Visions of the Future | Dr. Jordan Peterson EP 13

This episode was recorded on July 19th, 2022
In this episode, Tammy Peterson invites her husband, Jordan Peterson, for a discussion around the Self Authoring Program that he helped to establish. They mainly touch on the origins of the program through Jordan’s research and business endeavors, and the psychological and history oriented aspects of self authoring-while outlining the physiological benefits that come with orderly encounters with your past, present and future.
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- Chapters -
[00:21] - The Origins of the Self Authoring Program
[06:34] - Jordan's Discovery as a Salesman
[13:16] - How to Increase Health and Lifespan
[20:31] - Catharsis vs. Cognitive Framing
[33:33] - The Future Authoring Program
[41:09] - The Domains of Meaning
[44:45] - The Value of Outlining Your Virtues and Faults

[@AFringedGentian]

It fills my heart to overflowing with joy and thankfulness to see Dr. Peterson and Tammy so well and so healthy. You are both so dearly loved and cherished. You are doing God’s work in this world.

[@CK-dp6je]

YESSS!

[@TammyPetersonPodcast]

Thank you for your prayers

[@laurahano2587]

[@kantraxoikol6914]

keep santa and the tooth fairy out of it, and he's certainly trying to show even fanatic sheeple who SHOULD get credit , not your god..the bible isn't "god" written it's man made. its so obvious it glares at you at every single prejudice it spouts

[@osarueseosato1144]

You have no idea

[@brookemoore8369]

Dr. Peterson helped me understand and move past my resentment and Tammy helped me to discover where to find God. Thank you both for your contributions to my self transformation. I will be forever thankful.

[@TammyPetersonPodcast]

Thank you for your prayers

[@hoanganh9653]

The Peterson family taking over KZbin and I’m all for it

[@betterdaysahead3746]

Thank you for demonstrating love and respect in marriage. I grew up in a dysfunctional family so all I knew as a child was fear and resentment both watching and feeling, your example and what you share is valuable to me. God bless you both. Much love.

[@TammyPetersonPodcast]

Thanks for your prayers

[@TammyPetersonPodcast]

Fear and resentment block us from play. Pursue the impulse to play. Where there is play, there is trust

[@betterdaysahead3746]

@@TammyPetersonPodcast that makes a lot of sense. Thank you.

[@amywetmore9647]

So true, in my 20s and 30s I lost all playfulness 100%. When I finally started appreciating play in my 40s life became soooo much better.

[@alfredmicallef]

​@@amywetmore9647🎉🎉?❤?😂😂 😊😅😅😮

[@dr.jenniferma3914]

Tammy, you're such a beautiful, calming presence. You guide Jordan in his thoughts and weave them together as only a person who spent years loving and listening could.

[@charlescoult]

I love how patient Tammy is with Jordan 😆 She's very good at taming the lion. Every man needs a woman like that. Sometimes Jordan can get a little too passionate about what he's talking about.

[@tysondolan1533]

30 seconds in and I already adore the love, respect and warmth between Jordan and "Tam". It shouldn't be shocking or novel, but it's rare to see these days ... I will resume the podcast after I dry my eyes.

[@michaelwelsh798]

Tammy. This is the best interview of Jordan I have seen. You have a very light touch, but you bring out the best. Masterful.

[@TammyPetersonPodcast]

Thank you for the encouraging words

[@skybluegarza2353]

My husband and I traveled to Los Angeles to attend JP conference last week, I was so happy to see Dr. Peterson, his daughter and Tammy, they are a lovely family. The conference was awesome, he is one of the best thinkers of this time and I cannot wait to see him again next year in his 2025 tour.

[@alejandrinahs]

My question is for Mikhaila: Is it just me, or does the world need more Tammy and Jordan windowsill chats? What a lovely dynamic to witness.

[@NdxtremePro]

Mikhaila may be the one person that doesn't think that, considering she would have grown up with them, and thus be used to them.

[@TammyPetersonPodcast]

Thank you for your encouragement. I loved sitting with Dr P and talking through the self authoring. I think this program is remarkable. I didn’t have detailed guidance from my family or schooling but this was guidance from the best of what is within me. I sit with him on stage now and ask questions from the audience. I love to sit with him. He encouraged me to ask him questions. I am practicing and will continue to do so

[@ontopiniowa1]

Loved watching Mr & and Mrs Peterson (wife and husband) interacting together. I see why Jordan was attracted to Tammy.... highly intelligent. What a joy this is.

