Blade & Sorcery VS Hellsplit Arena - A Melee VR Comparison

[@longrodeater]

if both of these dev teams combined the strengths of these games it would be a legendary VR game

[@CreyRL]

So true maybe enemies to lovers

[@sniperkra]

Hellsplit with B&S with Bonelab/Boneworks = best game for the next 20 years

[@omphya6229]

It would, such a shame they both use different engines so if they for some reason planned to it's gonna be a difficult time

[@insaneyogurt4993]

@@sniperkra Nah, that doesn't mix well, b&s with hellsplit is a good one

[@saber2802]

@@sniperkra bonelabs would be in direct competition with blade and sorcery, and personally I prefer blade and sorcery

[@Luggy-]

Blade and sorcery is my choice just because of the mods it overhauls the game so much with mods like outer rim and secretory which allows bone breaking paralysing and survivable dismemberment

[@Reddhero12]

Secretory doesn't really work with the new U11 update though.

[@sorry1827e7]

What ifyou can't mod Because you only have the headset and no pc

[@Luggy-]

@@sorry1827e7 hellsplit is on pcvr only and blade and sorcery no pc still has modding but it isn’t as good as pc modding

[@sorry1827e7]

@@Luggy- wait really?

[@sorry1827e7]

@@Luggy- tyats awesome tysm

[@RectalProlapse69420]

Hellsplit has more satisfying combat, but it can get easy once you get used to it. The main problem I have with it is the games lack of content and mod support. Blade and sorcery has more of a jank feel but you can get used to it after a while, and it's got a lot more content. The problem with both games is they're basically just sandboxes. Legendary tales is the top of my list, it doesn't feel as good as either B&S or Hellsplit, but it's got enough content to make up for it, an actual objective, multiplayer, and has a big update supposedly coming this year.

[@Zeracey]

blade and sorcery needs multiplayer, idk what warpfrog are thinking but fully functional pve multiplayer would make the game so much more fun to play

[@thwomp1542]

@@Zeracey it's possible to do multiplayer with a mod, but pvp is currently impossible because of the way player hands work

[@Ormais]

just as an addition to this comment, ive heard that the team at Legendary Tales is aiming towards a November release of their update but i wouldn't take it as gospel, just a good idea of when to maybe expect it. They said this year at the very least.

[@Zeracey]

@@Ormais the new update will be lit

[@duckmaster5512]

I wana get it so bad but 35 dollars is to much

[@MrDrainy]

Never tried Hellsplit Arena so its nice to see a comparison to see what I've been missing

[@mamin3152]

Hellsplit looks much better on youtube, when I played it was much worse. You probably need a really good computer to have those graphics but I still have a high end PC and it isn't as good.

[@virtualinsider]

I recommend turning the supersampling up in the menu. I run at 1.4 and it looks great. For some reason when you turn up the supersampling in game performance goes to shit but when you load in a level it settles down again.

[@Lupain]

@@mamin3152 I would say an even better PC for B&S, while I like B&S a bit more it also runs much worse than Hellsplit Arena.

[@MrBCB]

@@mamin3152 It's my favourite VR game but sadly I can't play it anymore as my PC is in my bedroom, and my bedroom is too small to play VR. I don't know what my graphics settings were on, I never checked, and I don't have a particularly good PC, but I still thought the graphics were amazing.

[@penisinlargementpills2511]

@@Lupain You sure? I played Hellsplit Arena and got a headache because of the fps drops, but B&S rarely has them for me.

[@skelo9033]

I like the B&S dismemberment. It’s so realistic with how you have to hack and slice away at the enemy.

[@pal1d1nl1ght]

Yeah I like how it actually feels like you are hacking through bone and muscle, rather than butter.

[@spider219]

Yeah, I really wish they would live after I cut off an arm or a leg

[@Papa_Parry]

@@pal1d1nl1ght I mean, in hellsplit you are attacking what I assume are reanimated decomposing corpses, so it would make sense that they're a bit easier to chop through

[@pal1d1nl1ght]

@@Papa_Parry yeah, I wasn't refering to hell split. It's dismemberment makes sense for basically walking corpses. I've seen other games with dismemberment where it feels like even a rusty sword acts like a lightsaber.

