Vir Sanghvi in conversation with Shekhar Gupta on leadership in modern India: Off The Cuff

[@mukhramtewatia3111]

I have been reading n following both of them since 1989 . Veer Sanghvi & Shekhar Gupta both are super intellectual, natural ,excellent in journalism and very fine gentleman. Very glad to see you both chatting together publicly. 👏👏👌

[@74vasu]

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[@FreddieMurphy746]

When Shekar Spoke about 1962' he specifically mentioned that "we lost war due to bad leadership including the Army Chief". Karan Thappar might not like this comment made on his Father. He never speaks about the 1962 War and his Father's role in it.

[@satishvennelakanti]

'Including' can be replaced by 'and' ..

[@samhariharan]

You should see Karan Thapar interview Jairam Ramesh on the release of his book on Krishna Menon. He does not identify his Dad but is quite objective in assialing Nehru and the generals in general, including BM Kaul for the poor execution of the war in 1962 qwth Chiina.

[@FreddieMurphy746]

@@samhariharan I guess, he should say " Apart from his father everyone failed to do their job in 1962'.

[@sanjoyghosh2113]

Great Interview! Shekar…. I have grown with you . We were born in the same year.. 1957, and have known you since your days in India Today. I am very happy that you started The Print. I go to sleep every night after listening to cut the clutter. I congratulate you on your great career success. Best wishes.

[@rameshmisra4764]

Really?! What's great about an interview of a wog version of tej pratap yadav

[@josepharayathel6834]

Thanks Guptaji, I’m in my fifties who grew up reading Indian Express and India Today and all that you say is a reminiscence therapy!! ❤

[@ekanth-]

I am a scientist at a leading corporation in USA. I can state that the South Pole Moon landing of India is a great achievement. It is made possible by the government support of ISRO. For a country as poor as India, it is a great feat. It should not be belittled by these "great scholars ".

[@nagbalkur1365]

Mr. Sanghvi is an "unofficial" spokesperson for the grand old party and its family. honestly, I grew up listening to so many of them, extol virtues of the party/family, that it's hard for me to even trust their words, even when they speak truth (which they do sometimes). You know what, it's time for such "veteran" media retire, just like every other professional retires. their time is over. no one takes their words seriously anymore. Only reason, this is coming now is because of 2024 election. One can expect same in 2028 as well and so on. Time for such "experts" to influence opinion, bring up leaders, change governments are long long gone and they are only prolonging their eventual oblivion

[@alokpandey9532]

he quoted Churchil, what else you want? he cant do everything!!

[@rameshmisra4764]

It would have been lovely if he had pappu,tej pratap and sanghvi all together.

[@TheWatupmr]

Are you really saying SG likes the congress? Clearly you haven’t seen the print. Bashes congress so hard

[@sahas397]

2.6 million subscribers for the print is not a joke and can’t be built without people having real interest since 2017. Its just that you are not watching independent news. Tv media is dead so is cable news. Veer is bias no question.

[@shubhamkumarjha4469]

You should listen to sudhir Chaudhary(tihadi)

[@libshastra]

Look at this statement made by Vir, "Govt Machinery decided to make him (Sanjay Gandhi) a crown prince." Indira Gandhi decided to crown him successor, Congress party sycophancy kicks in full gear but yet it is the Govt Machinery that is blamed by the sycophant. Ladies and Gentlemen, this is what you call a sycophant's smooth talk.

[@Earlytorise89]

Well spotted.

[@learningislife212]

For one thing it's unjust to judge any person for one statement in a long conversation of 1 hr 46 mins without context. If you put it in proper context, he meant that the government machinery was used to crown indira's son as the de facto leader' Anyways his opposition to indira and her dictatorial tendencies is well known.

[@libshastra]

@@learningislife212 Sure, you have a point about context but it wasn't the Govt Machinery that was engaged in propping up Sanjay Gandhi. It was party machinery and ecosystem that was propping up Sanjay Gandhi. Congress goons went around harassing journalists, making them "disappear", buying out editorials etc. So even in context, his statement was factually wrong.

