Why did Oris watches have to use outdated technology?

Today we have a gorgeous old Oris watch on the bench, in need of some tender love and care. But what that's strange looking movement inside it? Join me for a full service of this pin pallet watch and a discussion of why a nice brand like Oris would use an inferior solution like this in an otherwise high grade watch.
Oh, and we'll delve into the wonderful (?) world of old Norwegian fairy tales which might once have seemed reasonable but are horribly outdated in our modern world!
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[@grantamos6299]

The Great Ice Cream Debacle of '22 also there there's a cool wristwatch.

[@VintageWatchServices]

😂👍

[@devonlecliar1652]

You rock . Love learning history .#1

[@OscarOSullivan]

@@VintageWatchServicesOris’s 1930’s to 1960’s pin pallet movements are actually quite well made they even made Chronometer certified pin pallet movements

[@VintageWatchServices]

@@OscarOSullivan So you watched the video then! 👍

[@jtmiller3782]

Hi Stian: Your restorations are amazing. I am 80 years old, but when I was younger, I worked on clocks, but was too afraid to tackle watches because of their size. At my age I have a little shake in my hand, so I can at least take pleasure in your craftsmanship in restoring and saving these beautiful timepieces for another generation.

[@supereddydantes]

Maybe Try with old Korean clocks just for kicks, most I have are quite sturdy with relatively sizeable components.

[@jtmiller3782]

Thanks

[@jtmiller3782]

Thanks for the tip

[@jtmiller3782]

Thanks

[@VintageWatchServices]

Very nice to hear, JT, thanks :)

[@neilkaye888]

You and Nakkid watchmaker are the 2 best KZbin videos for everything watches and it's informative and thoroughly absorbing. Well done. Keep up the great clips. Including the nose hairs and Nordic stories. Thanks

[@extremelydave]

Those nose hairs remind me of my favorite cat so don't do away with them!!!

[@1959Berre]

Have you not seen any video on Wristwatch Revival?

[@Illsamustache]

You should check out ‘Red Dead Restoration’ too. He’s an incredibly good watchmaker.

[@kevinl.7487]

@@1959Berre ​ I totally agree, Wrist Watch Revival is great to watch as well. I love the fact that Theon , Marshall, and Joe have their own way of doing things, and yet the end results are always the same. Great work Wrist Watch Revival, Vintage Watch Services, and Nekkid Watchmaker keep the videos coming!

[@SideWalkAstronomyNetherlands]

And don't forget about "My Retro Watches" :) And naturally Kalle Slaap.

[@endy_fx]

I love that after so much time being under technical restrictions, Oris looked at the world and decided that quartz wasn't for them, and it was everybody else that was wrong 🤣

[@arnoudstigter]

Splendid indeed. Lovely video again. Always a pleasure when a new upload appears

[@VintageWatchServices]

Yep, that takes some massive balls and it was very, very cool of them :)

[@VintageWatchServices]

Thanks so much, Arnoud!

[@tristanballu6572]

Super la sea gull et superbe vidéo qui est très bien expliqué. Good job

[@stefanomenegazzi]

Watch restoration is fascinating... Great job!

[@rangerider9091]

When you took the crystal off I was amazed at the beautiful dial hiding underneath.

[@briancarruthers1738]

Nice to see a pin pallet movement for a change and the history lesson on the associated Swiss laws is fascinating. I wonder what will happen about the right to repair movement versus the swatch reluctance to provide spare parts? Maybe that'll be a future history lesson

[@jakubklein]

As i work with my head and tbh am am not quite capable of such level of craftsmanship i always find such restorations to be amazing relaxation. The Oris in the video sure was gem hidden under layer of dust. well done! Thanks

[@red75v67]

Love the history lessons Stian. A great watch brand for those starting out in the hobby. Cheers for the lovely camera work, Howard

[@VintageWatchServices]

Thanks as always, Howard :)

[@romualdgardes1461]

All of your watch restorations videos are like plenary lectures, showing us not only the craftsmanship and techniques, but also giving us the historical frame and useful comments born out of experience. Many thanks!

[@VintageWatchServices]

Glad you like them!

[@MomirPeh]

A fascinating watch, for certain, this Oris. You did a really fine job restoring it, as always. Keep 'em coming! And, congrats, Sean!

[@sirthicenskoorb3684]

Your gentle voice is so nice to hear. And I've learned so much about watches from you. I'm in awe of the way watches are made.

[@kamonkwong4287]

It is a wonderful Oris rebuild. Love Oris brand so much! good job. Thanks for sharing.

[@krisztianfrank1345]

The slowmo of the parts dipping into the cleaning solution killed me.

