The Cranberries, Zombie - A Classical Musician’s First Listen and Analysis

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@olibird6920
@olibird6920 4 күн бұрын
As an Irish person, it's impossible to overstate how much this encapsulated the soul of our nation when it was released. It was the voice of a country shouting "Not in My Name" That's why it's become an anthem for the Irish national team in the wake of her death - it's not the topic, but it's the quintessentially representative nature of the piece.
@IanMatthewsuk
@IanMatthewsuk 4 күн бұрын
Absolutely
@PanglossDr
@PanglossDr 3 күн бұрын
It proved very well the old saying 'one death in England is worth 1,000 in Ireland. 3,000 died in Northern Ireland. Two boys die in England and the world goes mad. In a way I find the song deeply hypocritical.
@ingobordewick6480
@ingobordewick6480 3 күн бұрын
Well said! Greets from Germany, from a huge fan... RIP Dolores, rose of Ireland.
@richards2920
@richards2920 3 күн бұрын
Rubbish, the song is pure gibberish
@ingobordewick6480
@ingobordewick6480 3 күн бұрын
@richards2920 😂😂😂
@beautifulhand1011
@beautifulhand1011 8 күн бұрын
The Warrington bombing killed Matthew Parry aged 12 and Johnathan Ball aged 3, absolutely tragic and the song is about the undeserved shame that Dolores felt, the song is much darker and heavier than any of their previous work. The troubles were a terrible time with plenty of injustice on both sides. Excellent analysis as ever, I would recommend Dreams and Linger as a comparison for earlier Cranberries music
@Marnee4191
@Marnee4191 4 күн бұрын
I agree with those recommendations for next listens. I would also add "How".
@WayneKitching
@WayneKitching 4 күн бұрын
I remember at the time that this song was quite a shock, as the earlier Cranberries songs were so pretty and gentle, but Zombie sounded almost like The Smashing Pumpkins.
@WayneKitching
@WayneKitching 4 күн бұрын
Is the a shortened version? I'm missing the outtro guitar solo with the repeated snare drums sounding like gunshots.
@michaeltaylor8835
@michaeltaylor8835 4 күн бұрын
They silenced her
@IanMatthewsuk
@IanMatthewsuk 4 күн бұрын
@@WayneKitchingyes. It’s the radio edit. The Video and Album versions have a longer instrumental section after Dolores’s keening cry.
@noother964
@noother964 3 күн бұрын
The music video is a masterpiece on its own. Well worth watching.
@DavidLindes
@DavidLindes 3 күн бұрын
strong agree. :)
@carriepybus8929
@carriepybus8929 3 күн бұрын
Yes, with the 2018 Cover done by the Bad Wolves.
@bryanobrien2726
@bryanobrien2726 2 күн бұрын
It's difficult to get the full impact of the song without seeing the video .
@carriepybus8929
@carriepybus8929 2 күн бұрын
@@bryanobrien2726 Indeed!
@noother964
@noother964 2 күн бұрын
@@bryanobrien2726 You're right, they compliment each other in a very impactful way. One of those rare video clip moments -reminds me of Johnny Cash's Hurt.
@johncoad66
@johncoad66 4 күн бұрын
Sadness expressed throughout is enhanced by the singing style called keening. Very Irish. Very touching
@WastrelWay
@WastrelWay 4 күн бұрын
Yes. "Keening" imitates the crying at a funeral in a song. Awesome. I have always loved this song.
@TequilaDave
@TequilaDave 3 күн бұрын
I'm glad when someone posts what I was going to say, saves me having to comment! 🙂
@PanglossDr
@PanglossDr 3 күн бұрын
Keening has nothing to do with singing. Have you ever heard it?
@PanglossDr
@PanglossDr 3 күн бұрын
@@WastrelWay Yes, crying, not singing.
@carriepybus8929
@carriepybus8929 3 күн бұрын
I love the keening in this song. It's great in many but wow this song.
@t.a.k.palfrey3882
@t.a.k.palfrey3882 3 күн бұрын
As a musician myself, I enjoy that you focus entirely on the composition and performance, without the distraction of the accommpaning video. On rare occasions, however, the video has become part and parcel of the song itself. Zombie is one of those.
@brianboye8025
@brianboye8025 3 күн бұрын
My comment as well.
@robertcampomizzi7988
@robertcampomizzi7988 2 күн бұрын
I whole heartedly concur!
@kantpredict
@kantpredict 2 күн бұрын
The video producer had to tell people that he was making a documentary, not a music video, because they were filming in an active combat zone and the soldiers wanted to know why they were there.