[@mg.f.9023]

“A free press can, of course, be good or bad, but, most certainly without freedom, the press will never be anything but bad.” - Albert Camus

[@bharatsrivastava3964]

when the journalists sell their souls for getting Padma Sree ( in 2007-08), one can't expect objectivity in their journalism. Getting Bungalows in Lutyen during corrupt DrMMS Govt was the only end objective from journalistic career, you may get to see Veer Singhivi & Shekhar Gupta

[@adityakalele3556]

Most prescient and smart journalist of this century. Great conversation.

[@AP-do6sv]

Vir sanghvi… really? This has to be a new low for The Print. I am a subscriber and appreciate the content from SG. However mr. sanghvi has showed he is on the payroll of the gandhi family time and again.

[@arundev1959]

I consider these 105 min listening to you and Vir discussing a variety of issues around leadership well spent. Thank you

[@ProfRaviRanjan]

Great to watch Mr. Singhvi along with Shekhar Gupta. Shekhar's opinion about Musarraf is true to great extent. He was overambitious and started Kargil war with India just to become cheaply popular and finally to be President. In the leadership of Shekhar Gupta The Print has become an example of objective jounalism in the time of highly polarised media.

[@njain1983]

Always such a pleasure listening to Gupta Sir. I am glad that he took names when asked about best/worst, and didn't sit on the fence, trying to avoid trouble. Initially, when I saw how long the video is, I thought, I am not going to watch such a long video... but then once I started, it went like a breeze. The good thing about YT is that you can increase the speed. I generally watch/listen at 1.5X. Hopefully, ThePrint got a lot of new subscribers and funding isn't a problem anymore. The fantastic reporters and support team of ThePrint deserve to be well compensated for the great work they do.

[@sameersharma6948]

It takes courage and strong character to support an enemy. That’s why I admire Shekhar. He might hate Modi for breathing or even existing but still accepts that he’s a wise politician. Also, he gives credit where it’s due.

[@ven41618]

Lol! 🤣

[@ttttt7137]

Are journalists better than politicians , think twice .😂

[@kasiviswanathankrishnan2412]

vir sangvi - once tainted always tainted. he has no credibility left. whatever he says, taake it for granted, he has an ulterior motive.

[@avijami]

Pure 24ct gold conversation. Thank you so much Shekhar ji and Sanghvi ji.

[@Bengalifirst]

Shekar said he would be lynched if he said anything critical about chandrayaan3 ( which is 100% true) . Reminds me of an old Kunal Karma video " India is a democracy until you criticize it! " . Sad it's the reality after 76 years of independence .BTW great interview and discussion !

[@heizingberg]

Shekhar has great stories to recite and makes for an interesting discussion especially when hosted by Vir. Only thing that truly stands out is Shekhars guts to call people various thing so openly. :)

[@anuchugh31]

Always a great learning listening to Shekhar ji. We should have more of his interviews. His vast experience is extremely important to hear.

[@beingindian1335]

Vir snghvi 's interview - please keep it with you Shekhar

[@piyushagarwal1350]

I really loved it, Thank you so much for the discussion Shekhar Sir and Vir ji. I really value the Print for the pieces, discussions and look forward to it to know more about Indian Polity!

[@pocoboy68]

Initially I was reluctant to watch this episode as I thought interview is with Vir Sanghvi who I am not great fan but after 2 minutes I realized that it was reverse. I am glad as this is the jem of off the cuff. Great to hear about respected Shekhar Gupta❤❤

[@ArunKumar-z4i1n]

Shekhar Gupta is truly independent IN HIS ANALYSES on political matter. People have faith in him. He must keep in mind about national interest first and advised accordingly.

[@SeekerYTChannel]

Even though this is a cute convo between 2 old uncles ranting about the present, a keen observer would clearly see how SG confidently passes off total BS as facts. For ex. he confidently says that India being the richest country in the 7th century is "whatsapp history" while this is a well acknowledged fact and actual calculations for this have been made by Angus Madisson and team for OECD.

[@Liberty55555]

why are you so poisonous ? what you were yesterday has no value to be honest. what you are now and what you can be in near future matters. you can go and take birth in past. if you dont like muslims ... cant help :D

[@mmBharath2024]

At this age, SH should not use words like WhatsApp university as it is really undermining other people. He shouldn’t act like some elite.

[@offred6013]

People without roots and pride in their history often say stupid things

[@Liberty55555]

@@mmBharath2024 so at wht stage should he use it ? You mean this business of making innocent ppl beleive just any shit should not be called out . Because u are part of it ? like u like to take inputs from it and it satisfies your ego. lol

[@Liberty55555]

he should Act Elite meanwhile majority should act chomu lol .

