Vinnie Politan Investigates: The Mistrial of Karen Read

Was a mistrial inevitable in the case against #KarenRead? Court TV's Vinnie Politan investigates the tragic death of Boston Police Officer John O'Keefe.
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[@Victoria_USA_]

It's a disgrace that the O'Keefe family have such closed minds and law enforcement lying and acting as they did that they want someone in prison so badly they overlook facts and law enforcement agencies unbelievable anti professional investigation. The criminals were in that house hopefully one day they open their eyes and see what really took place.

[@brettcantrell8650]

You guys at court TV support the corrupt establishment right?

[@nelsona8285]

@@Victoria_USA_ What really happened was Karen Read, while drunk and angry, hit John O'Keefe with her SUV and left him to freeze in the snow. The O'Keefe family NOT believing the contrived story that Karen told, which was the only way to explain her tail light pieces at the scene of his body, shows they are sane and rational people. This conspiracy theory was taken directly from the headlines today of people willing to believe the MOST unbelievable stories. It is a sad commentary on our society today. People, who have life experiences that don't leave their computer screens, are willing to believe the story that conforms with their nightly movie selections. Corrupt cops commit murder and frame innocent, white girl for the crime. We are doomed in the USA. Common Sense is no longer common.

[@BoxerClover]

@@Victoria_USA_ u have no idea "they want someone in prison so badly." maybe they just want justice for their boy. maybe they're grieving & are a little confused or disoriented. & maybe u could be a bit less judgmental of a family in profound pain. regardless, i'm sure the O'Keefe's are SO sorry to have offended YOU.

[@EC-dz3fb]

​@@Victoria_USA_ Boy, are 𝘆𝗼𝘂 an insensitive dolt.

[@teri3965]

If the jury indeed found her not guilty on 2 counts, this huge error falls on the judge. She should have asked probing questions of the jury to know all details of the divide. She was so biased in this case. Just a waste of time and money.

[@Victoria_USA_]

💯

[@ESPHMacD]

How simple this could have been if she had just either directed them that they could come back with a split verdict OR had she asked if they which charges they were deadlocked on... All, one, two? One question, and this new mess would have been prevented.

[@georgewashington3555]

100% falls on the judge..

[@zyrosqrd2552]

​@ESPHMacD Judge Aunty Bev has gifted the Defense with errors in her legal 'judgment' to be presented to Appellate court before retrial

[@PhillyBirdGang1]

Says everyone who watched this case!! Good point!!

[@staceysteele5064]

Worst judge I’ve ever seen.

[@pennicochrane8886]

SHE DID NOT CONTROL HER COURT AND LET THE DEFENSE GO ON AND ON! HOW MANY HOURS DID THE DEFENCE GO ON AND ON??? GUILTY

[@mrbarco5435]

@@staceysteele5064 nah that title goes to young thug judge smh

[@aaronjaca]

@@pennicochrane8886 what are you smoking

[@williamp6800]

@@pennicochrane8886you’re clearly confused. You’ve got the the prosecution and defence mixed up. And please stop YELLING.

[@stef082773]

I come from a law enforcement family & this is the worst investigation I’ve ever seen! Awful

[@PeterKardas]

Ditto!

[@MsGroovy51]

The JUDGE should have allowed the directed verdict when the prosecution only proved it was snowing! She becomes complicit in the CW inappropriate bringing of this case with lying Troopers, Failed Evidence, No experts that agree on anything, or even actually were experts, Witnesses with a literal Dog in the Fight, and FBI recusing the case based on stating to all- it was not a case.____ If the judge in RUST could DISMISS the case based on Prosecution error, THIS JUDGE should follow suit and at least poll the jury for counts 1 & 3! _____

[@acc4465]

@@MsGroovy51 i like your writing style - it’s very good. but you’re completely wrong on this. there is two pieces evidence that matter - her car log and john’s cell phone gps - they clearly state that john was hit by her car and never entered the house. its unimpeachable evidence. all of the other stuff is just baseless gossip - none of it matters at all - it shouldn’t even have been in the trial. why is colin albert a witness? there is zero evidence he has anything to do with this - unless the defense can show something that ties him - the judge should not allow him to be called. the defense needs to go search the house, go get the dog - whatever they need to do to get some evidence to be allowed to allowed to bring this silliness into the trial.

[@user-nikki007]

@acc4465 I am blaming the Alberts & Mcabes and Higgins 💯

[@acc4465]

@@user-nikki007 we are in the era where people make up their own reality. doesn’t it matter to you that zero evidence supports this? probably not.

[@AngelaJaramillo-ll2hq]

I watched the entire trial and that was worst case ever. I don’t believe the prosecution should have ever brought charges against her. There was way many other people to look at. That entire police department should investigate for their actions and participate in this crime. I don’t believe she had anything to do with it. I am speaking from some legal experience. I spent years trying to get my law degree before my Multiple Sclerosis took over. I worked for several years for different Federal Attorneys and State Attorneys. I just don’t believe that the police department should have been the who did the work for one of their own officers who died. An outside source should have been involved right from the beginning.

[@mariagutierrez4721]

I agree 💯💯💯💯

[@enyarec]

Agree 💯

[@mykingofkings1439]

So you believe that during the same time that John was going through a bad relationship with Karen with constant arguments, confirmed through their texts that someone else came along and killed him.. but not Karen though?.. Not the one who was absolutely raging at him that night, the person who said "John, I hate you you're a loser and a pervert" but someone else. So there were at least two or possibly more people raging at poor John that night.. Karen and his "killers". The odds of that happening make it improbable to believe.. in Karen's own words.."you would be hard pressed to find someone who didn't like John" But on the night he was killed ..he had more than one person who didn't like him.. Karen said she "hated" him.. Why would they need to frame someonel.if they did something? When they could've just said they accidentally hit him with their car. If Proctor was prepared to cover up for them then, he would've accepted it as an accidental death.. case closed. It takes more effort to frame someone.. why not place him on a neighbour's lawn and take themselves out of the situation altogether? Why didn't Karen knock on the door and demand answers on the night or the day after or ever? How did Karen think she may have "incapacitated him".. if she had seen him walk inside? And finally if they are protected and the whole town is corrup then, why did they charge Chris Albert for hit and run years earlier? So they will cover up a murder for the Alberts but not a hit and run? .. They followed the evidence in that case and arrested one of the Alberts!! The evidence shows that Karen was drunk enough and angry enough to hurt John that night... she had more reason and motive than anyone else... the only people involved in a cover up is Karen and her defense team.

[@enyarec]

​@@mykingofkings1439 She didn't kill him.

[@mykingofkings1439]

​@@enyarecoh she did

[@carrow1057]

Why the judge allowed the coverup-ers to sit there and mouth words is beyond me. She is truly biased.

[@stevenprice6957]

She was totally biased. Too soft on Jackson from go to woh.

[@IMSHARP777]

They shouldn't have been allowed in there to sit with the okeefes#1, and #2 theyre still witnesses in the case,no way they should've been intimidating the jury just being there!! Closing arguments weren't done.its completely bogus. The judge goes way back with Morrissey the DA..FACT!!! MORRISSEY WIFE WORKED WITH THE JUDGES MOTHER AT THE QUINCY SCHOOL SYSTEM. THATS A SEVERE BIAS

[@kimberlychelen9890]

​@@stevenprice6957 Steven, you are a Troll Doll...

[@williamp6800]

@@stevenprice6957 trolling, trolling, trolling Steven keeps on trolling

[@stevenprice6957]

@@kimberlychelen9890. You are brainless

[@taynathibault9752]

she called a mistrial before anyone could object.

[@user-ji5gz5fu3g]

They could’ve spoken out and Yannetti asked for a mistrial

[@rkc8588]

I agree even the public should have been told of jury outcomes

[@sunshine22723]

I think you've got it wrong since she first read the jury foreman statement and then declared a mistrial.

[@rkc8588]

@@sunshine22723 yes she did but I thought on some charges , not all, they had decided but we didn’t hear

[@sunshine22723]

Why would anyone object?

[@arnoldstang7997]

Plow driver at 2:45 am, street is clear of vehicles and no body in front yard. Plow driver at 3:30 am, ford fiesta is now on street in front of albert house. Conclusion: Karen is innocent!

[@courtgood52588]

Edge not fiesta but yes I agree with u

[@michellesayers5346]

Light coloured 1 too just like kevin Albert's edge

[@NottyAries]

That's why I can't understand why people are acting like this. Their stubbornness to keep saying KR is guilty is malicious and not based on any facts.