@stamfordly6463
@stamfordly6463 Күн бұрын
I dunno... it was the 10:30 song on the SU Bar jukebox when I was a student, regular as clockwork, and I don't think I saw the video until years later but it stuck with me.
@stamfordly6463
@stamfordly6463 Күн бұрын
@@kantpredict I've heard that but I'm not sure just how true it is, I don't think that anywhere in early '90s NI was exactly an "active combat zone" as it had been earlier but it was quite tense in places with the odd outbreak of violence. I think it's more likely that they had to get permission from the police and a police or army escort to film in certain places because film crews could draw attention (although of course the BBC and ITV in NI regularly made programmes throughout the Troubles). I certainly don't think all the bits with the actor dressed as a soldier were shot on the same location, it would have been a Health and Safety nightmare.
@laraismyname821
@laraismyname821 4 күн бұрын
The music video for this song was really powerful. It hits you right in the gut.
@nigeltown6999
@nigeltown6999 4 күн бұрын
It is rare that a song, a performance and a video work so powerfully together, to present "something" that cannot be anything like a powerful without all three elements played together...
@brianboye8025
@brianboye8025 3 күн бұрын
Many voice reactors don't see how powerful the images are. I can't not see the visceral visual meaning.
@VictorPM1550
@VictorPM1550 4 күн бұрын
Oh no! You picked the short radio-edit version. With an audible cut at 11:14 min. into your video. One minute of insrumental music, featuring Dolores herself on guitar is cut out. Also, this version wasn't even available in the shops where I live. All CD-singles had the 5 min. album version. The intense video of this song has the full album version as well, you should see it.
@StevenTavani
@StevenTavani 3 күн бұрын
Yes! This shorter version lacks the same punch as the LP version.
@CaseAgainstFaith1
@CaseAgainstFaith1 3 күн бұрын
I didn’t know there was a radio edit version, so when I heard this, I thought something seemed missing. Now I understand what is missing.
@bridgetmccracken1381
@bridgetmccracken1381 3 күн бұрын
Her use of keening which is a mournful wailing that was used at funerals is perfect as this song is about the death of 2 children. The video is very powerful as well
@3DJapan
@3DJapan 3 күн бұрын
True but she doesn't just use it in this song, many of her other songs too.
@bridgetmccracken1381
@bridgetmccracken1381 3 күн бұрын
@@3DJapan true but since she was reacting to this song I thought it was important to keep the comment about this song
@dougcortes6567
@dougcortes6567 Күн бұрын
@@bridgetmccracken1381 LOVE your name. Hope it’s yours and not made up. Either way, it’s fantastic!
@bridgetmccracken1381
@bridgetmccracken1381 Күн бұрын
@@dougcortes6567 Thank you and it is indeed my real name
@generichuman2044
@generichuman2044 4 күн бұрын
That haunting voice always produces a tear in my eye. The emotion and tone of the song is perfect for the subject. It sounds like a heartbroken mother pouring her heart out to you. Genius work
@shmick6079
@shmick6079 3 күн бұрын
This is one rare example where it’s really worth watching the music video, which enhances the power of the message. Incredibly emotional, beautiful, upsetting and brilliant.
@Grautvornix07
@Grautvornix07 8 күн бұрын
I've listened to this song a thousand times and it drives me to tears every time. Your analysis adds another level of appreciation to the piece. You are absolutely right it's the tenderness in the middle of anger and destruction which makes it so special.
@patrickderose9712
@patrickderose9712 3 күн бұрын
Amy, excellent dissection of this iconic song. The anger that underlies the tenderness of her voice is palpable. Delores O’Riordan was the most Irish of the Irish rock singers. Her use of keening is so natural and unforced and conveys the grief that makes this song so powerful.
@adamr149
@adamr149 2 күн бұрын
More Irish than Shane McGowan??
@michaelmueller8772
@michaelmueller8772 2 күн бұрын
@@adamr149 Or Sinead O'Connor?
@herbertwest9626
@herbertwest9626 2 күн бұрын
​@@michaelmueller8772Definitely more Irish than S. O'Connor. Dolores cared about her music, the people around her and her country. Mrs. O'Connor was more of a one hit wonder who was more interested in her little scandals and how they reflected in the yellow press.
@michaelrstover
@michaelrstover 4 күн бұрын
Rage and heartbreaking sorrow expressed simultaneously in a voice.
