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Why I'm switching Ledger for Trezor
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[@RainBitcoins]

Agreed, I have recently got rid of my ledger and replaced with the trezor safe 3

[@True38]

As have I.

[@RainBitcoins]

@@True38 smart, especially with all the new developments these past couple days.

[@Jason.5911]

Can you please tell me, best way to send crypto from ledger to trezor ?

[@LarsLarsen77]

Send $1 to the trezor, back up the trezor to steel or titanium plates and then wipe the trezor and recover the seed from the metal plates. Verify that you can see and send the $1. At this point, transfer a small test transaction from ledger to trezor with a QR code (for the error correction vs copy pasting a string) and then use the same steps (but generating a new QR code to avoid key reuse) to transfer the rest once you see that it worked and you're not being scammed into sending to the wrong address somehow.@@Jason.5911

[@RainBitcoins]

@@Jason.5911 easiest way is setup the same wallets in trezor as what you have in ledger, then send them out of the ledger and into the trezor.

[@dlukton]

Also, Trezor could be used IN CONJUNCTION WITH a software wallet like Sparrow; so even if the bad guys were able to extract the seed phrase from the Trezor wallet, they'd still have a lot more hurdles to overcome before getting their hands on your crypto.

[@abdulhye]

😂 if they get the seed phrase, you’re out of luck. Your crypto is gone

[@dlukton]

@@abdulhye if you're using Trezor to "sign" transactions with the Sparrow wallet, the thief would need more than just the seed phrase to the Trezor wallet in order to steal bitcoin.

[@bozohunter9975]

@@dlukton stop talking bro

[@denizthebig]

@@dlukton no brother, you just display your balance of the ledger or trezor on that wallet, you can link ledger also with phantom metamaks etc and you might think they need the metamask pw too but thats not the case. Once someone got your peice of paper with the seedphrase your coins are his now. No matter what pw you got either on the wallet where u display the amount in ledger or the ledger trezor app itself. the seeedphrase are your keys.. these 12 or 20 words are your money i know its weird but watch videos about it what bitcoin is in general how it works and then you will understand way more then watching videos about how to stay safe, not saying they dont help but i think u get what im trying to say here

[@ttkddry]

​@dlukton if they have your 12 seed words, they can use a new hardware wallet with your private keys and use them with any software wallet like trezor suit and access your coins. Explain how Sparrow will help to secure your hardware wallet?

[@WEASELWAZEL242]

I've just got a trezor safe 3 I strongly recommend

[@RainBitcoins]

I love my new safe 3

[@peacelove3.6.9]

Do U use hot wallets with it? Or is it purely for storage

[@Vishalbhatty]

Price ?

[@dev3022]

Do you use Metamask with it? I heard people use it with the Ledger but then I heard Metamask got compromised. So I’m not sure what to think with conflicting opinions.

[@JasonBarker_YT]

yes but you can't use Trezor with the app to send and receive as easily as you can with a ledger!? ive just got a Trezor but needs a laptop ;/ I can literally send and receive bitcoin on the go with a ledger or am I missing something ??

[@timmychuk]

Well most hardware devices use a SE they has IP so of course they are upfront about that . The secure element in Trezor is also closed source.

[@RodBoyle-q2k]

It is best to store cryptocurrency in the Utopia ecosystem, it will definitely be safe there

[@anthonygreene562]

Trezor T is my boy

[@lacuitezz2920]

im very new..can we save some alt coin in there? and how many limit?

[@Georgeliam549]

How trezor is better option since is open source as you said savvy users can manupilate it ? Close source protects anyone to use the sourcs

[@BenonBoldstreet]

The big move begins

[@Rioboss420]

What about block stream jade

[@krism5575]

Is it possible to switch from ledger nano S (my screen died, it's now useless) to Trezor safe 3? Nano S has 24 seed phrase while based on their website safe 3 only has 12 seed phrase...