[@Papa_Parry]

@@pal1d1nl1ght i know you were talking about b&s, i was just responding to the "feels like butter" bit

[@RedcoatTrooper]

A lot of people who played B &S don't realise how much better it has gotten in the last few updates. sword wielding enemies can now block and counter very well.

[@friendlyneighborhoodmemer18]

fr ive been playing b&s since early update 8 and its gotten sooooo much more better i even got myself both nomand and pcvr versions.

[@RedcoatTrooper]

@@friendlyneighborhoodmemer18 I have a PC but Nomad is so easy to just put on and play.

[@pingu8015]

I still think the AI is too janky compared to hellsplit - they often fall over, stand still and hit eachother

[@RedcoatTrooper]

@@pingu8015 part of that is the price you pay for being able to kick a stool at an enemy to trip them up. A personal thing for me is helsplit is all fighting skeletons and zombies I really enjoy that B &S has human enemies even if they are not the smartest.

[@milkinanime7047]

Half the shit he says can be done in B&S he was just real bad at it

[@TheRyman230]

I do like the choice of music in the background for this video! Really augments the medieval feel in both games and helps the immersion in your comparisons!

[@mikemjb2017]

It's the main menu theme from Remnant: From the Ashes

[@Neostrius]

I wish there was credit in the description, because I really want to know which song was used for the middle part of the video.

[@lastnamefirstname850]

@@Neostrius I knot I'm a year late but it sounds like something from god of war 2018. Probably the track called God of War.

[@vinlyght]

Hey for anyone wondering hellsplit has just recieved one of its biggest updates which includes climbing and guns. Pretty dope honestly

[@EezePuffy]

thx for telling me i havent checked in a while

[@r4ven22]

GUNS?!

[@arkle111]

As someone who has trained with a sword, blade and sorcery feels a lot more realistic. Especially when you bring mods into the mix. Hellsplit arena feels a lot more like an arcade experience

[@HiddenExp]

Hi! What mods do you say?

[@arkle111]

@@HiddenExp secotory particularily.

[@arkle111]

@Benjamin Ale yeh

[@HiddenExp]

@@arkle111 Oh nice! Sectory U11, thank you!

[@WetAdek]

@@HiddenExp As for me, the Medieval MegaPack Mod is a must have for B&S. It brings so many different, high quality weapons that it is actually mind blowing. Medieval, Roman, Nordic, Chinese, Japanese and many more... All the tools you need to slaughter, just like the old days!

[@Grayeques]

My experience with Blade and Sorcery dismemberment is you have to two-hand and be very accurate and fast with your swings. It does make it rewarding to cleanly take someone's head off in a fight.

[@Swordsoulreaver]

Surprisingly, I find it easier to dismember using one-handed weapons.

[@scottish_lunatic]

when i slice someones head off with the greatsword it makes me feel like im using the eyelander from tf2

[@idkanymore6897]

its extremely important to note that *hellsplit now as climbing & mod support with full integration for vehicles, modern guns, maps, campaigns, custom armor, blades, blade abilities and maybe more*

[@generaldropkick5644]

most the mods aren't great and the vehicles are a dumb gimmick.

[@shreddedninja]

The combat differences are because in B&S you're fighting 'living' people whereas in Hellsplit you're fighting undead and undead tend to be far less powerful and stable compared to living people.

[@PVT_White]

I really wish there were more options on twohanded grips for VR controllers so a 2 handed sword actually feels authentic

[@Grimcreaper02]

I’ve personally found that holding onto your right controller ring with your left hand adds a little more realism to it. Just be careful not to pull too hard lol

[@PVT_White]

@@Grimcreaper02 I smacked my wardrobe too much playing B&S so the rings already have a minimal wobble to it. I also tried grabbing onto a stick. Feels better but is still hella clunky.

[@josephkeen7224]

I personally don’t think a structured campaign would work right now with the state of physics bases melee combat in vr. From what I’ve seen the enemy ai that you mentioned is too stupid to have a structured campaign be fun or challenging. Legendary Tales might fix that with the fact that you have to put force into your blocks, but I don’t know yet because I haven’t played it.

[@Arakagurashi]

Yeah, I ended up dropping Hellsplit and Gorn over how easy it was to just pop the A.I's head, it ended up feeling like I was playing whack-a-mole instead of a VR medieval sword combat sim.

