How to Use Blue Tape for 3D Printing Bed Adhesion

[@jasond.valentine5931]

The guy on the right sure LOVES to interrupt.

[@snugglyjeff214]

yeah when you do these things, one person at a time should be talking. We aren't having a conversation with each other. You are presenting information, and if you want it to be professional and comprehensible, then one person at a time talking. You guys follow a script? Should work out who is saying what parts.

[@xl000]

Don't people know that they can put the blade on something called a box cutter at 1:38 ? Not sure why so many people insist on using blades with their bare hands. If someone knows the answer..

[@VisionMiner]

Sounds like sorcery to me... hahaha! Actually, Cole is just... like that. Edge of danger, you know, always pushing the limits... :D

[@CC-kc5lb]

Tape is for painting and packaging buy a glass bed or cf plate

[@VisionMiner]

agreed

[@SergeantJackHarris]

Blue painter's tape was the magic bullet that made me succeed with 3D printing. I have a further pro tip; if you cover the entire print surface with the tape, avoiding gaps and overlaps as demonstrated in this video, then you can get tons of life out of this build surface by relocating your prints in your slicer to other areas of the bed. I have to redo the tape maybe once every six weeks or so. When the tape in the center starts to wear thin or tears when I'm removing a print, then I'll start printing in the center at the rear of the bed, or on the left side of the bed. It works a treat.

[@infernaldaedra]

I actually have found that I prefer to print on just clean glass as I love the bottom finish on prints, if I'm printing something with a tendency to curl I'll use a adhesive, I use to use glue stick for everything and recently switched to printer bed adhesives prints are still pooping right off and it still retains the beautifully glossy first layers.

[@VisionMiner]

Glass is definitely awesome. Sometimes we like a texture on the bottom, but most of the time, perfectly flat mirror finish is the best!

[@gregphillpotts5478]

I had the same issue. New to 3d, after a few prints got the dog printed and now I'm having issues getting first layer adhesion and bed levelling. I will go through the mods you have shown here and look into the auto bed levelling. Thanks for the help.

[@harkoharko9]

You are making a fkng 3 year study of taping ... it's simply taping a bed. That's it, you can tape it however you want, it's clear that you can't overlap. :S

[@VisionMiner]

Well, you can overlap, and it'll still work.... hah! Moreover our glue will basically save you lots of time and money in the long run, but if you're in a bind, tape works :)

[@saultigh4103]

Thank you! This painter tape is only thing that helps with adhesion of small prints on my printer (which has a glass bed). Nothing else worked except this!! Thanks a lot

[@VisionMiner]

Our glue will definitely help :) No more brims!

[@jody.lumbantoruan]

jeez, speak one at the time

[@phasesecuritytechnology6573]

No such thing as good blue tape. The quality masking tape is green, not blue. Green frog tape does not tear from itself and lasts for days if not weeks without leaving residue or lifting from the substrate. I learned this in mecp certification training when making custom molds with fiberglass resin. Blue tape sucks and thats what it is designed to do.

[@phasesecuritytechnology6573]

A better way to cut the tape is not to use the very corner edge of the razor blade but use the blade towards its center and push instead of pull at a 70 degree angle to the plate and just glide it all the way down the edge. Make sure the tape is folded slightly down over the edge. You will get a safe perfectly straight edge every time as it uses the edge of the plate as a guide.

[@gregruckstuhl4268]

I actually make a note not to touch the plate with my hands .... being oil from your skin is the worst thing that will kill your print right from the start.....I don't know how thay got that to print after both of them had there hands all over it rubing it constantly.....I use the flat edge of a plastic scraper to lay down the tape in the same approach making sure to keep things as clean as possible....🧐😁 Any how outher then that it's an all right video 😁

[@ViperaRaddei]

Tossing this out here - blue tape isn't working. The "curl" of some parts - especially large, flat bases - is strong enough to pull the tape off of the glass bed. I've had to abandon this technique.

[@VisionMiner]

100% correct -- many materials warping, such as nylon, will be too much for the adhesive on the tape itself, causing the tape to fold up. This method is really just a last resort for basic materials, if nothing else is working :)

[@aerohard]

For God's sake, man, tape the whole thing first, then flip it over and cut from the bottom.