[@MarKac9090]

Disagree ! having open source allows attackers to create custom fake firmware and install it on the Trezor device for you not to notice anything! with Ledger you cannot do that since you don’t have the source code to recompile it with the backdoor

[@davidciprys7811]

And what is stopping an attacker to write his own firmware from scratch? How is the attacker going to distribute said malicious firmware? Having software open source means when vulnerability is found it is quickly fixed. When vulnerability is found in closed source product usually it won't get fixed that quickly because fixing a security flaw doesn't generate more money and community can't fix it themself either.

[@cjoshy]

Meanwhile, Ledger is storing seed phrases in the server.

[@vantoanle8257]

they cancelled that plan.

[@subneo61]

"canceled"@@vantoanle8257

[@pouroverfinance]

​@@vantoanle8257it launched

[@CraigC55]

I think ledger just got hacked

[@CursorCraftedRides]

​@@CraigC55yepp their dapp connect kit got rouge code pushed

[@OptimizedEssentials]

What happens if you lose all 3 tangem cards?

[@jeebtheboss]

you're fucked hahaha, but how could you lose the 3 of them seriously?

[@OptimizedEssentials]

@@jeebtheboss house burns down

[@jeebtheboss]

@@OptimizedEssentials super bad idea to keep your 3 cards at the same location

[@henryogbonnaya3575]

Can I recover my Ledger on Trezor?

[@PA-yy8vu]

Yea. Just have ur 12 or 24 words

[@straightjacketleatha]

But if your Ledger created seed phrase was somehow ever leaked because... let's say they do have access to them & were exposed...then your assets could be at risk. Would recommend creating a new seed phrase with another device to be safe!

[@Jbirdsoar]

Bro, got paid

[@superjeffstanton]

Frfr

[@user-cz2kv3jt5b]

Oh shit

[@przemekd4694]

Can you be sure about your seed being truly random and not pre generated when using trezor, ledger,coldcard or any other wallets ?

[@uekikosuke3601]

Good question

[@Sfg116]

No

[@WW-ob7ek]

Always generate a new seed phrase before using your hardware wallet

[@donaldoarmand212]

ledger has also screwed up with their customer database and also screwed up again recently

[@aeowid]

I think it's finally time I join team trezor as well Ledger just dropping the ball all over the place

[@RainBitcoins]

It's almost like their trying to destroy their reputation. Crazy what's been happening these past couple days.

[@ItsGerbs]

JOKING: Bro knowing the world these days watch it come out that some billionaire at the top of Ledger struck a bargain with the code writers to swap and cop in the actualization of just another scheme to utilize a legal loophole. Now they are just passing their time while we all switch off of any legal agreements that might have seen them legally entangled with ledger, where an open source project doesn't have the regulation as the ladder 😅😂 either way my brain resembles a pot of soup more everyday

[@cam5816]

What have they been doing? I just bought a lot of XRP (or a lot for me, at least, since I don’t have very much money to my name) because of the advice of a good old friend of mine who I trust but I am not actually all that experienced with this stuff and I only just recently even got my own laptop so I’m really lost but trying to learn and figure out what the best/safest option is for me to save or download the XRP I bought so I can just pull it out and put it away somewhere without having to think about it for years to hopefully one day support my future self in an emergency or for my family to be able to use when I’m no longer around

[@Stormtheheights]

I brought nano s ledger, very confusing for me to swap this XRP coin to usdt. Either the network is blocked, or im not doing it right. It kept disconecting from the cable initially, to do the update. Frustrating. But got there in the end. There are updates to do. Best to keep up to date with these​ in any case. Not sure where I need to connect the wallets IN ledger live, to access the coin. @cam5816

[@esu7116]

yeah these are the two reasons why Ledger looks like crap to my eyes: 1. closed-source firmware 2. surrounding scams + bad relationships: based in France (commies) & shady partners (Changelly) trying to scam you

[@davearnold731]

Ledger is also now trying to force KYC and a backup (backdoor) to your seed phrase (for your safety)... RUN

[@Stormtheheights]

😮 seriously?!! 🙄

[@GaDad-j7c]

Thanks for sharing such valuable information! I have a quick question: I have a okx wallet with 3000USDT, and I have the seed phrase. erosion fall gas garment ivory aisle blade pepper crowd strike bus culture . Could you explain how to move them to Binance?