[@Elliotttate]

I don't think there's any reason Skyrim wouldn't work with the same combat style of these games. Their AI isn't really better.

[@chaosfire321]

Ehh disagree. Animations and NPC variety do a lot amp up difficult in my experience. Unfortunately, really splurging on that as well as AI is the realm of AAA developers at the moment.

[@SC4TTER_]

Hopefully Bonelab shows something

[@hattchetman_2128]

The ai wouldn't change anything. There is only so much fun to be had in sandbox. Any kind if campaign would be refreshing and fun no matter how the ai works. It makes the game replayability higher

[@Brother8237]

We just need these two games to combine efforts and you will have something beautiful

[@BigVorst]

3:04 There's some mods that sorta fix this, like Medival Megapack where a lot of the weapons can be half-sworded and it works very well. Sadly, the vanilla weapons are pretty much as bleh as you described them. As for the bladed weapons in B&S, yeah the lack of reaction from enemies being cut is... Annoying. Often leads to trading-blows. Stabbing in that game also just makes it feel too easy for me, since it's quite often a one shot if you puncture anywhere on the torso or head. And don't get me started on how often they will just... Walk into you, or bump into each other. As for magic, you can actually do some pretty sadistic stuff with the force magic, you can grab two limbs on an enemy and use it to pull their limbs from their body, you can channel elements through staves to do some nifty stuff too like telekinesis, shooting fireballs, and a pretty lethal lightning whip thing. Every spell has a sort of fusion move now too. You can make a gravity well with force, a kamehameha with lightning, and a blatantly OP meteor with fire.

[@MlgR221]

vanilla weapons are really good tbh

[@Bourgly]

About the guys walking into you in B&S- Sometimes it kills you in seconds if they walk into you a certain way

[@keztannis6848]

Look what they need to limit a FRACTION of our power...

[@BigVorst]

@@Bourgly Yup! I've had that happen so many times, where they just- Stab me through the neck because they walked into me.

[@BigVorst]

@@MlgR221 I don't really like them.

[@PoutyBun]

B&S became my game of all time for VR once you get in practice with fighting, twirling a bowstaff with both hands, and sweeping out the legs of enemies of you get good at fight with one

[@ARandomHumanBein]

6:33 it's called the "The Outer RIM" mod NOT the "The Outer WILDS" pack

[@luisgentil]

I know that 99% of people, if given the choice between either, will choose B&S because infinite replay value. But Hellsplit Arena is one hell lot of fun. Very arcadey, faster paced, buttery smooth gameplay and makes you feel like a total badass (instead of a psychopath). Definitely check it out.

[@MrBCB]

i agree

[@r1l3y72]

Ngl b&s players are bias tho if b&s was actually better they wouldn't have to mention the mod support for weapons and maps

[@MrBCB]

@@r1l3y72 exactly, hellsplit doesnt need mods to be good

[@r1l3y72]

@@MrBCB someone that understands! I love b&s but I just find it repetitive after a couple of minutes and I'm on nomad so I find it boring with mods aswell

[@MrBCB]

@@r1l3y72 same. Also, i hope this doesn't make me sound like a psychopath, but the gore in hellsplit is amazing lol

[@mrjtfang2]

I have issues with edge alignment in hellsplit, due to how bones work in the arms. ITs also worth nothing, in hellsplit you can't really cut, only dismember. Stabs seem to have little effect if you don't hit a fleshy head, too. Graphics also isn't THAT much better, technically, between the two. At least, in my opinion.

[@supermajesticman6608]

I think the environments are only a little bit better in Hellsplit. However, the enemies in B&S look pretty bad.

[@nordnerf5161]

Actually blazing sorcery has quite a few spells you can use combined spells where you combine the element spell of your choice such as fireball to create a magma ball which would cause an immediate explosion on impact

[@Cross_VR]

blade and sorcery*

[@Breadpal910]

So if both games combined there mechanics it would be the ultimate game

[@Nemoticon]

"...my horse comes over and does a big poo" is a vital and much appreciated part of the narration xD

[@pie7395]

Right now I feel like blade and sorcery is more of a prototype. I think the team is realy seeing what limits they can push for a realistic vr fighting game, and once all those limits are broken, an insane full game using blade and sorcery will be made.

