Virtual Desktop Settings: Ultimate Performance, Graphics & Low Latency

[@MacInVR]

Just found out this: I use ASUS GPU Tweak II and if you use the "Gaming Booster" tab, that turns off Nvidia Display and disables the Nvidia Overlay/Ansel which may have been causing additional latency.

[@villious]

In my ASUS GPU Tweak, I have a "Gaming Mode" tab, but not a "Gaming Booster" tab. Same thing?

[@MacInVR]

Bottom middle of GPU Tweak II, there is a grey button says "gaming booster" with a little lightning sign?

[@Koutsn_]

Btw, setting ultra low latency to ultra can be counter productive if the GPU isn't being utilized fully by the title you're playing, it's better to adjust it on a per game basis with it set to ultra for games that hit the GPU hard

[@Koutsn_]

basically it helps to prevent latency from frames queueing, but if there is no frames queueing because your GPU can start doing all the work right away it can increase latency

[@MacInVR]

Thanks for the tip 👍

[@Saeedandi]

1- H.264 2- automatic bit rate off. 3- graphic medium 4- frame to 80 5- bit rate 55 6- sliced encoding On, extra latency and video buffering off

[@cyclicwand3017]

Thanks!

[@29Twinsen]

Thanks. 😀

[@cyx7784]

Thanks

[@itCamefromit]

If you're using his specs. Dial them according to your setup like he said.

[@teracoda]

Thanks

[@guyg0d1n]

“Automatically adjust bitrate” should stay CHECKED btw. It’s only useful to uncheck it if you are using a cloud computer and the bandwidth measurement isn’t accurate. The defaults will be the best settings for the majority of people. Start with those. Cheers!

[@unlustig1]

the man himself!

[@NippyNep]

@@unlustig1 ?

[@LMRDizzy]

​@@NippyNep its the legend that made virtual desktop

[@MacInVR]

Guy Godin is the Virtual Desktop app developer 😀

[@doomeddog5589]

ill try it thanks I like when devs say whats best more reliable as they made it

[@kevino2622]

The way you present always takes me back to the mid 90's as a kid watching Blue Peter or Art Attack... the pauses... love it :D

[@Dujfjfo]

Yeah I agree! Makes me want to watch Games Master

[@dok_lobster3238]

I had been looking for this exact kind of breakdown and experimentation. I appreciate you taking the time to not only test these, but explain it in a video. Appreciate it!

[@EmiratiAuto]

these setup setting take a lot of time to check and testing i really appreciated bro thank you so much for sharing your setting i subscribed

[@MotoWaifu]

just subbed whilst in VR sorting my settings/watching your video. The future is now. Thanks man!

[@danmiglin840]

I've been messing around with all of these settings, but I never would have thought to change the VR Graphics setting down to medium instead of high. It made a big difference in performance and I can barely see the difference. I mostly play iRacing in VR and your tips helped me get smoother performance which means faster laps!

[@MacInVR]

Glad I could help mate 🙂

[@SupremeKaiZamasu]

I have a 1650 super and virtual desktop is super laggy do you know how to fix

[@danmiglin840]

@@SupremeKaiZamasu laggy in what way? Low framerates and choppy performance or delayed inputs? The first problem needs a better graphics card and the second needs you to set up your router like Mac's.

[@SupremeKaiZamasu]

@@danmiglin840 idk I have seen people use rift and have perfect gameplay I think it’s just more preformance heavy because of compression tho I will get a 3070 as soon as they are back in stock

[@SupremeKaiZamasu]

And it’s very choppy

[@SketchyPadz]

Used this video as reference and it helped make Beat Saber bearable. Low 30ish latency and now I can play Beat Saber on Expert :)

[@Ssilvertounge]

THANK YOU SO MUCH!! This took me from almost giving up on no man's sky VR completely to getting in trouble with my wife for being in headset too long lol. Definitely subscribed and will remember to come here if I have any other issues.

[@MacInVR]

Thanks mate 😊

[@lean_machine_777]

This actually worked thanks

[@timclifford8809]

"There she is" lol. Great video, pal. I'm looking forward to checking my settings against your own and experimenting.

[@MacInVR]

I might do a community post where people submit there setups, good idea 💡

[@outsider427]

@@MacInVR Yes do that !

[@Mohnfeldi]

Well made, thank you. I am a 71'er, greetings from Germany.

[@androsforever500]

Thanks, through your tips and closer router placement I was able to get better latency. I also enabled the higher latency mode and got rid off 99% of tiny stutters and perfect tracking at around 32-35 ms latency

[@Adrian.A.V.]

