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Viper Review, Six Flags Darien Lake Arrow Looping Coaster | Is it Still a Quality Coaster?

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@MillenniumForceMan
@MillenniumForceMan Жыл бұрын
I used to ride this all the time because darien lake was my home park until last year, post Covid it has ran insane, great burst of ejector on the first drop, insane whip on the batwing and positives in places I’ve never felt before, all while the park has kept this coaster butter smooth, when I came back to the park the first time after the pandemic I was shocked watching how much this thing hauled, and with the way ride of steel has been running recently this has become my favorite coaster at the park and it’s my favorite one of the classic arrow loopers
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster Жыл бұрын
I much prefer Ride of Steel, but you could make an argument this ride's first half is more intense.
@MillenniumForceMan
@MillenniumForceMan Жыл бұрын
@@CanobieCoaster the problem is that post Covid ride of steel has barely given airtime and just felt slow, when it used to give great ejector I much preferred it to viper
@OklahomaCoasterFan
@OklahomaCoasterFan Жыл бұрын
I have got to get back there. That sounds awesome! I rode it in 2019 and loved it then, and I'm a sucker for these Arrows.
@BiscoWho
@BiscoWho Жыл бұрын
@@CanobieCoaster One day in 2003, when I was 13 years old, my one friend and I rode the Viper 14 times in a single day. Now, anyone who knows how far it is to walk through the entrance to the ride will wonder how we managed to ride it 14 times in one day when they hear the fact that we also rode the Mind Eraser 12 times, the Predator 10 times, and the Superman twice (Superman still took almost 2 hours to ride a single time at this point) all in the same day. We were both top athletes so we ran like hell through the entrance to the Viper as much as possible. And I mean, we would full-on sprint through the whole thing. We would also sprint from one coaster to the other, starting from as soon as we'd get off one. The Viper had green tracks and was bockety AF. But, it was the most fun. When you know exactly where every spot that throws you around is and you move in anticipation of each one, the Viper is the most unbelievable coaster of them all, at Darien Lake, that is. It can be a bit jerky and some people hate that. So, if you're ever disliking a coaster because of that, try riding it til you know every spot and you can move in anticipation. It'll change everything for you
@dparker716
@dparker716 Ай бұрын
@@MillenniumForceManhow does a coaster slow down like that ?
@ThousanWhite
@ThousanWhite Жыл бұрын
I think it's definitely in the upper half in terms of the existing Arrow loopers. For its age, it still runs fairly well. I just hope to God Darien Lake will at least try to run two trains this year.
@empyre9534
@empyre9534 Жыл бұрын
Already went, it seems the may have used parts from the blue train to fix the red train, one car is blue the rest red. Unlikely they will ever run more than one train. Even tantrum was only running one train on opening weekend this year
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster Жыл бұрын
I doubt they will sadly.
@chrismdb5686
@chrismdb5686 Жыл бұрын
DL is in the business of cannibalizing their coaster trains for parts rather than properly maintaining them or purchasing new parts/trains. The reason for 1 train ops on everything is because they only have one train for most of the rides that's still in one piece. Just look at the frankentrain on Mind Eraser...
@godisg1
@godisg1 Жыл бұрын
It use to have a mini golf course in the middle of the ride. I got a chance to operate it when I worked there.
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster Жыл бұрын
Interesting! Is the current queue the one it always had then?
@godisg1
@godisg1 Жыл бұрын
@Canobie Coaster Yes it was the same way when I was working there. They would have you exit by the old batman stunt show building when they closed the back of the park for Frightfest
@empyre9534
@empyre9534 Жыл бұрын
@@godisg1I miss the mini golf, and ranger, and grizzly run, now there’s not much over there at vipers exit
@godisg1
@godisg1 Жыл бұрын
@empyre95 I use to work that area Grizzly Run was my home ride and I was one of the only ones that that liked to operate the ranger. I also ran Mind Eraser, Thunder Rapids, and the UFO, and all the other flat rides
@markvolpe2305
@markvolpe2305 Жыл бұрын
@@empyre9534 Did they end up remove Heave Ho this year?
