VIS Balance Shaft Delete! 8k+ RPM Redline | MK6 Golf R

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FAZED

FAZED

Күн бұрын

Deleted my balance shafts so that I can increase my redline up to 8000 RPM or higher! I do already have titanium valve springs and retainers, as well as a few other mods to increase the rev limit.

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@nedc1871
@nedc1871 3 жыл бұрын
If I could I would give you the biggest bro hug right now because of this video
@FAZEDTom
@FAZEDTom 3 жыл бұрын
😆😆 we can do an internet fist bump instead I guess 👊🏻
@adamhorner7679
@adamhorner7679 4 жыл бұрын
Man this video is perfect ! Super detailed, Thanks!
@FAZEDTom
@FAZEDTom 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Adam!
@phillybarz
@phillybarz 7 ай бұрын
man this video was so clean detailed and full of info . going to be doing this job soon, this is my guide. Ill post back next month if my motor doesn't blow before then
@vicosee4439
@vicosee4439 4 жыл бұрын
It is good to use this on a good balance shaft unit not a damaged or worn out one so that your oil pressure is not affected
@Justinwhat1
@Justinwhat1 3 жыл бұрын
Dude, I appreciate this video. My oil pump failed and I’m about to go to the junkyard to do this. Bought the same WASA freewheel.
@FAZEDTom
@FAZEDTom 3 жыл бұрын
I hope your engine is ok man. Good luck
@mikey1696-k1e
@mikey1696-k1e Ай бұрын
Great video thank you. Im planning on doing it on my Golf 6 R. How long did the all operation take you?
@MASPerformanceVAG
@MASPerformanceVAG 4 жыл бұрын
There's a hole specifically for locking out the oil pump wheel so you can torque it 👍🏻
@FAZEDTom
@FAZEDTom 4 жыл бұрын
Oh really? So do you mean there's a second hole different than the one I used for the VIS sprocket? I couldn't find a second hole. The one I used to counter hold the VIS sprocket would've worked for the oil pump sprocket too if I was installing OEM sprockets, but the free wheel makes the hole in the video unusable for the oil pump sprocket. Hopefully I asked that question clearly.
@MASPerformanceVAG
@MASPerformanceVAG 4 жыл бұрын
@@FAZEDTom pm in my fb page as you can't post pictures in these comments. facebook.com/MAS.Performance.VAG/
@levenaigwatches1148
@levenaigwatches1148 5 ай бұрын
Bought the WASA. I am not an expert myself but luckily Wasa Motor were very helpful. Thanks guys, if you are reading this!
@oudjehihefayecale936
@oudjehihefayecale936 Жыл бұрын
Dziękuję, życzę dalszych sukcesów ❤
@JoeyS5
@JoeyS5 4 жыл бұрын
Great video man!! ***THIS ALSO WORKS FOR THE B7 A4 FSI 2.0T MOTOR EXACTLY***
@FAZEDTom
@FAZEDTom 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Joey!
@arankaspar5165
@arankaspar5165 3 жыл бұрын
Thinking of doing this on mine while I check the oil pickup hoping for the dual-inlet revised type. Perfect video, perfect. So hard to find quality material on the B7 platform which has the same engine but longitudinal. Hope you still have the car and continue to make future content. 2 questions, How bad was the vibration after? Some people says it's not bad at all. How long did the engine run after that?
@lufile7036
@lufile7036 4 жыл бұрын
This is the best video.
@adam95190
@adam95190 9 ай бұрын
I can’t thank you enough for this video
@harrisdoesthings
@harrisdoesthings 4 жыл бұрын
Finger magnets... Why haven't I thought of this before, awesome vid!
@FAZEDTom
@FAZEDTom 4 жыл бұрын
Hahaha thanks brother. They're usually one of those little things you can grab next to the cash register as you're checking out at autozone 😂 but they come in handy all the time!