[@Pepaproduction]

Bro's question: Cold wallet manufacturers definitely know our 12 phrase code. One day, the factory will be taken away by everyone. What happens?

[@ArturaMiklas]

Thanks for the interesting content! 😍 Just a small off-topic question: 😅 I have these words 🤨. (behave today finger ski upon boy assault summer exhaust beauty stereo over). How do I use this? 🤨

[@V4nd3rTr1p]

true but anyone cares, both are the best ones, are you really thinking a popular company for years will scam people in a market that has already won? It doesn't matter, it's normal to see people looking for the cat's fifth paw...

[@klasykapolskiegohh8798]

I thought the whole point of hardware wallet was to make sure we don't get hacked. If ledger doesn't want to have open source then that's fishy. And I won't be using it

[@MaxPanic]

Trezor of Coldcard. These are the only considerations at the moment.

[@lewissteam]

Ops on Tangem card?

[@dantrefil7939]

Czech gold hands💪 buy buy buy

[@maclectic]

What I don't understand about Trezor is why does it only support a few blockchains, nothing else?

[@qurp]

The fact that it is open source is great and all, but how do you know that Trezor is actually loading this version of the code onto the device?

[@RainBitcoins]

I guess you don't, so in that case you use logic through the process of elimination. Has ledger lost my sensitive information due to a data breach? Yes they have. Has Trezor? No Is ledger going against one of their number 1 rules, don't ever share your keys with anyone, even them? Yes they have. Has Trezor? No And with all the new crazy developments these last couple days it's pretty hard to endorse ledger anymore. And to this day I'm still getting phishing emails due to them losing my email address and who knows what other sensitive info.

[@LarsLarsen77]

You can load it on yourself. The app has a "replace firmware" option.

[@mickeydrago9401]

What about the guy that took apart a trezor and extracted the seed phrase

[@EricDavidTippett]

Yup they'd have to physically steal your device though so hide it, they'd also be a very specific person with like a million dollars worth of equipment that would target you for some reason.

[@mickeydrago9401]

​@@EricDavidTippett Hopefully they didn't reveal enough details for somebody to fill in the blanks and spread the method on the dark web or even do a KZbin video! That article says more than enough! I suppose if you were paranoid enough you could modify the look and design of your hardware wallet. Incognito device. Maybe you could make it look like a multi-card reader. Keep it in a safe

[@jackred2362]

@@EricDavidTippett Not only that, but apparently it was an older model aswell.

[@brittanycunningham787]

​@@mickeydrago9401or you could put it in a safe like i did. Problem solved

[@fabiandrinksmilk6205]

There could always be a bug or exploit in these devices, being open source or proprietary doesn't make it impossible. That guy was able to extract the seed phrase using an already patched exploit, but the wallet he hacked wasn't updated. This is why it is important to always update your devices. With open source, the source code is freely available meaning that anyone can find the bugs or exploits and fix themselves for everyone. With closed source, only the creator (in this case Ledger) can see the source code meaning that you have to trust them to do a good job at securing their devices.

[@v.garcia3083]

Just recently my Trezor wallet says it can't access my balances. It's some kind of glitch. That's been happening last few times and I've had it for a year and a 1/2 with no issues before. I'm checking out the Decent wallet. I'm already using a ledger nano x, Because I wanted split up my assets, not putting all in the same basket.

[@lalomedina350]

Yes that is the most important thing. To have multiple wallets since you might get it lost , stolen and to mitigate risk.

[@hsutina8861]

I'm a boarder patrol officer and I'm tired of taking these reports where people are scammed anywhere from 100 to seriously $50,000. It’s unfortunate that I have to say sometimes tell them that I cannot do anything to bring them justice. (at my level at least) #Icloud__boss1 Seriously thank you for fucking with these assholes. You make me want to spend the next 10 years learning how to do this lol::🛜

[@denizthebig]

that is just the part of the wallet that displays you the coins, you can always go to the chain explorer and look if your coins are in the wallet. you can also connect ur ledger trezor with a desktop wallet like phantom metamask etc and see ur balance there. its just showing you the coins but they are still in the ledger even though u can see them in metamask.. watch videos about it if you dont understand it, its easy

[@maxschmidt8929]

I had the same issue recently where I freshly set up my formerly wiped Trezor One. I COULD access the funds in question with my Ledger Nano S. Trezor is great and I've used them without issue in the past, but overall I like Ledger a little better. You don't need to use their recovery program even though many people probably should. I don't think you should be scared at all storing your funds on either a Trezor or a Ledger device.