[@SendingFreedomTM]

@@NottyAriesbots for sure or they’re all of the Down syndrome autists coming out lol. Haven’t seen a single actual reason or fact to back their claim

[@priyanidissanayake2224]

Isn’t the plow driver who even has visual impairment looking forward and side of the road while driving and not at other peoples yards

[@blucky1250]

The narrative that KR did it gets viewers but the truth gets you integrity. The DOJ said he wasn’t hit by a car and the car wasn’t hit by him.

[@65cj55]

The DOJ never said that, some contractors with did, and they hadn't seen all the evidence, like the DNA on the Tail Light Housing or the Toyota Data...they had a very small scope, to see if a Bar Glass could break a Tail Light..

[@BoxerClover]

no. the FBI said there wasn't enough evidence to surmise if he'd been struck by a car. THERE'S A DIFFERENCE.

[@jdxx59]

@@BoxerCloverthen that is reasonable doubt?

[@MustangDriver407]

Excellent point here. Thank you

[@NottyAries]

Exactly.

[@carrow1057]

Guilty for being drunk? A woman? The driver? What was the evidence. The jury agreed there was no murder and that no evidence of mva.

[@Victoria_USA_]

Every cop there was driven drunk with the exception of John O'Keefe.

[@AmysPositivePathways]

most definitely a dog bite , common sense dude.

[@stevenprice6957]

As a breeder of pig hunting dogs for around 20 years. They are not dogs bites. Not even close. Dogs breath DNA out as their mouths are so wet. Put your hand near a dogs mouth and see for yourself. Dog bites. Hilarious stuff.

[@NAVY-e8e]

Those are not dog bites.

[@Alextriumph1050]

Agree, most definitely dog bites.

[@rad4579]

@@stevenprice6957 BS

[@rad4579]

@@NAVY-e8e BS

[@jenniferruth812]

I can’t for the life of me figure out why Court TV keeps having Kevin on their panel. It’s embarrassing.

[@65cj55]

Oh, you want Court TV to be a echo chamber, like Turtleboy News...

[@brettcantrell8650]

Because Vinnie the Pooh is desperately trying to get Karen Read in jail with this narrative.

[@Ieezeca]

​@65cj55 I appreciate a challenge to my opinions. I most value ones of perspectives I didn't consider. I don't appreciate inaccurate, impossible ones. I can think of 5 differerent likely & logical scenarios.

[@kathywedzik4905]

kev in needs to embarrsss himself somewhere

[@ThisIsSeeweus]

​@@brettcantrell8650I am not a fan. I thought it was me at first like he's so biased. He asks questions like "prove me wrong" and then cuts people odd when they give their opposite opinion.

[@AmysPositivePathways]

I don't understand how anyone can now believe that Officer Okeefe was struck by a vehicle.. physics people.

[@stevenprice6957]

Says who? What evidence did those why judges have at their disposal? Oh 1/3 of evidence lol. Guilty.

[@tatianagranger2427]

@@stevenprice6957What evidence proved it?

[@Alextriumph1050]

The 2 experts instructed by the FBI stated that, quite clearly, John was NOT struck by a vehicle.

[@sandrah0330]

@tatianagranger2427 - Funny she told Kerry John was dead BEFORE going to the body where Karen immediately saw him. How did she already know that? Also, "I hit him" heard by several people, not just J. McCabe. Reversed 62 ft. like in a rage. Told her dad she reversed and hit something (had to be John). They should have played the video of her dad's interview. Her own words should convict her.

[@s.z.6200]

Physics doesn’t lie, but Jen McCabe does.

[@ericalameda8502]

Paul needs to APOLOGIZE 2 Karen

[@BoxerClover]

🤦🏻‍♂️

[@Ieezeca]

Or Karen needs to get a restraining order. That man has unwarranted, unhealthy and unreasonable anger towards her. He should be asking why none of John's Boston brothers are there supporting the family.

[@NottyAries]

Did you see the interview from one of John's best friends? He said the same stuff Paul said in his interview.

[@Ieezeca]

@@NottyAries Felt like I was watching an interview that had been filmed a year ago.

[@NottyAries]

@@Ieezeca right. The theories they had a year ago made sense because we didn't have any evidence. But the actual evidence changes things.

[@Kishy787]

If they had done a proper investigation, the muderer would be behind bars by now

[@Alextriumph1050]

You mean MURDERERS. ALBERTS AND McCabes are guilty.

[@brettcantrell8650]

they covered up for the murderer. Their mission is accomplished.

[@s.z.6200]

But the killer is a Boston cop too.

[@chrislim7615]

💯 EXACTLY

[@user-ji5gz5fu3g]

The FBI already conducted a thorough investigation (including a Federal Grand Jury and subpoenas issued against BA, BH, CA, MP, etc) and finalized it via a 3,700 page report - finding no evidence of a frame job and conspiracy, and BA, etc, having no involvement in the passing of JO (MP’s text messages being the worst thing in it according to an ex FBI agent). Hence no charges/indictments for crimes/public offences, etc, were laid against any of them and the KR trial proceeded on. None of the alleged frame job and conspiracy theory matters if there’s no evidence to prove it, it doesn’t show a crime and no indictments/charges have been laid, still only against KR. FBI is over - not sure what part of that some people don’t understand.

[@deadmanswife3625]

Rigorous efforts doesn't mean anything to me. Rigorous means hard or difficult. Ever hear of smarter not harder jury? For the 1 million time all the experts said he was not struck by a motor vehicle. That should be enough for all 12 of you right there.

[@katrinat.3032]

I don’t agree. For one thing most experts are just gonna give the opinion for the side that hired them. Secondly, I think everyone has heard of instances where what should’ve been a small injury for someone landed up being very serious. People have a wide range of interpreting data. That’s why a jury of 12 works so well.

[@Asisya18]

@@katrinat.3032 yet, neither side hired the experts from ARCCA for Read's trial. And you can literally look at the man's injuries on his arm and see it is an obvious animal attack. And the injuries were absolutely inconsistent with being hit by a 6,000 pound vehicle leaving only marks on a section of his arm and miraculously NO WHERE else on his body. And while the ARCCA experts have actual science on their side, the DA had a cop that had taken a couple of courses who had no understanding of physics whatsoever. You would have to be an absolute moron to interpret the evidence any other way. And the good news is...the jury agreed and all 12 had voted to acquit her on 2 out of 3 charges.

[@cleone9182]

​@katrinat.3032 neither side hired the experts that determined he wasn't hit by a car.

[@koreo7318]

​@@katrinat.3032Hired by the FBI. There is no impact point

[@zyrosqrd2552]

Not fair to condemn jury as a group. Speaking as a reasonably smart practical professional with 30+ years of experience in my field, I've been stuck working with people who are obstructionist, impractical, indecisive, stubborn, or just plain stupid, as part of a team required to make a decision together. Assuming the scuttlebutt is true about full consensus of Not Guilty of Murder and Leaving Scene charges, a bright group of people could be stuck with a small subset who fixated on Read as guilty of manslaughter, whether they felt need to find guilt for something or had some bias toward LEO or prosecution, dislike for Read- we'll never know the details. But this outcome doesn't mean that most jurors were conscientiously trying to "work smarter", coming to conclusion it wasn't smarter to keep deliberating. The law of diminishing returns kicks in, and you cut your losses to get TF out.

[@rad4579]

The cops killed him.

[@stevenprice6957]

Lol. Was Karen a cop. 😅

[@rad4579]

@@stevenprice6957 No, but the Alberts are.

[@stevenprice6957]

@@rad4579that’s funny. So John didn’t get to the house. You know that right. So did they kill hun when Karen reversed like a whack job lol. Then leave him on the lawn. He didn’t move seconds after the reversal Lol. How did her tail light break lol. There’s a gaping hole in it at 5;07 😮. Magic was it.

[@rad4579]

@@stevenprice6957 Stop believing lying cops.

[@nateb5030]

Do people can’t blame this one on criminals.. cops killed their own not surprising that’s what they do

[@user-th7rs6rj9c]

The judge ruined this entire trial

[@MichaelBronnerLMHC]

The next trial doesn’t have to have Karen Read as the defendant. The next trial needs to have the real suspect/suspects.

[@sunshinewildfire7087]

The judge annoys me to no end.