@donjohnson9688
@donjohnson9688 Жыл бұрын
I love classic Arrows! Can't wait to ride this.
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster Жыл бұрын
It's a solid one.
@Didyus
@Didyus Жыл бұрын
This park needs more love from Six Flags
@natebrown7135
@natebrown7135 Жыл бұрын
I think it would if Six Flags actually owned it instead of just operated it. Why dump a bunch of CapEx into a property that you don't own? Although I do agree, this park could really be something special with some love and investment.
@Liight
@Liight Жыл бұрын
Seriously! It has so much potential!!!
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster Жыл бұрын
I wish it got better operations most of all.
@car_tar3882
@car_tar3882 Жыл бұрын
It’s got a hotel and campground and does hella concerts this should be better than cedar point and carrowinds but instead it’s worse than six flags America
@ThrillsofColdplay
@ThrillsofColdplay Жыл бұрын
Long walks on queue lines are nice when taking videos of roller coaster
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster Жыл бұрын
True!
@denone5327
@denone5327 Жыл бұрын
I did enjoy this ride. I rode it in 2022 and it made me sad that my home park, Kings Island, removed Vortex.
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster Жыл бұрын
I'm interested what they do with that plot.
@OklahomaCoasterFan
@OklahomaCoasterFan Жыл бұрын
It may be a bit outdated, but I have a soft spot for all these Arrow loopers. I love the sound of the lift hills, the airtime on many of the drops, the forces in those tight loops, slow corkscrews, & I'm a sucker for batwings. I'm at the perfect height to manage those restraints. I only got 3 rides on Viper on my half-day (including 2 in a row), but it seemed to be running quite well. The worst part of the ride is what you mentioned--that obnoxiously long walk to the station, then having to exit on the other side of the planet.
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster Жыл бұрын
They're classics for sure. I prefer more refined loopers, but they're still nice additions at their parks.
@flipflubduck
@flipflubduck Жыл бұрын
Solid takes. This is one of my two home parks and the jackhammering on the straightaways takes away a lot from this ride. I'd still argue it's one of the better remaining Arrow loopers tho
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster Жыл бұрын
I'm glad it's still kicking.
@zacharyj1004
@zacharyj1004 Жыл бұрын
My home park, growing up coming here was everything but sadly they choose not to make this a great park rather than neglect it.
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster Жыл бұрын
I wish it got some more love.
@corkscrewfoley
@corkscrewfoley Жыл бұрын
I haven't been to Darien Lake since 2013, but I remember Viper being pretty damned smooth, and a month before, I had my first ride on Tennessee Ternader. Viper had, then, some mild jack hammering in the entry of the batwing, but nothing that took away from the ride. I want to go back, for sure, and see if I still love it.
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster Жыл бұрын
It's a solid ride.
@askjeevescosby2928
@askjeevescosby2928 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact they can't put new vecoma trains with vest restraints on these arrow loopers because the loops on these old arrow coasters you can reach out and touch the supports it'll you tried hard enough. They made the supports to restrict your ability to do that to fix the problem
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster Жыл бұрын
Can't they put bars on the side to prevent that?
@michaelmonte8315
@michaelmonte8315 Жыл бұрын
With Darien Lake as my home park, and having ridden this ride for 20 years, You nailed the experience. It was a very happy day when I grew tall enough to clear the restraints for no head banging 😂 Great review!
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I was glad when that day happened for me with Arrows.
@Puulis
@Puulis Жыл бұрын
This was my first coaster and I used to love it. Despite being fairly short overall I have a very long torso (5'6" standing but taller than my 6'+ friends when we're in chairs) and the over-shoulder restraints aren't tall enough to properly accommodate me any more. I'm forced into a slouching position to get the restraints to close, which turned a coaster that I have a lot of nostalgia for into a positively brutal, lower-back-destroying experience.
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster Жыл бұрын
This is an ambitious first coaster!