[@prosenjitbanerjee7490]

Print and WIRE r gaining popularity day by day..great debated where one can learn a lot

[@dandmello5283]

❤❤❤❤❤❤ Love you the-printmedia ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ Love frm Bangalore India tooo It was stupendous listening to ShekarGupta... the man The man whose journalistic wisdom is PAR Excellence.. even today Since my childhood days 1980's newspaper editorial journalism ❤❤ The acumen the original style since Doordarshan day's of my childhood days 1980's

[@uditkumar3255]

It should be noted, talk of doctored history by old Indian establishment historians has made its way to the conversation of Vir Sanghvi and Sekhar. I hope one day we see an acceptance from the scholarship of historians wrote those half truths and lies

[@ratishmenon6255]

We definitely could use more of such sessions as Mr Gupta is such a wonderful story teller and boy does he have the stories to tell! Great job facilitating the interview, Vir

[@bonron9921]

Exactly!! some stories he has in his kitty. Also Mr Arun Shourie. Listen to his interview with Karan.

[@manojbd135]

Shekhar by not questioning Vir, perpetrated the myth about freedom of speech not being there in India! And they are trashing the BJP day and night

[@apro009]

Shekhar Gupta is a national treasure.

[@nakulsubramanyam9908]

Despite being a subscriber for almost 3 years I am quite surprised that you couldn’t even extend an invite to your resident subscribers in the city. Your engagement with your subscribers is sorry to say rather hollow & quite superficial.

[@selmabilgrami790]

I have been persuaded to join the Print . Its an amazing platform and so enlightening. It gives a wide view of the happenings in the country without bias

[@ThePrintIndia]

Dear Selma, Thank you for your placing your belief in ThePrint's journalism and for supporting it.

[@VicharB]

This was really interesting and insightful, especially being truthful in front of public and speaking opinion without any bias. Thanks.

[@cyruspatel4428]

Superb!

[@humanentity2214]

Without bias? Your bias radar needs some work.

[@Nothingpersonal56]

Interesting interview! They have articulated some sensitive issues rather well 👍

[@himabratadas1577]

Take pride in your team And keep renewing your knowledge And always know that there are people who are smarter than you SGji is a gem❤

[@nickoliver100]

Amazing conversation please let us have Shaker talk.. his hearts content.. joy to listen to such a 'sulja huva insan' with tons of love from New York

[@babkamath]

Super episode team print and SG, you have created a small issue here which I think is important for you to note. You are creating news and other content that is so good that I cant seem to get enough of your work, thank you. SG you have a talent to say the harshest of things in the most disarming manner , its a pretty awesome quality to have, thanks again and best regards.

[@pranshubhatnagar341]

Shekhar is bang on informative and entertaining, if i may say so, in this chit chat. Shekhar i love you man! You should do this more often. Subscribing the print is worth every paisa!

[@anjalidastur7132]

This was so wonderful. Two great minds coming together. And admire the mutual respect and affection. Thank you for this 🙏

[@MAdhawanPRakash]

SG and print are not neutral as you claim. It was made clear in this talk. And it is also proven through the multitude of anti RSS/BJP articles that the print publishes and then endorsed by SG through Twitter. If you were truly neutral then there's the opportunity to also publish articles describing why India remained a poor country for decades despite abundance of natural and human resources and a winter free climate. You don't describe why it took BJP to build toilets for crores of people. You don't describe why it took nitin gadkari to build some basic roads SG mentions so many intellectual articles he wrote. Can he mention a few articles about why India and crores of Indians remain hungry and poor? Who is primarily responsible for it? What did India or Indians lack ? You don't describe why it took modi to.remind our.people to keep our environment and neighborhoods free from litter It's very clear you are not neutral or centrist. It's obvious you have something to lose if BJP remains in power. Please don't fool people with this facade of centricity if you believe what you yourself say about the intellect of your audience

[@humanentity2214]

​@@MAdhawanPRakashlol true but liberandus don't have very good bias detection radar....

[@barandayiyer5976]

A great talk by Shekhar sir. Thanks to The Print for its non-hyphenated journalism and happy birthday.