[@rebeccaswift7588]

The judge annoys every one..she needs to be removed. She is biased, favoring the CW. she rushes the def attys but not the CW. She us rude and condescending to the def attys. I'm sick of hearing hearing her huff and puff with heavy sighs while she twirls her glasses.. She can get away with more crap than most judges because she was appointed by the governor rather than being elected. She needs to go..

[@Ieezeca]

SIGGGGGHHHH...

[@adamroberts8216]

This lady really said there was a complete divide outside the courthouse lol. For over a year its been hundreds of KR supporters. One day there was 5 people against her lol.

[@EC-dz3fb]

🙄She meant it figuratively, not literally. There 𝗶𝘀 life beyond Dedham, fyi.

[@carrow1057]

If I was Karen I would wear what I want, smile, get angry, and clap back at Paul too.

[@stevenprice6957]

Would you. Classy stuff. If I were Karen I’d take responsibility like I did at the beginning instead of blaming everyone but herself.

[@Alextriumph1050]

​@stevenprice6957 Are you an Albert or McCabe??? All evidence points to 34 Fairview.

[@JeepBabe80]

@@stevenprice6957 🤣

[@stevenprice6957]

@@Alextriumph1050What evidence. The evidence that the defence put forward which was all unfounded. Haha. Yeah ok. I’m no one. I don’t like killers. I don’t like Karen because she is one.

[@user-ji5gz5fu3g]

The FBI already conducted a thorough investigation (including a Federal Grand Jury and subpoenas issued against BA, BH, CA, MP, etc) and finalized it via a 3,700 page report - finding no evidence of a frame job and conspiracy, and BA, etc, having no involvement in the passing of JO. Hence no charges/indictments for crimes/public offences, etc, were laid against any of them and the KR trial proceeded on. None of the alleged frame job and conspiracy theory matters if there’s no evidence to prove it, it doesn’t show a crime and no indictments/charges have been laid, still only against KR. FBI is over.

[@butterfliesarefreetofly6964]

The judge was so biased. And when the men of law enforcement were being questioned, she was going all googoo eyes over them. I have never ever seen a judge act the way this woman judge did. She was clearly for the prosecutors side. She did so many things wrong. If and when they do take Karen Read to court again, I hope they move it out of that county, with a different judge.

[@user-nikki007]

NOTHING will change the fact John O'Keefe's apple watch shows him doing 80 steps after Karen dropped him off. He was inside that house. So much hate and so much lies .......

[@user-ji5gz5fu3g]

Wrong!

[@wendydlugos5729]

What an absolute pathetic circus,for John O’Keefe & his family, not to mention Miss Read & family.

[@Ieezeca]

It truly is. I feel for bot families, yet that entire town is out there supporting a woman they Do Not Know. And they are doing it bc they ALL KNOW what happened to their good cop. I feel so dirty about the CW lying to the O'Keefe's and fostering denial. It's terrible for the kids.

[@kerri-lynbryant293]

Miss Reid needs to own up to her actions!

[@williamp6800]

@@kerri-lynbryant293to a possible DUI? ‘Cause that’s all she could possibly be guilty of.

[@jamirfilms]

Kevin is such a clown 🤡

[@kerrygold6494]

So childish, grow up.

[@foxgloved1]

​@@kerrygold6494he is allowed his opinion, he is a clown 🤡

[@foxgloved1]

​​@@kerrygold6494the commenter is allowed their opinion, Kevin is a clown and creepy to boot

[@brettcantrell8650]

yep......who is this guy? Maybe he wants to be part of the Mcalbert gang.

[@BoxerClover]

i bet he's a better musician than u. 😬

[@rebeccaswift7588]

For petes sake, the video of KR backing into JOs car then driving away, shows the tail light was "cracked" but still "in tact"..that proves to me that the tail light pieces that were found later at the crime scene were planted!..AJ said one piece was the size of a salad plate!.. Jenn Mc did the search "hos long to die in cold" at 2:27am, then deleted it. The report and the expert showed that search WAS done at 2:27am..Jenn denies doing the search at that time stating the report is incorrect. She admits doing both searches at 6:23 and 6:24am. Why aren't those times wrong instead of the 2:27am search. Because she did that search just mere hours before JO was found.. The magic hair on the bumper had to be planted as well. There is no way that hair would stay on the bumper when the car traveled 75 miles in a blizard!..

[@TheLydia1011]

Did you ever misspell in a text ? everybody does ! You are just a bitter bully

[@rkc8588]

Yes !

[@aldagalinato9587]

It is very clear that all evidence was planted.

[@LMC290]

Not Guilty

[@AmysPositivePathways]

That guy on the right obviously didn't listen to the ARCA experts and incompetence and tunnel vision of the police.

[@katrinat.3032]

What does ARCA stand for?

[@stevenprice6957]

1/3 of evidence? What was it even worth really ? Lol. Maybe look at all evidence and then make a evaluation or judgment. Ridiculous.

[@Alextriumph1050]

Agree 💯. Karen Read is INNOCENT.

[@courtgood52588]

​@@stevenprice6957if lollypop would have done his job & if there was enough evidence pointing to Karen we wouldn't be where we are today... time to wake up🤷‍♀️

[@stevenprice6957]

@@courtgood52588there’s more than enough evidence. 8 to 4 manslaughter. I believe it is murder but too hard to prove in court. She knew what she did and didn’t reverse by accident. 14 minutes later she said nobody knows where you are? Lol. Ok Karen. First it has to be presented properly and 2nd you have to hope there is no Karen’s and no turtles. Probably impossible as they are popping up all around. Especially with the nonsense thrown up before the trial Started. Fact is none was true and shown to be untrue. Google searches lol ridiculous John going on a house walking up at stairs lol. How? He never moved close to when he walks out of Karen’s car. She swiped him then left him. The conspiracies were ridiculous and even the jury dismissed it quickly. How’s one not guilty. She said the car couldn’t cause the hypothermia 😅😅😅. Wtf is she doing on a jury. Strange. Jury’s cannot be trusted. It should be left to 3 or 5 judges. With one head judge. Some people went into that trial already mind made up. One was bragging about it. If you have people that do that then what’s it all come to. Disgusting. Open mind no bias. Rule on the evidence and the actions of the person up on trial. Karen’s actions were damning. Definitely guilty. Simple hit and run. It’s grown aliens legs. Not sure how we got here. Well I do actually. Karen started a trial through KZbin before the trial even started. Harassment of state witnesses etc. it’s a mess. Karen killed and killed again and again. She should be given the death penalty to be fair. Total destruction. Psychopath

[@MrBetc]

Still no Justice for the death of John O'Keefe.💔❤💔

[@stevenprice6957]

Not until Karen is behind bars

[@janlalumiere1345]

​@@stevenprice6957yup, she's guilty

[@Alextriumph1050]

​@@stevenprice6957Evidence Steven ?????

[@kimberlychelen9890]

​@@stevenprice6957 You are a certified stalker on this "street". Damnitdamn!

[@luciaconn6788]

that's why I think, (unless the FBI exculpatory dumps) they might have a second trial as smoke screen for the real killer(s) to hide behind.

[@tammyglasenappsimon4941]

I have to say I strongly disagree with the statements about a dog bite on both sides of arm. I was bite/attack by a chow. You bend your arm to protect you face. Think of it sneezing you bend your arm to sneeze in arm. Those were defiently dog bites scratches.

[@stevenprice6957]

Not dog bites. Not even close. Canine DNA would saturate the whole area. Common sense. It’s fairy story stuff implying a dog lol.

[@LiminalStatesPhotography]

You do realize though that there are obviously different kinds of breeds of dogs with different variations of teeth? Like a chow dog is obviously in aggressive breed and known to attack people, my uncle had one and it almost bit me when I was four or five.

[@NottyAries]

Right! I'm so tired of people making excuses for why it's not a dog bite. It's like they think people are stupid.

[@stevenprice6957]

@@NottyArieshang on. Hard to read. You are saying they are dog bites correct ?

[@SendingFreedomTM]

@@stevenprice6957yes they are

[@taynathibault9752]

bev the soo called judge confused the jury.. she explained her so called instructions and emphasized what she wanted them to hear.. feel sorry for okeefe family.. judge has a Huge part in them getting No justice..i hope she is happy for railroading this non verdict..😢

[@carrow1057]

1. Apple watch data 2. Phone data 3. car telemetrics 4. all parties data. Overlay it all. Should tell the story.

[@stevenprice6957]

It does with GPS. The conspiracy is ridiculous and Karen is guilty.