[@VintageWatchServices]

😊👍

[@danspencer9499]

I see vintage watches for sale all the time with scratched plastic crystals. It's amazing how little care some people take with their watches.

[@opanick74]

It would be boring to keep permanently in mind that the watch on your wrist has a plastic crystal that needs care.

[@MetalTrabant]

Yeah, this one looked like it's been dragged on concrete for a while... poor little watch.

[@neonteepee8453]

It never ceases to amaze me how you go from a beaten up disaster to something that looks like it just got delivered in a very fancy wooden box. When i do that it looks like a very slightly less beaten up disaster that hasn't seen a wooden box in a very long time!

[@vincenttolve9756]

I will tell you how instructive and engaging I found this example of your work: I ordered an Oris watch and I am eating chocolate ice cream right now. Thanks.

[@VintageWatchServices]

😂👍

[@robk4029]

very interesting content, especially for amateurs which sometimes want's to get knowledge of different calibers and ways to clean and restore 👍

[@alphaoe]

I am often impressed not only with the designs of watches, But the knowledge of the people such as yourself, so many variables

[@Vandal_Savage]

I've never really been that interested in wristwatches but since I found your channel I've become fascinated with the mechanics and ingenuity of it all! Thanks for the upload! 🙂

[@VintageWatchServices]

That's very cool to hear :)

[@garyjohn1956]

Nice watch but the grey nose hair comment was awesome! Love watching these and a little humor thrown is a bonus.

[@jacobgreenmanedlion1863]

I always thought the high view some entry-mid watch collectors have of Oris watches odd, as this is the kind of stuff I remember them making- the better end of pin-pallets, but still pin pallets. Most of the more modern stuff until very recently has been me-too ETA-derived stuff. My interest in watches is as mechanical art, and I don’t see oris this way; for the money I can get much nicer vintage stuff. I mean to each their own, of course. PS if I win the contest, please run the randomized again. If I win it it’s going to be tossed in a drawer and never worn, I’m sure someone else would be happier to have it.

[@garyboyle695]

Much more to a watch than the movement and nothing wrong with an ETA movement. This whole in house movement rubbish is relatively new and to be honest not a particularly good one. Expensive to service and durability etc has still to be proven.

[@jacobgreenmanedlion1863]

@@garyboyle695 I am a vintage watch collector. To me what’s wrong with ETA movements is I own several examples of practically every family. Owning more of them is disinteresting. My collection is about a collection of unique mechanisms. I care about nothing else, really. From a functional timekeeping perspective there is nothing wrong with them. We all collect watches for our own reasons, all legitimate. The outside of the watch to me is practically irrelevant. As is, to some extent, the brand name- unless the mechanism is evidence of the manufacturer, like vintage Longines calibers, for instance. I love Stians videos. However this is partially because I am also a watchmaker. He is very good at his trade.

[@juliusmuai1237]

It's always nice to see vintage watch restoration... But more nice are the designs of the watch...

[@lulul]

these watch restorations are so interesting to watch, i don't know what it is. maybe it's the deconstruction of a complex thing, it feels simple in the end or the way they just come back to life with a little care.. probably just the regular "modern man" problem where we just wish we would do something with our hands.. i appreciate the skill and patience. i for one don't have the dexterity, nor the eyesight for it..

[@quinninstrumets8259]

I agree, there is a real satisfy quality to be had watching a deconstruct and reconstruct of a complex mechanism in about 30 minutes, and poof it’s just had a makeover. It’s better than watching Dr Pimple Popper.

[@VintageWatchServices]

😁 I like watching cow's hoof trimming videos!

[@guataco]

@@VintageWatchServices the hoof gp yeii

[@tooslow8150]

Thx for the explanation of why oris used the movements they did. I love the brand that explains why their vintage is less desirable.

[@hectormonclova7563]

And Oris keeps that aesthetic in most recent models, that fine 50’s small dress watch looks. Beautiful job.It rose to its original dignified state. Blessings.

[@joekudlata7113]

I’m a retired printing machine operator and maintenance guy. After retiring I took up watch making, the gears were easier to lift in my advanced age. Love watching your videos, keep them coming. And hopefully I’ll enjoy that Seagull watch. Cheers

[@VintageWatchServices]

Thanks, Joe!

[@craigruff8916]

I find it is always satisfying to see the watches being disassembled, cleaned and reassembled. I wonder how well I'd do working with all those small parts, but I've too many hobbies right now as it is, so I guess I'll just have to be satisfied with watching videos for now.

[@samnova450]

Love the Black and Gold color combination. Glad the dial was intact the way it was.