@Justinwhat1
@Justinwhat1 3 жыл бұрын
Finger magnets. ✅
@Dizzie20vt
@Dizzie20vt 3 жыл бұрын
Probably only happened to me but the tip of my screwdriver snapped off holding the balance shafts while doing the 90deg!!! Didn’t plan on removing the whole lot to retrieve it. If the pump isn’t fitted to the engine then drop a socket between the balance shafts to lock them up for doing up the new bolt 😁
@FAZEDTom
@FAZEDTom 3 жыл бұрын
Oh my 😂😂😂😂 that sucks man lmao. I was afraid of that
@tonylyons2414
@tonylyons2414 Жыл бұрын
@FAZED are you still making videos? Iv got a golf mk6 R it’s in being built fully forged top to bottom but only running a G25-660 turbo as it’s the set up for fast street racing but if i ever chose to run bigger I’ll get bigger,but tbh for what i need the G25-660 will be real good for me,I’ll see about 555 bhp ish and very good torque because I’m running the RS3 7 Speed dsg box that can take up to 1000ft/lb where as the DQ250 is only good for 450ft/lb ish but hopefully you’ll be doing more videos Vlogs ect as these Mk6 Rs are the best shape golf’s imo
@infomomoney7120
@infomomoney7120 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome details! Going to be replacing my Oil Pump in my a4 2.0t fsi. Not a lot of videos that break it down as well as yours. How is the chain replaced if broken?
@FAZEDTom
@FAZEDTom 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Byron 👍🏻 I hope it goes smoothly. I'm not sure but I would hope you can slide the chain onto the crank once you remove the oil pump assembly.
@Dammsport
@Dammsport 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent guide for doing this....
@FAZEDTom
@FAZEDTom 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@JoseLopes-ux9hq
@JoseLopes-ux9hq 3 ай бұрын
After making the modification, how were the engine vibrations??
@fod293
@fod293 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video, very well explained. Just fitted my vis freewheel today.
@FAZEDTom
@FAZEDTom 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, happy to help
@sky1802
@sky1802 4 жыл бұрын
Damn, The amount of work just to put the free spin sprocket. VW and stretch bolt = Business.
@FAZEDTom
@FAZEDTom 4 жыл бұрын
I think the video makes it look like more work than it really is haha, but needing to take the pan off a second time after forgetting to reinstall the plastic chain cover was pretty annoying lol
@phonkyfeel1
@phonkyfeel1 Жыл бұрын
@@FAZEDTom I felt bad for you, but also laughed because my potential to goof is ever-present…and similar has happened before. Carrying too many thoughts at once is usually the culprit. Thanks for the great video. I’m about to do this shit with my son. He has been telling me to do this for over a year haha
@troy_19_
@troy_19_ 3 жыл бұрын
Worth replacing the chain too or no?
@tonylyons2414
@tonylyons2414 Жыл бұрын
I no it’s an old video but iv only just come across it,answer to your question is DEFINITELY YES,hopefully you did use a new chain if you did this mod
@peanutwalter9602
@peanutwalter9602 11 ай бұрын
Use a 6mm screw there is a minhoke in the pan for the gear for oilpump
@phonkyfeel1
@phonkyfeel1 Жыл бұрын
Do you recommend service position and removing intake manifold for this mod? Or car lift helps, if not doing service position/IM removal?
@blatt5478
@blatt5478 8 ай бұрын
Hello, is it possible to see whether the oil strainer is dirty/closed or not via the oil drain plug with an endoscope camera? Can you make a video for us to see if that is possible? Thanks
@frankiejoseph1916
@frankiejoseph1916 4 жыл бұрын
BRO, I'M DOING THIS TOMORROW AND I WAS DREADING IT SO BAD BUT AFTER WATCHING YOUR VIDEO, I'M CONFIDENT IT WILL BE FAST! THANKS SO MUCH FOR YOUR TUTORIAL 👍👌✌👏
@FAZEDTom
@FAZEDTom 4 жыл бұрын
🤣 I'm glad to help. I'm a big proponent of constantly pushing your own boundaries so I'm happy to hear you're giving it a go! Let me know how it goes 👌🏻
@abderrahmanegouasmi7556
@abderrahmanegouasmi7556 10 ай бұрын
HI! it is interesting what you show. i went to the web site of VIS and i did not find the wheel to buy! is there a link to find this piece of sprout wheel. thank you
@stefanschulte1
@stefanschulte1 2 жыл бұрын
Great video very helpful.