[@unfixability]

well it kind of is, the main gamemode called crystal hunt comes out next update most likely, and then the full game release comes. it's still in beta.

[@artemaius]

It's literally in early access

[@user-es6wn6pz3e]

You forgot the part where you combine 2 spells of the same type to make it a lot more powerful, and the fact that imbuing a staff with spells gives it 2 unique abilities per spell. I think that alone adds a lot to the game.

[@Hoshi82]

And then there is Tales of Glory. A one man project with a complete campaign conquering back the throne of your father. Not as polished as the two games here but it compensates that with huge battles on the field, infiltrating, defending, a bit of army management, rpg elements. It's super fun and really good for what one person has done. But I also like both B&S and Hellsplit. Those three are my favourite VR melee games. Sadly none is the perfect game but they are fun nevertheless.

[@Hoshi82]

of course you can cut off limbs and heads. Gameplay wise its good as you have to manage your army, where to attack next. It also has a dungeon mode. Did you play the same game? I am talking about Tales of Glory. Not Legendary Tales

[@captaintryhard5891]

Great analysis of the two games mechanics. I cant wait till I finally get to try vr.

[@eeurr1306]

The problem with blade and sorcery is basically just the AI not feeling pain or blocking.

[@SteelRob21]

"B&S have mods, while Hell doesn't" That's all I needed to hear

[@floodmachine1868]

1 mod for star wars light sabres and 1 mod is weapon megapack. other mods are junk...

[@Helixxs]

​@@floodmachine1868 just not true

[@lordofcups78]

@@floodmachine1868 you really don’t have any fun if two mods are all you use I’ve got about 40 for my perfect experience

[@Bazed.]

@@lordofcups78 any chance of sharing some of the sauce?

[@grayanddevpdx]

@@Bazed. There’s some mods like modular pistols, where it adds working pistols to the game that you can manually reload. Cross-merge (I think that’s what’s it’s called) where you can mix more than 1 type of spell together. I’m sure there’s a lot more like that, just check most popular or most tending on nexus mods.

[@lukethe_great13]

Blade and sorcery is still in development, but even in the fact that people are comparing it in the stage it’s in, that just shows it will definitely overtake hellsplit arena.

[@valeravader7700]

Hellsplit updates sometimes too, ant it's comlete game- truth they both great

[@levisboxing8668]

facts

[@waffler-yz3gw]

If the updates continue to be the quality they are right now, definitely

[@kahm7212]

@Kayra Erdem it is very much so still in development. it is still in beta and hasn't been fully released as a complete game

[@kahm7212]

@Kayra Erdem why not? there are countless examples of devs and companies selling the games in beta. if you buy in beta youll have early access, and access when they fully release.

[@vincentciavone2610]

I have to say blade and sorcery’s weight is much more realistic has if you try to hold a heavy object fully extended you’ll find it bobbing if you can even keep your arm up

[@ethanstryjewski5956]

You didn’t miss a couple of things in Bladen sorcery if you block a fire ball if someone throws it at you, you can deflect it sometimes it will ricochet off your sword and hit them and also if you put any of the magic together, you could do a big attack. For instance, if you use the fireball and you put them together, you will make a big fire bowl that you can throw from any direction. There’s a big shock wave.

[@TheSeagullMan]

The best thing I found with B&S is a glitch which makes you giant and tracks perfectly but also makes two handed swords like the claymore really light.

[@MyEarsHurts]

You can also press the bottom button on your oculus controller to push the object away

[@friendlyneighborhoodmemer18]

Blade and Sorcery is in my opinion the better game it makes more fun and is easy to mod with a big modding community that is constantly growing.

[@valeravader7700]

they both great, but blade and sorcery more sandbox, hellsplit complete game, but just arena)

[@friendlyneighborhoodmemer18]

@@valeravader7700 hellsplit is complete and blade and sorcery is nowhere near complete and already compete with other complete games and even better than most of them lol.

[@LunaticStruggler]

I've played blade and sorcery, swordsman vr and hellsplit arena and all i want is a combination of all 3 of them

[@allarian8726]

I have both games, but B&S has easily more hours spent on it despite being bought later. The randomly generated dungeon is just too much fun, and some of the mods I could never see myself playing without again after trying them, Daggerbending being my favourite of all.