[@extremelydave]

I found one of you videos quite awhile ago by luck and decided to watch it. And here I am now, MUCH more educated about watches and love to see how each video shows a watch that is somehow different. Your narration during the rebuild process is what makes these videos so entertaining. You do a great job on the video process also. People don't realize how hard it is to make them look as good as yours do. Lighting the watches is a nightmare!!! Thanks for sharing them with us Theo!!!

[@VintageWatchServices]

Thanks so much Dave, that's really nice to hear :) It's difficult indeed and I am still far from happy with the top down lighting, but I'll try a few things to improve on it. Stian 😉

[@JungleBXU]

Never get tired watching your videos. Your one of those people why I get very interested of watch repairing. More vidoes please. And the seagull is a killer!!! Wow!

[@crbswiss]

Oris is really unique underdog. Love that seagull too!

[@pjwhiles]

Love the Oris, it is one of my favourite brands. I always wondered why they used the pin movements in the older watches. Thank you for your amazing knowledge and humorous comments during the video!

[@TheDunadan01]

Another great restoration, Stian. Like you I don't collect watches, I collect supplies and tools.

[@VintageWatchServices]

Right on!

[@michaelrodriguez7299]

Fascinating story behind the Oris brand. Thank you for another informative video.

[@jdmpilot8001]

Interesting to see the difference in the Pin-Pallet(?) design. Beautiful Dial!!!

[@richardmedina4591]

I never owned a mechanical watch but watching you restore them is really amazing and relaxing.

[@ronaldlinkenhoker5705]

Enjoyed watching you working on the pin pallet movement. Something different and interesting.

[@quinninstrumets8259]

Hi Stian, this ‘50’s Oris is a great example of a classic time capsule, and the dial is simply gorgeous. Interesting history about the Swiss 1934 law, how Oris got caught up in it, how they delt with it. I also learned about pin pallet design, which I never heard of before. I like that you clean up a vintage timepiece with a level of minimalism, less being more, like when oiling. Thanks for another great educational video, and enjoy your ice cream.

[@VintageWatchServices]

Many thanks, JP :)

[@blkcat6184]

Thanks for the history of the Oris pin pallet, I learned a lot.

[@StillCrazee]

Still fascinated by watching these videos, whether it's simple servicing or full restoration of the watches. And I love how you explain it all as you go along!

[@VintageWatchServices]

Thanks!

[@USAHaCkY]

Nice dial and nice service. Thanks for sharing, Stian.

[@daffyduxxx]

What an interesting history Oris has, thank you for sharing.

[@dkhorse]

Excellent video. Oris is an excellent example of how to succed and survive against enormous resistance. They are a great brand. Thanks for your instuctional videos.

[@minobu75]

I have tried to get an Oris on several occasions, but unfortunately, without success, your videos are always interesting, greetings.

[@mohammedali672]

I have enjoyed every video restoration from the day I discovered your channel until now ! I'm always looking for the odd missed episode ! Some advice ? Knit your nose hairs with the hairsprings you have collected , both old and new , and you would have a handsome vest or pullover . Saves that trimming hassle , and maybe it's an activity you and the wife could enjoy during your "down" time between oilings !! I kid , I'm a kidder !! Thank you for guiding me into a new , enjoyable fascinating historical hobby ! I have spent this last summer actually finding mechanical wristwatches at auctions , estate sales and garage sales , too ! Thank you !

[@VintageWatchServices]

🤔 When I was a kid I actually started collecting navel lint in a bottle but my mother threw it away. I never understood why she would do that.

[@mohammedali672]

@@VintageWatchServices Your collection is probably with my grocery sack of toenails , stacked on top of my missing comics !

[@jackhynes160]

I really enjoy when you put the case in ultrasonic cleaner with the volume up! Interesting video as always, I’m contemplating starting the hobby of watch repair and your channel is always informative and fun. Your voice and delivery remind me of my father-in-law. A fine man who taught me much about life. Thanks so much!

[@GreenmanXIV]

My maternal Grandmother, bought me a gold Oris dress watch in 1970.

[@KRColson]

Love your videos! Always a pleasure watching and listening to your often humorous commentary. Cheers from Canada!

[@TheClockwise770]

What a magnificent Oris watch. I always known Oris watches to be the quiet underdog of the watch world. I always enjoy your watch restorations. Thanks for sharing them with us all.

[@moehoward01]

I enjoy the history behind these watches almost as much as the knowledge and craftsmanship.

[@Kyocera234]

At some point I am going to have enough courage to take apart my old Hamilton Mil-W-46374B Military issue and give it a good clean. Probably about 100 more of your videos should do it!

