the problem you hda with schmets needles on certain singer machines and then with the singer ones whent well is mostly due the crazy needles they have donne for the 306 series 206x13 needles.... in a while there where alot of needles cheap around the market, since the machines where really expensive (the 306 zigzag) so singer technicians modiffyed slightly the timing of the machines and needle height to work with the 206x13 needles... it has the eye height almost equal with the 15x1 needles only that they are a bit shorter... like 2 mm shorter... the reason i know that is because i was looking for sewing machine for heavy fabrics marine sumbrella, vinyl egg and an old guy 85years old 60 fixing sewing machines show me in his collection the 306 machine, show me how to dismantle it and clean it and how to do the timing for a 15x1 needle...
@Linda-di2es5 жыл бұрын
I have been quilting on my vintage Kenmore so I change the needle frequently. Amazon sells organ needles and they are very cheap. I have been watching all of your videos regarding Kenmore and I find them fascinating. You have a wealth of knowledge on most vintage machines and that’s very helpful to everyone, be they new at sewing or experienced. I think you’re very interesting.
@barbaramatthews473510 ай бұрын
I've been sewing for a long time but never took much time thinking about different needles. I'm getting more interested as I want to know more.
@JaqueBampi4 жыл бұрын
Love your videos! I bought a 1929 sewing machine (model 127), and all I have been watching is your channel. I will start cleaning it this week, and will for sure avoid damaging it due to your amazing tips! Thank you!
@VintageSewingMachineGarage4 жыл бұрын
So great to hear when others show interest in bring back these machines. I always find that if I'm patient, I'm a lot less likely to foul things up.
@ca61773 жыл бұрын
I agree, I’ve been so frustrated when sewing because “new” sewing machines just don’t live up to expectations! I’m on a determined hunt to find a restored vintage machine! Wish me luck, but with this channel I feel I can go forward with some confidence to find the machine I dearly want!
@ca61773 жыл бұрын
Again, another good learning video! I was so glad I’ve actually bought Organ brand sewing machine needles before watching this video!👍
@annwaters94844 жыл бұрын
Informative on a frequently ignored issue! Thank you!
@jenniewren93515 жыл бұрын
I keep a note by the machine of when I last cleaned, oiled, and changed the needle of my machine, adding the size of the needle. My memory is shot! I picked up a 1939 99k Singer (hand crank) that was going to be binned. The paintwork and exterior is lovely, but it's seized up a bit inside. I only started sewing a couple of years ago and so restoring this machine will be a very steep learning curve. Thanks for the videos.
@crowznest4384 жыл бұрын
Update?
@jenniewren93514 жыл бұрын
jeanne griffin so I oiled the machine and serviced it as per the videos and ........ it stayed seized up. It was such a beautiful machine I couldn't get rid of it so it stayed on a table, near a heater, in my sewing room with the original wooden cover. A friend came several months later and I showed her the machine and lo and behold it worked! I haven't tried sewing with it yet as we've been decorating etc since lockdown.
@crowznest4384 жыл бұрын
@@jenniewren9351 That's a wonderful story!!! What fun that must have been - I guess it just took time for the oil to work into those frozen areas. I will look forward to the conclusion, should you care to share..
@amos6163 жыл бұрын
@@jenniewren9351 I’m betting the heat from the heater worked with the new oil you put on it to loosen the old congealed oil to loosen it up. Lots of times over a series of days, I’ll apply oil and then take a hair dryer to help it work itself in and keep alternating them as needed!
@patriciajrs468 ай бұрын
@@amos616That's really cool.
@elizabethclaiborne64613 жыл бұрын
LOL! Everybody watching this channel is already in the nerd zone, no worries about scaring us off.
@nonyabidness1623 Жыл бұрын
Older, but never out of date! Thank You so much for the information on needles, very helpful, Oh and I love the early old sewing machine tools, parts needles, machines, I have been learning how to clean oil, fix them, though sometimes parts aren't readily available, I need a museum, or like minded collector to one day leave these to! God Bless You always,. Appreciate your time and insight, expertise! lis
@VintageSewingMachineGarage Жыл бұрын
You are so welcome!