@demonkiller3418
@demonkiller3418 4 жыл бұрын
Any NVH from this? Same as a single mass flywheel probably or no? Also how were you not scared going face to face with your crankshaft 😂
@FAZEDTom
@FAZEDTom 4 жыл бұрын
Lol it's a little sketchy anytime I do something for the first time. There's definitely some more NVH from this mod, and the severity depends on how stiff your mounts are 👍🏻I would say the SMF mainly adds noise and driveline harshness whereas the balance shaft delete mainly adds vibration, so different kinds of NVH
@markmkv940
@markmkv940 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I just did mine. Absolutely atrocious driving the car now. If you don’t plan on revving over 7000 it’s useless. Plus these cars make all the torque down low anyways. Don’t reccomend.
@BittaThisBittaThat
@BittaThisBittaThat Жыл бұрын
Not a fan of this mod? Im about to do it to my Mk6 R@@markmkv940
@hazemermana3074
@hazemermana3074 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the nice jop and advices
@FAZEDTom
@FAZEDTom 4 жыл бұрын
No problem, Hazem. Thanks for watching man.
@george26262
@george26262 3 жыл бұрын
Great video thanks helped a lot!
@JH-oh1in
@JH-oh1in 3 жыл бұрын
Tape the socket to the extension. Saves heart ache.
@daniellaws4123
@daniellaws4123 3 жыл бұрын
What was the torque setting on the oil pump sprocket bolt?
@TheMixOnly
@TheMixOnly 2 жыл бұрын
Hello. I saw on the internet some kits delete balance shaft with wheel + screw + 1 more washer. did you have that washer? if so where did it go if not, ok. thanks
@FAZEDTom
@FAZEDTom 2 жыл бұрын
hey I don’t remember a washer being in this kit
@optony9606
@optony9606 Жыл бұрын
how different does the engine run? I want to do this on a gti
@bricepalustran9204
@bricepalustran9204 2 жыл бұрын
Hello. Did you manage to tighten to 20Nm + 90 degres? It’s so hard I can’t!
@FAZEDTom
@FAZEDTom 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Brice I don’t think I got all the way lol but I think I got close
@lomaxbozo
@lomaxbozo 3 жыл бұрын
hi, so a delete will increase vibrations ?
@FAZEDTom
@FAZEDTom 3 жыл бұрын
Yes it will. The stiffer your mounts, the more noticeable they'll be.
@ajetauto5592
@ajetauto5592 4 жыл бұрын
I have stage 1 mk5 gti fsi. I don’t want balance shaft issues in the future with high mileage. Is this worth? How bad are the vibrations?
@FAZEDTom
@FAZEDTom 4 жыл бұрын
I'd replace the oil pump assembly if you're worried about failure at high mileage, but if you're looking to increase your rev range then I'd look at this free wheel. I didn't have stiff engine mounts so the vibrations did noticeably increase but they weren't bad. If you have very stiff engine mounts then there will be a considerable amount of added vibration.
@Alvaro-es1dv
@Alvaro-es1dv 3 жыл бұрын
What oil have you been using? everything looks very brown
@FAZEDTom
@FAZEDTom 3 жыл бұрын
I was using Castrol at the time, the OEM stuff to be exact
@andrewanderson7230
@andrewanderson7230 3 жыл бұрын
How much do you torque the oil pump bolt
@arankaspar5165
@arankaspar5165 2 жыл бұрын
How long did the engine run after that?
@FAZEDTom
@FAZEDTom 2 жыл бұрын
Had the engine built and they didn’t install the thrust washers correctly lmao lasted a week
@phonkyfeel1
@phonkyfeel1 Жыл бұрын
@@FAZEDTom this engine failed after this mod?
@alexpalmer5503
@alexpalmer5503 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, I noticed that you did not blocked the oil feed on the engine BLOCK, I was told that if you disable the balancing shaft you will also need to block the oil feed so that oil pressure is maintained, is the correct? Thank you
@FAZEDTom
@FAZEDTom 4 жыл бұрын
Hey I didn't hear about this. Do you mind clarifying what you mean? What exactly is being plugged?