[@dave6445]

It's great to see how different watchmakers interpret their ideas of how accurately their watches should be better than the next. So many different parts that resemble nothing on other watches, yet they run just as accurately! Keep up the great work.

[@supereddydantes]

The combination of a restoration and a bit of the brand history are truly a winning combination in my book, so glad you have so many videos in your backlog

[@scottgm321]

I’m not a watch wearer, but I’m always amazed at how beautiful they can be. I really enjoy watching you work on them. I was eating my ice cream while watching this. Lol

[@VintageWatchServices]

I hope you enjoyed both :)

[@ziemyek667]

I have always loved looking at these tiny cute watch parts. Maybe in my old age I will get myself a set of tools and I will also tinker with watches.

[@AVEEGEELIK]

Another fine watch serviced. And I find this so motivating, I have disassembled my first pocket watch. Now I must go back to all your previous videos to see how to get it to work again 😅

[@stephenmorrissey1254]

I was just talking to my friend yesterday about his Oris he bought in 2009. Very nice watch and it's nice to hear the history of it this morning!

[@SuperPhotoDave]

I like how you are able to polish the case so well without removing too much. You have a very deft hand.

[@VintageWatchServices]

Thanks so much, Dave :)

[@waynepollard6879]

All watches are complicated to me , but the history behind it all , fascinating ! Thank you !

[@scottthorning3963]

I have an oris wristwatch I bought in Holland years ago, its a nice watch, keeps good time...

[@VHMMP]

I scream, you scream, we all scream for ice cream! Nice looking watch and when you polished the case it shows that watch repairers also need to be jewellers! Thank you for another great video.

[@gregboren]

Really enjoy your videos. I may be getting too old to take up an new hobby but your videos are tempting me. Restoring these older watches remind of the good times when things were much different than the world we are in now. Thank you for doing these.

[@VintageWatchServices]

You're never too old to pick up a new hobby, Greg! Having something fun and engaging to do with your time is sure to bring lots of joy :)

[@etherdude]

Stian, another wonderful video. You inspired me after you worked on my Stowa last year, to take up watchmaking myself. I have been working on 12s Waltham model 1894 watches, obviously vintage 1894 - late 1920s. Many of my tools (K&D staking set, L&R MasterMatic cleaning system, and quite a few specialty tools (pivot jewel gauges, watch micrometer, etc.) are nearly as old, but work beautifully made. Thank you for the motivation and fine work that we all enjoy.

[@VintageWatchServices]

That's great to hear, Doug, and I know you've gotten pretty advanced in a short while! 💪

[@dickieadcock]

I don't understand my fascination with the mechanical mechanism that is in a spring powered watch. I think about all the work that goes into servicing a watch and I'm astounded of all the work that went into machining and making all the parts. I truly wish I had seen these videos 30 years ago and maybe I would have taken up watchmaking. Thank you for your videos.

[@hurtaroba]

Love your channel and watches of all kind you work. Please don’t stop making this pieces comes alive every time you work on. Hope you the best for you and family!

[@REV4NS1]

Nice to see a pin pallet movement for a change, stunning dial too.

[@kevinl.7487]

I love my Artelier Skeleton such a beautiful watch, I also love the fact that Oris produces all of their movements in house.

[@stephenhuber1079]

The history you tell about the watches as your work is what I look forward to. It is to me, very relaxing to view your watch work. Blessings to you for sharing your talent with us.

[@stephenhuber1079]

I just wanted to that besides the Or is watch, I really liked the strap you put on it, looks great.

[@VintageWatchServices]

Thanks, Stephen!

[@Bill_Hartnett]

That was very interesting & the dial looks great! Nice pick on the strap too.

[@danielc9312]

It's so satisfying to see an old discarded mechanical watch get new life. Sometimes the old watches are just more stylish than the new ones.

[@davewaltersmusic]

I do enjoy watching your skill and knowledge play out, on each watch you clean and repair. Thank you.

[@KPA78]

I love my Oris and found your comments on their peculiar history highly interesting! Very cool watch!

[@MrAlan0151]

Always loved Oris watches, my Nan had one for 50 years. Too expensive for me to buy for myself.

[@OscarOSullivan]

Fair enough but the crown pilot in 36mm is lovely

[@ygrbooks]

Dear Stian, I learn so much from your videos and love them for it. Keep up the sensational work, please. Not being in the know about scammers these day, I answered the Telegram "you have won" message more ore less like this: "I am old and have enough watches, so please present this to someone else, but thank you for considering me, which made me feel 10cm taller". I am short again now, but would like to ask you not to consider me for the competition: I really have enough watches and would love to see someone else win this.