[@chrisallen3966]

Stupid question, but I can’t find the answer (my search led me to this video). Should you change your plate temp if you’re using tape? I’m at 55 C normally with PLA, but it’s not sticking great, and I’m switching to PETG soon so I’m gonna try using tape, but I’m not sure what to do about the temp setting

[@VisionMiner]

Yes, change your temps to make it work. Hotter makes the plastic softer to reduce warping -- don't be afraid of cranking it up!

[@cryingeva]

I’m printing abs,pc,pa never use the shit blue tape ,just A piece of carbon fiber plate and glue stick

[@VisionMiner]

Totally -- it doesn't work very well for anything more than PLA, lol! Do you use brims? Our Nano Polymer Adhesive is even BETTER than gluestick, depending how often you print! (we don't use brims on ANYTHING anymore! It's awesome!)

[@cryingeva]

No brim or raft ,just 7093 glue sticks

[@stevenjones2371]

all i can say is 3d printing its a art form everyone that prints its a up down

[@Bjtttt]

Question, I have a ender 3 pro so a flexible magnetic removable bed, and it has a build tec surface, will the tape ruin the grip?or can I put the tape directly on the magnet under neath?

[@VisionMiner]

you should be able to put it on the build tak just fine, but you shouldn't really need it with the build tak. If your build tak is worn out, you can use our Nano Polymer Adhesive to refresh it and it will work great! :)

[@elias.v.e.]

Do you also need to aply tape when you have a 3d printer with a heated bed?(I don't know much about 3d printers)

[@VisionMiner]

only if you're having issue with adhesion

[@mahendradhungel8011]

Too much work, basic hair spray for the win

[@Pyromaniak2020]

Does the glue stick help with easy removal after the print is finished? In my experience(using PLA), The print adheres just fine to the paper tape, but ends up tearing the tape off the build plate when I remove the part.

[@VisionMiner]

Not always.... with nano polymer, though, parts pop themselves off usually, once the plate cools :)

[@geo11211]

I am a beginner and i have a easy threed 3d printer Nano because its in my budget and i live in apartment will i be able to use your adhesive on my bed its alittle over 4 1/2 x 5 inches with a removeable bed. Thanks Happy New Year

[@VisionMiner]

For sure! It will work great. We have samples at www.visionminer.com/sample :)

[@MagoMakes]

Stop interrupting him. Annoying. Ditched.

[@buddhimanivantha6719]

All those talking, i expected to watch how it actually works. Thought you will show a print.

[@VisionMiner]

I mean, it looks like any other print :) Works great for PLA!

[@JanKowalski-kz5rq]

Hi everybody, I print on the glass bed and for me the best solution for good adhesion is ... WATER WITH SUGAR. Just before printing I wipe the warm bed (50-60 deg C) with cloth soaked sweet water. After 1 minute you have thin sticky layer on your bed - IT WORKS GREAT !

[@VisionMiner]

* for PLA.... "best solution" is quite subjective lol. But yeah, sugar actually does work! We have a short funny video on using maple syrup.... hah! Crazy stuff.

[@millpreetk1406]

quick question, does the adhesive come off easily( maybe wash or something if I wanna print without it? or is it like a semi permanent coating on that piece of glass.

[@VisionMiner]

Yep, rinses off very easily with water :)

[@AtlantisRouTou]

All this stuff is for pla only. Print abs and twill unglue from the bed quickly

[@VisionMiner]

absolutely correct

[@security1guy]

Excuse me I am trying to understand are you putting sticky side down or up?

[@VisionMiner]

Sticky side down

[@jesuspomales]

Would love to get a sample of the nano polymer

[@GeoDroidJohn]

Best tool in the box

[@maddestmike5791]

Why blue tape specifically?

[@super_burk]

Liking comments made by Adolf Hitler may have a negative impact on your business dudes

[@VisionMiner]

hahahahaha! He likes our product though! LOL

[@premiumoutfittersusa7238]

Is the free sample trial is over? I went to the website but I was unable to find the sample offering.

[@VisionMiner]

We have the samples on the website, but the "free" promotion has ended -- visionminer.com/sample :)

[@arrowstheorem1881]

Why does filaments stick to tape surface when its not the adhesive side in contact with the extruded filament?

[@barbatosrex8912]

Simple, because of that tape texture

[@kylehasbile]

I would like to try that adhesive too please!

[@justin4710]

Has anyone tired the nano adhesive?