@Puulis
@Puulis Жыл бұрын
Hah, it definitely is! I was a little kid visiting the park with my dad many years ago, and I tended to not want to leave my comfort zone. I was big on spinning flat rides like round-up and tilt-a-whirl. He pushed me to ride it since I cleared the height requirement, even though I was terrified of it. Joke's on him, though, because I wanted to go again. I think we rode it 6 times back to back. We eventually stopped when he was tired of the beating the ride was giving him. Being a child and generally made of elastic like most children, I didn't really notice. As an adult though, especially one that doesn't fit in the restraints properly, man it's a rough experience.
@andrewschannel4259
@andrewschannel4259 Жыл бұрын
The batwing looks BRUTAL!!!
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster Жыл бұрын
It's forceful.
@andrewschannel4259
@andrewschannel4259 Жыл бұрын
@@CanobieCoaster Also, I made this using your Apollo's Chariot POV: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mWrEhHesl9KUmqs
@mateoalvira3514
@mateoalvira3514 Жыл бұрын
In 1997, when Mind Eraser, the Vekoma SLC, was built and opened at Darien Lake, did most people and enthusiasts like Mind Eraser or Viper, what do you think?
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster Жыл бұрын
Disliked it
@chrismdb5686
@chrismdb5686 Жыл бұрын
Both were pretty popular among the GP in the past. Viper is still well regarded (although obviously doesn't draw 2+ hour crowds anymore), while Mind Eraser has just about reached its expiration date unless the park does something to refurb it. At the very least they need one brand new train, because their current one is a Frankenstein creation made of parts of their previous whole trains. Could definitely do with a retracking as well, but it'll be dismantled before that ever happens.
@mateoalvira3514
@mateoalvira3514 10 ай бұрын
I think there is a Vekoma looping coaster that Canobie Coaster would say: This ride is better than a lot of Arrow loopers in the USA. It is intense, it has far better pacing, more oomph, and honestly... A) it tracks smoothly. B) it tracks similarly. C) it tracks poorly.
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 10 ай бұрын
B
@jacobselleck9750
@jacobselleck9750 Жыл бұрын
I thought this was glass smooth for an arrow looper. A lot of arrows are actually smooth, they just have bad transitions
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster Жыл бұрын
It's pretty typical for me.
@mateoalvira3514
@mateoalvira3514 5 ай бұрын
Viper is the only one I make an effort to ride. This is what Canobie Coaster said: So if I ask you, why, because the park's other looping coasters, Boomerang and Mind Eraser...
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 5 ай бұрын
They are clones. Mind Eraser hurts too.
@mateoalvira3514
@mateoalvira3514 Жыл бұрын
Would you like to ride Viper at Six Flags Darien Lake again?
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster Жыл бұрын
Yes
@Manic_Drone_Idiom
@Manic_Drone_Idiom Жыл бұрын
Ok, maybe it still retains a bit of forcefulness through the inverts, but just like Kumba(♥) at BGT, that first "drop" is very underwhelming, which seems pretty stock on most Arrow Loopers..To be fair, I haven't been on Viper-or at Darien Lake-since Predator's 1990 debut thirty-three years ago .All the same, good breakdown Canobie. Your review style makes you one of my top favorites...Keep on uploading, and I'll keep on watching brother... Cheers!
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@mateoalvira7826
@mateoalvira7826 10 ай бұрын
Would you like to go again to Six Flags Darien Lake and ride Viper?
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 10 ай бұрын
Yes
@johnfoltz8183
@johnfoltz8183 Жыл бұрын
This was the first coaster to feature 5 inversions.
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster Жыл бұрын
Yes
@stephenkayes8981
@stephenkayes8981 Жыл бұрын
This was my first coaster back the year it opened. I was 9 yrs old.
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster Жыл бұрын
What a first coaster!
@micoasters
@micoasters Жыл бұрын
Arrow? To Darien lake I go!!
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster Жыл бұрын
Enjoy!
@Liight
@Liight Жыл бұрын
I found viper quite smooth personally. I liked it more then Ride Of Steel at the same park. Im also the guy who enjoys SLC’s though…
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster Жыл бұрын
I much prefer Ride of Steel.