[@JubulusPrime]

B&S defnitly does not have enough animations, the enemies feel like robots, when you deflect an attack it never feels right, battle talent is much better if you are on the quest

[@trystanreadman1764]

i've personally played blade and sorcery but not hellsplit so i may be biased but i think it has more potential as graphics and polish are definible traits that have simple gaugeabilty while openness and entire systems require major effort and deviation.

[@ericwalsh2954]

A nice detail about b&s aloy of people don't realise is that stopping your sword before it goes through the enemy means they get cut, it's why so many people find it easier in slow mo, they actually follow through instead of using the sword like a baseball bat

[@Unknown-cv4fc]

6:02 I love the explanation of lightning

[@miojopronto595]

Hellsplit Arena is going to update to have a workshop for mods on steam soon. they already announced.

[@TheRealEreez]

Sword and Sorcery is my pick with all the mod choices

[@KiopysPlace]

I love you using the half-swording technique in hellsplit, refreshing to see people out there know it's effectiveness :D

[@PremortalVR]

Both games are an inspiration and I dissect them whenever I have a chance. It's quite the learning experience and has helped me improve my game

[@SkullpunkArt]

3:12 Ah yes, I love the slicing open my hand mechanic in hellsplit arena

[@Mistertje]

The stab attacks actually got fixed now and feel very realistic witch in my opinion makes me think hellsplit arena is almost perfect 👍

[@kermitthegameryt87]

blade and sorcery is not even at its full release yet so when it is fully out it will probably be much better

[@Galaxy-mm6kh]

If you want a mix of the two, I would recommend trying out Swordsman VR. The AI is not dumb. The AI actually calculates where you swing and then counters with an unscripted move. Meaning that you can't block its every moth with rythm, you actually have to react to a new move almost every time. The map also has a good selection of maps, boss battles, and a fully completed campaign. The AI also detects your vulnerablilities and exploit them to try and win. You can also control the difficulty, choose different maps, play against different types of enemies, and there is an option which makes armor super realistic. Like if you hit a samurai on any peice of armor, your weapon will be deflected. The graphics are also good. The lighting and the AI combined, as well with the armor physics and graphic quality, make this game feel polished. If you have not tried it already, you should compare it to both B&S and Hellsplit: Arena.

[@mathisfernandes9509]

so basically Blade and sorcery with mods

[@Galaxy-mm6kh]

@@mathisfernandes9509 Not really. The AI controlling the enemy watches and predicts your attack so it can counter. All attacks/counters are not scripted but auto generated to try to win.

[@LatinoAmigo.]

on the campaign thing, in 2023 (hopefully) they'll add something similar called crystal hunt or something where you can buy weapons (i think) and change stats and stuff

[@Game2Laugh]

I've seen blade and sorcery pc version graphics and they look pretty insane now, idk why but in some of these clips it looks like you're playing nomad, plus I already saw you replie to a comment talking about how nomad is more convient to play. So we're you playing nomad or pcvr version?

[@StalwartTirith]

3:50 "If you land a hit with the sword there's basically no reaction. You can see a huge gash, they'll flail and scream, and with a fatal blow will drop." Uh, I'm _pretty_ sure most people would consider that a reaction. You know, considering _it's a reaction_ :\

[@waffler-yz3gw]

wrong timestamp

[@virtualinsider]

I actually said "you have just caused a big open wound on their body and they dont really move or react other than screaming out in pain" watch the video, you can see they barely react to being slashed with a blade. Compare that to the way Hellsplit Arena enemies stumbled and move to hits.

[@JustMaxim37]

I personally prefer Blade & Sorcery. And I do think It makes sence for the enemies in B&S to be harder to dismember being living instead of Unead. Meaning you have to be more precice with the strikes to consistanly get the desired effect.

[@YeOldeGreen03]

Both games are fantastic, in my opinion, when you consider the modding community. For Blade and Sorcery, it isn't even close. There are a bunch of mods to fix bugs, some weapon handling, and a bunch of content. Unfortunately, Hellsplit Arena doesn't have any mods, but if it's vanilla Blade and Sorcery, Hell spilt Arena wins. [This is only my opinion.]