[@theoracleofcrypto]

I like this , I got my ledger from them and it was closed but the cable had a Best Buy sticker on it , like someone from inside is opening it and then making it look new in the package and shipping it out from ledger directly- I should not get a burst buy price that had a march 2023 price tag that says Best Buy on it- the box I bought was nano x - why would a march tag on the cord be in a closed box within the same month I bought a nano x - I’ll go for the Trevor forsure ,, thanks

[@n.g.l.]

They literally got exposed for monitoring your expenses lol

[@Stormtheheights]

Who? Ledger? How would they view anything on your product?

[@tdavius]

I just upgraded from the Trezor Model T to the Trezor Safe 5

[@braddater5834]

I have done this as well. The 5 has a more secure chip

[@adriang2844]

@@braddater5834really? Search Euclake

[@jacklukins5550]

are you making an entirely new wallet on trazor or just using the same ledger seed phrase and save yourself the transaction costs?

[@monkeyseemonkeydo432]

😂

[@anonymousfx5254]

Oi, what is your opinion about funds safety on Trezor. Thought of getting me one, cause i don't feel conformable holding crypto on binance where i trade, nor on Exodus, which don't give that much trust. Anyway, thought of getting Trezor but run into dozens of comments ;bout how people's money just disappeared during transaction, account wiped out after half a year of not getting into trezor, etc

[@RainBitcoins]

Exodus is safer than Binance, but a Trezor is far safer than both. Stay away from ledger, just too much drama with them lately. Yes I've also heard all those stories too of people losing funds. But if you do everything your supposed to do, ie never take a picture or store your seed words in a digital manner, never allow anyone but yourself access to it. Never input your seed phrases into anything but your trezor, and the only time that should ever be would be to restore an old trezor back to original or initiating a new Trezor with seed words from an old one. Many people tend to fall for phishing attempts, they'll get an email that looks like it comes from Trezor, it will say click here to secure your funds or whatever and then it will ask you to input your seed words.. Number one rule is you will NEVER, EVER be asked your seed words, for anything. If your being asked it's either scammers or the police, who knows whatever else too. But if you need to enter your seed words anywhere it's because you initiated it, not because your being asked to do so. Also order from Trezors official website.. Ya ya I know there are official resellers on Amazon and whatever. But just remove any and all possible sources of a breach and you'll sleep better at night. Amazon has been known to resell returns.. So what's to say someone clever didn't buy one, compromise it somehow and repackage it in a way it doesn't seem like it was opened. Amazon will resell it to the next guy, don't be that guy or gal. I highly recommend you get your crypto off of exchanges, it's a very good way to lose all your funds, it's happened before and it will happen again. History tends to repeat itself, especially in crypto, that goes for good news too. Follow best practices and I promise you won't lose a cent. I've had hard wallets since 2013 and haven't lost anything. Oh and remember, it's not the actual device you need to protect at all cost. It's the seed words. You can lose the device, as long you have your seed words your good. I make 5 different copies (hand written of course, not even photocopies, no pictures) and hide them in multiple places, different houses etc...

