesson.
@RICHARDSANDSTROM Жыл бұрын
If you take a listen to Vinnie’s podcast (Breakfast with Vinnie) - he has a brand new episode with Gary Chaffee that goes deeper to their story. Gary said that Vinnie already had an incredible rhythmic knowledge when he began at Berklee. Gary said that he honestly thought that Vinnie could sit down at his lessons, without practicing the material, and play Gary’s pieces. Point being; Vinnie created Vinnie. With a lot of studying on his own and of course with the help of great teachers and musicians. But of course Gary’s material is great. It’s an amazing episode. Highly recommended!
@ernieadams11845 жыл бұрын
No need to hope, Vinnie. You do. Like Tony, no matter how dense and intricate your playing is, it is still musical and filled with emotion. It takes a special cat to achieve that kind of playing. Thank you. -pEAce
@Joesfosterdogs7 жыл бұрын
excellent use of graphics to time with audio...well done sir
@TonchBiik7 жыл бұрын
the shit he does when he demonstrates doubles within a groove is sick
@thevibemusic12706 жыл бұрын
This is a one of kind channel...great concept...Keep it rolling guys..Godspeed
@arleco125 жыл бұрын
"and after a while I can feel it in my foot". And out of nowhere he plays some solid and impossible super groovy shit.
@mikenicora67015 жыл бұрын
Did Vinnie really say I can’t dazzle you? That’s funny.....thanks for this. It’s pure VC gold.
@toddwalkerdrumstudio5 жыл бұрын
No such thing as "Gettin' to much of Vinnie C."!!!....This is a great, great, GREAT Vinnie upload! Thanks
@ickysticky36726 жыл бұрын
This is a great channel. Really insightful little bits of information like this and the others on your channel combined with the text and graphics are impossible to stop watching. Bravo!
@lucaroveran95514 жыл бұрын
Guys please upload something. This is one of the best drum channel ever
@BeTheDrum4 жыл бұрын
working on it @Luca... thanks for your feedback and patience...
@lucaroveran95514 жыл бұрын
@@BeTheDrum awesome 🔥
@KONAMAN1003 жыл бұрын
What a great demo on this topic, so groovesome. Its why he got those gigs like with Sting or Chaka.
@vincenzoamodei27595 жыл бұрын
3:36 best fill ever
@sz-ll9iq5 жыл бұрын
Drummers have dealt with ‘automation’ longer than most....drummers are still here
@davidcurtis44787 жыл бұрын
Great advice from Vinnie! Love ya Vin! DC
@snareaddict5 жыл бұрын
GOAT
@benfrank86496 жыл бұрын
That don’t mean it’s going to groove! Great words
@tryharder2495 жыл бұрын
Um groove de respeito.
@truthfirst18933 жыл бұрын
I wish more drummers in 2021 would remember the importance of the "human feel', rather than glorifying the overuse of chops and grid alignment. Without groove, what good are chops?
@oscara.garcia51362 жыл бұрын
Amen
@jonasandezekiel11092 жыл бұрын
They don't even have chops anymore either. I'm not hearing it from the young cats.
@borgullet33767 жыл бұрын
This is FU#KING GOLD... Thank you !
@paulkennedy49203 жыл бұрын
So basically he's always had that beautiful rim click tone.
@jones27205 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@billyg.7032 Жыл бұрын
Play tight like a machine but make it feel better than a machine🤯 . The secret just right there
@gonzalodominguez2295 жыл бұрын
yes you do music!! Thanks
@lvvry18555 жыл бұрын
" but I can make music on the drums." I wish the speed freaks would listen.
@ShellyRann5 жыл бұрын
"I Hope".....Pfff ! Little did he know back in 1989 (this interview) that he would dominate in making music on the drums.
@andersdo29255 жыл бұрын
He needs to bring the stache back
@Jeroenvrolijk7 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@bmillerdrums5 жыл бұрын
Funny his heel down technique part went from simple... and w/in a minute he’s doing 16th note triplets w a pretty crazy groove. I wonder what year he went to double pedal Because his single was pretty fucking fast
@josephgiarraffa63793 жыл бұрын
He’s the best there is
@trevormcmanis5 жыл бұрын
Is there video of this interview? This is great stuff!!!
@BeTheDrum5 жыл бұрын
unfortunately, unlikely... this was back in the 80s and there aren't many videos of Vinnie doing clinics anyway. The full audio is posted in the description.
@sethcashman10112 жыл бұрын
This is great!
@DrumsTheWord5 жыл бұрын
Such a fast mind. Muscle memory means shit after a few beats of the bar.
@EmanuelaPescatore7 жыл бұрын
Wow!
@JCarlosOrtiz17 жыл бұрын
Wow and thank you.
@Hiramjo906 жыл бұрын
You deserve more subs!
@bobbycampbell30973 жыл бұрын
Are there transcriptions of what he's playing here?
@sticktrik2 жыл бұрын
Why don’t you just transcribe them!!
@waltonbrown Жыл бұрын
I think the question is ‘what has bass drum speed got to do with groove?’.
@josephmunden44803 жыл бұрын
Wow man
@markpmar03567 жыл бұрын
"I hope."??
@StompL75 жыл бұрын
He probably didn't want to sound presomptuous
@pacmanlp88765 жыл бұрын
The only mistake Vinne does in music: not doing a little more teaching or clinics.
@pedroahets5 жыл бұрын
❤👑🙌
@antkn335 жыл бұрын
My wife think Vinnie looks like Weird Al in that pic.
@bmillerdrums5 жыл бұрын
antkn33 I thought like Chick Korea or bizarro John Oates or some shit
@francescotoni265 жыл бұрын
in conclusione................speed Isn't everything