''I also enabled the higher latency mode'' what mode is that? I also have stuttering in some games and would like to fix it. Thanks!

[@MacInVR]

In the streaming tab in virtual desktop, on the right hand side is a tab called "high latency mode". If you tick this box, it will reduce stuttering but will increase latency.

[@androsforever500]

@@MacInVR yes, that's the option I enabled

[@Adrian.A.V.]

@@MacInVR thank you very much, i will try it.

[@lorenzmanzenreiter5476]

one of the best tutorials i‘ve seen, perfectly explained and exactly what i needed! thanks!

[@MacInVR]

Glad I could help you 😊

[@snowywolfy1941]

Me and my roommate play VRC a lot had difficulty with laggy past times after watching this was very useful now our VR chat is not doing laggy frame by second hurting our eyes. Much appreciated!

[@MacInVR]

Cheers mate 👍

[@hardcoretj9714]

i love your voice i could listen to you talk all the time

[@MacInVR]

Thanks mate 🙂

[@Loxias321]

This is awesome. This is the best VD settings video and absolutely what I needed. Thanks for being so thorough; you connected a few dots for me.

[@rudyvalle9022]

Recently I changed my wireless settings and messed up my latency. Watching this video got me back to 32 ms, thanks.

[@Hamlet2615]

Thank you! I have found that having a cord strapped to my face was annoying for blade and sorcery so I looked into virtual desktop stuff and found this video. Helpful 👍

[@marcoschacon1768]

I really want your t-shirt, it was the year my wife was born. She would live it!

[@vrtacticalgear4184]

Thanks for the vid - i followed your tips to the letter and and getting around 31ms latency with solid performance ( all white numbers ) - I saw no increase with "high latency mode" but about a 12ms increase with "video buffering" on - i may leave that one one cause i did see a noticeable difference in gameplay, just felt smoother - thanks again

[@M1x3dRaspberri]

I used to have VERY low fps that was as a high of 24fps, but after I found out that I could change the settings I changed all of that, and I also got a graphics card before I changed the settings so that helped alot. Thanks for the great quide!

[@myew]

Thanks! You helped me get my latency locked down to 31ms, which makes a huge difference in Beat Saber.

[@CrunchySoap]

I like this guy. Hope his channel blows up.

[@MacInVR]

Thanks, appreciate the support 😀

[@LelandHasGames]

The reason that 90hz causes higher latency is because it's more data being compressed, pumped into your headset, and being decompressed. More frames, more data. Using 90hz for streaming data to your headset is not a good idea because your reaching the maximum capacity of most commercial routers. This also depends on resolution as well, of course. The higher the resolution, the higher the frame rate, the higher the latency.

[@GazixVR]

thank you for this video, love that you did the comparisons and went in-depth with each setting, you actually helped me fix an audio desync issue, that was driving me a bit crazy lol. Thank you very much!

[@pedrosoares7273]

In my 6800xt (AMD GPU) choosing HEVC lowered overall latency by around 5 ms. I am getting 28-30 ms of total latency in Pistol Whip. It feels just like the native quest 2, it just looks better

[@imfm]

These were the golden settings for me too. Thanks Mac!

[@veizour]

"Final step..." Me - "Final step, 51... wait... what happened to 6 through 50??!?!?!?!?!!?" O.o

[@MacInVR]

😂😂😂

[@-DawnZero]

I have a Intel 10700k and a RTX 3080 and after spending a day fine tuning my settings I landed on nearly the same exact settings as this video. If I set my bitrate any higher I get small fps drops when moving my head quickly. Solid video, I would say that your setting are about the highest anyone would want to go and have smooth experience.

[@MacInVR]

I'd love an RTX 3080 but my 2080ti seems to cope okay, its overclocked and the cooling fans suck in small birds and mammals so I might wait a generation before diving in

[@scrqqge]

I am so gratefull. Why? I,m no pc nerd, dont know nothing important. I love to game, got gaming pc. Got quest, quest 2 ...... but amd chip so no pc link. Saw a big mountain with connecting to virt desktop with the extra download from side quest, just not my thing. Finally quest supported by oculus who also see this system will be the golden duck and allow streaming for quest 2. I thought ok, will my long desired wish come true? 1 gaming pc check (amd chip? We will see). 2 high speed internet check. 3 asus advised wifirouter check! After installing my heart broke started one of my deepest wishes and tried to play stormland, i almost puked, unplayable. I wanted to play the real vr games that i see being played, by BMF, wolf in vr etc etc then i saw your vid, never seen u before, but you saved my (vr) life. Clear step by step, i almost cried again, stormland is fantastic. Next echo one, hl alyx, call of duty etc etc. Really big thanx

[@MacInVR]

Mate, great post, so glad I could help 😊 😀

[@branzeegaming6458]

Bout time Mac 😏 bloody brilliant video, been looking forward to this one!!