[@message___deleted]

@@stevenprice6957🤡

[@sherry8894]

​@@stevenprice6957 😂😂😂😂 USE YOUR BRAIN. SCIENCE DON'T LIE. Now what? 😂

[@Alextriumph1050]

​@@stevenprice6957What evidence do they have against Karen??? Zero.

[@domenicgalata1470]

@@stevenprice6957Hilarious. These LEO’s are clowns and the FBI will hopefully blow the case out of the water and the prosecution witnesses will eventually be charged. When you get 2 or more Cops telling the exact same story it’s bullshit.

[@lisajeter9511]

My heart breaks for John O’Keefe’s family especially John’s Mom. But I don’t believe KR is Guilty either. There is too much reasonable doubt & shady behavior going on with the Canton PD.

[@AshleyLinnell]

Oh my gosh! They found her not guilty on 2 counts!

[@BaoVwm4Christ]

I can’t stand this Kevin guy. He makes zero sense.

[@BoxerClover]

& we can't stand u.

[@leximarie3808]

Mrs. O'keefe broke my heart until I saw her snickering and laughing at the vile things Proctor had called KR.

[@EC-dz3fb]

Just leave her alone. People in profound grief often do weird, confusing things. It's a literal Hell.

[@leximarie3808]

@@EC-dz3fb In the last two years I've lost both parents, my only sister, my beautiful daughter and numerous other friends, family, my dog and horse. I don't need your explanation of profound grief. I don't know anyone, myself included, who would laugh at the things that came out of Proctor's mouth. I simply made a comment. We can disagree.

[@BoxerClover]

@@leximarie3808 apparently you YOU can't be disagreed WITH. u don't own grief & it's not a contest to see whom should be more profoundly grief-stricken. it doesn't make anyone an expert on it- nor a judge. u of all people might very well know how it hits different people differently. & for all u know @EC has suffered the same as u or more- does that somehow give any of us carte blanche to judge the broken-hearted?

[@michellesayers5346]

​@@EC-dz3fbBull they are nasty

[@Tamara-id1pe]

@@BoxerCloverno, but we all can judge the actions of others, and laughing at Proctor’s vile comments speaks volumes

[@hayesedwards4883]

What a shame. Hope the next jury can see through all the bs and false narratives.

[@dvb1746]

And Kevin is really unnecessary

[@kimberlychelen9890]

And useless...

[@BoxerClover]

😆 your comments are both unnecessary & useless- well done!

[@Ieezeca]

I don't like him in my brainspace, accusing an innocent woman while condemning others for accusing the ones who are responsible and know what happened.

[@user-ji5gz5fu3g]

@@Ieezeca The FBI already conducted a thorough investigation (including a Federal Grand Jury and subpoenas issued against BA, BH, CA, MP, etc) and finalized it via a 3,700 page report - finding no evidence of a frame job and conspiracy, and BA, etc, having no involvement in the passing of JO. Hence no charges/indictments for crimes/public offences, etc, were laid against any of them and the KR trial proceeded on. None of the alleged frame job and conspiracy theory matters if there’s no evidence to prove it, it doesn’t show a crime and no indictments/charges have been laid, still only against KR.

[@MsGroovy51]

Its court tv's attempt to look legitimate. They believe we are only watching for the argument and hype. This is so much deeper than that. I truly appreciate Turtle Boy and all the others who do real reporting and have real guests that have real integrity. Court tv is making me feel icky to watch it.

[@yellowcottagetales]

Blaming innocent people for crimes where there is literally no evidence is what happens in witch hunts and pograms.

[@EC-dz3fb]

👏!!!

[@user-ji5gz5fu3g]

💯

[@erikaarpin6063]

Its been 3 months you accuse an innocent woman, that don't seem to bordered you.. Do what I say not what I do, eh!

[@user-ji5gz5fu3g]

@@erikaarpin6063 The FBI already conducted a thorough investigation (including a Federal Grand Jury and subpoenas issued against BA, BH, CA, MP, etc) and finalized it via a 3,700 page report - finding no evidence of a frame job and conspiracy, and BA, etc, having no involvement in the passing of JO. Hence no charges/indictments for crimes/public offences, etc, were laid against any of them and the KR trial proceeded on. None of the alleged frame job and conspiracy theory matters if there’s no evidence to prove it, it doesn’t show a crime and no indictments/charges have been laid, still only against KR.

[@user-ji5gz5fu3g]

@@erikaarpin6063 The defense didn’t get it done. Whilst the prosecution has a burden of proof, when the defense said KR was framed, in the eyes of the jury they made this case a binary decision - either she’s guilty or she was framed and put the burden on themselves to deliver at least something proving it and definitively. They didn’t ask the big questions of the big witnesses, couldn’t name/prove the alleged third party culprit, didn’t prove the alleged frame job and conspiracy and didn’t get a not guilty verdict (nor in one day as alleged).

[@lisajeter9511]

Between the Judge in the KR trial and Judge Glanville, I’ve lost all faith in the Justice System. Both Judges have disgraced the Bench and the Robes they dare to put on their backs every day!

[@rebelred5526]

I would like to have a proper and thorough investigation to firm up what happened to JO

[@user-ji5gz5fu3g]

The expert hired by the FBI (Mr. Wolfe) called by the defense, said the taillight could not have been damaged from KR hitting JO’s SUV: “I hit him, I hit him, I hit him” - “Dad I think I struck something” - “I remember backing up and hitting something” - “What I thought could have happened was that, did I incapacitate him unwittingly somehow, and then in his drunkenness he passed out” - KR.

[@cclmontoya]

Sending the wrong person to prison is not what John O. Would have wanted.

[@kerri-lynbryant293]

No. But Karen Read hit him. So.. it would only be justice for his family. I think he'd like that for his old Mumx

[@user-ji5gz5fu3g]

The FBI already conducted a thorough investigation (including a Federal Grand Jury and subpoenas issued against BA, BH, CA, MP, etc) and finalized it via a 3,700 page report - finding no evidence of a frame job and conspiracy, and BA, etc, having no involvement in the passing of JO (MP’s text messages being the worst thing in it according to an ex FBI agent). Hence no charges/indictments for crimes/public offences, etc, were laid against any of them and the KR trial proceeded on. None of the alleged frame job and conspiracy theory matters if there’s no evidence to prove it, it doesn’t show a crime and no indictments/charges have been laid, still only against KR. FBI is over.

[@Tamara-id1pe]

@@user-ji5gz5fu3gthe FBI concluded John O’Keefe was not hit by a car. The state’s attorney told the local prosecutor not to take this to trial. The FBI never gave any conclusion to their investigation

[@justmegaming1169]

So in this case if the steps DONT mean steps according to the police expert … how is the evidence allowed in court cases? Many people are in jail today when the cops 👮 say this data is accurate, but in this case it dont help their case so they say the opposite and thats ok? 🤯

[@proveit602]

I agree 100%! It’s evident steps were taken to prove he went inside the home. What happens afterwards is in the science.

[@NottyAries]

The expert from the CW side clearly testified under oath that Karen was back at John's home at 12:36 am, and would have to have left 34 Fairview 12:30 am or sooner. And the Apple data has John still walking around at 12:32.

[@NottyAries]

@VidaLoca-q5h I don't remember what part you're talking about. Can you give me more info?

[@NottyAries]

@VidaLoca-q5h I'll go back and look at the day they were talking about the apple health data and let you know.

[@williamp6800]

The CW was working really hard to invalidate phone data in any future prosecution.

[@PamelaMorris-fy5mb]

After the 4 jurors have come out recently & made their statements about them all being 100% convinced on counts 1 & 3 of Karen Read being not guilty, there won’t be a 2nd trial. We now know the splits, there was 0 Splits, 12/0 - not guilty on all counts for #1 & #3, & the 2nd count wasn’t given the counts.

[@deadmanswife3625]

That note from the foreman was ridiculous. If you're going to sit there and say you're deeply held convictions are preventing you from using your brain and considering only the evidence then you haven't done your job so go back and do it but for some reason the judge just loved the idea of a mistrial

[@LiminalStatesPhotography]

You can’t trust bootlickers to have a brain.