[@SudhaKiranGsk]

Want more of this content..! Thank you @theprint for this level of journalism

[@vrishalisonar453]

Here comes Vir Sanghvi talking on leadership. This is intellectual heft of Journalism Shekhar Gupta

[@samhariharan]

This was one of the best "Off the Cuff" spisodes. SG at his best. HIs insights were brilliant, and were delivered with humility and humor. In addition, you got a wonderful sense of all his accomplishments in journalism. Having seen his CTC episodes through the pandemic, I guessed his choice of worst PM (VP Singh), worst general (BM Kaul), strong PMs etc. He and I (and Veer) all were born in 1957 so I feel like a contemprary of his and Veer. I have been critical of SG on some topics in the past taht you can tell he is not comfortable, but when SG is on his turf, he is simply one of the best!

[@docabatra]

43:35 Shekhar Ji was savage from this point onward.. loved the way he put forth the profile of Gen Musharraf.

[@rishiraaj.580]

Nice, Insightful 👍

[@SanjeeviNarasimhan]

Mr Modi has squandered away the enormous power given to him in the form of political majority for putting the country in a true growth trajectory.

[@PraveenJoginipally]

I wish there were 100 more such interviews peppered with interesting stories to make our history relatable. Gupta ji, please consider doing a brain dump of all your stories/anecdotes from your rich work experience. It may take multiple years but will be a treasure trove for folks who value your knowledge, wisdom, reason, and best of all - storytelling chops. I have heard your recounting of the “1984 events”. It’s a masterpiece!

[@sridharsm366]

Overall enjoyed it. And it fully was in tune with my belief both what is good and what is not, for India.. Definitely going to subscribe but I want to see credible next layer of people likes of Sekhar Gupta doing stories and proving their worth as also getting guidance and mentoring.. so that good journalism is still valued. Also, I notice that south in general is getting relegated, sidelined, marginalized slowly in the national overall coverage to everything, Hindi chauvinists want to dominate things..this is not a good thing and people in leadership should be conscious and do things that make it a fair representation of whole country..

[@Jahnu_Shambu]

Pranoy Roy, Appan Menon, Vinod Dua, etc. along with The Hindu people were inclined more towards left in comparison with the Arun poori, Shekar, etc. who were considered somewhat centrists during the Rajiv Gandhi and Narasimha Rao's period. Later all of these people merged into one single big group during Vajpayee's times. Later some of these people were unnecessarily became agents of the Anti India campaigns - like Pranoy, Barkha, Rajdeep, Karan, and so on. Now many of these (some are journalists and some are agents) people have lost their respect even among intellectual audiences in India. Shekar Gupta somehow corrected the course and became once again moving towards the Centrist. Therefore SG's Cut the Clutter is surprisingly in the center.

[@onlytruthissupreme7541]

The teacher in question did not do this silly thing first time.She has been doing this for quite sometimes.Only difference this time was that the student at the receiving end was from minority community and the so called liberal but hypocrite media and opposition leaders sensed an opportunity to defame BJP/Modi/Yogi and painted the routine incident as a communal one.

[@shashankjha8851]

She literally talks about "Mohammedans" in the video. How is that not hate mongering?

[@krish-3225]

Two days later a Hindu boy wás beaten by some Mullas in a madrassa for writing on the wall something pro national or pro Hindu. That wasn't reported by "secular" media except Times Now. I think the Left oriented media are hypocrites.

[@AjaySharma-me1sy]

I am impressed by both the people on-stage and off-stage here. It was quite a discussion, and I laughed well at many of the jokes despite how lame they may sound to the average young listener.

[@Aarpaar0430]

Dynasties - the extent to which we find in India, are possible because of the ticket system. That is one of the main reasons. The rich and connected reward each other. The tribal - jaat, caste, biradari, clan, mentality is another factor. The electorate - the majority, are apathetic and think it is someone else’s responsibility. The net result is that these dynasties have extracted billions for themselves.

[@dandmello5283]

Great Great greatly enjoyed to this episode by our own Shekarji ❤

[@jess-qe5ed]

Shekhar is a good story teller, he should write a political movie script.

[@Email-mu1mv]

In Loksatta Marathi edition of Indian Express, भारत is used for India. Loksatta is not sanghi when it uses भारत for India.

[@gaunikarora5157]

So refreshing to see SG so blunt and undiplomatic unlike CTC videos.