@davidpalomeque4689
@davidpalomeque4689 Жыл бұрын
I think it would be great if this coaster (and all Arrow loopers for that matter) had their trains replaced by SunKid GmbH lap-bar-only SCT1200 trains.
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster Жыл бұрын
I would prefer the Vekoma vest trains. Not a fan of the unpadded metal lap bars on the trains you described.
@cliquet3scliquet3s96
@cliquet3scliquet3s96 Жыл бұрын
What does "jackhammering" mean? What do you think about the jackhammering on Viper at Six Flags Darien Lake and the jackhammering on Coaster Express at Parque Warner Madrid?
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster Жыл бұрын
Bouncing. It was far worse on Coaster Express.
@mateoalvira3514
@mateoalvira3514 Жыл бұрын
If your head is above the over the shoulder restraints on Viper, how would you compare Viper, the Arrow looping coaster, and Mind Eraser, the Vekoma suspended looping coaster, both at Darien Lake? Were the two coasters tolerable for you? What do you think? Canobie Coaster would say: Mind Eraser... Viper...
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster Жыл бұрын
Viper is tolerable. Mind Eraser is not.
@ThemeParksAndAttractions
@ThemeParksAndAttractions Жыл бұрын
Nice review I enjoyed it 👍
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@keithsutton8317
@keithsutton8317 Жыл бұрын
The station reminds me of the double loops station at geauga lake
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster Жыл бұрын
Never rode that one.
@mateoalvira3514
@mateoalvira3514 5 ай бұрын
See in RCDB: Viper at Six Flags Darien Lake Boomerang at Six Flags Darien Lake Mind Eraser at Six Flags Darien Lake Those three coasters are located at the same park, so imagine riding them again. What do you think?
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 5 ай бұрын
Viper is the only one I make an effort to ride.
@mateoalvira3514
@mateoalvira3514 9 ай бұрын
Viper at Six Flags Darien Lake: What's your favorite part of the ride? Why?
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 9 ай бұрын
The first half is the best part.
@cliquet3scliquet3s96
@cliquet3scliquet3s96 Жыл бұрын
Darien Lake, did most guests and enthusiasts love, like, not like, dislike or hate, Viper, the Arrow looper, or Mind Eraser, the Vekoma SLC? What do you think?
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster Жыл бұрын
Viper is liked, but not Mind Eraser.
@mateoalvira3514
@mateoalvira3514 Жыл бұрын
Did most people and enthusiasts find Mind Eraser and Viper, both coasters at Darien Lake, as tolerable? What do you think? Both coasters with over the shoulder restraints?
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster Жыл бұрын
Enthusiasts hate Mind Eraser, but Viper is fine.
@mateoalvira3514
@mateoalvira3514 9 ай бұрын
Canobie Coaster, if I ask you, do you like jackhammering, which is a type of roller coaster roughness? Canobie Coaster would say: I prefer...
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 9 ай бұрын
Smoother rides.
@mateoalvira3514
@mateoalvira3514 10 ай бұрын
Of the old school Arrow and Vekoma looping coasters built in the 1980s and 1990s, is Viper at Six Flags Darien Lake your favorite one?
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 10 ай бұрын
No
@mateoalvira3514
@mateoalvira3514 10 ай бұрын
What do you think about Viper at Six Flags Darien Lake in jackhammering, which is a type of roller coaster roughness?
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 10 ай бұрын
It has some shaky spots.
@mateoalvira3514
@mateoalvira3514 Жыл бұрын
And imagine going to ride again Viper at Six Flags Darien Lake and Coaster Express at Parque Warner Madrid, how would you compare Viper to Coaster Express in jackhammering? What do you think?
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster Жыл бұрын
Coaster Express is far worse.
@mateoalvira3514
@mateoalvira3514 Жыл бұрын
In the year you first went to Darien Lake, when? A) 2008 B) 2009 C) 2010 D) 2011 E) 2012 What do you think about Predator, Viper, and Boomerang?