[@NottyAries]

@@deadmanswife3625 Just say you don't understand the process without saying it. 12 different people, have 12 different opinions and 12 different understanding of facts. It's not unheard of for juries to be deadlocked. Just like you refuse to understand this trial, the evidence and logic - you'll never change your mind. Now picture people like you on the jury. No one can change your mind and you can't change their mind = hung jury.

[@zyrosqrd2552]

No shade to Vinnie, but his opening comments are sensationalism. Does a jury 'decide' the absolute truth? 'Not guilty' doesnt equal 'innocent', by definition it means 'not proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt based on evidence '. If there had been full verdict of Not Guilty on all charges, would that give 'closure' to OKeefe family, if they wanted guilty verdict. The evidence was tainted beyond repair, as demonstrated by behavior and testimony of chief investigator. As the infamous OJ claimed after his acquittal: "you can either believe the cops tried to frame an innocent man or the cops tried to frame a guilty man". If the cops look dirty and evidence is manipulated, it almost doesn't matter if Read's car hit him or not; honest jurors will see reasonable doubt. Even skumm-bag Proctor's texts claiming he was sure Read hit OKeefe, he said he didn't know if it was by accident. There will be controversy about this case no matter what happens next, and there will be no 'truth' established.

[@NottyAries]

Vinnie has been like this throughout the entire trial. I'm shocked and disappointed. Based on his opinions over the last couple of months, he thinks KR is guilty. He never really goes in depth about the evidence that proves KR isn't guilty. We're definitely in dark times when people ignore the facts so completely.

[@user-ji5gz5fu3g]

The FBI already conducted a thorough investigation (including a Federal Grand Jury and subpoenas issued against BA, BH, CA, MP, etc) and finalized it via a 3,700 page report - finding no evidence of a frame job and conspiracy, and BA, etc, having no involvement in the passing of JO. Hence no charges/indictments for crimes/public offences, etc, were laid against any of them and the KR trial proceeded on. None of the alleged frame job and conspiracy theory matters if there’s no evidence to prove it, it doesn’t show a crime and no indictments/charges have been laid, still only against KR. FBI is over.

[@jdxx59]

The guy that dismissed the dog bites has zero knowledge. I was bitten on the stomach by a cattle dog and my injury looked very similar to JoK’s. And my dress wasn’t ripped either. He needs to do some research if he’s going to comment on this topic. And he discounted an expert who has seen over a thousand dog bites! How utterly ridiculous of him to dismiss her!

[@tonisodano5472]

The OKEEFE family should try to open their minds to see reality. Poor things Thoughts & prayers 🙏❤️‍🩹🙏

[@EC-dz3fb]

You're a monster.

[@user-ji5gz5fu3g]

The FBI already conducted a thorough investigation (including a Federal Grand Jury and subpoenas issued against BA, BH, CA, MP, etc) and finalized it via a 3,700 page report - finding no evidence of a frame job and conspiracy, and BA, etc, having no involvement in the passing of JO. Hence no charges/indictments for crimes/public offences, etc, were laid against any of them and the KR trial proceeded on. None of the alleged frame job and conspiracy theory matters if there’s no evidence to prove it, it doesn’t show a crime and no indictments/charges have been laid, still only against KR. FBI is over.

[@rkc8588]

Unfortunately there was no investigation and now too late , tampered or lack of evidence and phone’s destroyed . Gonna be hard for FBI too . Sad for OJO he deserved a thorough investigation 🙏🏽

[@user-ji5gz5fu3g]

@@rkc8588 There was an investigation, also how the defense ended up with BA’s etc, phone records and the FBI hired experts completed reports and testified. I don’t know what you are talking about but there absolutely was. It was finalized via a 3,700 page report. Also there was evidence via the trial pointing to KR’s guilt.

[@johngillon6969]

Evil Judge!

[@camillaSweden]

I bet she know some off the ppl for sure

[@carrow1057]

Hey Kevin, I was not whipped up. I had never heard of you nor TB. I dont like TB. He calls women the same things Proctor did. All I heard was they were unclear how he died. I immediately assumed he went into the house, and was attacked by the dog (which was rehomed, as was flloor, house and phones). Later I realised how big the story was. I only go on TB's channel to tell him to stop calling himself a doctor. I abhor the idea of people protesting ppls homes (except corrupt grifting SC judges). I have followed all the missteps of the investigation. I believe she did google at 2.27am. I cant wait until one breaks with the pack and they all get owned. This coverup is horrific.

[@AmysPositivePathways]

The timeline the CW presented gave KR an alibi she was connected to Officer Okeefes wifi at 1236

[@katrinat.3032]

Yes, I agree. I can’t make heads or tails out of this. Because my gut tells me she hit him, but didn’t know it. But the WiFi doesn’t bear that out. I really hope they can get a big analysis of all the phones again so we can figure out where everybody was and when.

[@stevenprice6957]

Incorrect. That gave her 5 mins. We know she slammed it on reverse. Who’s to say she didn’t slam it driving home in a panic. Was it 12:36,50? We don’t know. Karen is a killer. Fact

[@Tess-163]

@@stevenprice6957💯💯

[@Alextriumph1050]

​@@katrinat.30322 FBI experts said that he was not hit by any vehicle.

[@Alextriumph1050]

​@@stevenprice6957Your facts are wrong. 2 FBI EXPERTS STATED THAT HE WAS NOT HIT BY AMY VEHICLE.

[@foxgloved1]

I love that picture of Karen and her Father, people lie Apple health Data doesn't

[@Victoria_USA_]

JUSTICE 4 KAREN 🎉

[@silviaemenendez746]

Honestly this looks more like a dog bite/scratches than being hit by a huge vehicle like the one she was driving!!! No bruising or broken bones??? Come on!!! Why is she not FREE!!!!!

[@BoxerClover]

one guess.

[@user-ji5gz5fu3g]

The FBI already conducted a thorough investigation (including a Federal Grand Jury and subpoenas issued against BA, BH, CA, MP, etc) and finalized it via a 3,700 page report - finding no evidence of a frame job and conspiracy, and BA, etc, having no involvement in the passing of JO. Hence no charges/indictments for crimes/public offences, etc, were laid against any of them and the KR trial proceeded on. None of the alleged frame job and conspiracy theory matters if there’s no evidence to prove it, it doesn’t show a crime and no indictments/charges have been laid, still only against KR. FBI is over.

[@silviaemenendez746]

FBI is over? Still people lied and rehomed dogs sold home and on leave and or demoted??? 😅 still reasonable doubt!!!!

[@blkseal1]

For a fair trial, the New jury must be cleared of all witches.

[@proveit602]

In all honesty, I feel like Officer Guarino hit the nail on the head with the timeline and steps, but later retracted by saying that the steps taken didn’t happen. What??? It makes perfect sense. The health data speaks for itself. Officer JOK went inside that house.

[@Michelle-from-SC]

Did the jury fill out any part of the jury form and were they allowed to ask the judge a question when she went back to speak with them?

[@katrinat.3032]

That’s what I was wondering. Why didn’t they talk to the judge about this and say look we unanimous in two charges but can’t agree on the middle charge.

[@NottyAries]

I went back and watched the judge read the instructions and this is what she said verbatim about the verdict. "Don't tell anyone, including me, how the jury stands numerically or otherwise, on the questions before such time as you have reached a unanimous verdict." They were told not to ask questions or speak on the charges (questions) if not unanimous.

[@GNX157]

Bonnie, I think you are in error when you say “the jury didn’t get it done”. They did exactly what they should have done to the best of their ability, and the system functioned as designed based on that.

[@JustMe-pu3xm]

Every time I see this case.. I think about Proctor saying.. Ballon Knot… I never heard of that before in my 55 years of life..

[@Peace-Love-One-365]

I'm 53 and haven't heard it either until Proctor. It's filth just like that gross "c" word he also called her. Yuck!!! He also said "hopefully she kills herself". He definitely needs some spiritual help.

[@neryskkiran1820]

Hey Vinnie, you gonna entertain talk, again, about how KR was broadcasting that she was "open for business" when she was checking Brian Higgins out, and implying tbat she deserved anything that happened to her after that? I got enough of that, and other misogynist-friendly content, the last two KR related videos of yours I bothered watching.

[@williamthompson2941]

WHAT - it is not the Jury's job to tell you what happened. Their job is to determined whether or not Lally prove Read was guilty as charged beyond a reasonable doubt. It appears some Jury members would convict on the manslaughter charge, though the only way they could believe that is to ignore the real accidents experts? If, as is being reported, they disagreed on Count two, having agreed Read was not guilty of charge 3, that is what is known elsewhere as a perverse verdict.