[@VisionMiner]

Thousands of people -- you can check facebook groups and ask, also look at our google reviews, facebook reviews, and all the reviews on our own product page.... but hopefully someone random asks here too :) Satisfaction guaranteed, we stand by our glue and use it every single day in the shop! :)

[@colincampbell3679]

I tried Scotch Builders Blue Tape on my hot bed of the Tronxy X5SA 2020 model and I found that it hates Heat. If I do the bed heat to say 55 c that tape just un-sticks and curls up! So since even some PLA's need 55 or more sometimes. The tape just fails and soon the edges and even the middle of it bubbles up and un-sticks. I've now using the electronics heat proof gold UEETEK Tape. That was a bit hard to put down on the flexible build plate surface, But I did it slowly and got almost all the air bubble out using a sharp blade point to pick those bubbles and then flatten them with the bed scraper. The prints stick well to it and are easy to remove, Although one PLA I got is a glow in the dark version. It is very brittle and twangy and seems to be more able to curl up from the build plate at the prints edges? I may have to use some glue stick or some extra hold hair spray on there just to keep the edges held down. Or maybe do the hot bed to 55 c instead of the recommended 45 c?

[@GeorgeZaharia]

i use the yellow tape masking tape i just put it on a glass pieces from an old window and honestly after 10 prints i change it ... but even then i only swap it cause sometimes i scratch the tape cause im clumsy but if u dont scratch the tape u apply once it stays there for over 10 prints perfect 1st layer everytime. and easy to remove the print from it... it just slides off with a little pressure once its cooled down from 50C bed to like 30 or 40. on my end the tape even overlaps each sides it doesn't really matter the size difference is so small it's pointless trying to place it perfectly. 0.05 mm thickness half a 10th of a milimeter. not going to affect ur print. however i do print with a 1mm nozel so i don't really care if my pieces are a lil bit crooked at bottom.

[@davidbutcher6637]

Hi what is the big printer in the background with the vase on it ? thanks David

[@VisionMiner]

That's a CR-10s5

[@Avargatoth]

Funny enough i just started with the scotch blue tape, had a hell of a time with adhesion with just this one filament color, but i am curious about that adhesive you guys have, that looks awesome!!!

[@manonmanid1461]

Have you guys tried printing PEEK on this tape? Been trying for couple of prints which is resulting in warping...even though I have added stick glue on top of the tape. Any suggestions?

[@geoffplant6517]

Bed levelling again with this tape thickness?

[@VisionMiner]

Yeah, you'll want to adjust your z-offset based on the tape, for sure!

[@rachelhyzy3759]

I’m struggling and testing out the blue tape method now. I’d love to try a sample, please!

[@Thisguy20978]

I wanna that glue

[@nickashton8334]

So does green painters tape not work?

[@VisionMiner]

Not sure, it probably works for some materials...

[@shawnscreativemindrcdesign7682]

Im having the hardest time with bed adhesion can i get a sample of your product. i have tried all of the glue sticks and hairspray in your videos and i cant get pla to hold on any of those.

[@linuxgurugamer]

Ever hear of an Exacto knife?

[@VisionMiner]

What is this sorcery you speak of?

[@sulphur_fpv]

How well does the nano adhesive work with nylon and is it available anywhere in Australia?

[@VisionMiner]

Works amazingly well with Nylon, and we've got them over at www.3dprintergear.com.au/vision-miner-nano-polymer-adhesive-100ml for all you awesome Australians :)

[@apantrasansson]

8 minutes. To put some tape on a plate.

[@VisionMiner]

Excruciating experience, to say the least

[@williampachev4944]

Ya I use that but removing models is just a pain can anyone help?

[@hungjurysr425]

Thanks for the help. My printer worked perfectly for about 2 months, then the adhesion and calibration went to shit. At least this solves one of my problems

[@BorisSpark]

I mean my first layer ends up being 0.04mm and the adhesion is superb, mainly use it with PETG, pla and pla plus just sticks to glass bed, don't use other filaments. Printing on ender 3 pro

[@usingflea8348]

any links for the adhesive?

[@VisionMiner]

ah, got them up now! www.visionminer.com/adhesive www.visionminer.com/sample :)

[@danielx40]

Can it be white masking tape? or green?