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster Жыл бұрын
C. I will ride all 3 of those. I like Predator best though.
@mateoalvira3514
@mateoalvira3514 6 ай бұрын
So what would you rate Viper at Six Flags Darien Lake?
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 6 ай бұрын
See this review.
@mateoalvira3514
@mateoalvira3514 Жыл бұрын
What do you think about Viper at Six Flags Darien Lake in jackhammering?
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster Жыл бұрын
It does that at points, but it's tolerable if you're tall enough like me.
@mateoalvira3514
@mateoalvira3514 10 ай бұрын
What would you rate Viper at Six Flags Darien Lake? What would you rate Viper at Six Flags Great America? What would you rate Viper at Six Flags Magic Mountain? I want to see the numbers here.
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 10 ай бұрын
I have reviews for two of those.
@mateoalvira3514
@mateoalvira3514 Жыл бұрын
Did most people and enthusiasts find both Viper and Mind Eraser to be tolerable rides, what do you think?
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster Жыл бұрын
Not Mind Eraser.
@mateoalvira3514
@mateoalvira3514 Жыл бұрын
At Darien Lake, did most enthusiasts like Viper or Mind Eraser? What do you think?
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster Жыл бұрын
Most enthusiasts like Viper, but hate Mind Eraser.
@cliquet3scliquet3s96
@cliquet3scliquet3s96 11 ай бұрын
Canobie Coaster, what do you think about Viper at Six Flags Darien Lake? Smooth or jackhammering?
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 11 ай бұрын
It has some jackhammering.
@cliquet3scliquet3s96
@cliquet3scliquet3s96 Жыл бұрын
At Darien Lake, did most enthusiasts like Viper and Mind Eraser?
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster Жыл бұрын
Most do not like Mind Eraser.
@mateoalvira7826
@mateoalvira7826 10 ай бұрын
How many coasters in New York did you find to have jackhammering, which is a type of roller coaster roughness? Examples:
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 10 ай бұрын
Viper is an example of one.
@mateoalvira3514
@mateoalvira3514 Жыл бұрын
Which Viper coaster do you like more, Viper at Six Flags Magic Mountain, Viper at Six Flags Darien Lake, or Viper at Six Flags Great America?
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster Жыл бұрын
Magic Mountain
@thomasxl200
@thomasxl200 Жыл бұрын
Throwing a party in the comment section now that the long-awaited Viper review is out
@thomasxl200
@thomasxl200 Жыл бұрын
A very fair review, as someone with Anaconda in my profile picture I definitely lean more positive on these rides but I can understand where you are coming from. I'm just really glad you gave it coverage. It seems like NOBODY talks about this ride, and it's a piece of history, it deserves to be talked about.
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster Жыл бұрын
Enjoy!
@mateoalvira3514
@mateoalvira3514 9 ай бұрын
And would you ride it in all rows, front and back, Canobie Coaster? What do you think?
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 9 ай бұрын
I like it best in the back car.
@mateoalvira3514
@mateoalvira3514 Жыл бұрын
What do you think about Viper at Six Flags Darien Lake, intolerable or tolerable?
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster Жыл бұрын
Tolerable
@jtbowman132
@jtbowman132 Жыл бұрын
It’s wild to me that it cost that much to build. $20 million adjusted for inflation is insane
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster Жыл бұрын
Makes sense for the scale of it.
@quintinrice2733
@quintinrice2733 Жыл бұрын
How does this park perform against it's competition? I know there's not a lot of competition out there where they are but, Tantrum was a mid-tier investment but, they haven't received anything on a large scale in quite some time.
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster Жыл бұрын
Canada's Wonderland gets a much bigger crowd, but it's kind of hard to compare the two since it's across the border. Seabreeze gets families while this park caters more towards thrill seekers.
@chrismdb5686
@chrismdb5686 Жыл бұрын
The closest competition is Canada's Wonderland (not really comparable), Kennywood (bit far), or Cedar Point (quite far). The smaller local parks like Seabreeze, Niagara, or Waldameer cater to different audiences so in theory Darien Lake would have a monopoly on the more adult crowd in the region. Issue is that it's overpriced, getting pretty run down, and they keep removing attractions rather than really adding anything of value. It's sad because this could be a fantastic park with proper investment.