[@denizthebig]

its bullshit, these people always connect there cold wallet that is supposed to be used to only send and recieve coins.. they connect it on some weird sites etc and think its safe. No matter what wallet ledger trezor etc if you connect your wallet to scammy sites it can be stolen. The thing with a normal desktop wallet like metamask is when u got a virus on ur pc they can get out the seedphrase of the wallet and steal ur coins even without connecting to anything. but if you got a ledger or trezor and u got a virus on ur pc your coins are still safe. And also use exchange like binance like a toilette in a club just do what u want do and leave again. Never leave ur coins on a exchange, if they got problems on their site or legal stuff or go bankrupt ur coins are gone cause they got ur seedphrase and its stored all on their exchange

[@florentcognet]

Dumb and false advice. There’s no backdoor to the seed phrase on ledger. Nobody seems to get what the ledger recover is… This is just market manipulation. I really look forward to some régulation over crypto influencers. How much did Trezor pay for this ad? The guy is sweating from every pore of his skin…

[@Mayamassoud-e3v]

Thanks for sharing such valuable information! I have a quick question: I have a okx wallet with USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (host hair point assault nominee walk plate focus idea analyst metal liberty). Could you explain how to move them to Binance?

[@AllThingsEVM]

Have been using Trezor for nearly 3 years. Best hardware waller

[@julienascoet4031]

There's a BIG downside with open source. Since it's open, attackers can more easily find flaws and exploit them.

[@wahidali7]

Thanks, interesting. A bit off-topic question, but I hope someone can help. How to transfer USDT from OKX wallet to Binance using the initial phrase: head isolate sound end kit industry choice festival limit stable dolphin derive. It doesn't work for me, the address is not accepted.

[@MrKaptenkaj]

Tangem?

[@krishnav2108]

If you lose all the cards, you're fucked

[@gazzaeabc3805]

Can't get any worthwhile support from Trezor. Don't bother. Try moving XRP from Binance to a Safe3.

[@anothersomething]

I have owned 4 Ledger devices. I warn everyone, their devices dont last. One day you will try to use your ledger that you only used a couple of times and stored safely, and it will not work. For example the Nano X has battery issues. If you dont charge it, battery breaks and device will not work even if connected.

[@RuhollahHosni]

When working with others is collaboration, thinking with others is collaborative thinking. Collaboration is literally working with others. Collaborative thinking is a pattern of thinking that can essentially facilitate collaboration, business collaboration is the hard work of working together to do things in order to produce practical and useful outcomes as a team.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@jeebtheboss]

I'm surprised more people arent using Tangem. Why? Is there any security issue that I didn't understand, or anything else? Why Trezor or Ledger are still ahead a product like the Tangem cards. I just decided to go with Tangem, as it seemed to be the best choice to me, but I'd like your opinion guys

[@dastirogue3282]

Exactly or if you wanna spend some cash you can snatch up a wallet at BC Vault. Multiple hard wallets are great to have so why not have the most reliable instead of …

[@Zeratsu]

but it's price isn't it? Like 4 times the price of Trezor Safe 3.

[@denizthebig]

price and more trust in ledger and trezor company

[@esu7116]

I hate Tangem because of their BLIND SIGNATURES. If you are serious about crypto, never ever blindly sign any transaction... except if you are okay with losing all your funds :)

[@frustratedmajority851]

My ONLY complaint about Trezor is its lack of bep20 storage... as well as a few other coins. Its tech is way better

[@BlitzDjingga]

And that also mean hacker are invited to freely try to reverse engineer or implant hacky way of backdoor ✌🏽

[@vickyverona90]

How can i send Altcoin for example ( bonk, shiba inu, pepe, meme ) to Trezor safe 3. Or where can i find this coin in trezor safe 3 . some one can explain me please.

[@crypto9017]

ELLIPAL and DCENT

[@DonteeWeaver]

😬😬😬

[@Top10soon]

Kaspa, gfal, sdex, ulx, Tenet, aeron are small gems that havent had a bullrun with massive potential 🔥💎🔥💎🔥💎

[@SergeyCoder]

Good for you! Ledger sell toys for teenagers, not serious security products.

[@Homelessnomad]

I am waiting for trezor black friday then i will buy a few.

[@albertocoutinho5703]

Did you buy?

[@WW-ob7ek]

And why a few?

[@vrsce0178]

@@WW-ob7ek Nosey ass.

[@MrAntwon133]

How ya feel now after the hack lmao bruh trezor is the WORST

[@AlainaCooper-m5c]

You're doing a fantastic job! Just a quick off-topic question: I have USDT in my SafePal wallet along with the seed phrase. (air carpet target dish off jeans toilet sweet piano spoil fruit essay). What's the best way to send them to Binance?