[@benzzy__]

The fact that he didn’t mention merging spells is enough to make me go crazy 😂

[@CrosswaIk]

I wish we could combine the 2. I'm a massive B&S fan but I'd love to see those Hellsplit enemies. The big pro here is the mod community for B&S, even the weighted weapon mods which fix that issue

[@KillVill75]

I havent played Hellsplit yet, but I been eyeing it. I have 100+ hrs in B&S though, I absolutely love it! The Mods really take it to a whole other level. Even without Mods its a solid game for $20.

[@omphya6229]

Gotta state my opinion real quick on Hellsplit, it's a great game but the lack of mods make it get boring after 8 hours or so. Which for a $20 price is maybe too expensive. But right now it's on a 20% sale so if you wanna get it I'd say now is your chance. It's worth it for this price for sure.

[@3nigmat1c35]

In the settings for blade and sorcery, you can turn off the wierd weapon lag by turing the rotation mode to rigid.

[@TheWoodWraith]

I hear Remnant: From The Ashes' theme! Glad to hear it again. :) Good video by the way. I personally like Blade and sorcery more, because I feel the weapon's capabilities is fairly realistic. Personally, I also think that B&S's enemies react about as much to getting hit as Hellsplits, but I could very much be wrong.

[@xDreII-is3rq]

It is really important to remember that B&S is still in early access and is still being worked on

[@table9818]

Both games are

[@ooooo8265]

Ok so we definetly a Hellblade Sorcery Arena game now

[@scran6395]

now hear me out on the Stab Attacks part, THEY ARE ZOMBIES WITH ROTTING FLESH THEY ARE GOING TO BE EASY TO PIERCE

[@King-yj2jx]

Try Until You Fall VR, it doesnt have a sandbox mode but its pretty fun

[@FeedMeChaos1]

"Lightning is basically some sith lord dark side shit-" And that's exactly what I use it for

[@Zonda.691]

I've only played B&S, one thing I want to include that they didn't mention is you can deflect spells back to the caster or a different target using your sword, and you can "enchant" your weapon with any of the three spells available. With that said, swinging a greatsword or claymore is a ton of fun in that game and you really feel the weight of your weapon when it comes crashing down on an npc. Only downside is the Maul doesn't do that well. The game is kinda lacking content in it's vanilla state though, when Crystal Hunt comes out, that's when you should buy the game unless you plan on modding

[@martinl1484]

on the topic of blade and sorcery I mean we have to remember that blade and sorcery is still in early access so everything can and WILL change while hellsplit arena is out of early access meaning there might be updates but they will not be something big like a new combat rehaul or new texture rehaul

[@Ratatouille--]

Now that U12 is out, the AI is much more reactive and actually have dodge animations when you try to hit them, and they also get staggered when they are hit!

[@Scrublord66]

mans got the remnant from the ashes music for the intro, sicc

[@TianLong72k]

6:01 "Sith lord dark side shit" lamo great way to put it

[@skypup-s1x]

Just gotta say before ive even watch this video. I really like both, even if one is better than the other. I think they are both really really fun and have there own thing going for them. Cant wait to watch this video^

[@trentfagan5154]

Blade and sorcery is available on quest as “blade and sorcery nomad” while hellsplit is only on pcvr

[@snekhuman]

this is a very fair review, just facts and clearly stated opinions, good job.

[@PossiblyKevinTV]

Remember, B&S got a massive update on the AI and plus U12 offers more with world breakables.

[@ronm6585]

Thank you.

[@Yursa_Luna]

Thank you for this comparison vid ^ ^ not sure what one I want to get. I really like the look and feel of Hellsplit. but the mods for Blade & Sorcery look like alot of fun.

[@ОлегЖданов-ъ1д]

The main difference: Blade and Sorcery remains interesting to play even after 100 hours, and Hellsplit: Arena gets boring after five to ten.

[@MetaQuePig]

9:16 now blade and sorcery has a campaign

[@Sorcerer1478]

fr

[@timbomb374]

it does feel weird when you swing something heavy and then stop and it goes past where you tried to stop like your wrist is made of rubber. I recon using physics system but also having the system automatically slow down the speed BEFORE reaching the stop point so it doesn't swing past it.

[@CrimsonEye64]

Does anyone know how to open the inventory in Blade & Sorcery on Quest 2?