[@julietfairley4746]

Sustain sustain sustain?? Judge Bev?

[@TheOtherBoleynGirl336]

Poor Vinnie. He was really hoping for a Baldwin conviction and it ended up as a dismissal! Excellent!

[@Rn.Lisa.W]

Agree

[@roseharvey2664]

Hopefully, Vinnie knows that Karen had nothing to do with the passing of John's sister and brother in law. Nor did she orphan their children, in fact fact she got close to and truly cared for them. He seems to be piling all that in with this trial. Justice for John and the O'Keefe family was extremely compromised by the corrupt police investigating his clearly brutal murder.

[@ktalbotm1]

I do NOT feel sorry for Paul. His brother clearly got beaten to death by his brothers in blue, not hit by a car. And his family is standing by the men that lead to his HORRIFIC death. Beaten, attacked by a dog and thrown on the lawn. And Paul, that big bully thug just glared at her the whole trial. Shame on him for choosing his hate for a woman over the truth about his brother's death. What a wimp. Not to mention he paralyzed somebody, hitting them while driving drunk and KAREN bailed him out!!

[@wolfpecker5710]

💯💯💯

[@Joh605]

Don't understand why you people attack his brother it's so arrogant and disrespectful. Paul and his family are entitled to their opinion and they think Karen did it. He's not a WIMP for staring at her I'd b doin the same exact thing as him if I sat that close to a women that I thought killed my brother. So why don't you grow up and stop wasting your negative energy towards the okeefs.

[@Joh605]

Also what is the relevance of Karen supposedly bailed Paul out for hitting someone??? Has NOTHING to do with anything. Wouldn't matter if he hit 10 people with his car and Karen bailed him out everytime does not have anything to do with anything. Bozo🤡

[@ktalbotm1]

@@Joh605 so if your relative was murdered and thrown on a lawn wouldn't want to know the truth. Cool.

[@Joh605]

@ktalbotm1 He has made his mind on who killed his brother and it's Karen Read. He does not have to agree with you people or anyone he and his family feel that it was Karen so people should respect their opinion. They also are victims in this.

[@user-ji5gz5fu3g]

KR told LE that she damaged her taillight the “night” before but didn’t know how (confirmed by testimony and her arraignment hearing) and had also told Kerry Roberts and Jen McCabe (KR admits this via a later interview). If KR was referring to hitting JO’s SUV after 5:00 am (and after she had allegedly gone to sleep around 1:30 am) she would not have used the word “night” but would have said “morning”. Indicating she knew she hit JO that night and it was hitting him that damaged her taillight. Full stop.

[@bluegypsydoll]

Mistrial is just a way of saying go back and do it again, make a better case.

[@georgewashington3555]

Its Ideal to have a mainn Investigator.. Trooper proctor.. the man that was in charge.. Now taken off his job.. for Internal investigation.. oh.. Without Pay. NONO NO $$$$

[@enpasant12]

Kevin accusing KR of killing JO when the evidence is showing something different also “Has To Stop”

[@EC-dz3fb]

You're who "has to stop" - and get a grip. Have you noticed there's a trial going on? 😂

[@michellesayers5346]

Its finished ​@@EC-dz3fb

[@user-ji5gz5fu3g]

@@michellesayers5346 It absolutely is not. Keep up and keep it real!

[@user-ji5gz5fu3g]

The FBI already conducted a thorough investigation (including a Federal Grand Jury and subpoenas issued against BA, BH, CA, MP, etc) and finalized it via a 3,700 page report - finding no evidence of a frame job and conspiracy, and BA, etc, having no involvement in the passing of JO. Hence no charges/indictments for crimes/public offences, etc, were laid against any of them and the KR trial proceeded on. None of the alleged frame job and conspiracy theory matters if there’s no evidence to prove it, it doesn’t show a crime and no indictments/charges have been laid, still only against KR. FBI is over.

[@KWKennedy111]

Karen Read is factually innocent.

[@stevenprice6957]

😂😂😆

[@Alextriumph1050]

​@@stevenprice6957evidence??????

[@elsabelabuschagne2142]

They could not get to an verdict because the wrong person was indicted

[@lillibitjohnson7293]

Vinnie is always saying he on,y wants the truth, but ignores the truth when it’s placed on a platter under his nose.

[@NottyAries]

Exactly. Such a disappointment.

[@user-ji5gz5fu3g]

The FBI already conducted a thorough investigation (including a Federal Grand Jury and subpoenas issued against BA, BH, CA, MP, etc) and finalized it via a 3,700 page report - finding no evidence of a frame job and conspiracy, and BA, etc, having no involvement in the passing of JO. Hence no charges/indictments for crimes/public offences, etc, were laid against any of them and the KR trial proceeded on. None of the alleged frame job and conspiracy theory matters if there’s no evidence to prove it, it doesn’t show a crime and no indictments/charges have been laid, still only against KR. FBI is over.

[@lillibitjohnson7293]

@@user-ji5gz5fu3g the FBI also said he wasn’t his by a vehicle

[@lillibitjohnson7293]

@@user-ji5gz5fu3g “Federal investigation In February, the U.S. Attorney's office provided over 3,000 pages of documents about their investigation into the case. Defense attorney Alan Jackson said in court Tuesday that included in the paperwork was information about federal investigators hiring a reconstruction expert. "The federal investigators hired, independent of us, we had no idea, and independent of the Commonwealth, hired a professional reconstructionist, three PhDs, to look into exactly this issue," Jackson said. "Did Karen Read's SUV make contact with John O'Keefe? And their conclusion, to a person, was his injuries were inconsistent with the damage on the car. The damage on the car was inconsistent with having made contact with John O'Keefe's body. In other words, the car didn't hit him, and he wasn't hit by the car."”

[@user-ji5gz5fu3g]

@@lillibitjohnson7293 The expert hired by the FBI (Mr. Wolfe) called by the defense, said the taillight could not have been damaged from KR hitting JO’s SUV: “I hit him, I hit him, I hit him” - “Dad I think I struck something” - “I remember backing up and hitting something” - “What I thought could have happened was that, did I incapacitate him unwittingly somehow, and then in his drunkenness he passed out” - KR.

[@mariagutierrez4721]

Hi Vinnie and Court TV Thank You So Much ❤❤ . Justice For Officer👮🏻 John'KeeFe Justice For Karen Read

[@robbymonaco3738]

If KR was really guilty of vehicular manslaughter, it would have been so easy for the prosecution to build an iron clad case. Just the fact that they had to fiddle with the evidence tells you right there that she is not guilty

[@BoxerClover]

NOTHING about this case has been obvious nor easy.

[@robbymonaco3738]

@@BoxerClover The only thing that's obvious is that the investigation was sub par.

[@user-ji5gz5fu3g]

The FBI already conducted a thorough investigation (including a Federal Grand Jury and subpoenas issued against BA, BH, CA, MP, etc) and finalized it via a 3,700 page report - finding no evidence of a frame job and conspiracy, and BA, etc, having no involvement in the passing of JO. Hence no charges/indictments for crimes/public offences, etc, were laid against any of them and the KR trial proceeded on. None of the alleged frame job and conspiracy theory matters if there’s no evidence to prove it, it doesn’t show a crime and no indictments/charges have been laid, still only against KR. FBI is over.

[@jojozep7820]

Out of curiosity and a non American…..who holds your judges accountable? Can an investigation be launched against a judge for inappropriate judgement?

[@lynnehuey3020]

Yes

[@dannettetaylor3871]

The defense did challenge the car data. They showed the key cycle for that data came when Proctor had possession of the vehicle. The defense did challenge the apple health data. They proved her phone reconnected with the wifi at his house and he was still climbing stairs. I watched the trial with no previous knowledge of it. The prosecution made me believe my law enforcement brothers are corrupt. Proctor, The two Alberts and Higgens are a disgrace to the badge.

[@tonisodano5472]

Yikes Susan is a bit of a fool It was not a “ complete divide “ not even close what a silly person. Wow

[@countrygirl5579]

LETS HOPE ITS A WIN FOR KAREN!!

[@babs3652]

How is it possible to interpret the jurors note that they weren't totally deadlocked?