@laryone
@laryone 3 күн бұрын
I'm from Ireland, but not Ulster, where most of the violence took place. Still, I grep up with the news of bombings and shootings on a near constant basis. This is a song that I still haven't really processed or come to terms with yet, despite having listened to it hundreds of times over the decades. It's made me well up in tears, it's made me incredibly angry, I've loved it and hated it. It's a song that is relatable, but problematic in a lot of ways too. I've resented it, and the way that it framed reactions to what was happening. I've understood it in different ways with differing points of view. So yea, complicated feelings on this one. It's really refreshing to hear the perspective of someone who's coming to it with fresh ears and without all the baggage and I'm grateful. It is a beautiful piece of music, and your reaction to it definitely shows it in a light I've never seen before. Thank you for this.
@hansemannluchter643
@hansemannluchter643 3 күн бұрын
Go on home British Soldiers Go on home Have you got no f-ing homes of your own For 800 years we've fought you without fear And we will fight you for 800 more...
@Gwennedd
@Gwennedd Күн бұрын
Same. I grew up in Wales during the early years and was in Dublin for four years in my mid childhood. I had family in Belfast and we'd hear news of terrible incidences going on quite often. One thing that stayed with me...that my Uncle and Aunt lived next door to a police officer and every morning, that officer would have to go out and check over his car and underneath it with a mounted mirror. He had to check for bombs before he could open the car door and start the vehicle. Too many police and politicians died from car bombings during that time.
@stanchase9705
@stanchase9705 4 күн бұрын
Sometimes, you don't need to see the music video. However, with this song, you REALLY NEED to see the music video to get the full, gut-wrenching effect.
@charliewilliams3860
@charliewilliams3860 3 күн бұрын
This song will never not bring me to tears. Growing up with it all over the news, it was impossible not to be affected.
@Ehud1513
@Ehud1513 4 күн бұрын
This is one of those songs that still gives me chills even after hundreds of listens.
@cheampeake1680
@cheampeake1680 3 күн бұрын
Full body goosebumps, shivers and welling tears 5 seconds into this song.
@paranormalinpdx
@paranormalinpdx 4 күн бұрын
RIP Dolores. She is missed. Er keening still gives me chills. This song still pulls me back to the 90s and the feeling I had when I first heard it. It is so powerful.
@bwcbiz
@bwcbiz 3 күн бұрын
I always thought that "their tanks and their bombs" referred to the British Army while "Their bombs and their guns" referred to the IRA. And the zombies continue violence for violence's sake, when their original goals are no longer relevant or achievable.
@michaelflynn458
@michaelflynn458 3 күн бұрын
Nailed it!
@Shawn-mo6dh
@Shawn-mo6dh 3 күн бұрын
Exactly 💯👊✌️
@caylem00
@caylem00 2 күн бұрын
it's also a reference to the bombing where the children died had two smaller bombs - the initial one didn't kill anyone, but drove the fleeing crowds into the path of the second bomb. its a quite common tactic as its terribly effective - the second bomb gets first responders/helpers for the first bomb
@RaiderWing
@RaiderWing Күн бұрын
Pretty much. The song is NOT just about the bombing in England, and it’s certainly not about taking any sides in the conflict. That’s the mistake many make. It is what inspired her to write the song, but the lyrics themselves are about the entire conflict being bred into Northern Irish culture, and how it had become a circle of destruction for everyone. Catholics, Protestants, the Brits and the Irish Republic. How all sides kept destroying the next generation, over and over again. The video shows as much Protestant symbolism as it does Irish Nationalism. It’s NOT just an anti-IRA song though. It’s an anti IRA, INLA, UDA, UFF, UVF, SAS, MI5 and the British Government song. The hate still remains in many ways. There’s more walls separating communities today, than there were during The Troubles. The song is against the hatred that has kept repeating itself for the last 800 years. At least now, the two sides are somewhat able to speak with each other and coexist. It ended when the people had finally had enough, and chose peaceful means instead. The song is blaming everyone involved. That peace that came in the late 90s is still very fragile. It’s going to take a few generations to trust each other, but at least the people in the North of Ireland, are giving non conflict a chance.
@soundofnellody262
@soundofnellody262 4 күн бұрын
Zombie is such an important song and Dolores the perfect voice for it. May she rest in peace
@SirWussiePants
@SirWussiePants 4 күн бұрын
To me this song combines sadness and anger perfectly.
@pureblood1966firehorse
@pureblood1966firehorse 3 күн бұрын
When the Violence causes Silence, We must be Mistaken. Gets me Every time, Who Knew i needed a Cry?
