Vintage Chainsaws Dropping and Chopping Tree + Vintage BS

[@ClintsHobbiesDIY]

The charisma of those old Homey's can't be denied. My first saw was a new XL-12 and it still cuts.

[@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156]

The old Homelites were tough and given decent maintenance, will last a very long time.

[@johnclarke6647]

Clint, I have an almost 60 year old XL12 that is still doing fine. A little heavy for me these day.

[@tonymayhew191]

I have one of those C7,C5ThreeC52,C51 in my collection. I love listening to your knowledge on the old saws! I have learned a couple of things from you and i owe a debt of gratitude to you old timer! 😉

[@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156]

Nice collection. Thanks for watching.

[@daryllund6634]

Great fun watching the old saws run.

[@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156]

Running vintage equipment and actually getting work done with them is what keeps us busy and happy !

[@tedmiller1745]

I love my C7.. Runs but a shelf queen. Fully restored! Great video!!

[@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156]

It is fun to get the ol hogs out and run them on occasion, but they spend most of their time being shelf queens too. Thanks for watching.

[@jeffreyrubish347]

That old Homelight sounds so "relaxed." It's saying, "I can do this forever."

[@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156]

Sounds lazy compared to new saws, but still gets the job done.

[@dwhallon21]

I would agree, it just keeps plugging away

[@williamdarico2369]

Funny to see you up on the ladder I thought you were smarter than that!😂

[@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156]

Since my pole saw won't reach that far, and I can't fly, I just had to use what I had to accomplish my project, and I survived unscathed too ! I call that a win.

[@TheNorvikWay]

Great video love all the old saws.

[@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156]

Thanks for the nice comment and for watching.

[@brianking1138]

Those are cool old saws. I have lots o Homelites but they are xl12 and newer. Hopefully I find some older ones for a decent price this year.

[@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156]

Keep looking, and they will show up !

[@MrJohnnaz]

Good video, I got quite the laugh when you said" big ole hogs".

[@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156]

It is amazing how big saws used to be. Big ole hogs is an accurate description !

[@johnclarke6647]

I had a sneaky feeling the crank seals in my 40 year old Stihl 024 may be leaking. Today was the first day that I have had it idling, so I decided to check it. As it idled it would occasionally increase in rpm and then drop back down, I knew it was not setup rich, which will indicate the same effects, so I got my can of break cleaner out. First, I sprayed all around the clutch and the rpm stayed the same. Then, I gave the flywheel side a shot of break cleaner and it died like a stone. This told me the flywheel side seal was leaking like a sieve and the PTO side seal was not. Iwill replace both, tomorrow, which should eliminate the problem. MyMS 260 seal seater works just as well on the 024.

[@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156]

Brake cleaner is great stuff for finding vacuum leaks !

[@johnclarke6647]

@@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 when I get the seal replaced, I will check the base gasket, intake boot and the back of the carb for leaks. I will also re-check the seals. I do all of this periodically on all of my saws. It picks up problems before they can develop into big problems. Would hate to smoke down a cylinder for a minor problem like a cracked boot, loose base gasket or bad seal. I really like to check behind the carb to make sure there is a good seal, there, especially if it utilizes a fiber gasket between the boot and the carb. I could use my mighty Vac to pressure test the case and cylinder, but I use it more to pressure test carbs, fuel lines, gas tanks than anything gelse. Break cleaner will catch pressure and vacuum leaks because if the saw is running at idle it will stop it in a heart beat.

[@timothybyrom5560]

I've got two 72's,and a 51.I love them. I usually get them out when I have a lot of noodling to do. There's reasons they've lasted all these years. One they're built like a tank. Two they're man killers to use.

[@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156]

You are spot on with your comment !

[@johnclarke6647]

They continued to make the vertical cylinder Zip in ‘64 because I had one, made in 1964. It was blue, but I repainted it green before I got rid of it.

[@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156]

Homelite used to carry obsolete models in their lineup at times. I have seen that situation in several models, selling the old models alongside the modern replacements saws.

[@jensenwilliam5434]

Thank s

[@liljoeii6091]

Thank you for the video

[@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156]

You are most welcome !

[@Indeewoods]

What a beast of a saw!