[@ForkLiftMan03]

What a fascinating movement. I have something similar at home and it runs wonderfully even after many decades of no service.

[@dustingerhardt9889]

I love your videos. I like the humor and the history of these watches that I otherwise would not have known.

[@calypso22]

Lovely watch. Watching you work is always fascinating. Thank you.

[@cjamesbarnard]

It is amazing watching you work. I don't think that I could ever work on these tiny things, but I do enjoy watching your videos.

[@simonatherton8339]

Most people would see that trashed case crystal and throw the watch away, but that dial is gorgeous.

[@VintageWatchServices]

It is!

[@jprichard]

I've always been curious about Oris watches. It seems like a brand that has been counterfeited a lot. This one has a spectacular dial. Just lovely. Thanks for yet another entertaining and informative video, Stian.

[@WristwatchWorkshop]

That dial is pretty spectacular, I love the decoration around the rim.

[@sonvu9756]

Love the vintage watch cared for vibe.

[@michaelhubbert3300]

Another great video. Very interesting to see and hear about the pin pallet. I’d never heard mention of that before. Thanks, as always!

[@stavros_katsopr]

I scream, you scream, we all scream for ice cream! hahahahahaha Stian, you're a gem!

[@ivarwb4115]

From the movie "Down by law" by Jim Jarmusch. Featuring Tom Waits among others: kzbin.info/www/bejne/baOuZKaVd7Vsoac Matter of fact I think the line is much older than this movie.

[@stavros_katsopr]

@@ivarwb4115 Great acting by all three of the main characters, plus Braschi (ie the other half of Benigni). I've seen this movie many times, but this actual phrase i use constantly (at the right tone too!). Be well mate, cheers.

[@durexjim]

What a stunning looking watch.Another great job done by yourself

[@dennisallport5704]

Pretty interesting about this Oris can be setup for center and off center seconds! Thanks for recording your work for us, you are very gifted!

[@zp5908]

I’m not a watchmaker but I always enjoy the way you restore the watches, I don’t watch movies but I do enjoy your efforts. Keep on posting new videos to sooth our eyes with your perfection.

[@jamesbyles7070]

Thank you for your amazing videos Stian. After many years not wearing a watch due to work, I’m just getting back into it again. I’ve been binge watching your videos because they are so informative. Thanks again!

[@VintageWatchServices]

Great to hear!

[@paintanddent]

The practicality and function of a wristwatch is to be appreciated nowadays.. there are so many other ways to find time... but you cannot beat a nice looking wristwatch--- I like your videos and the cool commentary!!

[@kevinmcintyre379]

Thank you for another half hour of peace and relaxation. Even though I have no desire to repair a watch, watching you do it is mesmerizing.

[@VintageWatchServices]

That's very nice to hear, Kevin :)

[@sterol72]

I appreciate that you provide the history surrounding the different watches and watch manufacturers. From one tool junky to another thanks for the videos!

[@VintageWatchServices]

My pleasure!

[@dsell993]

It's interesting to see these different models, and the different approaches to movement design. A lot of cleverness in this one. Thanks for sharing!

[@followthetrawler]

What a beautiful dial, some watches deserve love and care to keep them going, this one really deserves the service you gave it. And what an inspired choice of strap colour!

[@gdaddy2666]

Watches were always a mystery. I am retired now and enjoy watching your videos very much. Thank you.

[@jimmyers8795]

Thanks fir the video, I've never worked on a pin palette movement, and this has got me looking for a cheap Oris to practice on.

[@VintageWatchServices]

They're not that rewarding to work on, tbh. Difficult to make them run very well and they were not designed for longevity. So be warned that it can be a frustrating experience!

[@liamstrain]

Really interesting about the pin pallet movement, and how Oris had to work with it so long. What a strange quirk of unintended consequences. Beautiful work as always!

[@VintageWatchServices]

I know, right?

[@ulfpettersen5732]

as a fellow norwegian i am loving your humor /gets dryer with age this norwegian humor :)

[@VintageWatchServices]

Ja, vi er vel ikke nødvendigvis kjente for vår humor, men den funker for oss :)

[@mo_medghadbane5934]

One of the best watches reviewer = And thanks for this opportunity

[@rbruce63]

I remember all the Swiss watch labels and announcements in San José-Central Avenue. Makes such as Rado, Certina, Oris even Enicar and of course the big expensive makes such as Patek Phillipe, Omega and Rolex. So it’s a fond memory. To receive a watch as a present was only on special occasions!

[@richardbottrell5933]

I own an Oris Large Crown and your superb video has answered lots of questions for me. Thank you.