[@HotTakeHQ]

Thanks for the VR content 👌 I’m new to oculus quest 2 and I purchased it for use with X-Plane 11. Thanks for the tips. I’m going to continue tinkering with the settings today!

[@unlustig1]

great video, I appreciate all the testing you did!

[@MrKieMan]

thank you so much, this video helped me ALOT!!!

[@outsider427]

You da man, you should have more subscribers, I’ll post this to Reddit.

[@MacInVR]

Thanks mate, appreciate that 😁

[@outsider427]

@@MacInVR Done 👍

[@snapdragon9300]

@@MacInVR is it not worth it then having a link cable then? I get 150 mbits at best on Virtual desktop.I have 8750 H processor, 16 gb ram, 256 ssd, and 1 terabyte drive. I have 5 ghz set up. I get choppy frames after a few hrs, and some games wont load . Star wars squadrons and doom V fr for instance.I may have skipped setting up developer mode login as some game work without it, is that it?

[@flyingbanana2436]

@@snapdragon9300 gpu?

[@lanterngamer6732]

@@flyingbanana2436 they have been lost to the choppy void, they shall take centuries, even millennia to return from the prison that they have entered

[@Zee-fr6bz]

You better never stop making videos he one of the best VR KZbinrs out there don’t forget that

[@Unikv]

get your motherfucking like internet man. You just made my VR experience so much better, thanks!

[@MacInVR]

😎😎😎

[@ofek5365]

Thanks! I'm finally reaching 90fps Very helpful video. Love the in-depth\side by side comparisons + your opinion

[@MacInVR]

Thanks mate, appreciate you taking time to comment 🙂

[@funkymonk4688]

Your settings worked perfect on my pc! Thank you so much sir!!!! You fixed my choppyness

[@MacInVR]

Glad I could help you 😊

[@eoinokeeffe7014]

Thanks for the video. I think you missed the point of the "Automatically adjust bitrate" setting. It's there to determine the best bitrate for you. Whether it's on or off you'll only see a difference if you're actually comparing two different bitrates. At least, that's my understanding.

[@minibullet91]

Thanks for a solid scientific process.

[@LoomingLobo]

Thanks changing the codec helped I had it on automatic

[@MacInVR]

My pleasure 😀

[@vitalv2824]

Amazing video brother, you just got a life long subscriber! Thank you for the tips. I will be getting a 3060ti 12 gb vram and post here after testing.

[@MacInVR]

@VitalV2 Thanks mate, video has been updated here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bZjXeWtrmst3has

[@mrkinch78]

i like how his mic makes it look like he has an exclamation mark on his neck!

[@shrappnells]

Very good vid mate

[@MkSPR]

Great video, thank you! And greetings from Russia!:)

[@BabylonBaller]

Thanks to this tutorial Im now getting a clean 31ms avg using these settings. Kudos to Mister Rootah

[@TheZelda555]

Very informative and well explained. Thanks for the effort :)

[@LuMo1980]

If you have an AMD GPU, HEVC (H.265) encoding will give you much better performance and lower latency than H.264, at least that's what I experience on my PC.

[@simondeller8735]

Do you notice less compression artefacts or visual differences between higher bitrates etc? Is it worth the latency hit for visual improvement?

[@MacInVR]

Its the main problem, more bitrate equals more latency

[@tobywankenobi7964]

Good Video! Thanks for all the effort. I like to see your channel growing!

[@shippy1001]

Man thank you so very much! I was looking for a video like that since last week, it is of great help, especially because I was experiencing some issues with BoneWorks on the Quest2, while I wasn`t on the Quest 1.

[@WarRadish]

Thanks Mac. Very useful video.

[@lightstorm6652]

Dude in HL Alyx you should have moved your hand/weapon from side to side repeatedly to see if you get micro stutters or if it stays smooth and then you will see that EL and VB make a difference.

[@jessehavok4181]

I have an old GTX 1060 and that trick made me able to use Oculus Link! Thanks!

[@MacInVR]

Nice! 😀

[@RageChronicles]

Heads up to anyone with an RX580 GPU, it doesn't like Sliced Encoding. Turn it off if you see twitches \ flickers in an eye.