@nathalieslachmuylders2 жыл бұрын
I am in the process of fully cleaning a European Willcox&Gibbs and am enjoying the content of your channel as I am going through all of it. I wanted to add that my preliminary search shows that it is currently difficult to find needles that fit onto this machine, since it is a chainstitch topthread-only type. Needles that fit these machines are not reproduced anymore. I did find some : ) though. In my parents' garage, my grandmother's grandmother's treadle (machine dates from 1900-1910) is waiting for me: I look forward to cleaning and restoring it (and sewing with it after 50 years non-use) and have really benefited from your videos tx! The name on the cast iron feet is not a brand. I enquired about it in Belgium's museum of industry and was told that those unknown names are often from local carpenters who made the cabinets. They bought the machinery from Singer (or Pfaff), without the Singer brand name and that is how it was sold. Don't know if similar things happened in the US? Regards
@VintageSewingMachineGarage2 жыл бұрын
Interesting. I did not know that Wilcox&Gibbs were sold outside of N. America.
@patriciajrs468 ай бұрын
I just watched another Vintage Sewing channel, Evelynn Wood. She's very knowlegeable. Thank you, too, as guys often prefer to listen to men who sew. Tok Customs; Corneilius Quiring, to name a couple.
@VintageSewingMachineGarage8 ай бұрын
As for myself, I will listen to any sewer that I can learn from regardless of gender.
@YouTuber_Sue4 жыл бұрын
Super interesting, thank you SO much for this info!
@lindamorgan2678 Жыл бұрын
Thanks this was excellent .. as all your videos. I saw that chart once before in a manual very helpful will try to find it again. I have heard exactly from very experienced sewers just as you said some vintage Singer like Singer needles not the Kenmore I have also heard that Singers are fussy with thread too. Alot of Kenmore seems to be not as tight with their tolerances and more forgiving then the top of the line Singers in the 50's. I know absolutely nothing about thread but you do hear complaints and solutions from the experienced in forums and sometimes it is the thread. I am like you I would keep the vintage needle packages :-) Thanks again wonderful vid
@VintageSewingMachineGarage Жыл бұрын
Some Singers can be a 'bit' more cranky with tension but not all of them. The 400, 500 series, for example, can take a bit of 'dialing in' to set the tension just right. But they are wonderful machines regardless. But yes, it is a bit of a mystery why some Singers are fine with other branded needles but some will not sew well without a Singer brand needle. The 221 Singer Featherweight comes to mind as one of the machines that really shines with Singer needles.
@lindamorgan2678 Жыл бұрын
@@VintageSewingMachineGarageThanks so much for your reply and clarifying which models. Love you and your channel.
@mrsweirdfantastictoys33615 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing this
@VintageSewingMachineGarage4 ай бұрын
You bet!
@presszoolasz767 Жыл бұрын
I really like your videos, thank you for making them. I have similar experience with Singer needles. All of my machines are happier in case I'm using Singer needles. The sound of the sewing is finer somehow, and I have less skipped stiches on denim. With other brands I could have skipped stiches when the machine goes from thin parts to thick parts on the material. But not with Singer needles.
@VintageSewingMachineGarage Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@patriciajrs468 ай бұрын
Interesting.
@eldersandim30085 жыл бұрын
Interesting. Excellent explain,
@brandimr234 жыл бұрын
I love Organ I use it in my new machines and embroidery machines.
@franwald83182 жыл бұрын
I just found you and I think your great! Easy to understand, thanks
@VintageSewingMachineGarage2 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@elizabethclaiborne64613 жыл бұрын
Ball point needles AND ball point pins in knits, with a stretch stitch on a later machine. Older machines won’t give you the knits performance, my go to is a 1985 White Jeans machine, a knit wear champ!
@missviolette223 жыл бұрын
My technician said to never use modern Singer needles in any of my machines. I have a couple vintage ones, and a Babylock Sophia 2. I had to have the bobbin case replaced because I used a modern Singer needle in it. They do seem to be different, but I'm not sure why.