[@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156]

The big ol Homelite is fun to run and compare it to more modern saws that replaced it. Other than being quite heavy, it runs and cuts great. I enjoy having a diverse collection.

[@justinweaver8107]

Love em all. .

[@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156]

The old saws can still earn their keep !

[@justinweaver8107]

@@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 all mine do

[@johnclarke6647]

It weighs about what my ms 660 weighs, about 25#. My ms 440 and H372 aren’t far behind the 660. I think that C7 needs another quarter turn out on the H jet.

[@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156]

The C-7 is a heavyweight for sure, with a relatively low hp. It had been some time since I last ran the saw, and I had the main jet a bit richer, but it was blubbering and smoking a bit, so I set it to where it ran best for the video.

[@davidcharles3131]

Did they make a two man saw, 1/2 chain and 36? Inch bar?

[@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156]

I don't think Homelite ever made a two man saw. Some of the large displacement saws had 36 inch bars and used 1/2 inch or 9/16 inch chains. though.

[@benwinter2420]

The yellow saws Hotrod Keep neighbours On toes

[@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156]

My neighbors and I have a contest as who can make the most noise. They are constantly mowing with a really loud riding mower, and I am always running old and really loud chainsaws ! They are the winners, as they are always mowing.

[@thankswillie]

interesting,looked like you were haven fun

[@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156]

I always like running my vintage saws and get work done too !

[@johnclarke6647]

Any time you, as a manufacturer, start stressing quantity over quality and product testing and evaluation - you aren’t long for the world. Homelite, MAC and IHC all went the way of the do-do bird for just that reason.

[@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156]

You are spot on about the reason those companies failed.

[@Indeewoods]

Cool story about the XL-12. Extra light 12. Haha the Timber Mouse. I actual managed to get mine running great but was the hardest saw I’ve ever tuned. Made some mods to it. Cheap as ot gets though. Junk. Thought you’d call it the TimberLady😂😂

[@Indeewoods]

Timberkid lol

[@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156]

Well Professor of junk saws, I just couldn't bring myself to spend much time trying to improve the TIMBER MOUSE, as I can just grab any number of real saws in the same shed, and go out and do my work. I can't call the saw a TIMBER LADY, as it would be an insult to them. My fancy rodent name is better for the king of crappy saws !

[@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156]

Maybe if I had a McCulloch MAC CAT, I could sick it on the Mouse saw, and eliminate it ! HA HA !!! Maybe I should name it the TIMBER RODENT.

[@Indeewoods]

@@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 My comments were not a shot at you. It was just saying that. Yes these things are absolute junk…

[@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156]

I thought your suggestions were funny, no offense taken. Humor is good !

[@IowaPerformanceSaws]

Awesome video. What's your oldest running saw?

[@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156]

The oldest saws I have running right now are early 50's. Thanks for the nice comment and for watching.

[@johnclarke6647]

That Timbermouse couldn’t be that bad that you have to use it as a hand saw. If so, something is wrong with it. Send it to Leon - he can fix it, so can call it, at least, a TimberRat.

[@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156]

The only problem with the Timber Mouse is that it was made. It isn't worth wasting any time or money on it. I have received many comments about the Mouse saw, and they all had the exact problems as mine, which means that it is a bad design with many flaws.

[@johnclarke6647]

@@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 don’t know - never saw one. Even crappy saws,like the Poulan 42-18 will cut wood. For how long is the question. They are fitted with butter bars and chains and combination plastic bearings and seals. My neighbor that lives behind me has one and it is hard for me not to tell him that he owns a piece of junk. I may give him one of my Stihls one day.

[@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156]

Any chainsaw will cut wood, but as you say, for how long. My Poulan Wild Thing was used when I received it, and it had actually given the original owner a lot of use. The clutch teeth were worn badly and the bar had a lot of wear on it also. On the other hand, my Wood Shark has less than 10 hours of use, and has had two major failures. These two saws are mechanically the same.

[@johnclarke6647]

😅I finally got my Stihl 024 runner ng, today. I bough it for $20@ few weeks ago. Iwill probably ha $150 in it when I am through with it. It was made in West Germany in the ‘80’s.

[@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156]

I had my 025 out yesterday cutting some real tough wood. It is definitely a homeowner grade saw, as it worked pretty hard to do the cutting, and was easy to stall the chain. These small saws are at their best, doing branching, small firewood etc., brushing and other light work, and work really well for those applications. I really don't like the .325 chain though.