@quintinrice2733
@quintinrice2733 Жыл бұрын
@@chrismdb5686 I know they've changed owner a couple of times but, I'm truly surprised that Six Flags doesn't put more into this park! I do like that they're trying to bring Predator back to life. I do like that layout and if the entire course is re-tracked like Ghostrider, I think it would be big hit.
@chrismdb5686
@chrismdb5686 Жыл бұрын
@@quintinrice2733 The owner has been the same for about a decade now if memory serves me right, the operators keep changing and the owners reportedly refuse to sell without a list of ridiculous conditions attached. The main reason I'd say Six Flags isn't investing meaningfully is probably a mix of Selim's policies and the fact they don't own the park.
@mateoalvira3514
@mateoalvira3514 10 ай бұрын
How many coasters at Darien Lake did you find to have jackhammering?
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 10 ай бұрын
A few
@mateoalvira3514
@mateoalvira3514 9 ай бұрын
Viper at Six Flags Darien Lake: So what would you rate Viper?
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 9 ай бұрын
See the video.
@cliquet3scliquet3s96
@cliquet3scliquet3s96 Жыл бұрын
How many Arrow loopers do you know in the world with jackhammering?
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster Жыл бұрын
Quite a few have some.
@jzckvsn
@jzckvsn Жыл бұрын
When did you make it out to Darien Lake?
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster Жыл бұрын
Last August
@jzckvsn
@jzckvsn Жыл бұрын
@@CanobieCoaster nice! Darien Lake looks like a fun park!
@StamfordBridge
@StamfordBridge Жыл бұрын
I thought Viper was the second best coaster at the park.
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster Жыл бұрын
I prefer a few to it myself.
@maverickheartlineroll
@maverickheartlineroll Жыл бұрын
Gotta run a whole 5k just to get a reride smh
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster Жыл бұрын
Pretty much.
@askjeevescosby2928
@askjeevescosby2928 Жыл бұрын
Anybody here live in ohio and want to go to cedar point with me 🤣
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster Жыл бұрын
Wish I was closer to that park.
@daniscool8
@daniscool8 Жыл бұрын
I give it a 2/10 this ride sucks.. still not as bad as Darien lakes mind eraser or especially the awful boomerang there
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster Жыл бұрын
I much prefer Viper to those 2 rides.
@NYVET48TFW
@NYVET48TFW Жыл бұрын
It's not a 'bat wing', it's a 'pretzel curve' and has been since day one, I was one of the first thousand people to ever ride the Viper. Still my favorite coaster of all time, much of that being the sentimentality of it but the ride is still awesome.
@WCfanboy
@WCfanboy Жыл бұрын
no one ever called it that, arrow used to call it either a boomerang or kamikaze curve
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster Жыл бұрын
I always have called it a Batwing.
@NYVET48TFW
@NYVET48TFW Жыл бұрын
@@CanobieCoaster I had the original park map when it was still Darien Lake Fun Country back when Paul Snyder owned it before selling to Premiere Parks. The description called it the 'pretzel curve' as did everyone else. But like anything the wording probably morphed into something else (everything gets renamed by the new generation, I'm 57 so...).
@NYVET48TFW
@NYVET48TFW Жыл бұрын
@@WCfanboy yes they did. How old are you? I'm 57, I remember riding this the first week it opened. The original (and subsequent) park maps and brochures referred to it as having 'a vertical loop followed by a pretzel curve and a double corkscrew'...
@WCfanboy
@WCfanboy Жыл бұрын
@@NYVET48TFW maybe the park referred to it as that initially? Arrow called it a kamikaze curve / boomerang, and it’s now called a batwing by most
@mateoalvira3514
@mateoalvira3514 Жыл бұрын
What do you think about Viper at Six Flags Darien Lake, forceful?
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster Жыл бұрын
The first half is forceful.
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