@seanohlendorf5123
@seanohlendorf5123 4 жыл бұрын
When you do the freewheel, there is no need. The only time welding the galleries is needed is when you remove damaged shafts. Also this freewheel won't help if your shafts are already damaged. Preventative only
@Justinwhat1
@Justinwhat1 3 жыл бұрын
I think he’s saying: without the balance shafts rotating, you will lose oil pressure by the oil coming out of the holes that lubricate them, therefore block the feed to the balance shafts.
@J3HST3R75
@J3HST3R75 4 жыл бұрын
@FAZED do you have to time the oil pump sprocket ?
@FAZEDTom
@FAZEDTom 4 жыл бұрын
Nope, the oil pump is not timed 👍🏻
@J3HST3R75
@J3HST3R75 4 жыл бұрын
FAZED thanks man
@alex_razmyakin
@alex_razmyakin 2 жыл бұрын
Thanx a lot!
@fordstrait
@fordstrait 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have a part number for the new metal gasket by chance??
@FAZEDTom
@FAZEDTom 2 жыл бұрын
sorry catching up on old comments but not sure what gasket you’re talking about
@tonybig78
@tonybig78 3 жыл бұрын
Shafts are connected on the inside just stick the screw driver in the same hole you did for the other cog to do the oil cog up!Lol
@FAZEDTom
@FAZEDTom 3 жыл бұрын
Right but the oil pump doesn't spin when you tighten that bolt down...the freewheel on the sprocket does. Sticking a screwdriver in that hole won't stop the freewheel from spinning, that's the whole purpose of this mod haha.
@tonybig78
@tonybig78 3 жыл бұрын
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@tonybig78
@tonybig78 3 жыл бұрын
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@ArfanZakeri88
@ArfanZakeri88 4 жыл бұрын
Will this method not work for the BPY 2.0tfsi motor as well? I have a 06 Passat and I would like to delete the balance shafts as I'm replacing the oil pump sprocket,chain and tensioner. Is there something like this available for the BPY motor?
@FAZEDTom
@FAZEDTom 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Arfan, yes this is actually a BPY motor in my car. Good luck!
@ArfanZakeri88
@ArfanZakeri88 4 жыл бұрын
@@FAZEDTom awesome, I ended up ordering it from Wasamotor.com as I found out they were the originators of the sporcket. I really appreciate it I can finally get rid of the balance shaft issues.
@jedediahsmart569
@jedediahsmart569 4 жыл бұрын
Isn't this an elegant solution to the balance shaft issue? Also, all that weight that is no longer spinning is supposedly good for 20 HP or so.
@FAZEDTom
@FAZEDTom 4 жыл бұрын
It sure is! I'm a big fan of not needing to cut the gears out. This is definitely the easiest option out there for "deleting" the shafts. Yeah, the balance shafts are definitely a parasitic drain on your power so that's a nice added bonus. The biggest benefit of this solution is probably its reversibility but I don't foresee myself ever uninstalling this. With this being my first car and having learned so much and poured so much of myself into it, I don't plan to ever get rid of it.
@ViceVersace
@ViceVersace 3 жыл бұрын
@@FAZEDTom hello, I completely understand your point about this being your baby, lol. I am at the same place as you are and still learning but a guy on a forum was saying that is has its drawbacks such as bigger vibrations and for street use it kinda shortens its life. From my understanding you might not have those gears and shafts holding the pistons back to do their job but it’s kinda like dead weight to the engines mass. What would happen if you’d pull them out completely?
@mariosanchez9441
@mariosanchez9441 Жыл бұрын
Can you share the link whre you got parts.?
@ntdnr1JeanClaud
@ntdnr1JeanClaud 3 жыл бұрын
If the chain skips when installing, could that cause a problem?
@FAZEDTom
@FAZEDTom 3 жыл бұрын
From my understand the oil pump isn't "timed" with respect to the crank, if that's what you're asking. So the position of the chain doesn't really matter.