@stevenbergom3415
@stevenbergom3415 4 күн бұрын
This is one of the songs I listen to when the hair on my arms needs exercise.
@philwatson-g8b
@philwatson-g8b 4 күн бұрын
To expand on other comments about this becoming a stadium anthem for the Irish (rugby union) team. Note that the team is usually comprised of players from both North and South of the border. I find that very humbling given the history of the place.
@michaelflynn458
@michaelflynn458 3 күн бұрын
Right. They don't use the actual National Anthem of either country - for reasons that Irish people around the world understand; for others, your mileage may vary.
@peterzimmer9549
@peterzimmer9549 4 күн бұрын
She’s keening. Keening is the traditional Gaelic lamenting for the dead.
@JBEEUD
@JBEEUD 4 күн бұрын
I've always gotten the feeling of it being someone who is teetering on the edge between bottomless sadness and unquenchable rage. Slowly, but suddenly snapping back amd forth between the two. The sadness that a terrible tragedy happened, and a rage that doesn't care who did it or why, only that it happened at all, and should now never happen again.
@alantanaka6957
@alantanaka6957 3 күн бұрын
RIP Delores O'Riordan. She never hid her accent and that what makes their music unique
@AdeboFunkyVoodoo
@AdeboFunkyVoodoo Күн бұрын
Was lucky enough to see them live in their prime. Zombie is just a magnificent, powerful and moving commentary. Rest in peace Dolores.
@Marnee4191
@Marnee4191 4 күн бұрын
I just started this video, and am here to say I'm giddy in anticipation. I've never thought of myself as a huge Cranberries fan, yet every time one of their songs came up, I always loved it. I started learning drums two years ago, and this song was - I believe - the third song I learned end-to-end - badly since I'm a beginner. (3rd or 4th song). I never noticed how much texture and creativity went into the drums in this until I learned the part. I will never get tired of playing it on the drums. I will never get tired of listening to this song. And now, on to the show!
@moi01887
@moi01887 3 күн бұрын
This song is a perfect compliment to "Brothers in arms" by Dire Straits.
@wallacerose8663
@wallacerose8663 3 күн бұрын
Amy's dissection of Brothers in Arms is what introduced me to this channel many months ago. Another fantastic emotionally-driven track.
@luvstellauk
@luvstellauk 4 күн бұрын
I've always take "the silence" to mean people knowing who did it but are not willing to say and "it's not me, not my family" as people who support the action but then distance themselves from it.
@moi01887
@moi01887 3 күн бұрын
Supporting the action, but not wanting to accept the consequences that go with it.
@chadeagle9707
@chadeagle9707 3 күн бұрын
Big fan. First time commenting ever. Delores was a tortured soul that is beloved by many. She passed at an early age. For some reason I get choked up whenever I here her sing. I was more a metal head back then but the Cranberries touch me. Her voice. On many occasions I described her voice as what i imagined angels singing to the Lord would sound like. Her death hurt me for some reason. I liked your reaction and analysis.
@danielbarnes7707
@danielbarnes7707 3 күн бұрын
I love it when the regional accent is sung, as Dolores always did. Catatonia is another band whose singer sings with an accent, Welsh in that case
@stamfordly6463
@stamfordly6463 Күн бұрын
Space often sang with a distinct Scouse twang as I recall.
@pietrodiiorio532
@pietrodiiorio532 4 күн бұрын
one of the most beautiful female voices ever in the rock world.
@seanmcmichael2551
@seanmcmichael2551 4 күн бұрын
To add to Cranberries requests .... More melancholic numbers. Ode to My Family ... and When You're Gone, which, on the morning of Dolores' funeral, played on simultaneous broadcast on all of Ireland's main radio stations.
@michaelb1761
@michaelb1761 4 күн бұрын
Ode to My Family is probably my favorite by them.
@andrewboland1062
@andrewboland1062 3 күн бұрын
Them songs are beautiful aswell the music videos too
@eirintowne
@eirintowne 3 күн бұрын
"Afterwards, nothing is heard. Nothing. And it resounds" Nils Aslak Valkeapää Thank you for the thoroughness with which you analysed this hard hitting live song to peace, showcasing how to engage the full brain rather than give in to thoughtlessness!
@philshorten3221
@philshorten3221 3 күн бұрын
This just made my day! A rare case of using the word "awesome" to describe a vocal is warranted.