[@jdxx59]

That guy saying there is evidence that was not taken into account like the police not having the opportunity to plant evidence is total BS…they had plenty of time and that was proven when they lied about what time they got her vehicle to the Sallyport and how evidence was found at the scene sometime after they had the car and they definitely had the opportunity to take evidence off the car taillight. This guy is ignoring evidence of a framing. Where is the library footage?

[@katrinat.3032]

I’ve never understood why KR looks happy, relieved and defiant about the mistrial. Once they said mistrial she should have thought sh!t At least some or one thought I was guilty!

[@wolfpecker5710]

Obviously because she wasn’t being put in handcuffs and sent to prison in that exact moment. You’d be happy too if you’d clearly been framed by the police in that town and just got found on mistrial.

[@cynthiadaniels3074]

So four jurors have said they were unanimous in two counts of not guilty out of 3! Keep up Vinny.

[@michellesayers5346]

11 didn't though

[@barbaradodge1442]

rita stop foaming at the mouth and go home

[@m5sunflower665]

Lally had no business bringing in Aruba trip that was over He did not bring forth one reputable witness It was clear John was bitten to the average viewer But Dr. Gillespie and the witness from the Feds sealed the deal, the lack of investigation by Proctor was like a paw patrol cartoon. He clearly with his texts proved he intended to NOT properly investigate by not going in that Albert house . Proctor is a disgrace and he fully intended to try his best to frame Karen. It’s just so clear she did not hurt John . The judge …. Best I do not comment

[@user-ji5gz5fu3g]

The defense didn’t get it done. Whilst the prosecution has a burden of proof, when the defense said KR was framed, in the eyes of the jury they made this case a binary decision - either she’s guilty or she was framed and put the burden on themselves to deliver at least something proving it and definitively. They didn’t ask the big questions of the big witnesses, couldn’t name/prove the alleged third party culprit, didn’t prove the alleged frame job and conspiracy and didn’t get a not guilty verdict (nor in one day as alleged).

[@michellesayers5346]

Cars don't bite

[@user-ji5gz5fu3g]

@@michellesayers5346 Are you trying to refer to the one toothed and no bottom toothed dog! The expert hired by the FBI (Mr. Wolfe) called by the defense, said the taillight could not have been damaged from KR hitting JO’s SUV: “I hit him, I hit him, I hit him” - “Dad I think I struck something” - “I remember backing up and hitting something” - “What I thought could have happened was that, did I incapacitate him unwittingly somehow, and then in his drunkenness he passed out” - KR.

[@PhillyBirdGang1]

I think there are 3 KR haters left in America.

[@EC-dz3fb]

What?! MANY people 𝗹𝗼𝘃𝗲 Keanu Reeves!

[@BoxerClover]

@@EC-dz3fb😂❣️

[@PhillyBirdGang1]

@@EC-dz3fb 😂 I’m one of them!

[@joannamccaffrey2992]

A dog probably found him in the morning as scratches were fresh according to defenses own expert

[@NottyAries]

No. They can tell when injuries are post or pre-mortem. They were made when he was still alive.

[@NottyAries]

@@joannamccaffrey2992it's crying when people are wrong and say "duh." Yikes. No. He was not alive. He was frozen. Paramedics testified in court that when they got to him, he had no heart rate, pulse and wasn't breathing. For all intents and purposes he was deceased. However, it was also testified in court, that in Massachusetts, people found frozen cannot be declared dead UNTIL they reach room temperature. He was physically decreased, but procedurally alive. You have a lot of opinions for someone that didn't watch the trial.

[@joannamccaffrey2992]

@NottyAries yes you are probably right...I watched as much as I could of a woman who'd previously admitted guilt multiple times along with her father and lawyer doing so...until she realized how much trouble she'd actually get into even if accidental then tried to frame police with fancy lawyer....unfortunately prosecution did a pathetic job and the entity nearly pulled it off....

[@joannamccaffrey2992]

@NottyAries of course It's my belief that the entity did it intentionally and tried to cover it up with those voice messages...batsht crazy

[@joannamccaffrey2992]

I also think vehicle hit him in head as he bent down to tie shoe or slipped as he was trying to get out of the way as her bat mobile came flying towards him in reverse....

[@wicketuma444]

In the beginning, Yanetti stood on the courthouse steps and proclaimed it was a tragic accident. AJ comes to town with his pre innocence fraud propaganda circus and boom, she was framed. She's guilty. "I hit him, I hit him, I hit him!"

[@mollykillarney2419]

I don't understand how this can't be entered into evidence because of attorney-client privilege. Yannetti literally announced it! 📢

[@josephkain6213]

Lies Lies Lies yeah The whistleblower Scanlon had already come forward by Feb 3rd. Do better shameful McAlbert familiars. Justice coming for JJ, in FBI windbreakers. Psst theres a man passed out in the snow sickening

[@BoxerClover]

@@josephkain6213 😂 u realize even TB doesn't believe Scanlon's story, anymore- right?!

[@josephkain6213]

punchdrunk with the alternative reality. Lemme guess the FBI didn't release over 3,000 pages of exculpatory evidence and there isn't an ongoing federal investigation into this investigation 🙄

[@user-cf5df7xo1t]

Karen Read is innocent 💯

[@user-ji5gz5fu3g]

The FBI already conducted a thorough investigation (including a Federal Grand Jury and subpoenas issued against BA, BH, CA, MP, etc) and finalized it via a 3,700 page report - finding no evidence of a frame job and conspiracy, and BA, etc, having no involvement in the passing of JO. Hence no charges/indictments for crimes/public offences, etc, were laid against any of them and the KR trial proceeded on. None of the alleged frame job and conspiracy theory matters if there’s no evidence to prove it, it doesn’t show a crime and no indictments/charges have been laid, still only against KR. FBI is over.

[@claudettelindsey7542]

John O' Keefe RIP

[@BoxerClover]

💙

[@user-ji5gz5fu3g]

The defense motion contradicts the jury foreman’s note to the judge, including the jury; was deadlocked (was split and never able to make a decision), did not announce any verdicts in open court, failed to fill out any verdict forms and was dismissed by the judge upon a hung jury. The defense called for a mistrial and did not; ask for a verdict on a count/s, and submit to the court that they would take a verdict on that count/s, and that on the count/s they were hung on a mistrial could be declared. What occurred is not double jeopardy and has no rational/proper basis and is bound to fail: Blueford v Arkansas, 566, U.S. 599 (2012) - Supreme Court.

[@LB13394]

I feel horrible for OJO family but if she is innocent given what the experts said about him not being hit by a car. The real person or persons should be found and prosecuted so both of these families can have peace.

[@Stuckinthemiddle8214]

To all of those convinced of Karen Read’s guilt, how do you dismiss the independent ARCA expert’s analysis which was not refuted by any credible scientific analysis? At the very least, it propels this case far beyond ‘reasonable doubt’ toward exoneration. Isn’t our nations standard of “guilt beyond a reasonable doubt” a cornerstone of civil rights and a requirement for conviction? This case should never have been brought. It is egregious prosecutorial overreach. John O’Keefe deserves true justice and honest pursuit of the truth. The fact that the commonwealth was allowed to bring a second degree murder charge allowed all kinds of erroneous and prejudicial information to trial which tainted jurors opinions through character assassination. Judge Cannone blew this on many levels. If any charges were allowed it should have been limited to manslaughter and this would have been a completely different (and far fairer) trial.

[@NottyAries]

They don't care about that. They really don't. And they wonder how people can believe in cover-ups. Smdh

[@Stuckinthemiddle8214]

It doesn’t have to be all or nothing. My point is that the injuries and damage to the car pretty much rule out KR’s vehicle so how could it be her? The lack of a timely, unbiased, proper investigation, and the favoritism/special treatment toward the thin blue line guarantee we may never know what happened to JO. It doesn’t have to be a vast conspiracy that involved all-rather, an improper initial investigation and willingness of a few key players to look the other way or cover for a chosen few and a corrupt and blood thirsty DA’s office. But I do appreciate your civility and your articulate comments. Thank you.