@patriciajrs468 ай бұрын
Good to know. Thanks.
@marcosmeza1678 Жыл бұрын
Great video, awesome information. Thank you !
@VintageSewingMachineGarage Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@jojosewist89215 жыл бұрын
Although my Kenmore 158.1941.2 and my Singer 237 both use 15 bobbins. The kenmore will only stitch correctly if the 7 hole metal bobbin used. However the Singer makes great stitches with any 15 bobbin inc. plastic. Go figure. Thank goodness they both like any home sewing machine needle.
@avelsgard785 жыл бұрын
Loving your new informationals! Also..I have found the same thing with certain Singers wanting only Singer needles. I have one that will not take even the new Singer needles. Only the ones before around the 80's. My 66 treadle takes anything but the humble 328k gives me bird's nests if I try anything other than the vintage Singer needles. WEIRD! Thank you so much for all the work you've done....it's definitely appreciated!
@strayblackcatsmeow Жыл бұрын
The slant-o-matics have some seriously tight tolerances so it should be expected that the needles had to be that way too. I doubt the new needles meet those tolerances but with modern machining, most probably suffice.
@frez7775 ай бұрын
excellent
@VintageSewingMachineGarage4 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@rosegulab11644 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much useful information.
@ronalddaub97402 жыл бұрын
I have an old monarch that I just discovered has a needle that is almost a quarter to 1/8 of an inch longer than the regular singer or Kenmore needle
@staylor863811 ай бұрын
Hello. Thanks for educating me. I an a fan and have learned so much from you. Recently I purchased a singer sewhandy model d50 :) The original needle size is singer needles size 24x3 ( no longer in production)or sub Organ 24x1 size 11. Can you please explain what is the numbers 1 or 3 means in above mentioned sizes? Is it the size of the needle eye or what? Thanks in advance for your time and help. Sue
@jarikinnunen1718 Жыл бұрын
I bought an unbranded needle set whose first needle eye was directed diagonally and the threader didn't work.
@stephaniepotts9410 Жыл бұрын
Interesting about Singer needles. I have had just about every model of vintage Singers except the featherweight. I never used the Singer needles, either new or vintage, because I read in a vintage singer group that they could damage my vintage machines due to the length being longer (If I am remembering correctly). So I have always used Scmetz in my Singer 15, 201, 202 and slant needle machines. Obviously, the treadles had different needles. I have always been afraid to try the Singers. I may look to try Organ needles after this video. I am curious if anyone has tried the Super Nonstick Universal needles or the double eye needles that Schmetz has in the slant needles or the older 15's, 201/202 machines.
@mikecollins82415 жыл бұрын
That small wooden "box"/ tube you were showing (as a place to store needles) looked like it said something on it about replacing shuttle.. Could it be the container an old shuttle style bobbin came in, repurposed as a needle case? looks like about the right size..
@VintageSewingMachineGarage5 жыл бұрын
That's a great theory Mike. You may be correct given the dimensions for it. Although it was not a "Vibrating Shuttle" type machine it was found with, your guess could be correct since people have often collected notions and parts from various machines over the years and those items are often held onto. I find it useful for storing needles, but it could very well be that it was not used as original needle packaging. Some of the older needles I showed in this video were in old Singer packs made from paper and Cellophane.
@ca61773 жыл бұрын
How do I convert needle size in my vintage white 565 sewing machine owner's manual to today's needle size? For instance, my manual says needle # 4 is used to sew "extremely heavy tarpaulin, sacking, canvas, duck, etc".. I notice that needle # go from 00 - 4. Thanks
@emelyn_brooks Жыл бұрын
I have an old singer machine embroidery book and it has a chart for old and new needle sizes. 000 = 7. 00 = 8. 0 = 9. B = 11. 1/2 = 14. And that is the highest that chart goes. 4 is probably 21, which is about the highest you can go in a domestic machine.
@patriciajrs468 ай бұрын
@@emelyn_brooksCould you possibly upload a picture of that page, or please tell her where you purchased that book and the name of it? Thanks.