@RxLush
@RxLush 3 күн бұрын
RIP Dolores. At least your pain has ended
@JohnHazelwood58
@JohnHazelwood58 3 күн бұрын
I can't listen to this song without crying! *rip
@kyosuke423
@kyosuke423 4 күн бұрын
This is one of the few songs where the video makes it 1000X more impactful. 100% you need to react to that 😭
@newrandomguy4218
@newrandomguy4218 3 күн бұрын
And the guy who gave that song to her should know that.
@geopapa80
@geopapa80 4 күн бұрын
One of these songs that never get old. But where is the guitar solo?. "Linger", "Ode to my family", "Dreams", "I can't be with you" also absolute Cranberries musts . 90s musts I'd dare say
@dart336
@dart336 4 күн бұрын
The tanks and guns rhyme is a reference to "Johnny We Hardly Knew Ye" a 1867 song about a veteran who comes home disabled from the pointless 1818 Sir Lankan war. Which is it's a parody of the slightly older American Patriotic song "When Johnny Comes Marching Home" about the desire of Civil War veterans to return home whenever the conflict would end. Written by an Irish Warrant Officer in the Union Army. "We Hardly Knew Ye" oppositely was written to protest the recruitment of Irishmen for British Wars.
@Czeiner
@Czeiner 8 күн бұрын
I love listening to your analysis of the lyrics of this amazing piece of music! I'll never get tired of listening to "Zombie" by "The Cranberries".
@lisar6510
@lisar6510 4 күн бұрын
❤ The Cranberries try listening to the song linger
@michaelb1761
@michaelb1761 4 күн бұрын
In any long-running war, if you ask either side why they are fighting, it usually boils down to they aren't one of us. The original reasons become secondary or even completely forgotten. We become unthinking zombies who do what we do because that's what we do.
@esalehtismaki
@esalehtismaki 3 күн бұрын
I didn't get this when this came. Luckily now I do.
@edgarsnake2857
@edgarsnake2857 4 күн бұрын
Great song with a truly original performance by O'Riordan. Loved your thoughtful reaction.
@annereidy7981
@annereidy7981 4 күн бұрын
Thank you, that was an engaged and insightful reaction, to a deep expression of her pain at those deaths. We miss her.
@pabloortizdelatorre3530
@pabloortizdelatorre3530 4 күн бұрын
"Sunday Bloody Sunday" (U2) is another example of a protest song. In this case, relating to an event that occurred in Northern Ireland in 1972.
@hansemannluchter643
@hansemannluchter643 3 күн бұрын
"This is NOT a Rebel-song"... OK, Pope Bono.
@frankanderson5012
@frankanderson5012 2 күн бұрын
Except one is a protest to the senseless violence on both sides and the other against one side only. Even Bono came around and toned down the original theme of that song. Dolores wasn’t mainstream in her outright opinion at the time and in my opinion, very brave for writing such a song.
@hansemannluchter643
@hansemannluchter643 2 күн бұрын
@@frankanderson5012 Ireland belongs to the Irish! Not the Brits.
@daldroflas
@daldroflas 4 күн бұрын
An amazingly powerful and beautiful song. The official video is really worth watching as it adds so much more.
@Emilaria
@Emilaria 3 күн бұрын
I love their song Dreams.
@BorisMinkov
@BorisMinkov 3 күн бұрын
Thank you, a lovely reaction as always!
@rishnot16
@rishnot16 4 күн бұрын
The lead singer DOLORES was absolutely gem of a singer who poured all her emotions into her songs.
@Marnee4191
@Marnee4191 4 күн бұрын
Lovely, interesting analysis. I love your descriptor, "eloquent". I've said it before, and will say it again, that you get more out of a first listen than I do on the 500th listen! A recommendation for a next song by them is "How".
@cristianovia
@cristianovia 4 күн бұрын
One of my favorite bands, they have many great hits. U2 have also written loads of great protest song that are worth analyzing. Generally I would love that you dig deeper on 90's European rock such as The Verve, Björk, Cardigans
@refnar8772
@refnar8772 4 күн бұрын
A song that never gets old! Thanks for your reaction to this special song
@Tijuanabill
@Tijuanabill 4 күн бұрын
You will never convince me that this didn't at least help end The Troubles.
@marthajean50
@marthajean50 4 күн бұрын
I bet you're right. I think artists have a way of bringing to the surface what's just about ready to break through in people because they're so tuned into feelings and communicate new thoughts/feelings clearly first. Then as the piece has an awakening/galvanizing effect on them, it becomes a unifying rallying point.
@herbertwest9626
@herbertwest9626 3 күн бұрын
The Troubles ended? Not in the heads of some people, believe me.
