I Fixed The Langstroth Hive (For The Bees AND The Keeper!)

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Vino Farm

Vino Farm

Күн бұрын

I went through the Ol' Langstroth Beehive with a fine-toothed comb and fixed everything I always hated about it. I decided to think way outside the box and this is what I came up with. Commercial beekeepers will hate it. Old school beekeepers will hate it. Haters will hate it... But I love it and I think my bees will, too. I have had beehive improvement ideas swirling around my head for years and I finally had the chance to implement them after losing my bees last winter. I built 6 of these hives and they are all currently filled with bees! Follow along as we all see what happens this summer when things start to heat up!
00:00 - Intro
00:52 - Langstroth Hives are Not Right For Our Climate
02:03 - Langstroth Hives are a HUGE Pain in the Back
04:01 - Problems with MULTIPLE BROOD BOXES
05:46 - Bees are Constrained by Langstroth Frames
08:19 - My EXTRA DEEP Frame Design
10:40 - My New Hive - Intro
11:27 - LOOK INSIDE - How It's Built
13:34 - ALL YOUR BEES WILL DIE with that INSULATION!!!
15:15 - IT'S ALL ABOUT THE BROOD BOX
16:29 - How The DEEP FRAMES Work
21:16 - HIGH-TECH Inner Cover
24:41 - The VENT / FEED / WICK Box
27:36 - OUTRO
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@vinofarm
@vinofarm 3 жыл бұрын
Hi everyone, It's been almost a day and I wanted to respond to some repeated comments and acknowledge a MISTAKE! 1. ERROR: I realize the drawing of the frame with the brood was basically upside down. It was a long day of shooting this on very little sleep and with the looming arrival of my bees the next morning, I was more focused on my overall point and wrapping the shoot than what I was drawing on the board. The honey is usually OVER the brood, not under it. I feel like an idiot. However, the point I was trying to make is the same: The confined space of the Langstroth frames affects how the queen lays her eggs. The detail was wrong, but the main point still stands. 2. I have no desire or intention to "patent" or sell anything in this video and I am not claiming this is any kind of new invention. It's a hack of the Langstroth hive. Like the title says. I made and posted the video to share my ideas in hopes they will inspire others to take them, make something better and then share THOSE ideas. If I post something on the internet, it is meant to be open source. That's the point. Please build one of these and make a video about it! Let's make beekeeping better for beekeepers AND bees. 3. This is not a Layens hive or a National hive or a Dadant hive or any other number of obscure beehive designs mentioned below that I can't even find after googling. It is simply an improved Langstroth hive. It is made using ACTUAL Langstroth boxes. Just like the title says. I fixed all the things that bothered me about the Langstroth hive. It is still a Langstroth hive. 4. This video is not meant to be a solution for why my bees died last winter. This video is a solution to my sore back. I am also attempting to give the bees a more comfortable home for them to live and work. I know I still need to KEEP THE BEES. I know why my bees died last winter and my mite control plans and bee management plans are an entirely different video. One thing at a time. 5. Horizontal and Layens hives are not suited for our climate. I've seen them. I have heard of Dr. Leo. I get it. People love their horizontally oriented hives. That's GREAT! However, I will only ever keep bees in a vertical orientation. Every climate and region in the world is different. I do not expect people in Missouri to use Vivaldi boards or burlap in their hives. This hive I built is the result of me solving problems I've experienced in my backyard over the past 5 years of watching bee behavior. Horizontal hives are not a solution to the problems I have faced. And that's OK! 6. RE: Honey Harvest... It seems people are skipping around and not watching the video before asking questions. THIS BOX IS THE BROOD BOX. Honey will not be harvested from these frames, however, the box will hold regular Langstroth supers during the flows! It is super-able. Watch... 15:18 As always, Thanks for watching! Jim
@dougstucki8253
@dougstucki8253 3 жыл бұрын
Great points. A cool benefit to your design (versus an entirely different hive) is that you get to use almost all of your original equipment. The only real change is the size of the frames in the single brood box, everything else is just an addition or slight modification. Can't wait to see it in action!
@3naap
@3naap 3 жыл бұрын
To hell with the naysayers. If it works for you in your area then more power too you.
@elariel01
@elariel01 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating! I'm in Scotland with similar winter/summer temperature issues and your hive hacks/ bee barn look incredible. Could I ask you to do a wee vid either here or on your Insta of how you would check the bottom board without moving the new brood box? And is your plan (once the new hives are established) for honey collection to pop a queen excluder on top of the brood box with a langstroth super atop? Thank you!
@MrGrintar
@MrGrintar 3 жыл бұрын
Only suggestion i would recommend is switch the lid from black to white in the summer, and keep the black for the winter. The white lid will reflect heat to help keep it cool while the black will be noticeably warm to the touch in the summer. up to you. hope this season goes great.
@CyberStrike
@CyberStrike 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a software engineer, not a lawyer, I would not patent this but I would put an open source license on the Langstroth-Vino Bee Barn. Get credit for the design but at the same time maintaining any control you would like. Such as allowing anyone to modify and change it as long they also have a similar license, prevent it from being sold commercially or must attribute you as the original designer. You an find that rabbit hole at choosealicense.com/
@somegladmourning443
@somegladmourning443 3 жыл бұрын
I just got the biggest smile at the reveal of the bee barn. So cool. You took your tremendous loss and instead of throwing your hands up in defeat or just settling for doing things over the same way, turned it into innovation. You are an inspiration! I look forward to many videos about how this new design works for you and your bees!