[@VisionMiner]

Depends what it's made of, sometimes pigments mess with it, but it should be fine :)

[@Howhungry1234]

white doesnt work for me

[@techbit7607]

In my honest opinion the hairspray works the best, there is zero mess in contrast using the glue brings in alot of mess, diluting the glue stick in water does wonders as well.

[@flyback_driver]

I always felt like hairspray would cause the most ness. Uneven layering and it goes well out in a cone. I'd hate to get it in moving parts.

[@darnelhunter4105]

Can I get some of that polymer PLZ!!!

[@nolefan05]

I would like a sample as well PLEASE! I’m a NOOB btw.. Thanks! 😀

[@HypixelIsMySon]

i got the monoprice mini delta and when i use painters tape the nozzle just tears it off any suggestions?

[@HypixelIsMySon]

@@BlackBeardAP how do I do that?

[@snugglyjeff214]

Dude was shaking hard with that knife.

[@bocard80]

I would like to try a sample of that nano polymer. My prints just won't stick

[@VisionMiner]

For sure! www.visionminer.com/sample :)

[@bobbywhitney6262]

What is the BEST 3D bed for printing ABS on? Does your product Nano Polymer Adhesive works on the Creaity glass bed? Thank you in advance.

[@VisionMiner]

Our glue works great on the creality glass bed, and the best surface is something other than glass, which can break with ABS (with or without any kind of glue). Our carbon fiber plates are a great option :)

[@bobbywhitney6262]

@@VisionMinerThank you so much for the information. The Nano Polymer Adhesive works great by the way on ALL of my PLA & PETG filaments prints its just that ABS stuff because my Ender 3 V2 bed goes to 110 Celsius and I need to get a enclosure to keep the heat in when printing with ABS. I will look into your carbon fiber plates for my printer.

[@fablefoxweaver]

I'm baffled. I have an Ender-3 and I thought a glass bed would be an improvement. That looks like a lot of work for not a lot of a payoff. Don't you lose the properties of the glass this way?

[@dreamsprayanimation]

Glass is superior because of its flatness.

[@fablefoxweaver]

@@dreamsprayanimation I thought so too, but the glass bed that came with my CR-10 S4 bends as much as the bed underneath it. Currently waiting for Creality to ship me a new one. It has almost 1mm dip in the middle.

[@kingruinous81]

i would like to try adhesive

[@BitwiseMobile]

PETG and ABS usually has very good layer adhesion. I have had prints pull pieces of the glass up with them, and leaving pits in the glass plate. Does your Nano Polymer Adhesive prevent that?

[@VisionMiner]

It doesn't prevent it, with ABS -- with ABS we always recommend some sort of surface instead of glass, or a perfect z-offset -- that's really the key -- generally the shrinkage only breaks glass with ABS or PETG (or even PLA) when the first layer is smushed into the bed

[@rikksullenberger6864]

How do you get a sample?

[@DeeJoke25]

What plate did you use

[@vbelleepoque]

Thank you for the video! How can I get a sample of the nano-polymer adhesive you mentioned?

[@VisionMiner]

visionminer.com/sample :)

[@DesignzbyJJS]

Awesome thanks for this video. Was really wondering about tape as adhesive. I seem to have a tough time with having PETG sticking. It’s definitely me 😂😂 prob not the adhesive. Would definitely like to try out the Nano Adhesive. Is there a coupon we can use. Just out of curiosity

[@VisionMiner]

No coupons at the moment, but samples are available for $5, and in PETG, a single coating lasts many many prints on glass :) visionminer.com/sample

[@tacticalbacon8064]

i would like a sample of that adhesive if it really works

[@VisionMiner]

"If it really works" --- feel free to check out the hundreds of Google, Facebook, and even our website reviews... yes, it works, and it works incredibly well :) www.visionminer.com/sample for the $5 sample + shipping, if you're doing PLA/PETG a single coating lasts many many prints on glass (I've done 45+ without cleaning or re-applying, and it washes off easily with water)

[@tacticalbacon8064]

Can it be removed without the need for removal of the build plate ie. Alcohol, or a wet paper towel ex. The reason i hate glue stck is because you cant get it really clean unless you run the build plate under warm water im not spraying windex near my printer so evertime i remove it after every print to clean it i have to re level the bed I want something reliable like the glue stick but able to to be removed without needing to take the build plate off

[@cbossplayz3555]

@@tacticalbacon8064 you should be leveling every time anyways

[@killerms2221]

This stuff works very well on my glass plate with a small spritz of hair spray, prints stick every time. Real question though: can you not afford a box cutter? ;P

[@MiguelArky85]

Hi. How can I get a sample of the nano-polymer adhesive?