[@MacInVR]

Thanks for the tip Said the actress to the vicar 😂

[@derekdubs3074]

This is the best vr channel on KZbin

[@MacInVR]

Thanks mate 👍

[@cfx3]

Its nice to see your video

[@jimbo121]

Same specs for pc and I am so used to cranking everything makes me sad I have to settle now haha. Can't upgrade until stocks settle. Also I purchased the Asus rt-ax82u and it is very stable.

[@parched7438]

Great content man got my sub 👏 👌🏼 👍🏼

[@MacInVR]

Cheers mate, appreciate the support 👍

[@Denjen]

Tysm for the help my guyyy

[@larry9195]

the VR graphics options are dependent on your pc, so if you have a beefy pc choose high and if you have a low end pc choose low or the new "potato" mode

[@pkerry12]

5:10 I might add to this if your on an AMD radeon card make sure you only pick HEVC if you're on a Nvidia card pick H.264. It makes it easy to choose the codec

[@MacInVR]

Thanks for the tip mate 😀

[@Adapto3]

Automaticly adjust bitrate only sets a cap of your maximum bitrate. After that you cant set above maximum negotiated setting of your bandwith. On my ax1500 sometimes it sets 120mbps sometimes 110mbps. turning it off you can force to use 150 mbps always

[@MacInVR]

Thanks for the clarification mate good job 😄

[@johnsblendorio6568]

Will a router help ..I seem to be lagging . I have a3070 and when using link it's perfect but vd I have issues ..I have a 5 ghz dedicated channel and I used all these settings ..is the router the final piece of the puzzle

[@MacInVR]

How far is your router from your Quest? Mine is literally say right next to my playspace

[@guitdude13]

@@johnsblendorio6568 one thing that ended up being the biggest deal for me even with a good router, right next to my play space was making sure that you don’t have interference on surrounding channels either. You may have already done this, but in case you haven’t you can see in this chart what I mean: metis.fi/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/5GHz.png Depending on your channel width that is set you can see which other channels overlap and can double check networks around you to see if it’s mostly clear. If you do have overlapping sometimes a smaller channel width can help reduce interference even though your get less throughput. If you know you don’t have any interference though then it may be your router or distance from router. I would also make sure you try turning down graphics settings on your game to low when testing to make sure it’s network related.

[@guitdude13]

One other thing is this is assuming that you are only using the router for your quest. If you have other devices connected to the same 5ghz router then they may also cause interference and I would turn them all off while testing.

[@braden9536]

I push my settings quite a bit higher with better/same results, so I think you're being a bit conservative. In my case, auto codec (usually goes with H.264), auto bitrate on, resolution high (1.5x supersampling in Steam), 90 FPS, 96 Mbps bitrate, sliced encoding enabled. I hover around 30 ms for the most part on an i7 8700k, RTX 3090, and ASUS Rapture AX11000 router.

[@MacInVR]

JEALOUS!! That is a nice setup you have there 😳😄

[@kpgpwi64]

Where do you find the super sampling setting in steam? I think this maybe the answer to my problems

[@MacInVR]

It's in settings/video, you can have global SS (which sets super sampling across ALL games) and also individual SS per game. Personally, I set global SS to 100% then fiddle with SS on a per game basis.

[@androsforever500]

Nice video man! Subbed ;)

[@alexthetech1305]

Thanks for this video!

[@ij20man35]

Thanks for the info quite helpful.

[@hammackjoshua]

THIS VIDEO! Thank you so much you saved me hours and a few hundred $$$, was able to get butter smooth on my AC Google Mesh network. Subscribed and liked!

[@oliverpolden]

A mesh network will introduce latency because it has to send the data from one node to another as well as encode and decode it. How much? I don’t know. You’re better off with a decent router.

[@TonyDeagle0611]

Unreal Mac, seriously good channel and has got me up and running Wirelessly now, even though it is nice to have the link cable for battery purposes :)

[@MacInVR]

Thanks mate, that's what I'm here for. Just got my elite battery strap delivered over the weekend, appeals to my tidy freak OCD and at least 7 hours of Pop1 action on one charge too 🙂

[@TonyDeagle0611]

@@MacInVR haha get a review up once you've used it for a while, I think a lot of people are on the fence to get it or not :) enjoy your longer sessions man

[@marcelstrkrdelamotte3903]

Great work!