@moodyroad
@moodyroad 3 жыл бұрын
This solves many problems I have seen as well as problems I haven't run into Take credit and name after your Dad Fan
@houstonbeermother
@houstonbeermother 3 жыл бұрын
💯
@andygroome9941
@andygroome9941 3 жыл бұрын
I second the big 😃
@karenbarletta8573
@karenbarletta8573 3 жыл бұрын
No, not directly. But, indirectly, eliminating as much of the struggle with elements and space design, eliminates stress. They mite cope better, with the energy to apply to surviving. In life sometimes timing can be everything. Varroa is one of those things.
@AmandaTroutman
@AmandaTroutman 3 жыл бұрын
I've been gushing about this video. I don't keep bees but I'm so heckin impressed with your ingenuity, dedication, drive, and compassion for your bees. I'm so invested in the success of your beeyard because from day one you've been so willing to let us go on this journey with you - good or bad. I'm so freaking excited for this year on Vino farms.
@_Pro.Bot_
@_Pro.Bot_ 2 жыл бұрын
Dude same, I don't keep bees either but the idea of observation and optimization of the equipment alone is impressive. Can't wait to go watch your other videos to find out how it came along
@_Pro.Bot_
@_Pro.Bot_ 2 жыл бұрын
@counselthyself interesting. I'll have to check it out. Not a bee keeper but was interested in the "how it works " idea. Thanks
@birddawg1568
@birddawg1568 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely exciting to see this. I can't wait to see you install the packages and do an inspection. Finally something new in the bee world. Good luck to you & your bees!!
@Vektorix28205
@Vektorix28205 3 жыл бұрын
All during this I kept thinking "Jim's reinventing the hole-in-the-tree that wild bees evolved to nest in". So when I saw his "It's like a tree!" caption midway through, I knew that's where he was headed. Big believer in sticking as close as possible to naturally-evolved conditions for any animal - I look forward to seeing how this works this summer and what (if any) modifications you make to it in future years with experience!
@vinofarm
@vinofarm 3 жыл бұрын
You got it! Everyone always tells me, "Trees don't have Vivaldi boards" "Trees don't have coroplast." "Trees don't have burlap" Well, my response is, "What bee colony is going to choose to live in a tree with 3/4" thick pine walls?" I'm trying to give the bees what they want.
@naxgulengames9863
@naxgulengames9863 3 жыл бұрын
@@vinofarm This makes me wonder if you could take a dead tree of large log and turn it into a workable hive.
@wendyme4835
@wendyme4835 3 жыл бұрын
@@vinofarm bees will colonise such a huge variety of spaces, not just tree hollows, so who can really predict exactly what they want? I’ve seen them build from the underside of a branch, the nest completely exposed. I’ve seen videos of people cutting them out of tyres, or fuel tanks, or cupboards, or compost bins. None of these have those massively thick insulating walls that you’re associating with the romantic view of a wild bee hive. And bees in tree hollows can still die. It’s obvious that you get immense enjoyment from doing a job well, so it was likely a massive blow for you to lose so many hives all at once. While I can see the benefits of your ideas, and I’m interested to see how they work for you, I wonder if the time & expense put into each hive is feasible when scaled up & compared over time. I guess we’ll see. Whatever the outcome, the journey has always been interesting to watch. Thanks for sharing.
@alx252
@alx252 3 жыл бұрын
But do you believe, that humans have to get back into their caves, because they lived healthier there? But as long as nobody can really ask the bees, we will never know...
@vinofarm
@vinofarm 3 жыл бұрын
@@naxgulengames9863 My friend Mike did just that! Look up @knottycoppertop on Instagram.
@beehivewithaview9760
@beehivewithaview9760 3 жыл бұрын
Backyard beekeepers don't have to do things like commercial beeks. If you and your bees are happy more power to you.
@weswalker
@weswalker 3 жыл бұрын
I think there was a little sadness for both this year.
@ronaldkropilak239
@ronaldkropilak239 3 жыл бұрын
Pa
@rebornz1988
@rebornz1988 3 жыл бұрын
Always exciting to see new stuff being tried out since I started watching from season 2. This channel feels like a discovery channel to understand more about bees.
@heathersfeatherfarm3245
@heathersfeatherfarm3245 3 жыл бұрын
I LOVE this. I can't wait to watch how this goes. I love the name the "bee barn" nearly cried with your losses this winter.. :( ..love your family and farm! Been watching for years! Let's do this!!!
@dan.vitale
@dan.vitale 3 жыл бұрын
You need to patent this Jim. Amazing.
@alx252
@alx252 3 жыл бұрын
It's already done. It's called Dadant hive. It's what brother Adam did since 1950. :) And you can get it in styrofoam off the shelf...
@Lombricompostagefacile
@Lombricompostagefacile 3 жыл бұрын
@@alx252 not sure that Dadant hives are what Jim has just created.
@frederikandreasen5211
@frederikandreasen5211 3 жыл бұрын
I think it’s more like layens hives.