[@ah-tron3527]

Hi, what's the address? I'll see if I can help you out 👍

[@CopperSkinnedMami]

It’s definitely going to be one man, one currency, one world government & one world religion etc

[@jackjohnson4216]

Is there any benefit to never updating your ledger live ? Or any disadvantage?

[@edgar-mmxxiii]

And you believe that? What makes you think that the open source code they posted online is the same as the one they are currently using? They can sneak an update with a rogue firmware and you will never know it.

[@gbg3663]

so, where do you store crypto and/or where would you recommend storing it?

[@edgar-mmxxiii]

Cold storage@@gbg3663

[@jp62200]

Trezor has a page called ''reproductible build ''. You can compile from source, compute a hash and then verify it is the same

[@TheUntaintedTreble]

Trezor unavailable in North American markets for almost 3 months now

[@JohnDoe-vt6zm]

I bought one on amazon like 2 weeks ago

[@9durrell9]

That’s a Big No No! Buying a cold wallet from a 3rd party??! You’re just asking to be hacked.

[@RainBitcoins]

They shipping in mid November

[@gatesroyale]

@@JohnDoe-vt6zm did you really buy it from Amazon dude that’s a hell no

[@passportpapi713]

@@JohnDoe-vt6zm😂😂😂😂 bro that’s like buying someone’s old bank account trusting they don’t have any info to it anymore.

[@Devam-xc9zt]

Thanks for being u bra. U the man. Ur video was so well put together in terms of how you described what's going on, who does it, the potential consequences etc, was really well done . Top notch. A lot of people will benefit from this. Good on you Adriannotch on the internet.

[@tarsonnunes8818]

Can anyone tell me if they are already delivering if I buy directly on the Trezor website? And if so, how long does it take to deliver to a US address? I didn't see anything about delivery time on the website.

[@hsutina8861]

I'm a boarder patrol officer and I'm tired of taking these reports where people are scammed anywhere from 100 to seriously $50,000. It’s unfortunate that I have to say sometimes tell them that I cannot do anything to bring them justice. (at my level at least) #Icloud__boss1 Seriously thank you for fucking with these assholes. You make me want to spend the next 10 years learning how to do this lol::.🛜

[@LingSaylor]

Honestly the people on this channel should be working with the m governments. They are amazing people and really smart as well. *Adriannotch* Keep it up guys

[@superjeffstanton]

They are why do you think they are making these videos LOL

[@erikescalet]

What happens in a case of an emp ?lol asking for a friend

[@jasminj.a1328]

I lov Trezor T 🎉

[@vivanco90262]

Trezor is hacked by unciphered

[@ShiverScape]

Im going to buy every trezor product

[@h3rmzi]

I have had my xrp on it for 5 years now

[@tolamwayne]

The crypto chains/coins supported by Trezor is way less than the ones by Ledger.

[@NicholasOckhuisen]

yes hopefully they increase the features and coins

[@Yash-Gaikwad]

Why is he repeating the same word twice

[@xrp_shinobi]

i have a question @virtuaLbacon is that okay if i dont update the latest version of firmware in my LEDGER?

[@fabiandrinksmilk6205]

You should ideally always update your devices, hardware wallet or whatever else. Updates often have patches for known exploits and not updating could make you vulnerable.

[@joseromero9933]

How much is Trezor and where can I buy it?

[@neromaria5424]

Price for Trezor please ???

[@marielle5893]

fear fear fear

[@brunodifrancescantonio6007]

Just got my Trezor T model, very happy 😃

[@STORYofSELBI]

Have had issues with ledger connecting with my nano s and ready to leave issues for years after connecting after long period of time

[@hsutina8861]

I'm a boarder patrol officer and I'm tired of taking these reports where people are scammed anywhere from 100 to seriously $50,000. It’s unfortunate that I have to say sometimes tell them that I cannot do anything to bring them justice. (at my level at least) #Icloud__boss1 Seriously thank you for fucking with these assholes. You make me want to spend the next 10 years learning how to do this lol::.🛜

[@Stormtheheights]

I think the connection is bad. The port has too much movement and looses connection.