[@ayushchauhan8445]

GREAT SESSION!

[@kusumjagtiani6680]

Thx for a super interview conducted superbly by you Mr. Sanghvi . I am a great admirer of your style of conducting interviews since it rests primarily on the questions asked & the finesse used. Mr. Gupta was a font of news & stories which was enlightening It was very interesting . Thx again.

[@ravisojha1]

very nice gesture by SG introducing Roli

[@raghurampillarisetty7529]

Two journalists debating about the leadership of the Country. Joke 😅

[@brijeshpanwar5977]

Wonderful, insightful, informative and so interesting! This was the best OTC I have ever watched.

[@savitanaik4680]

Good discussion. One correction though! It was health minister Mansukh Mandaviya who spelt strength incorrect. Shri Narendra Modi didn't & won't make such a mistake. Please check the facts b4 commenting.😮

[@BharatThatIsIndia]

On Chandrayan, I really agree with Shekhar ji. It is a great achievement and we should feel happy about it. But it is a gradual process..

[@tarzan40005]

Excellent. Thanks

[@harikn8684]

Thanks

[@ThePrintIndia]

Dear Hari, Thank you for contributing to ThePrint's journalism.

[@sudiptaraxit3778]

Gupta-ji is a complex character.

[@madankulkarni1715]

SG: You are selling your idea of dynast. Its not father & son relation or becoming a minister or two. Its about entitlement of controlling entire party since generations by a single family members. Does your political wisdom allow you to comapre names you taken with Gandhis, Singhs, Yadavs , Pawars & South Dynasts ?

[@skjailkhani1]

I sat down for a program of delving into the life and times of Shekhar Gupta. It turns out to be a BJP bashing session in s friendly Karnataka state.

[@ashishb]

Nira Radia gang

[@ramboshreesh]

vir's voice is soo soothing and comforting to a level its disturbing.

[@sundershetty2759]

You blame left historian for twisting and lying about history. What about journalism which you people provided under past political blessings. It is easy to blame others, Jara kudhke garebaan mein jakhiyae sir. Today because of internet people just don't buy what you write weather it is Vir Sandhvi or Shekhar Gupta

[@archana4886]

# Chandrayaan-3, When journalists pass opinion so casually (especially after confiding having lack of technical knowledge himself ) listen from one ear and leave from another 😅

[@alokpandey9532]

Mr Shekhar Gupta, tears for Chandrayan landing were because of making Indians realize that we are capable of extraordinary feat. Otherwise we know that we still have miles to go! Khan market conversations are really interesting to listen to!

[@DataCrusade1999]

But does Chandryaan 3 give you the right to denigrate NASA and USA accomplishments in space?? It's a simple yes or no question if you try to explain or say anything other than 'yes' and 'no' I'll take that as a 'yes' and make the argument that you have a right to denigrate USA and NASA's accomplishments in space.

[@alokpandey9532]

@@DataCrusade1999 abe leftist ki aulad, kaon denigrade kar raha hai be???

[@shashankjha8851]

So easy to call this a "Khan Market conversation" and overlook the context he said this in. He himself said it's a proud moment, it's just that the US has reached the heights of space and extra terrestrial exploration so one needs to respect NASA as well. Being proud is one thing, chest thumping and calling the entire west running a propaganda against India is another.

[@alokpandey9532]

@@shashankjha8851 tu Jaa na Nasa bhadhai dene... Jinko Chandrayan pe shush hona hai unhe hone de na leftist

[@TheBhoomiPutra]

Can anyone compile the anti Indira press clippings of the 70s? And compare them with the press clips of last 10 years. Criticism itself, of any sort seems absent nowadays. Even old tigers have gone silent.

[@rock120383]

Thanks so much both perfect talks on leadership

[@NarendraKumar-hq5bv]

Leaders must have big heart.. Leaders must have a great team. Leaders must also delegate, and let himself be challenged. Nice points here.

[@NarendraKumar-hq5bv]

Modi and current politicians have none of these qualities.

[@MrAntonysimon]

Leaders should not be wicked, cruel, communal and lying.

[@MADE_IN_PANJAB]

Pushing an agenda beautifully

[@Ninjashank]

The difference between Pakistan version of bharat and india's version is: india calls the larger india+pak as bharat, while Pakistan calls the split version.