[@user-ji5gz5fu3g]

@@Stuckinthemiddle8214 The "physics" allegedly ruling out that JO was hit by KR's SUV: 1. The FBI external expert (ARCCA - litigation consultants) who was hired by the FBI (not an employee), used only high school level math (in a murder case) and only tested two or three possible scenarios, of which proved and disproved nothing, and was nonsense. A person that has taken college engineering physics and differential equations would even know this. 2. Real physics have angles for every potential source of force, dampeners for soft surfaces that could absorb impact, distribution of force across lateral expanses, and many other variables. 3. The expert did not consider the angle at which JO was struck which would play a great role in what conclusion they come up with, but only wanted to address head on collisions. And only tested JO’s head injury and how go break the taillight and did not look at any measurements (where things were found, etc). 4. Further, whilst the expert relied upon a motor vehicle accident and the test was on a static solid crash dummy, this was inaccurate. 5. When you are intoxicated the body and muscles are relaxed, also senses are affected. If you are sober you are firmer on your feet and more tense. 6. None of the experts tested the scenario that JO may have made a defensive move before he was hit and there are a million different ways he could have been hit (eg. crouching down, slipped and fell, before being hit). Nor did they consider that being intoxicated he would fall much easier and have less severe injuries, than if he was sober. 7. Also, was it a clip at speed and he attempted to spin out of the way and just put his arm out (with glass in hand) for protection, and did JO crawl/stumble or get dragged at all? 8. The ME did not attend to x-rays therefore it is unknown whether JO had any broken bones which are often likely, but certainly is not always the case, and also icy ground could have slowed bruising to the torso, or lividity disguising some of the bruises. 9. We do know JO had a cracked skull, damage to his right arm and leg, TBS (traumatic brain injury) causing his eyes to swell and bruise, internal damage to his abdominal area (haemorrhaging of his stomach and pancreas as per Dr. Stonebridge and Dr. Bello). 10. The defense experts also admitted they had not seen actual evidence including KR’s SUV, which has a rear spoiler (sticking out above the window) of which appears was also not considered, and only saw photographs, and had not been provided with other related information/material/evidence. And thus not considered as part of their reports (opinion/theory), but should have been. 11. All things MUST be considered and an opinion/theory cannot be based on partial information, etc, and a third of the evidence, etc, is not sufficient to give a 100% accurate account. 12. The FBI hired and paid these experts, decided what to give them, the experts agreed they had enough information to reach a conclusion (which as above is incorrect), and whilst hired experts are paid to create reasonable doubt usually, this expert or any others, should not just be believed because the FBI hired them (including Greene got his opinion (theory) totally wrong and admitted it). 13. The circumstances of this incident are quite unique and a “one off”, including an SUV at 76in high and weighing 5,000lbs reversing in to an intoxicated adult male at 24 mph, not to say not ever incident can be always be explained scientifically. 14. The belief that KR hit JO with her SUV, is absolutely within the realm of what is possible.

[@user-ji5gz5fu3g]

@@Stuckinthemiddle8214 The "physics" allegedly ruling out that JO was hit by KR's SUV: 1. The FBI external expert (ARCCA - litigation consultants) who was hired by the FBI (not an employee), used only high school level math (in a murder case) and only tested two or three possible scenarios, of which proved and disproved nothing, and was nonsense. A person that has taken college engineering physics and differential equations would even know this. 2. Real physics have angles for every potential source of force, dampeners for soft surfaces that could absorb impact, distribution of force across lateral expanses, and many other variables. 3. The expert did not consider the angle at which JO was struck which would play a great role in what conclusion they come up with, but only wanted to address head on collisions. And only tested JO’s head injury and how go break the taillight and did not look at any measurements (where things were found, etc). 4. Further, whilst the expert relied upon a motor vehicle accident and the test was on a static solid crash dummy, this was inaccurate. 5. When you are intoxicated the body and muscles are relaxed, also senses are affected. If you are sober you are firmer on your feet and more tense. 6. None of the experts tested the scenario that JO may have made a defensive move before he was hit and there are a million different ways he could have been hit (eg. crouching down, slipped and fell, before being hit). Nor did they consider that being intoxicated he would fall much easier and have less severe injuries, than if he was sober. 7. Also, was it a clip at speed and he attempted to spin out of the way and just put his arm out (with glass in hand) for protection, and did JO crawl/stumble or get dragged at all? 8. The ME did not attend to x-rays therefore it is unknown whether JO had any broken bones which are often likely, but certainly is not always the case, and also icy ground could have slowed bruising to the torso, or lividity disguising some of the bruises. 9. We do know JO had a cracked skull, damage to his right arm and leg, TBS (traumatic brain injury) causing his eyes to swell and bruise, internal damage to his abdominal area (haemorrhaging of his stomach and pancreas as per Dr. Stonebridge and Dr. Bello). 10. The defense experts also admitted they had not seen actual evidence including KR’s SUV, which has a rear spoiler (sticking out above the window) of which appears was also not considered, and only saw photographs, and had not been provided with other related information/material/evidence. And thus not considered as part of their reports (opinion/theory), but should have been. 11. All things MUST be considered and an opinion/theory cannot be based on partial information, etc, and a third of the evidence, etc, is not sufficient to give a 100% accurate account. 12. The FBI hired and paid these experts, decided what to give them, the experts agreed they had enough information to reach a conclusion (which as above is incorrect), and whilst hired experts are paid to create reasonable doubt usually, this expert or any others, should not just be believed because the FBI hired them (including Greene got his opinion (theory) totally wrong and admitted it). 13. The circumstances of this incident are quite unique and a “one off”, including an SUV at 76in high and weighing 5,000lbs reversing in to an intoxicated adult male at 24 mph, not to say not ever incident can be always be explained scientifically. 14. The belief that KR hit JO with her SUV, is absolutely within the realm of what is possible.

[@Stuckinthemiddle8214]

@@user-ji5gz5fu3gyou are welcome! I totally get what you say and as a newcomer to the facts prior to the trial, I was open to her potential guilt and the case against her and have vacillated before coming to my opinion. She’s no doubt, guilty of DUI and I certainly get the negligent manslaughter charge (although I don’t believe the burden of the CW was met because of reasonable doubt). As for the “I hit him(?) being an admission, a question, or the utterings of a someone in the midst of hysteria complicated by her MS (which affects the brain and emotions)--I feel like the memories of the first responders were contaminated by discussing the case on an ongoing basis-- nothing nefarious on their parts-- just the reality of memories being imperfect , faulty and malleable. The contemporaneous (earliest) records show that not one of the first responders or witnesses reported anything other than “I hit him” being a question she asked in a panic. What would have been so hard about recording all of these initial interviews-- and formally interviewing everyone immediately after? What about taking photos of the tail light at the earliest opportunity? Securing the scene? Taken holistically as you suggest, these failures and facts combined with the ARCA report and a prejudiced and rogue investigator hell-bent on railroading an individual, the bizarre behaviors of BH and BA and the “phonegate” are enough to dismiss the charges against her. While the guilt of anyone else was never established , it adds to the reasonable doubt that something more was going on there. My biggest concern with our justice system is the risk of imprisoning an a potentially innocent person and these types of investigations based on confirmation bias and investigative failures are what lead to false convictions. So even though I understand the things the make her appear potentially guilty, it’s the “beyond a reasonable doubt” burden that I stand behind and that was not met in my mind.

[@carolstevens1722]

I could never have been on that jury. Since I first saw her, I didn’t like her. My dislike is visceral. Not sure why.

[@mollykillarney2419]

Healthy that you're able to admit it. ♡︎

[@GRoos-b4z]

Maybe she resembles a woman your bf/husband had an affair with. You may have suppressed the memory.

[@bobwebb1580]

She is not guilty. Saw a show from a criminal investigator showing how John was hit over the head with a tire iron. Then placed in the snow. The Albert family covered the crime up and sold the house among other things.

[@sandrah0330]

Oh no, not another ridiculous theory. When will it stop? She admitted hitting him.

[@claudiafranco4888]

It’s ridiculous how people believe everything that comes out from the defense team! 🤓 People are so easily deceived!

[@adamyounger9708]

JUDGE BEV IS AN ACCOMPLICE !,.....................

[@MrScubajsb]

I'm not saying she's guilty, but there's no way they can prove she's guilty beyond A reasonable doubt. This is a very easy, not guilty verdict. There's just way too much going on here and they do not have any real evidence that she did this. This trial is insane

[@KathleenHelms-nq1vk]

I am so happy that the FBI is investigating. This trial was a circus. KEYSTONE COPS.

[@JayeEllis]

Lally didn't tell us what happened.

[@raydunn8262]

Thank you. 1. Convicting Karen of 2nd degree wouldn't serve justice to John's family, either. 2. If the jury could have considered lesser charges or Karen was offered a reasonable plea deal, justice might have been served. 3. I think it's a win for Karen. She is guilty of something, nothing sinister.