@amandarossouw4933 жыл бұрын
Thanks I have a finicky Kenmore that will only take size 16 Shmetz needles . I'm definitely going to try the singer needles as well as organ and see how well it does especially on the zig zag stitches.
@johnathonkuhn77313 жыл бұрын
Is there such thing as a needle that is both Jeans and Topstitch? I see Cordura and I often bend the needles and even more often break a brand new needle. The thing is, for some reason only the topstitch needle is working for my main machine (brother PS500.... I literally JUST bought an1959 Singer 251-12 which is what brought me here! Love the channel!)
@4GrandmaTina.2 жыл бұрын
I have a Free Westinghouse sewing machine that needs cc1221 needle do you know where I can get them
@hildatrejo803 жыл бұрын
Tha ks for th class
@davide54293 жыл бұрын
Hi, I was told to buy some HLR schmetz needles to sew thin leather and Velcro, but as you said I later saw that the designation for leather needles is HLL. Do you now the difference between the two? Thank you for all your great videos (my only advice is trying to keep them slightly shorter, but only if it's possible to do without reducing the awesome informative content)
@VintageSewingMachineGarage3 жыл бұрын
Hello Davide. Each brand of needles uses there own acronyms/description when it comes to "Leather Tip" needle types. If you are ever in doubt, I would ask the seller to confirm that what you are buying is for leather. I had to ask a seller of some needles I got recently what the acronym meant for some serger needles I purchased since they were not marked clearly as ball point or sharp point.
@davide54293 жыл бұрын
@@VintageSewingMachineGarage thank you!
@cherylharris28952 жыл бұрын
I purchased some schmetz needle but appon taking out 1 needle some fell out and I'm not sure about the colour coding and as you know you need to get the correct size for the selected project
@AquinoFamily99Ай бұрын
My vintage machine, a Brother Select-o-matic, came with a bent Singer 110/18 needle and it is 1/8 inch longer than any standard needle I have. I don’t know how to find these long needles, or how to adjust it to a shorter needle.
@ButterflyLullabyLtd Жыл бұрын
Hello from the UK. I have a Bradbury Sewing Machine, before SINGER (British). It worked like a dream until the needle broke. I am sure it was a all round shape with no flat edge on the needle. My partner managed to lose the broken needle so I do not have the original. Do you think I can find a Universal needle that will fit this machine? Any support would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
@ButterflyLullabyLtd Жыл бұрын
I've sadly just been ripped off. I purchased Bradbury Sewing Machine needles. The expert did not tell me that these needles were for Bradbury factory machines. And refused to refund. He tells me after that Bradbury Sewing Machine needles are not all the same. I really love this machine. Any help and support would've greatly appreciated.
@joannewicks91042 жыл бұрын
I have inherited a treadle it calls for a B eldrege rotary N S needle One was in the machine and is about 1/4 inch longer than our domestic 15 needle. Any idea where I can find and purchase what i think is a 20 x1 needle?
@drunkingsailor23595 ай бұрын
Since were discussing needles what will work for a kenmore 120 49 ? I haven't found the 49 needle anywhere.
@vintagemountaineeringandhi60604 жыл бұрын
Do the Schmetz Sewing Machine Needles Leather, fit the Singer 28k and/or 27k?
@jorjableess841111 ай бұрын
What size needle would my treadle The Free made in Rockford IL (it is not No 5) I think it is a model C I don’t have a manual
@JudithBrummett4 жыл бұрын
I am sewing on a 1917 western Electric (converted to a hand crank but motor still working) and the needle is a bit longer. Should I try using a new one or will it hurt the machine? I have been using sand paper to very lightly sharpen the one that came with the machine. Years ago I almost ruined a really expensive machine using Singer needles. It seemed ok at first then all of a sudden my machine would not sew and after paying $400+ to have it repaired it was returned with a sticker on the front that said NO color coded or Singer needles. lol so Im nervous to try anything
@ronalddaub97402 жыл бұрын
I have the same trouble I just found out my monarch treadle takes a longer needle
@ronalddaub97402 жыл бұрын
Did you ever find the longer needle?