@Killtrobal
@Killtrobal 3 жыл бұрын
long live piracy
@mmk421
@mmk421 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly the same beehives been used in eastern Europe for centuries in climates colder than New England. (Without your summer addition)
@calliknudsen
@calliknudsen 3 жыл бұрын
Did anyone else laugh out loud when ibuprofen started getting counted?
@sala_evans
@sala_evans 3 жыл бұрын
I literally loled
@notapplicable531
@notapplicable531 3 жыл бұрын
My doctor has advised me not to use ibuprofen as one side affect of using it would definitely be negative for me health wise. I won't say how. I started cringing when the count started to get high, although I saw the humour in that a large amount of pain killer being needed likely for headaches and back aches. After all, when things get so bad or absurb, laughing is the only thing to do.
@mattsara2802
@mattsara2802 3 жыл бұрын
LOL yes I did too. hahaha
@jmom5735
@jmom5735 3 жыл бұрын
YES! Clever man.❤️🐝🐝
@ryansmith9711
@ryansmith9711 3 жыл бұрын
My head hurt too much to laugh... could've used some ibuprofen. :)
@thekirdistheword
@thekirdistheword 3 жыл бұрын
I’m so excited to see this in action. I stumbled on your channel probably a year and a half after you started beekeeping and binged everything available! Sometimes it’s torture to have to wait and see what happens next, but it’s so fun to go along with you too! Anyway, thanks for introducing me to the wonders of beekeeping!
@suthrnmd
@suthrnmd 3 жыл бұрын
I love the way your mind works Jim! Creating and learning and continuing to share your ideas and collaborate with all of us who just want to help the bees live. I appreciate your drive and your willingness to share. I'm excited to hear what the bees have to say about it all. 🐝❤️
@hymnodyhands
@hymnodyhands 3 жыл бұрын
The Vino Farm Bee Barn... You may be on to something!
@mbgal7758
@mbgal7758 3 жыл бұрын
This seems like a great idea. I’ve seen many videos of cutouts in houses and even open air colonies (in much warmer places of course 😆)and when bees have lots of space you’re absolutely correct, they make a circular brood pattern surrounded by pollen, surrounded by honey with some drone comb along the bottom. I think this will be much less disruptive to the bees, especially in your cold climate you won’t be breaking their propolis seals like you would in the standard configuration. I’m excited to see how this goes. I think it’s so nice you were able to turn your losses into something amazing.
@EtainMcCloud
@EtainMcCloud 3 жыл бұрын
+
@rstlr01
@rstlr01 3 жыл бұрын
The only issue I have with this design for winter is the fact that it still vents all the bees drinking water out the top of the hive. I really wish he would design one that the roof was as well insulated as the sides. If condensation it’s happening on the side walls the bees drink it and use it for breaking down sugar bricks/thin honey. Insulation is better than ventilation and that burlap is not gonna offer even a quarter of the Insulation that the sides are. They also have been studies showing that higher CO2 levels during winter may have an adverse effect on the mites which can’t happen if you’re venting everything out the top.
@mbgal7758
@mbgal7758 3 жыл бұрын
@@rstlr01 it still has the thick top cover plus a standard insulated lid plus that other lid on top of that. So it’s at least as well insulated on top as a regular bee hive. You have to have some way for condensation to escape or else it will rain on the bees. If doesn’t just happen on the sides.
@rstlr01
@rstlr01 3 жыл бұрын
@@mbgal7758 it’s still doesn’t fix his previous issues all that R-value on the sides does nothing if you’re letting all the heat straight out the roof.
@mbgal7758
@mbgal7758 3 жыл бұрын
@@rstlr01 his bees most likely died of varroa. Bees survive in trees with much less protection not to mention bee hives. I think there’s nothing to be gained by being negative. You don’t know how it will go anymore than I do but I think it’s an improvement over a standard langstroth or layens hive even.
@bradkeskey
@bradkeskey 3 жыл бұрын
Can’t say how much I dig your design. It truly is everything that is wrong with a Langstroth and you have addressed them perfectly. I wish I could’ve dropped my packages into one of those last week! Looking forward to your updates!
@mikestewart5564
@mikestewart5564 3 жыл бұрын
A good job Jim I’m impressed, and new but you have my attention I have caught 2 swarms this spring and trapped one in a swarm trap I made for some reason one left but I still have 2 I’m thinking strongly about building a hive like yours here in Missouri we don’t get as cold as you but it gets really hot and in my way of thinking your hive might save a lot of bees.
@kencollins3565
@kencollins3565 3 жыл бұрын
Something I have been considering, and thought you may also consider too. In Georgia, my bees can fill 2 deeps. Because your Bee barn mod reduces the weather influences of your winters, may not matter, the Pollen/Nectar flows will be about the same, but your clusters may be larger than you considered-just speculating. Since I have cases of Deep frames. and some old ones too that are drawn, I am thinking about cutting off the top bar and bottom bar centers of frames, join them as a double deep, Leaving just an inch of the top or bottom bars to make the connection and hold the foundations to make a single double deep frame. I'm 73 years old and my back is killing me now and I hated the thought of quitting beekeeping. I thought your bees would now fill double deeps now that you have reduced the weather influences and their home is permanent. Thank you for having a great mind and spirit and being not afraid to think outside the box.