@marthajean50
@marthajean50 3 күн бұрын
@@herbertwest9626 Not sure anything really ever ends in the sense that it's 100% gone in every way. But for a certain value of the term *end*, I think it's fair enough to say.
@davidward2651
@davidward2651 4 күн бұрын
Stadium anthem in this case means a song that does well with the crowd in a stadium-type venue on tour. The type of song that a big crowd will get excited about and want to sing along with.
@catsara9114
@catsara9114 3 күн бұрын
This song embodies mourning for me.
@ticnatz
@ticnatz 4 күн бұрын
1916 is critical to understnding this tune...
@RushfanUK
@RushfanUK 4 күн бұрын
No the Warrington bombings and the indiscriminate killings of Matthew Parry and Johnathan Ball are critical to understanding this song.
@kevinmaher3662
@kevinmaher3662 4 күн бұрын
​@@RushfanUKBoth are
@ticnatz
@ticnatz 4 күн бұрын
@@RushfanUK Those as well. 1916 is referenced because of Michael Collins...
@BeeGeenie
@BeeGeenie 3 күн бұрын
​​@@RushfanUK Part of the point of the song is that if it weren't for 1916, there wouldn't have been a Warrington bombing. A cycle of violence infecting new generations is what makes new zombies. The bombers acted because they couldn't let go of the past and the violence that was... In their heads.
@donutnawzi
@donutnawzi 2 күн бұрын
Love the cranberries. One of my favorite bands. Her voice cannot be replicated. Truly one of a kind. I would love to have you listen to Lindsey Stirling.
@LeeKennison
@LeeKennison 4 күн бұрын
Great reaction and commentary Amy to a good Cranberries song, I enjoyed this one. Dolores does sound Irish to me on this one, although her voice and vocal techniques also remind me of Alanis Morissette, who is Canadian. The band you were trying to think of was Megadeth. Dave Mustaine, their lead singer and one of their two guitarist, was the one that got them in trouble during the Troubles in Northern Ireland. Dave was also in Metallica prior to Megadeth. U2 is the most famous Irish Band that addressed this conflict in their song "Sunday Bloody Sunday."
@spencerkieft6021
@spencerkieft6021 4 күн бұрын
12:42 Coincidentally, the Cranberries also have a protest song called Bosnia. It includes an orchestral accompaniment so you might enjoy it.
@justinhephner2117
@justinhephner2117 4 күн бұрын
Dolores death was one of the great tragedies in the music industry of the last 30 years
@TracyMorris13
@TracyMorris13 3 күн бұрын
I was 15 when we visited Ireland in 1981 to see where my family came from…we travelled across from Wales to Waterford, Cork, Killarney and onto Limerick. Whilst in Limerick the streets were filled with people and tables for signing petitions in support of the hunger strikes going on in Maze prison. I was both horrified and fascinated when my father explained what was going on. There was a tension and anger there and we were conscious of not speaking in case we attracted attention and moved through the streets very swiftly. Such weird times…feels a lifetime away…
@langdalepaul
@langdalepaul 3 күн бұрын
That’s interesting, as I visited the same places in 1971, when I was five. It was just about the time when the Troubles started flaring up again. I was too young to understand the politics, and I have no memory of experiencing any hostility, but I do remember people being surprised, when we came back, that we had chosen Ireland as a holiday destination.
@neillenet291
@neillenet291 4 күн бұрын
Delores O'Riordan had such a beautiful, ethereal voice.
@PhillS303
@PhillS303 4 күн бұрын
As one of the other comments suggests, Dolores was (I think) very much Irish, in favour of Irish unification and opposed to the british presence in Ireland. The song is addressed to her 'side' to say "I don't like what you're doing in our name". Which is why it is mostly adressed as "you" rather than "they" : she's talking to her own Irish community.. The use of "they" in the song is in reference to the british particularly in the post 1916 Irish uprising. The use of rhyme you mention is also a feature of Irish and Welsh poetry : there is much more use of internal rhymes within lines, rather than on the end of each line.
@marthajean50
@marthajean50 4 күн бұрын
Thanks for the insight on that. It helped me with understanding the underlying perspective a lot more.
@Xiroi87
@Xiroi87 3 күн бұрын
@PhillS303 that use of rhyme is inherent to poetry in any language, but I understand you probably only speak English and aren't familiar with poetry in other languages.