[@MsVijayaraghavan]

Wonderful…..enjoyed the nuggets shared by Sekhar Gupta

[@sharabhpachory9810]

An engrossing conversation between two most respected senior journalists! Most enjoyable. Thank you both. It however throws up a conundrum which has been bothering me lately. Do our political netas, from councillors, legislative assembly members to parliamentarians, through our long political history show any of the leadership attributes/traits/characteristics as classically defined? Barring a few, how many have important leadership traits like integrity, courage, initiative, leading by example, knowledge, compassion, sense of humour...the list is long? We know how most are elected through caste dynamics, social engineering, dynasic connections etc. Should they therefore be called leaders at all? Would it not be more prudent to call them 'people's representatives', 'legislators', 'sevaks' or by any other suitable epithet? Would appreciate a response from either of you. Thanks and regards

[@subhrangsudutta8029]

With all due respects, both are hard nut to Crack but the Chief Editor is having additional strength, Sirs 🙏🙏

[@srirampanigrahy7596]

I miss Vir Sanghvi, SUNDAY & my growing up years.

[@megda1000]

Sir, why don't you talk about Kathua Muslim teacher thrashing Hindu boy for writing Jai Shree Ram......why so much bias.....but still I love your reporting generally but here its wrong

[@Interstellar2123]

No human has gone to moon....truth will come out someday

[@soumimukherjee6748]

Excellent…awesome discussion

[@owls077]

Got to watch the entire conversation now. I have a question for both of you - India without Modi and BJP without Modi? Since Shekhar finds Modi one of the smartest politicians India has ever had. This would be his last term. Post Modi how would BJP as a party perform? Be it anything this party can't take a decision without Modi. Or it's too difficult to predict anything in politics?

[@vedbhavsar8499]

Great observation about chandrayan mission euphoria.

[@SunilMehtanim1]

This is an excellent interview. Most enjoyable and informative based on real life experiences of this veteran journalist, Shekhar Gupta

[@jayanthjayaprakashjj4796]

The Print is credible, especially as it's headed by Shekhar.

[@1310satishng]

Yes, Vir Sanghvi immensely adds to the credibility

[@dandmello5283]

Gems are GEMS... the lovely.. Yesterday today's and forever

[@amarjittalukdar1967]

As long as Indians are swayed by charisma rather than content; there's bound to be trouble.

[@saradaramsatyavada4943]

The conversation being done in Benguluru because of the narrative set forth in this interview looks like …..hope Deepika Padukone and Prakash Raj are in the front row ! Hopefully , Mr. Shekar Gupta didn’t forget the king Bharatha !

[@vikasnarayanan6711]

Bharat is not a Pakistani description. Its an Indic description.

[@mohba01]

Bharat is not a Pakistani nomenclature nor is it a BJP given name to India that's celebrated, our constitution literally starts with the sentance, 'india that is bharat....' , as a senior journalist I think your logic was pretty flawed there !

[@shantanushah6924]

No Volume Please fix it

[@Life.is.a.library]

Just as I saw Vir Sanghvi, that tape of nira radia and him started playing in the back of my head. I didnt know that he is still around in the media circle, its just like A. Raja's return in parliament, well what to expect from a country where more than half of the people do not care about such issues, as they have bigger concern of not to die with hunger and other half tend to forget so quickly. Im not going to say anything on our judicial system😑

[@kalyansubramani7076]

Yes, by American standards of achievement, our moon success has come quite late. But here is the difference between US' and India's space mission. One, Nasa was built by scientists from Nazi Germany led by Wernher von Braun. This happened as soon as world war 2 ended under "Operation Paperclip," It is a well known fact that the entire moon mission was conceived and built by Braun and his German colleagues and American's off course. India's mission was built and executed by Indians, born in India and educated and trained in India. Two, I know this sounds a bit silly, but America's moon mission came nearly two centuries after becoming free, India's in less than eight decades after our Independence. Three, America was already a superpower when it sent a moon mission. India is still not. The financial might is not even remotely comparable. GDP wise, America is five times as big as India and per capita is around 25x more than India's. So, please give India a little more credit please.

[@bsingh08]

Conversation, like certain portions of the anatomy, always runs more smoothly when lubricated ! Thank you both of you 🥂🥂

[@jrpethe]

Sorry to see this reputed journalist so biased