@robbyanielsen
@robbyanielsen 3 жыл бұрын
I think your followers really appreciate the production value you put into your videos. I've watched your series from beginning to end several times and it's been enjoyable to watch your videography, narrating, editing, and story telling abilities progress. The details that go into sound and layout make your videos stand out compared to other bee channels. You may hear about channels that get their views from ideas and informational content and others who follow because of the relationship and journey. I enjoy your channel as a balance of both.
@vinofarm
@vinofarm 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Codeexcited
@Codeexcited 3 жыл бұрын
Same!
@andygroome9941
@andygroome9941 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. I also have followed since the flow-hive unboxing. I have watched many others... but YOUR production value has kept me hooked for all these years.
@dougstucki8253
@dougstucki8253 3 жыл бұрын
I'm quite certain that had you been born during the stone age, you would have been the one who invented the wheel. I love that you are always challenging the accepted norms and thinking of a better way. Brilliant!
@notapplicable531
@notapplicable531 3 жыл бұрын
Likely would have been the guy who discovered the concept of agriculture as well.
@LegendHold1
@LegendHold1 3 жыл бұрын
You assessment of how the bees would like to build their hive I think is dead on! Love your innovation.
@weirjwerijrweurhuewhr588
@weirjwerijrweurhuewhr588 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think bees naturally want to store honey under the brood at all. Look at how bees generally tend to organize their colonies when given free choice. Look at top bars, look at hives hanging freely from trees. Always honey on top / sides of the brood nest.
@williamditta3956
@williamditta3956 3 жыл бұрын
Outstanding and thoughtful insight. Innovation is something the bee community lacks. Thanks for your time and effort.
@lukaslavergne6582
@lukaslavergne6582 3 жыл бұрын
I admire how you've gathered experiences, found problems, and fixed them. Good job on making a bad situation into a truly impressive restart. I love your channel, keep up the inspiring work.
@abigailjacob4043
@abigailjacob4043 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, I can't wait to see what the bees do in there! Definitely show us those deep frames when they get them filled up with comb and brood.
@kevincount
@kevincount 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely brilliant. I love how you problem solved an issue your have been faced with since the start. I'm looking forward to see how this all plays out in practice. Again, well done Jim. Thank you for sharing the journey.
@pierreclement5910
@pierreclement5910 3 жыл бұрын
Love it .thank you for sharing .And I know you will not hide anything good or bad happening,thank you for your integrity
@caderector3456
@caderector3456 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like Langstroth and Layens had a baby and named it "bee barn". Very interesting concept Jim. Looking forward to the updates as they get settled in. Good luck
@RedPandaLesbian
@RedPandaLesbian 3 жыл бұрын
It makes my heart happy to see you excited again! Here's to a successful rebuilding year 💜
@Regularguy1775
@Regularguy1775 3 жыл бұрын
Well thought out, explained and executed. I'll be looking forward to your follow-up videos. Best wishes.
@MarshallKrueger
@MarshallKrueger 3 жыл бұрын
Love seeing your ingenuity in reusing materials you already have and lessons you have already learned. Such a creative solution.
@wendygrant2735
@wendygrant2735 3 жыл бұрын
I'm really happy the old Jim is back. It feels like you just started, full of enthousiasm. I'm excited. The only thing I can come up with is moisture. You created a thermos. But it's too early to say. I'm really looking forward your new adventures. Thumbs up!
@vinofarm
@vinofarm 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, that's the point of the vent/wick box. I'm monitoring humidity and temps in all hives now.
@sandydee8003
@sandydee8003 3 жыл бұрын
Your “Bee Barn” is an engineering Marvel! I can’t wait to see the bees workin in their new Home. Congratulations on building a better beehive. This will help our precious bees.
@briannad4513
@briannad4513 3 жыл бұрын
My question is how much did this cost him! But i like this thought process.
@sandydee8003
@sandydee8003 3 жыл бұрын
@@briannad4513 I don’t know, but it looks deluxe. I think someone else asked him that too.
@dennislintz1
@dennislintz1 3 жыл бұрын
If you really want to see an engineering Marvel look at David Strout Double Deep Dove Tail Frames for a Long Hive, which is Made out of 2X's for thicker hives. Better for northern climates.
@karenbarletta8573
@karenbarletta8573 3 жыл бұрын
It's not that much in materials. It's the effort getting it right.
@donincognito189
@donincognito189 3 жыл бұрын
Outstanding! Looking forward to seeing how this works out for you this year.
@tomasjosefvela1
@tomasjosefvela1 3 жыл бұрын
Love the way your brain works man!!! We're so excited to see whats to come this year, thank you so much for bringing us along.
@mekan0001
@mekan0001 3 жыл бұрын
I really hope this video gets some traction. This really is a marvel and deserves recognition.
@princessagatha9991
@princessagatha9991 3 жыл бұрын
I’m so stinking excited for this video. 2021. Going to be a great year for your new bees. I can feel it. Sincerely, An Armchair Beekeeper.
@broadbrookapiary9963
@broadbrookapiary9963 3 жыл бұрын
Find a local beekeeper and do an inspection with them..they will be happy to have company and you will learn enough to write a book 🤘
@princessagatha9991
@princessagatha9991 3 жыл бұрын
@@broadbrookapiary9963 I had a neighbour with a hive but it died. I’ve offered to be her second if she gets another one. There are hives to visit locally, but I should put the word out in my town to see if anyone wants a backup keeper.