[@Allendz1]

Sure send me 10 bucks

[@VisionMiner]

visionminer.com/sample :)

[@amelliamendel2227]

No no no, you put the blue tape UNDER the mirror to level the bed perfectly. Nothing goes on top of the glass except 3d prints and rubbing alcohol.

[@VisionMiner]

Wait what? This is not correct. Often times when things will not stick to glass, blue tape can work great as an adhesive surface. We do not recommend blue tape under the bed unless your platform is warped, and it's a last resort -- you should be able to level the bed without such things...... not sure if you're joking or not, lol!

[@amelliamendel2227]

@@VisionMiner With correct squish on clean level glass I've never had an issue. Just tell cura to print the first layer at 50% speed and 150% line width. I have a heated need I run@63°. If prints aren't sticking something's wrong with one or more of the above variables. Most videos I've seen have the nozzle too far away from the bed.

[@VisionMiner]

@@amelliamendel2227 That works for many blends of PLA, but definitely not all filaments. Also depends on the grade of glass, or whatever build surface you're using. If you have to use blue tape under your buildplate, something else is wrong.... like a warped platform ;)

[@amelliamendel2227]

@@VisionMiner I don't disagree my platform isn't the best, and I know it's warped. It's a $240 printer with $10 of mirrored tile on top 1 of 6.

[@snugglyjeff214]

@@amelliamendel2227 you apparently never tried printing with PETG. I invite you to try your method with that material :)

[@Tombat777]

No help at all

[@sithralas2010]

let’s nonsense talk more facts please. thank you next

[@VisionMiner]

What exactly are you referring to? This is based on real world experience.... specifically, how do you think we should have done it better? Criticism without details doesn't exactly help anyone ;)

[@rubondomoralez1769]

Watched only a few of there videos and they give like 20% info < just nonsense talk to fill the air , making me regret the click.

[@vintageb3]

Two guys to stick blue tape to a sheet of glass. This is education?

[@VisionMiner]

And somehow people think it doesn't work. We get the question all the time. Now, we just tell people to buy our glue. It will go further for the money, and is better in almost every way. So, yes, while you may have been smart enough to figure it out on your own, believe me, many people are not. Education.

[@vintageb3]

@@VisionMiner That being said, you two are hardly on par with Maximos Margunios.

[@VisionMiner]

​@@vintageb3 LOL. Never claimed to be. Thanks for watching the video we made to help people out, and make people aware of our product, here on youtube, for free. If you want deep education, we do have consultation packages available for purchase :) Do you have any educational videos you've put out? Perhaps we could learn from your work. Constructive criticism is always appreciated, but quippy insults usually don't do anyone any good. Cheers!

[@vintageb3]

@@VisionMinerI agree...these silly videos are merely a vehicle to sell your wares. If you need to spend 5 minutes showing how badly to apply blue tape to glass I hardly think you have the ability to learn from me....or anyone.

[@VisionMiner]

​@@vintageb3 You might be surprised how many people had never heard of it before, just look at some of these comments where it helped them out in a pinch, without having to spend money :) Maybe you've never been on a budget and needed something like blue tape to help with bed adhesion, but we can't really explain colors to a blind person.... however, I think you've likely just been in a better position with better equipment and experience, so you didn't need such a method... or did it help you too? Perhaps you were hoping for some magical extras? Sorry to disappoint :) Clearly you already understand the method and didn't have to spend the time watching an 8 minute video about such a basic method.... oh wait, maybe you're just complaining.... yeah, that still doesn't help anyone lol. Oh, and yes, these videos are absolutely a way to help sell our product, since it truly does work amazingly well, and it's better to give two methods, than simply make more commercials peddling our wares :) how else do you expect us to reach people and help them? You gotta give us some credit for that :) we're just people too, after all, making videos we wished we had when we started :) Have a great rest of your weekend ;) (frankly I'm surprised a free video designed to help people gets this kind of response from anyone, lol -- oh wait, it's the internet, we must be doing something right!)

[@stopbegging4likes]

This shit dont stick well in my printer