[@hasneansafaa]

Can I connect it to the phone?

[@faithndoukve]

What about the QFS ?

[@Charizard-c4l]

🇺🇸 🇨🇳 🇷🇺 🇸🇦 👽 ⚫️

[@DrCryptoAlex]

Safepal is better

[@mikooooo9390]

Is there a link where or website that I can buy this hardware?

[@WeiFinder]

Have you tried oh I don't know googleing "buy trezor wallet"

[@cryptobra5933]

You forgot to add that ledger can recover your seed phrase in the case of govt investigation

[@izaigacet9437]

Even if you don’t opt in to the recover program??

[@RainBitcoins]

@@izaigacet9437 probably

[@Nushima96]

@@izaigacet9437 No you would have to opt in. Just people spreading fear about something they don't understand. Now that connect kit hack yesterday on the otherhand was bad and if anything you might considering switching because of that.

[@openingbarley0939]

Can Trevor do the same if the government forced them?

[@benjamink4861]

Could passphrase accounts be at risk as well?

[@krishnav2108]

Nope. Passphrase isn't stored anywhere except in your own memory. So it's not at risk

[@TrezorWallet]

🚀🚀🚀

[@CALCOBRA94]

What happens if u lose this hardware wallet??? Can u buy another and just input ur password?

[@jct3439]

Yes

[@El_Cristofaro]

Using neither

[@hareshsanichara8352]

Hey where getting to buy

[@WeiFinder]

Use google bro

[@deeepraveen]

Trevor still micro usb though

[@jp62200]

New model safe 3 with usb-c for 10usd more.

[@carltonbanks194]

Didn't ledger just update their software that fundamentally implies a backdoor regardless of opting in or out of their new feature because the software update is universal?.....

[@Nicholas.Tsagkos]

But isn't open source more dangerous because anyone can edit the code?

[@caothang3485]

No, only the Trezor team can edit the code. But the code is visible for anyone else to see.

[@mgord9518]

No, anyone can *request* the source code be changed, but the changes must first be verified by whoever manages the project Open source is an inherently more secure design

[@JS-jr1fo]

@@mgord9518not necessarily… open source also allows for my readily available 0 days. Security through obscurity still has its merits believe it or not.

[@jacquessimmons7981]

The ledger will be the main source all over the world!

[@wolfxman69]

Don’t agree I love my ledger

[@aumperialism]

wouldn't that also mean that Trezor has a code that can be searched for vulnerabilities? 🤔

[@FergusDerpson]

That's the whole point of open source , you allow everyone to figure it out

[@aumperialism]

@@FergusDerpson I know the point. Then someone will figure out how to sweep crypto off the drive too

[@mp0wa]

@@aumperialism When the code is open source, you have thousands of developers in a community that can fix any vulnerability or security issue that pops up. It's hard for one hacker or a small team to out-think a whole community.

[@aumperialism]

@@mp0wa Your point is valid

[@danielg2946]

I have both and use both, Trezor does not support SOL which is a pain, but cool for ETH and BTC. Oh yeah don't lose either they can be reverse engineered.

[@WhiteEvo6]

The open source nature of the Trezor is in my option less safe. Unciphered already hacked one and from what I read the hack is unfixable however it needs physical access to your Trezor, not impossible if you tell people you hold Bitcoin and they want it take it. At least with Closed source only the manufacture can cause issues vs open source you have millions of potential hackers with the full code looking for vulnerabilities.

[@mongjong59]

But how do we verify what they put in the device is exactly the open source code

[@coin2939]

Trezor sucks - it has absolutely zero protection to your BTC. I clicked onto a link without any approval or whatsoever btc was gone. I didn’t know until few days later. Yet meanwhile for us to move coins around we need to approve and whatever but was totally hackers friendly. Don’t say I did not warn you. Plus it’s not user friendly compare to Ledger.

[@luisa.3424]

Open source does not sound like a good idea, sorry.