@JNobleDaggett
@JNobleDaggett 3 күн бұрын
Some of the they is her own "side" fighting in her name. I think she's telling her own side to stop fighting something from 1916. Or enough of this eye for an eye stuff that leaves the whole world blind. Stop pretending that the bombings are being done in my name.
@M_M_ODonnell
@M_M_ODonnell Күн бұрын
@@Xiroi87 No, rhyme isn't universal in poetry. Quite a number of language have (and have had historically) other structural patterns in poetry (involving consonance, rhythm, tone patterns, or whatever supports creative use of the language in question). Taking for granted that the poetry of _all_ languages uses rhyme is spectacularly ignorant. (Just a short list -- Japanese and Korean poetry use elements of sound other than rhyme, classical Greek and Latin poetry usually didn't rhyme, Hebrew poetry only adopted rhyme later, and even English didn't emphasize rhyme over other poetic patterns until later, possibly under the influence of Irish and Welsh.)
@notthistimenet
@notthistimenet 4 күн бұрын
I imagine Delores is playing the part of a mother who has lost children in the Troubles, giving her narration in criticism of the people involved.
@reddymon
@reddymon 3 күн бұрын
This song has long had an emotional impact for me. I may shed a tear. This time before the song even started I broke down weeping. I think it is because of the state of the world right now. Since this song was composed the world has become an even harsher and nonsensical violent place. People dying by the thousands for no valid reason. Will we ever learn?
@Local11-m9r
@Local11-m9r 4 күн бұрын
Delores O'Riordan was a vocal God. RIP. Makes me tear up every time I hear that song.
@MarcusSchuff
@MarcusSchuff 4 күн бұрын
I love this song. It is a timeless classic. A band called, "Bad Wolves" did a tribute cover of this song when Cranberries' singer Dolores O'Riordan passed away before she could reprise this song with Bad Wolves. Here' the link to listen: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b4nEhGxpjLKFh7Msi=GIO-1LwpkWm2Cwzf
@Stube36
@Stube36 3 күн бұрын
R.I.P. Dolores😔😔😔
@countfrankleton
@countfrankleton Күн бұрын
You make sense. Thank you for being so open to the world and sharing your self.
@robertcampomizzi7988
@robertcampomizzi7988 2 күн бұрын
The Irish have a tradition called keening that is an aspect of her singing in this song. That's a clue, not an answer... sorry i cant explain it better.
@beerdedphantom3925
@beerdedphantom3925 3 күн бұрын
That guitar figure you noted continues into an extended break later in the song which is missing from the version you're reacting to. It's simple but gorgeous and really ramps up the intensity of the song, so it's a shame it wasn't included.
@jhmackay
@jhmackay 3 күн бұрын
This song has always ripped to the core, with me. Hearing it again here brought so much emotion back up, reminiscing on the times when it came out. But especially because, Amy, you delved so naturally, deeply and tactfully into the spirit of the song. Thank you!
@MinimyoCaly
@MinimyoCaly 4 күн бұрын
Zombie has always felt like an apology...an angry apology.
@concienciayluz829
@concienciayluz829 4 күн бұрын
Virgin, you not listened the full version of that song. You forget the last part, and trust me, is the best part of the song.
@davidward2651
@davidward2651 4 күн бұрын
I don't know if I'd agree with "best" part, but it's definitely weirdly truncated without it.
@Johnny_Socko
@Johnny_Socko 4 күн бұрын
@@davidward2651 This is the radio edit. I haven't actually heard this version in a long time.
@daviddunrud9228
@daviddunrud9228 3 күн бұрын
The drums are set in this song to sound like bombs falling in war. And the drummer, Fergal Lawler, beats the hell out of them...especially in the outro.
@johnwest7993
@johnwest7993 3 күн бұрын
The tenderness is the love for Ireland and its people, as a counterpoint to her ragged anger and frustration with the people who kill for their political and religious beliefs and their own frustrations with their social status, especially when the most innocent are involved. I'm surprised you made no mention of the martial musical foundation it is built upon. Her perfect Irish keening well represents the entire sad history of Ireland.
@jasonhaynes2952
@jasonhaynes2952 4 күн бұрын
Some have actually credited this song with helping both sides of the conflict to think about the horrible tragedy of the war, which ultimately ended the conflict. While it's debatable whether it directly helped end the conflict, it resonated in the public in a deep way and influenced the public to call for peace from both sides. This song literally may have helped end a war! And I believe it because the song is THAT powerful. The song is powerful enough, but watch the video sometime which has scenes of warfare intertwined. Delores O'Riordan's voice is possibly one of the most beautiful to ever be sung in my opinion. You should take a dive...she has so many more amazingly deep and beautiful songs that moves you in your soul in a way that few can do. She's a legend. RIP Delores. Side note: Having followed your channel for some time, I am confident you will ABSOLUTELY love more songs from this group. They all hit deep in your soul in a powerful way.