[@martinanne2006]

Again great video! Gonna go and use these settings to see :)

[@johnhawthorne4716]

Thanks dude Gotta try these settings out On my quest 2019

[@gumbywithagun4293]

THANK YOU

[@pedrosoares7273]

I get very similar latency numbers using: Encoder: HEVC, Bitrate: 100 Mpbs FPS: 90 (less than that gives me motion sickness) Render Resolution: Medium-High (You need to go to Steam VR and set it to 2740px wide - Medium is around 2500px, High is around 3000px) To reduce latency or stutters on specific games, I need to lower the resolution (In blade and Sorcery I have to go with 2300x2400, something like that). This is what i settled on my 6800XT, which is quite more powerful than your RTX2070 though. However, Im sure I could severely decrease latency further by dropping the bitrate if I was using a 3080 or a 3070 because Nvidia's encoding has much better quality.

[@johnsaunders6510]

Very useful. Thanks.

[@benphillips1152]

Thanks Mac. This is super helpful

[@michealflemming758]

Your amazing, thank you for the oculus casting tip i've been looking for that.

[@Kav_Games]

this helped a ton man thanks!

[@TalesofLogic]

My Quest 2 comes in less than 10 days so here I am studying up on all the best settings 😂 Thanks a ton! I'm cheap and bought a third party cable but depending on how reliable it ends up being I may prefer virtual desktop lmao

[@MacInVR]

If your PC can handle VR the virtual desktop app is incredible, wireless PC VR is the future

[@jamesclow108]

Thanks for the starter tips.

[@parishna4882]

It's 1.18.4 now, 10 days later! ok, now to continue watching!! lol

[@DopamineOverload]

Newest version of VD does not have "Extra Latency" setting, unless I don't see it anywhere...?

[@MacInVR]

That video has been updated here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hqSsm6CKq7Sqeac

[@doomeddog5589]

what should I use GTX 1660 SUPER, AMD Ryzen 5 36006-Core Processor and 19.95 GB of ram

[@justwatching2302]

Like the opening!

[@MrSurviv0r]

I have finally reached smooth gameplay on the Quest 2 via Virtual Desktop. I had it locked down on the 1, but couldn't find the right combo for 2. You did. I appreciate it, and I appreciate the way you presented it. Good job, and keep up the good work! Big thanks for the help.

[@MacInVR]

Thanks mate, really glad I could help you 😊

[@MegaIronica]

Tanks a lot. I spent hours trying to optimize my settings for Half Life Alyx. My problem is I really really want to keep VR graphics at high to take advantage of the full Quest 2 resolution. Maybe I am too greedy with only Ryzen 5 3600 and RTX 2070 lol. I ll try your settings but I might reduce the bitrate and keep fps at 72.

[@babyspine]

so I have an RTX 2070 and 16gigs of ram and I found that using your settings was great except that I can actually run 90fps instead of 80 and it gives me lower more consistent latency between 28-30ms in games, I also have a Wifi 6 5ghz Nighthawk Router.

[@robertorebola7532]

Hi Mac in VR would you do a oculus debug tools settings video for people that only use airlink I only trust you , you could ask the viewers if you get enough likes then you could consider it 🤩🤗

[@MacInVR]

I've been discussing such a video with @radical turkey for Oculus Tray Tool and Oculus Debug. It's on the content list so just need to do my research first but this is a biggie so don't want to get anything incorrect

[@Bos_Meong]

Best video ever thanks for the tips. Other people videos are extremely useless

[@ronm6585]

Thanks for the great tips Mac. Cheers.

[@MacInVR]

Cheers Ron 😁

[@chickentheloaftheloaf428]

You are a legend.

[@kostihouse]

Regarding the hevc (nice but more latency)vs 264(horribly ugly but better latecy) codecs, it depends on which card you use (amd or nvidia). I was on amd until recently and i learned that amd decodes the ugly 264 even slower than hevc, so i learned to use hevc. And now i did a little upgrade from rx 570 to gtx 1070, and altough i could now achieve a better latency with 264, i will certainly go for hevc, because the 264 is really ugly, and the difference of 10 ms is certainly worth it..

[@MacInVR]

Thanks for the info 👍

[@DlowProd]

thanks alot

[@ace3093]

Love your videos. Great 👍

[@nielshoffman1]

I love your T-shirt!!👍👍

[@scoobychau]

Excellent stuff. I an subscribing

[@bolleman552]

Hi, i have tested airlink and found that it works better than vd. All games like, Raw Data, Robinson, Gunjack, Defector, a Tech Cybernetic, and killing Floor Incursion. these all showed the Vive controllers in VD and were unplayable. now everything works and they just show the oculus controllers. A game: Archangel hellfire did not work at all with VD, now with airlink this game works flawlessly.

[@MacInVR]

Cool, thanks for the info 😎