[@johnclarke6647]

@@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 just remember it is only a 42.5 cc saw. It will cut with that Polan Woodshark you have. .325 is a full chisel chain with a lot of cutters for the bar lengthbut cuts smoother than a 3/8 chain of the same configuration. My .325 chains do not bog down that bad because they are Stihl RS chains and I keep them sharp. I don’t care whether a saw is a homeowner grade or a pro grade, as long as they have a fully adjustable carb and adjustable oiler. My 025 has both. It has an 18” bar on it and I think it has 74 cutters on it. If I want to cut big stuff, I got lots of 20” Pro saws that won’t stall in the cut.

[@johnclarke6647]

@@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 if one of my saws stalls in the cut they get another quarter turnout on the H jet and I will turn it out until it doesn’t stall. I want my saws to keep the same rpm throughout the cut. If I force it into the cuts via the dogs - that, I understand, but with normal pressure I want the rpm to remain basically constant.

[@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156]

I used my 025 on the small end of the tree, and as the wood diameter got larger I switched to my 031, which is 48cc with a 3/8 chain. The difference in power and torque is remarkable, even though the displacement is only slightly larger in the 031, it is a much better saw for harder work. The 025 will get a muffler mod soon to improve it's performance. Today I was cutting much bigger wood in the same tree, using my 051. Even it had to struggle a little bit in this tough wood. The tree is 145 feet long, and the largest wood will be cut with my 075.

[@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156]

The 025 performs much better in softer wood. It has high rpm, but not much torque, so stalls easily with the RS chain when cutting tough wood. My Poulan Wild Thing , after the mods I did to it, actually would outperform the 025, but since it is a piece of crapola, the crank failed on it. I was given 3 Wild/Shark saws for parts, and 2 of the 3 have crank failures !

[@johnclarke6647]

There are a few things about Stihl saws that I would like to bitch about but the control lever is not one of them, e.g. certain bore to stroke ratios on certain saws, the lack of a decompression valve on certain saws, like the MS 250 and 251 and the starter pulley ratios on other saws. Stihl just does not make certain saws easy to crank for a large part of the population and are to in bed with some environmental groups and governmental agencies.

[@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156]

Stihl like others have made some less than good saws. The worst ones I can remember were a pair of 034's. Very hard starting, really need a decomp valve and the control mechanisms are really cheapo. The EPA has really made saws a lot worse than they used to be.

[@johnclarke6647]

@@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 everything today is Woke. I’m not, nor do I expect any veteran is a member of that community. My Stihl saws are not hard starting - I just don’t have the strength that I used to have. I used to crank mid 50 cc saws without blinking an eye, but 45 cc saws beat me to death these days. My MS 260 Pro and 026 Pro are easy for me to start, but the MS 250 is almost impossible for me to pull over. Those suckers will lift my right foot off the ground and I weigh 190#. My 025 and 024 are pretty easy to start, all considering, but they are not as easy as my old Poulans. In the old days, pulling a saw over was not any consideration, but it is today. The consideration back then was - will this thing run, today? All my Stihl saws will run, but do I have enough strength to get them to run.

[@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156]

It is unusual how companies have made some really great saws that are easy to start, easy to service and easy to repair. Then they cheapen up the same basic saw, make them hard to start, repair etc.

[@johnclarke6647]

@@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 that true. Everybody rants how easy Husqvarna saws are to repair, but they have only worked on certain models. I do agree that most Husqvarna saws are easy to start but I have owned a few that were not. If you can drop start a saw most of them are easy to start but my left arm keeps me from drop starting a saw. If you want a hard saw to pull over, get a Husqvarna 61. If you want a hard saw to work on get a Husqvarna 350- a 455 ain’t no piece of cake, either. Tome Stihl saws are easy to work on - I guess I have seen enough of them. There are some things on a Stihl that are hard to do - Install a new boot and sometimes a fuel and impulse line but they are not impossible, just tedious.

[@benwinter2420]

Boiled barley & olive oil & wine gruel powered the old ways hand tools Greeks ancient apparent

[@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156]

Next time I eat gruel and drink wine out of my kylix, I will let you know why I prefer using gasoline to operate my equipment.