@joliearmas3386
@joliearmas3386 3 жыл бұрын
That's well thought out. I'm looking forward to seeing how well the new Bee Barn hive works out for you. Congratulations!
@landru6053
@landru6053 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome!!! Been watching since day one, excited to see how the new boxes work.Best of luck!!
@scifiaddict
@scifiaddict 3 жыл бұрын
I just hope the top bar is sturdy enough to hold the extra weight
@vinofarm
@vinofarm 3 жыл бұрын
Notice the 1/8" birch plywood gussets in each corner? It's plenty strong!
@danielhiller9165
@danielhiller9165 3 жыл бұрын
I experimented with 2 deep sheets of foundation turned on their sides with no top bar problems. a deep sheet is 2x longer than it is wide so it makes a square. had the end ones in a 10 frame box full of honey.
@dorihallberg7444
@dorihallberg7444 3 жыл бұрын
@@danielhiller9165 That's a great idea. Did you try this last year, or is this the first season?
@nkapiariesjeffbeezos796
@nkapiariesjeffbeezos796 3 жыл бұрын
@@danielhiller9165 the point on the comb normally points downward, sounds like your bees adjusted because being sideways orientation changes
@michaelpisapia
@michaelpisapia 3 жыл бұрын
AMAZING work Jim- you addressed all the vulnerabilities - your improved design is GENIUS!! I LOVE the 'no box lifting' way of doing things. I am so excited to see this in action. Thank you for the continued great content and for taking us along on your journey!! This is going to be a 'MUST WATCH' series of videos ahead..!
@maddavo565
@maddavo565 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting! I was very sorry to see your devastating post-winter video a couple of months ago and am pleased to see you've been hard at it trying to work out how to get your bees to survive winter. Hope it works!!
@patriciavanasperen8987
@patriciavanasperen8987 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! Genius redesign! It’s a great extension of the bees natural hive environment! Laughs at the ibuprofen count! These changes are thoughtful and considered and a result of all your real experiences in the colder environment so I wish you much success! Will be watching for all your updates!
@Rayxster
@Rayxster 3 жыл бұрын
Those aren't Bee-Barns.. they're Bee-FORTRESSES!
@SpencerBrennan001
@SpencerBrennan001 3 жыл бұрын
All Bee Base are belong to Jim
@MegaSagacity
@MegaSagacity 3 жыл бұрын
You could give the bees water with a mote lol
@johnm1570
@johnm1570 3 жыл бұрын
All looking very French castle Holy Grail-ish!
@MsrKSDisque
@MsrKSDisque 3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to watch the videos this summer! I love how you are creatively solving problems. And it is gorgeous as well.
@scott2384
@scott2384 3 жыл бұрын
Great Video! I'm always having fun trying to come up with what I feel are improvements for my bees. It's obvious a lot of thought has gone into this project and want to thank you for sharing. Best of luck to you and the girls this year.
@leemurphy233
@leemurphy233 3 жыл бұрын
I can't wait to see how it works out. Wishing you the best. Love it!
@Wosiewose
@Wosiewose 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing, Jim!! Can't wait to see how you (and the bees) like it! I especially like the way you provided a place for the bees to make drone comb and/or queen cells.
@ZelmaBees
@ZelmaBees 3 жыл бұрын
When life give you lemons...make lemonade! Love your creativity and wishing you a successful experience. Looking forward to seeing the progress.
@candeevaniderstine8064
@candeevaniderstine8064 3 жыл бұрын
That is so thoughtful, creative and inspiring. I can't wait to see how the girls like it. Please keep posting the live results.
@deniserydalch1962
@deniserydalch1962 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your idea Jim and for all the time you take to make these videos. I’ve learned a lot from watching your successes and your mistakes, thank you for being so honest and open. I can’t wait to see how your bees like their bee barn! Please keep us updated, good luck! :)
@Diypics
@Diypics 3 жыл бұрын
I SO agree with the insulation idea. I don't tell people that I keep the insulation on year round cuz the answer is always "they've been doing this for thousands of years" to which I want to answer "inside treetrunks that are highly insulated." Good for you, Jim!
@vinofarm
@vinofarm 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, it hit me recently that year round insulation is probably the way to go.
@kretz130
@kretz130 3 жыл бұрын
Wild beehives in tree trunks have much larger/multiple entrances that the bees can modify as they see fit. And I have never seen a wild hive encompassed on all sides by 4 inches of solid unrotted wood. And they are oftentimes in the shade of the forest, not direct sunlight which is a big difference in temperature.
@allennearing5846
@allennearing5846 3 жыл бұрын
I am glad that I am not the only one! Everyone here looks at me with a puzzled look. I am a keeper in Phoenix, AZ so we have different problems, but one thing that many forget is that insulation works BOTH WAYS! The things yo do to keep a space warm is similar to what you do to keep a space cold. And the current "nominal" sizing/thickness of lumber in boxes is no where close to the insulative values bees find in tree trunks and old logs. I was about to embark on an insulated horizontal deep but might give this a try. Looking forward to plans!