@rndea100 Жыл бұрын
my vintage singer take a size 19 an size 21 needle were can i find them the 22s fit but are jus a fraction to long ??
@VintageSewingMachineGarage Жыл бұрын
Today, they sell home sewing needles up to size 20. You are not likely to find them at retail but online sellers will have them. I would NOT use 22 size as those are not compatible and will damage the machine.
@rndea100 Жыл бұрын
@@VintageSewingMachineGarage i found sum 21s that fit if the 22 an up were a fraction smaller with a flat side im sure they would work
@Iceonfire18784 жыл бұрын
Do you know how to cut off a needle for a short needle? My Free Westinghouse takes a needle that is 1 3/8 inches long. I am not able to find them anywhere. There was a video on here years ago on how to cut them off but for the life of me I can't find it...or the needles.
@VintageSewingMachineGarage4 жыл бұрын
I have heard of folks doing this to "fabricate" a needle to fit, but I've not done so myself as I've never found or worked on one of the Westinghouse models. Try searching on Google for blogs where others have attempted the idea if videos are not forthcoming.
@amos6163 жыл бұрын
I have seen where they clamped them and cut them off from the base end and filed it a bit. Can’t remember the specifics of it though. I feel like it was on a blog post rather than a video
@maggiewatte22315 жыл бұрын
I have an old White rotary embossed machine , series 77. I’ve read that this machine takes a certain type of needle. Is this true? If so , where and what type do I get?
@VintageSewingMachineGarage5 жыл бұрын
Hi Maggie. The White Rotary Model 77 will accept common home sewing machine needles in sizes up to Size 18. Be sure to follow the manual (if you don't have one, you can find them online and often for free). The manual will guide you in how to position the needle correctly and threading direction. The only thing that I would say is specific to your machine are the Rotary style bobbins and I would also note that the hand wheel rotates away from you when facing the machine unlike most machines where the hand wheel spins in the direction towards you when you sit in front of it. Only the domestic sewing machines made during the 1800's for the most part have proprietary needle types but as the industry consolidated, they developed the 15x1 spec that is still used today. There can always be a few exceptions, but your machine should take the same needle types that most do.
@maggiewatte22315 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the reply. I do have the bobbins and manual. The needle thing was stumping me.
@maggiewatte22315 жыл бұрын
I just picked up an old free Westinghouse. The needle the manual said to use is no longer available. Any options on what to do?
@VintageSewingMachineGarage5 жыл бұрын
Hi Maggie. If you have the Free Westinghouse ALC model, then it requires CC1221 type needles which are not in production. There is a website that carries some fairly obscure and tough to find items (there inventory is small). I would suggesting trying them but be sure to confirm with them that anything you buy is compatible with your specific model. Yours is similar to some versions of the New Home Rotary machines. The site that I would suggest trying to MAYBE find what you need is: sewingmachine221sale.bizland.com/store/page56.html Scroll down towards the bottom half of the page for needles and you should see some that MAY fit your machine, but again, be sure to double check with the seller. You can also search at Ebay where you might find vintage but new/unused needles that you could try. Good luck in your search and let us know if you find any needles for your machine.
@maggiewatte22315 жыл бұрын
Thank you, on with the search
@maggiewatte22315 жыл бұрын
I found the needle. Only one. Anxious for it to arrive.
@VintageSewingMachineGarage5 жыл бұрын
Great news Maggie. They are not cheap, but if you are sewing reasonable weight fabric, I should hope you get good use out of them. I have seen some on Ebay for sale as well. You can google "Free Westinghouse Rotary" needles and also "Domestic Rotary" needles. All the best!
@MildredGlutz5 жыл бұрын
I have read that with machines that have obsolete needles, some have resorted to making a shim from adhesive craft magnet material and push it up against the needle stop so that they can use today’s available needles. I don’t know whether it is advisable but I tried it on a Rotary Reversew and so far it’s stitching fine.