[@SeanTheQuan]

you can’t you basically just put items in your pockets and back

[@SeanTheQuan]

unlike bone lab it has a inventory

[@CrimsonEye64]

@@SeanTheQuan I know Blade & Sorcery has an inventory because I've opened it before. However, the button combination for it is very weird & I can't remember it.

[@zapman2641]

@@CrimsonEye64like down towards your waist and press a/x

[@thegamerboss2440]

press a/x when your hand is at your chest

[@Nitecookie]

everyone else here is saying that the mods in b&s make the game so much better, but imo vanilla hellsplit is so damn fun and unlike blade and sorcery makes me feel like an actual badass knight. i'm not biased, since blade and sorcery was my favourite vr game until i got bonelab. hellsplit arena kinda makes me realise how much graphics can change in vr games. it makes me feel like an actual knight because the game is so much more polished, and blade and sorcery makes me feel more like i'm just some guy messing around (like bonelab or boneworks). one thing i noticed in hellsplit as well was the variety of enemy attacks and types. like the dark knights and heavily armoured enemies are so intimidating, but the people in b&s are just so goofy and unrealistic that they don't even feel like people that wanna kill me. in short, the enemies in b&s are soulless and goofy, while the enemies in hellsplit feel like they are actually conscious and are making critical decisions (which is kind of ironic since they're undead).

[@professionalneet5820]

If you're looking for other melee based vr games, legendary tales is a neat one.

[@DaleWillFail]

Only way to know if weapon weight is realistic, is by actually holding and swinging it irl.

[@Magmabot16]

I think the way blade and sorcery handles weapon weight is better because it prevents the player from just flailing their weapon around and encourages proper swordplay

[@Jay-corn3r]

Imagine if these devs worked together to make a game.

[@DrippyGatsu]

I want a game that has the Polish, gameplay and graphics of Hellsplit and the modsupport, sorcery and maps of blade and sorcery.

[@meka3711]

the background music is from the ost remnant from the ash

[@themostnoobrblx]

The conclusion just sums it up for me so blade and sorcery then

[@asteriskzFR]

I'm guessing this is a mod but was a citadel actaully added? I dont remember it at all.

[@screemy7254]

It's only on PC vr

[@thesam6875]

the horse poo bit was so unexpected i chuckled

[@ggsimmonds1]

"My horse comes over and has a big poo..." SOLD

[@Tallzom]

I think if they made the enemies more reactive in blades I think it would be perfect

[@FamilycrusadersAnd_The_Crew]

The harder level characters have a better AI. He didn't show the stronger opponents.

[@gopherchucksgamingnstuff2263]

To the Death or the Drum! That is my workout.

[@crypt0red560]

I have to say that combat wise hellsplit is my personal favorite, in hellsplit the enemies fight well and fight back but in blade and sorcery, you can take out an entire wave with just your fists, which IMO should not really be possible, on top of this the enemies really don't know how to fight and that is if they can even find you, or are even spawned in the first place without them doing a fake surrender and leaving the map.

[@lucascc2783]

Hellsplit arena's workshop is under development so i think theres going to be mods soon

[@bentsademon7046]

i wish you made a review on undead citadel it was a demo it was like hellsplit and blade and sorcery mixed together

[@doeydobar]

In hellsplit, you can also cut through areas in the torso, not just the limbs.

[@realfella1]

theres a torso dismemberment mod which adds this

[@ericwalsh2954]

Even b&s nomad enemy's can counter and block with they're parry hand

[@premopreoni]

Great review!

[@tahustvedt]

Hellsplit has zombies sliding on banana peels. Instant win!

[@rayanderson5797]

I've only played B&S myself, but from the looks of things, it seems that one is going for a bit more realism, and the other a bit more fantasy. Blade and Sorcery, despite having magic, makes effort to be more realistic. Armor is a major factor, with even the small metal plate on one kind of armor able to block a stroke if you happen to hit it. Leather, padded cloth, mail, and plates all have differences in how they protect their wearer, both the enemies and the player. It looks like, from this footage, that Hellsplit doesn't worry much about armor and just gives you some meat puppets to cut up. Which is fine, and it seems that they still can fight back, just that they don't really seem to have any protection. It certainly looks like you could probably play and enjoy both. Maybe akin to Halo and Call of Duty. Both similar, but also different enough that you could enjoy both in their own way.