@3DJapan
@3DJapan 3 күн бұрын
I can believe it helped, especially since the troubles ended right after the song came out.
@victoriagill1588
@victoriagill1588 3 күн бұрын
No Need to Argue is one of those songs that make you stop and take reflection on your life. So powerful
@viracocha03
@viracocha03 3 күн бұрын
This is one of my favorite all time songs.
@Tijuanabill
@Tijuanabill 4 күн бұрын
Zombie is the right word, for this series of events in history. Mindless.
@NoahJanaKimble-fy9rc
@NoahJanaKimble-fy9rc 2 күн бұрын
You listened to the abridged version. Maybe you should do it over and watch the amazing video they made to go along with this song. The solo at the end completes the song. Without it, it doesnt really resolve.
@RichardLalonde
@RichardLalonde 3 күн бұрын
So fascinating that it’s your first time listening to Zombie by the Cranberries. Great breakdown and analysis. Love your videos.
@lifedeluxe4all
@lifedeluxe4all 3 күн бұрын
This is the first analysis of the song I've seen, where the music video wasn't included. It really is appreciated, as most other content creators get emotionally carried away by it (I don't blame them, it certainly is captivating). These rather sober observations definitely did the music justice. Thank you.
@darrinmoon1974
@darrinmoon1974 4 күн бұрын
Fun song to play on Rockband 4 . I play drums and backup vocals. My wife sings lead. We are good.
@danielguy3581
@danielguy3581 3 күн бұрын
I don't think the 'loss' and 'silence' refer to the direct loss of life from the bombing, rather the silencing of voices of dissent, of free thinking - becoming a zombie who sees things collectively as one side against the other ("may he see it's not me"). That's why the child is 'slowly' taken - by education and ideology, not suddenly by an act of violence. There is a quote (well-known in Israel by its Hebrew translation): "when the cannons are heard, the muses are silent".
@altair8598
@altair8598 4 күн бұрын
I fully agree with @beautifulhand1011. It is a very worthwhile record and the official video is powerful. Your wonderfully sensitive exploration took us back to the heart of this keening lament. Excellent choice of music for the channel.
@jace76ful
@jace76ful 3 күн бұрын
Cranberries best performance to really hear her voice is the npr live recording. Best cranberries 19 minutes ever! Very raw and very original. Dolores O'Riordan was such a gift.
@drfunkology8164
@drfunkology8164 3 күн бұрын
you may not believe this , but I've seen people cry to this and her voice .
@michaelflynn458
@michaelflynn458 3 күн бұрын
I do. Every time.
@pseixaspal
@pseixaspal 3 күн бұрын
“This song is not a rebel song, this song is Sunday, Bloody Sunday”. Ireland, check, protest, check.
@bminturn
@bminturn 4 күн бұрын
Her rendition of Ave Maria will bring you to tears, if you're a normal person anyway.
@Vmcf1968
@Vmcf1968 3 күн бұрын
i saw them open at dodger's stadium for the cure. they hadn't released zombie yet but i loved them.
@Metal73Mike
@Metal73Mike 3 күн бұрын
Rip Dolores O'Riordan, thank you for the brilliant music
@stevedoyle74
@stevedoyle74 3 күн бұрын
This isn’t a specific comment on this video, but I’ve watched some of your videos on and off and I gotta say - seeing you as a harp player I appreciate your comments and views. This is a fun channel to watch. Keep it up!
@fforw
@fforw 3 күн бұрын
I think the difference in the way this protest song plays out is that it is not a protest song where someone downtrodden is protesting the powers that be or which is trying to inspire resistance. It is protesting the absurdity of violence in a divided people. No one is strictly right or wrong, it's all just horrible and violent and never ending. The lyrics hardly take sides. *THEY* are in "your heads".
@patriciaalvareztostado8170
@patriciaalvareztostado8170 4 күн бұрын
Great song and group, a tragedy that we lost one of the best and more unique singers of her time, I recommended if you watched the video, the video brings something to the song, complete the song
@pandamoanium6319
@pandamoanium6319 3 күн бұрын
Yeah I was serving over there when that song came out, crazy times loads of memories
@herbertwest9626
@herbertwest9626 3 күн бұрын
You were serving where? In the north of Ireland?
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