@iamziano
@iamziano 3 жыл бұрын
Looks cool, Jim! But please, patent your design. And if you're ever gonna modify the name, consider incorporating the word "Vino" onto it. Grapes may have been unsuccessful in the farm, apple trees get problems every so often; but this creation may turn into a very profitable business one day. So name it good, and secure your rights for the hive design. So excited to see them filled with bees 🥰☺️
@fragsnotdrugs7429
@fragsnotdrugs7429 3 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍
@EtainMcCloud
@EtainMcCloud 3 жыл бұрын
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@vinofarm
@vinofarm 3 жыл бұрын
Not sure this is patentable. I'm not planning on making money on it. Consider it open source. If someone else makes money on it, at least people will know where it came from.
@briannad4513
@briannad4513 3 жыл бұрын
@@vinofarm i think it'd be great if someone used ur design but u still get credit for it AND a percentage of what they make off the product. Honestly i would do that but im not good at wood working. n people say im tooo nice.
@julieenslow5915
@julieenslow5915 3 жыл бұрын
@@vinofarm Essentially, this video does give you some copyright protection. But it is flimsy protection. Making it an open source is generous to a fault. You can copyright or patent it and still let people use it for free. Nothing wrong with covering your options. Talk to an attorney Jim. Just a thought.
@harrygrimley4352
@harrygrimley4352 Жыл бұрын
Awesome details. Seems like you've thought of everything. Great job. Thanks for sharing this with us.
@nieldcreek2098
@nieldcreek2098 3 жыл бұрын
It seems very well thought out! Wish you lots of luck and look forward to updates at the seasons progress.
@CastleHives
@CastleHives 3 жыл бұрын
I'll be following along to see how this does. I'm trying a Horizontal for a first time this season. Love the design you came up with. . Cracked me up with the Ibuprofen reference. .
@bryanrulz3904
@bryanrulz3904 3 жыл бұрын
Jim, the modifications look very cool. I love that you are re-purposing existing equipment and I think that you are on to something. I can't wait to see how your summer unfolds! Thank you for continuing to make content and keeping such a positive attitude. You are a breath of fresh air in a world full of negativity my man!
@EtainMcCloud
@EtainMcCloud 3 жыл бұрын
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@rockridgebees1417
@rockridgebees1417 3 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy watching your videos and good luck with your bees this year! I also agree with the idea of giving the bees/queen more brood space that doesn't get interrupted when one does inspections, etc. For a trial this year, I designed a horizontal Langstroth hive that has a "double-deep" 8 frame brood section but transitions to single deeps along the remainder of the hive. I moved a swarm into it a couple of months ago and it's working great so far! I love seeing beekeepers devising well-engineered solutions to make hives better for the bees and beekeeping easier.
@brabhamfreaman166
@brabhamfreaman166 3 жыл бұрын
Love the design and appreciate the significant effort into thought process, rationale. Wishing you happy beekeeping. Always loved your honesty and openness. Bravo!
@frostfire827
@frostfire827 3 жыл бұрын
I live all my bee dreams through you. love your design, looking forward to your updates on this box!
@kmjsuperfly1
@kmjsuperfly1 3 жыл бұрын
Genius. I can tell you've put a lot of thought into this. Can't wait to see how it works out this season.
@galtobell1
@galtobell1 3 жыл бұрын
Conceptually awesome! I’ll stay tuned to see how it all plays out, hopefully very well. Wishing you the best!🐝🐝
@artsantore8791
@artsantore8791 3 жыл бұрын
Wow I Can't wait to see how the bee's take to this new setup. Great work and love all of you videos.
@Donovan_J19
@Donovan_J19 3 жыл бұрын
The bee community needs more great minds like you. This is an amazing invention that could revolutionize the bee world. Thank you!
@naxgulengames9863
@naxgulengames9863 3 жыл бұрын
It almost looks like the middle step of evolution to the Flow hive. Looks better than any basic hive but, works like an old fashioned one. This is the kind of hive you want when you want to show off that you have bees. lol
@Donovan_J19
@Donovan_J19 3 жыл бұрын
@@BellahWorks the apimaye hive has the boxes like the langstroth that Jim is trying to rid of. Plus it's mostly made of plastic and is unnatural
@alx252
@alx252 3 жыл бұрын
@@Donovan_J19 ... Yeah, the natural styrofoam in this give us a big improvement... Haha ..
@Donovan_J19
@Donovan_J19 3 жыл бұрын
@@alx252 that compared to the whole thing being plastic. And the bees aren't in contact with the styrofoam either
@Donovan_J19
@Donovan_J19 3 жыл бұрын
@@BellahWorks I'm not discrediting them I'm just showing their flaws
@100amps
@100amps 3 жыл бұрын
I'm stoked, Jim. I loves me a good design/ engineering effort. Can't wait to see if it lives up to your expectations. And extra kudos for the entertaining video editing.
@TheBeeVlog
@TheBeeVlog 3 жыл бұрын
I love everything about this and have been brainstorming similar ideas myself. I'll work on making one like this and trying it out. Thanks!
@tgmitch18
@tgmitch18 2 жыл бұрын
I’m excited to see how this works for you! I had a similar idea 2 years ago and built a horizontal Langstroth style brood chamber that holds 18 deep frames. Two eight frame supers can sit side by side on top. 2 inch foam board is used as insulation on all surfaces. All of my bees survived the winter this year, so I feel like I’m on to something, and having your entire brood chambers accessible without lifting any deeps is super convenient. I just wanted to say, nice job. It will be cool to see how the new system works out for you!