@ntdnr1JeanClaud
@ntdnr1JeanClaud 3 жыл бұрын
@@FAZEDTom Thanks for the reply. So just need to counterhold the crank, no problem if the crank moves a bit? Going to do mine next week
@FAZEDTom
@FAZEDTom 3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't be worried about the crank moving clockwise a little (assuming your timing belt is still on)
@liammackail9863
@liammackail9863 4 жыл бұрын
How was it after and will this be the exact same for an s3 8p ? Thanks
@FAZEDTom
@FAZEDTom 4 жыл бұрын
The 8p S3 has the same ea113 motor so yes everything should be identical. You may just have an oil pressure sensor in your pan but that won't affect any of the steps in this video. It's good so far man, I don't think there was much added vibration/harshness at all but I think it comes down to your motor mounts, my mounts aren't aggressive.
@liammackail9863
@liammackail9863 4 жыл бұрын
FAZED nice one mate thanks a lot I’ll be giving it a go tomorrow got my shaft from vis also I am hoping to avoid taking the other sprocket off because I don’t have another stretch Bolt any idea what’s it’s called ? My friend works at vw so might try get one just incase ?
@melimf124
@melimf124 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, where. They Buy sprocket part?
@FAZEDTom
@FAZEDTom 2 жыл бұрын
It’s from the company VIS. They used to sell em on eBay but not sure if they do that anymore. I’d contact them directly if you’re having trouble
@dennisbeukers2841
@dennisbeukers2841 4 жыл бұрын
I have a stock mk5 gti and the bold in the gear of my balance shaft is broken, since you cant buy just that bold im doing a balance shaft delete like you did. How do you think it will go vibration wise? Because as far as i know the whole car is Stock
@FAZEDTom
@FAZEDTom 4 жыл бұрын
I think you're better off just buying a replacement oil pump/balance shaft assembly. I have a spare one if you're interested, it'll be cheaper than deleting the balance shafts and you won't need to deal with increased vibration. You can find me as Fazed Golfr on Facebook or fazed.yt on Instagram
@jasonsavage2406
@jasonsavage2406 4 жыл бұрын
Lost two bolts on a 1.8t with the same issue with the bolts falling in to the housing. Just used a hammer and kept tapping the housing till they jumped out lol.
@FAZEDTom
@FAZEDTom 4 жыл бұрын
Oh gosh lol. That's a good idea!
@roman9112
@roman9112 3 жыл бұрын
Hi,good job👍is it done the same on ea113?
@FAZEDTom
@FAZEDTom 3 жыл бұрын
Hi yes this is only for the ea113 haha 👍🏻
@malcolmsaysomethinggreatka2017
@malcolmsaysomethinggreatka2017 Ай бұрын
Is it just me, or how's about removing that dead wait?
@scitec6166
@scitec6166 Ай бұрын
I was thinking that but it's probably loads of work
@YogisGarage
@YogisGarage 3 жыл бұрын
👍🏼
@MrHadzo
@MrHadzo 2 жыл бұрын
did you time the pump?
@FAZEDTom
@FAZEDTom 2 жыл бұрын
no, not necessary
@dxmnc
@dxmnc 4 жыл бұрын
would i be able to use this if my balance shafts were worn?
@FAZEDTom
@FAZEDTom 4 жыл бұрын
I'd replace them unless you're looking to build your motor and rev it over 8k RPM.