@cbbees1468
@cbbees1468 3 жыл бұрын
This is like the Humvee of beehives in that it can be configured to adapt to many different scenarios.
@caitlyngeorge5645
@caitlyngeorge5645 3 жыл бұрын
Humbee Hive! Should be the new name for his invention!!
@karenbarletta8573
@karenbarletta8573 3 жыл бұрын
Ooh! Hmmm!
@briangriebel2832
@briangriebel2832 3 жыл бұрын
GENIUS!!!!! Cant wait to see them in action.
@zebulonpike3147
@zebulonpike3147 Жыл бұрын
I’ve watched this three times and it’s brilliant. You’ve inspired me, sir. Thank you.
@k.winchester1962
@k.winchester1962 3 жыл бұрын
I love how you spent so much time researching how to make a better bee hive. And very impressed with your new design!!!
@mariebynon
@mariebynon 3 жыл бұрын
Just a watcher, not a beekeeper. But i've got to say this is seriously impressive. it's obvious you took the time to design this. I'm really excited to see how it works.
@grammybeth2685
@grammybeth2685 3 жыл бұрын
I love your ingenuity. I'll never be able to keep bees but love your channel. Thank you for keeping my days viable.
@uknowho711129
@uknowho711129 3 жыл бұрын
I am beyond excited to see how this works out. Please keep us updated!!
@bradgoliphant
@bradgoliphant 3 жыл бұрын
Again, Amazing job Vino. Congrats. I love that you are thinking outside the box, much like what I do. I support you.
@vinofarm
@vinofarm 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Brad.
@cesargrimm
@cesargrimm 3 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to see the follow up video’s! I hope you film putting the bees in it! I think its a very clever design. Greetings from Belgium
@lukebaker7389
@lukebaker7389 3 жыл бұрын
I LOVE this. I live in the Twin Cities and I'm a second year bee keeper. I lost my hive the first year and I just got two more packages for this year. This all makes so much sense for cold climates.
@gmflash88
@gmflash88 2 жыл бұрын
Aspiring beek here checking in from the St Croix Valley. Can anyone point me in the right direction for where I can get some hands on experience before I dive in? Thinking of starting in 2023
@IngerMaaike2
@IngerMaaike2 3 жыл бұрын
a very well thought out home for the bees, they will love it!
@tdice3
@tdice3 3 жыл бұрын
Love the Bee Barn!!! Looking forward to seeing it work. You’ve solved so many issues with beekeeping all in one nicely built box.
@goswami
@goswami 3 жыл бұрын
I love it! Always love these engineer solution type videos can't wait to see the bees poke holes into many of the concepts. Trial and error but that's what it's all about.
@arpeltier
@arpeltier 3 жыл бұрын
I can't wait to see how your new bees do in the new Bee Fortress!! Amazing work.
@thesciguylittle
@thesciguylittle 3 жыл бұрын
This is awesome, great work! I've kept 2 inch foam permanently on my double deeps for a few years now, once I thought about the insulation in a bee tree! (Lots of it, doesn't change with seasons) But I only tied mine on with cord! You've done a great job of designing and crafting a very good home for your bees. I hope it helps reduce the pressure from mites, as well, just by having happier bees!
@jenniledford1280
@jenniledford1280 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing insight! Looking forward to your next posts!
@LittleDergon
@LittleDergon 3 жыл бұрын
Really liking the changes you've made :) I hope those big frames aren't going to be too heavy when full of honey Also, I'm loving the shape- it's a strangely pleasing aesthetic shape and I can't wait to see your bee yard full of little bee barns ☺️❤️ 🐝
@vinofarm
@vinofarm 3 жыл бұрын
I will mostly be lifting them when they're full of brood, so much lighter. When they're full of honey (the fall/winter) I don't need to touch them.
@chuckdiesle
@chuckdiesle 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely right I was reading an article about bees and their temperature controll a study showed they put a hive on a lava field, hot (obviously not free flowing lol) and put some hives in a cooler climate and the temp inside the hives where the same!! Fascinating I say!!!
@wmo1234
@wmo1234 9 ай бұрын
The craftsmanship here is amazing. Very nice work!
@carterhowell1570
@carterhowell1570 3 жыл бұрын
This looks great! I’ll definitely be keeping up with how the design works for you. Good luck!!
@BugFarmerBees
@BugFarmerBees 3 жыл бұрын
Great innovation and quality build. I can't wait to see these in action. It is obvious you put a lot of thought in the design and were thinking like a bee when coming up with it. Now you just need to brand it and sell it so I don't have to build my own. I can just buy one from you. Great job sir!
@neospiderman2165
@neospiderman2165 3 жыл бұрын
From tragedy comes triumph This is soo cool I cant wait to see have it goes
@TheHoneystead
@TheHoneystead 3 жыл бұрын
I think you are on to something for sure!!! I would add one to my apiary as well!
@stationplaza4631
@stationplaza4631 3 жыл бұрын
I'm absolutely fascinated ! Very much looking forward to seeing how this project goes.
@bonniezeigler6318
@bonniezeigler6318 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta love thinking outside of the usual box. I look forward to seeing how these boxes progress and hope for a great bee year at the Vino Farm!