@vicosee4439
@vicosee4439 4 жыл бұрын
If your balance shafts are worn and you have play you will loose oil presure
@dxmnc
@dxmnc 4 жыл бұрын
@@vicosee4439 yea i do have low oil pressure, only at idle though, thinking about dropping the oil pan and seeing whats going on down there
@vicosee4439
@vicosee4439 4 жыл бұрын
@@dxmnc yes at idle the pump pumps less hence lo pressure at sensor wich is higher in the motor. I Bought a nice original pump on ebay from a guy in Florida that inspects cleans and actually gives you all the hardware for $220. also check your connecting rod wich is the most dangerous failure you could have . Also if you've been driving with low pressure most likely they have wear and you could be losing pressure there also
@Steelhorse-enthusiast
@Steelhorse-enthusiast 2 жыл бұрын
Have you or anyone had any issues with this freewheel I would hate for me to install it and a year or two down the line it fails
@FAZEDTom
@FAZEDTom 2 жыл бұрын
Hey I haven’t heard of any failures but maybe ask in some Facebook groups
@skkane
@skkane Жыл бұрын
A mate had it on his stg2+ edition 30 mk5. He's currently looking for a new engine =)
@phonkyfeel1
@phonkyfeel1 Жыл бұрын
@@skkane please give more details. Was his engine failure proven to be related to this mod? Back up your cause for concern please. Thank you
@jp450r
@jp450r 3 жыл бұрын
will this work on a 2012 GTI?
@FAZEDTom
@FAZEDTom 3 жыл бұрын
No, the mk6 gti has a TSI EA888 engine. This is for FSI EA113 engines such as mk5 gti, mk6 golf r, 8p a3/S3, mk2 tts.
@Mrtom40
@Mrtom40 3 жыл бұрын
How was it mate was it better
@FAZEDTom
@FAZEDTom 3 жыл бұрын
Engine didn't last long due to other issues 😞
@Mrtom40
@Mrtom40 3 жыл бұрын
@@FAZEDTom oh know 😞
@FAZEDTom
@FAZEDTom 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mrtom40 all good, I have a 5 cylinder golf r now. I'll be posting videos again soon
@Mrtom40
@Mrtom40 3 жыл бұрын
@@FAZEDTom dam yeah defo get some videos uploaded So would you still recommend doing this mod ?
@minimanadam
@minimanadam Жыл бұрын
Yeesh , you put that prybar on the plastic chain guide to hold the sprocket while tightening.. ABSOLUTELY DO NOT EVER pry against that.
@ghost92dz10
@ghost92dz10 4 жыл бұрын
what about vibrations ?
@FAZEDTom
@FAZEDTom 4 жыл бұрын
The stock damper helps most at idle and low RPM, whereas this damper helps most at high RPM. So, you'll have some increased vibration at idle but a smoother engine at high RPM. I've found that the increase in low-RPM vibration is barely noticeable but it largely depends on how stiff your mounts are.
@ghost92dz10
@ghost92dz10 4 жыл бұрын
@@FAZEDTom i have golf 5 gti stock and i went delete balance shaft, so I'm afraid of having vibrations afterwards
@FAZEDTom
@FAZEDTom 4 жыл бұрын
Your gti is stock? So the point of the balance shaft delete is to prevent them from seizing when revving near 8k RPM. There wouldn't be any point in installing this on a stock gti bc it can't safely rev that high
@ghost92dz10
@ghost92dz10 4 жыл бұрын
ok thx bro
@rutazelvyte9857
@rutazelvyte9857 4 жыл бұрын
There is a point cuz the stock sprocket will fail one day as it did on mine and does on all 2.0tfsi engines then the chain will break and you will lose oil pressure.
@lucassarielcendra9069
@lucassarielcendra9069 Жыл бұрын
Donde venden esos piñones?
@antonio67390
@antonio67390 4 жыл бұрын
Thank's for your Video
@FAZEDTom
@FAZEDTom 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, Antonio
@8gti9
@8gti9 4 жыл бұрын
Great DIY. But wtf is up with your thumb? Lol it looks like it bending backwards.
@FAZEDTom
@FAZEDTom 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! And lmao, what time in the video?
@SiyxmTTS
@SiyxmTTS 3 жыл бұрын
8:39
@cobraart2006
@cobraart2006 4 жыл бұрын
Bro i am doing my engine right now. Can u give me ur insta, i want to ask u a few things.
@FAZEDTom
@FAZEDTom 4 жыл бұрын
I'll do my best to help! My IG is @fazed.mk6r
@amg863
@amg863 2 жыл бұрын
@@FAZEDTom doesn't work
@tbmliswa
@tbmliswa Жыл бұрын
Can it be done on an Audi A6 2.0 TDI?
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