@kylew1385
@kylew1385 3 жыл бұрын
Quite the marvel Jim! One of the benefits of being a hobby beekeeper is having the freedom pamper our bees without worrying about profit. I would LOVE to see a video instructional on how you made those frames/spacers. This is something I would love to do myself, I don't need the insulation as I am in FL, but I love the idea of never having to split my brood boxes in half for inspection. I run double deeps year around, but I think a deep/medium would probably be the sweetspot.
@meisapieceapie
@meisapieceapie 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic work, thought and care put into your beautiful bee barns! I'm so inspired as a brand new bee keeper this year. I built the horizontal hive as a newbie for my first two packages and am really proud of them but I have so much to learn. Utah winters will definitely be a learning experience for me. I guess if they fail I'll give your design a try. Thank you for putting your experience out there for those of us learning along side you. Your videos are fantastic and very well thought out. I truly appreciate your enthusiasm and clear compassion for the bees as well as your viewers. Best of luck!
@richardmingo3194
@richardmingo3194 3 жыл бұрын
I love it! Can't wait to see how it turns out. Any cross comb in a super deep is going to be trouble. Follower boards were an excellent thought, will give you lots of room to work and adjust space.
@W3BKY_73
@W3BKY_73 3 жыл бұрын
Looks awesome! Love the creativity. We’ve been trying to figure ways to manage insulation year round without attaching the separate panels. We believe the insulation reduces temperature swings in the hive, and helps the bees regulate it more easily. We also love our slatted racks, and the way you’ve tunneled the entrance would work similarly to give the brood a little buffer. It’s much more like a natural hollow tree. One change we would make is a way to ‘splay’ the legs or a 90 metal tab on 2 opposing legs with a stake to fasten the hives to the ground. We thought our hive stands were plenty beefy, but one was blown forward on its face this Spring during a microburst. The boxes were ratcheted together to the stand, but the bottom board caused enough of an offset (another reason to eliminate it) to permit the boxes to slide just enough to gap them for the pouring rain. Hive survived, but the queen did not. Also, we ‘plug’ our vent holes during winter and only unplug that which is needed to keep burlap dry. We have a lot more wind than you and weren’t comfortable with so much thermal loss through the top. This winter, 2 was plenty. We leave ventilation on year round and unplug more for large hives when temps reach 90s. We changed emergency feeding from fondant or mountain camp on the frames to dry sugar in rapid round under a burlap pillow (we fill ours with cedar). That way we can update emergency sugar without opening the inner cover box in lower temps. This winter was so long and cold that we ran out of emergency stores in mid February and had many frustrated weeks waiting for even a small warmup. In addition, it makes a lot less mess in the hive for bees to have to clean up. We have fed syrup either mason jars in a frame on the inner cover but are slowly transitioning to rapid round because we can refill without exposing bees, and the jars and pails can leak (noticed mostly with cold night temps and hot sunny days), which anecdotally seemed to attract stronger hives to those which we were feeding.
@vinofarm
@vinofarm 3 жыл бұрын
Great tips. My hives weigh close to 100lbs including the stands, which they are strapped to. Add in bees and honey stores and I don't think wind will be an issue. They are much more stout than a regular hive on a stand. Ventilation is something I've been reading a LOT about. I have a lot of people sharing articles that are making me think twice about ANY ventilation over winter. My inner cover design is very adjustable and easy to close down if I do decide to close it up for winter. I have a few more months to decide what to do. I'm thinking I will leave it open with the burlap through October when they are reducing stores and syrup and there is a ton of excess moisture in the hive, but will probably shut it down for the 4 coldest months. Nov, Dec, Jan, Feb will probably just be super insulated with no upper openings. I'll re-open the upper entrance in March for cleansing flights. I am now monitoring humidity and temps in the hives,and it's been a real eye opening. I'll be getting into that this season. Thanks!
@benlangton3484
@benlangton3484 3 жыл бұрын
Ibuprofen count 😂😂😂 you must have been chugging them like smarties with over a dozen hives. (Please include the count in the future it really made my day)
@stevef
@stevef 2 жыл бұрын
Jim, this is absolutely amazing. I live in Marlborough, MA so everything you experience and said about beekeeping struggles and the challenges with this 150 year old tech are so true. So much of the beekeeping stuff is for warmer climates. Can not wait to see how the season turns out with this new concept.
@Not_all_as_it_seems
@Not_all_as_it_seems 3 жыл бұрын
Oh Em GEEE That is so awesome!! It does not get cold enough here to warrant such amazing insulation yet in a reduced scale, i see possibility. I am going to be watching your bees progress keenly this summer! Excited!
@BlanchardsBees
@BlanchardsBees 3 жыл бұрын
Hope it works out for you VINO. Will be interesting to see how it turns out.
@glennjansen8502
@glennjansen8502 3 жыл бұрын
This looks so awesome, I feel your idea, I have the impression all beekeepers keep holding on to old and proven tech, but never innovate anymore.. I'd love to see the progress and of this works.. I might just make them myself, only thing is.. I live in Belgium so I don't know if I need it as much as you do 😁 but like you say.. it doesn't make the inside warm, it keeps the cold and the heat out. Great idea!
@HusaCreature
@HusaCreature Жыл бұрын
Brilliant ideas and beautiful craftsmanship.
@janbroom
@janbroom 3 жыл бұрын
I love your videos and your friendship with your bees. Your Bee Barn is so inspired.... happy beekeeper, happy bees😊
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