[@tracyrichardson2074]

Tammy a very good interview because you asked questions that many people would ask if they could while listening to Jordan speak. Excellent. Jordan and Tammy.. the world is a better place with you both in it. Thank you.

[@cyndishannonhouse3318]

let her speak!!!!

[@TammyPetersonPodcast]

Thanks for the encouragement

[@jimmock1155]

@@cyndishannonhouse3318 …I thought it was an interview so as to hear the one being interviewed. You apparently think it’s a discussion. I’m not sure how Tammy views it but it’s her show…and she’s a big-girl. 😊

[@MariaAntoniettaPerna]

@@cyndishannonhouse3318 It seems to me Tammy is being the perfect host/interviewer: she actively listens and (consequently) asks excellent questions in a non invasive, although probing, manner. Totally enjoy her style.

[@melissat9120]

​@@MariaAntoniettaPernaI completely agree! It's so frustrating to listen to interviews where the interviewer just wants to hear themselves talk, thinking abput what THEY want to say. I love that Tammy listens so openly and calmly. ❤

[@alesalter7653]

I absolutely love all of your podcasts. Your entire family is a blessing to the world.

[@TammyPetersonPodcast]

Thank you for the encouragement. Much appreciated

[@laurahano2587]

Their impact has been incredible and like a light in the darkness for me. I am one less suffering person in the world and instead now one more person making the world better in the ways that I can.

[@TammyPetersonPodcast]

@@laurahano2587 thanks for your comment

[@meaganmoffitt884]

I enjoy listening to Tammy Peterson, she has a lovely speaking voice

[@WhiteStoneName]

26:35 memory. Absolutely. “Memory is the purveyor of reason.” It’s an ongoing interpretative act.

[@cdex00]

Tammy knows how to properly interrupt Dr. Peterson to direct the conversation. His demeanor says all about how much he cares for her. In this world, there aren't many good examples of healthy loving partnerships within a marriage.

[@TammyPetersonPodcast]

Thanks for your comment

[@rrk426]

I'm a 23 yr old woman and I've really been struggling lately. This made me cry & has helped open my mind a lot. Its helped realign me towards the importance of my wishes for myself & for my life, and a reminder to plan, and at the end gave me some perspective on the realities of life & God. Thank you Mr. & Mrs. Peterson.

[@patrickerwin7386]

I got to meet Tammy during JPs tour. It was a pleasure and honor. I am still grateful she shares her husband with us!

[@jame2182]

Her last words healed my heart. "Thank you, Jordan" PROFOUND WISDOM

[@nazishahmad77]

Dear Tammy, it is a true pleasure to witness the stillness within you. Your gentle wisdom is very much appreciated. Can you please remind Dr. Peterson that incredibly powerful intellectuals, who revolutionize the world, face a lot of resistance and adversity, when they begin sharing their ideas with the world. I hope Dr. Peterson does not take any of the malicious criticism directed towards him to heart. History has shown us that great minds have not always been valued properly during their time. And the criticizers are often louder than those who understand and appreciate. We need intellectuals such as Dr. Peterson to help change the world for the better. Please take nothing personally, or to heart, except the love and gratitude expressed to you. Stay strong. Thank you for all that you do.

[@lameeeeeeename5044]

This is one of the sweetest comments I've come across today on this thread. Oozing with love.

[@vivienneoke]

Jordon is a gift! Respect for this family, Great to see Tammy. A lovely interview..

[@dpowers9242]

I have watched assumable 1000 plus hours of Jordan Peterson, this is the first time he has look unburdened while he speaks. I usually notice the weight of what he is working towards in his expressions. It is wonderful to see that his wife is a place where he looks rooted. Tammy Peterson must be one heck of a lady.

[@TammyPetersonPodcast]

Thank you for the encouragement

[@dpowers9242]

@@TammyPetersonPodcast Thank you for the insight. =)

[@cvbabc]

I'm an agnostic, cynical, skeptic but when this man cries, I cry, he CARES. Thank you Tammy and thank you Dr. Peterson. Never forget all the people you've helped and are helping. Thank you sir.

[@AFringedGentian]

57:57: “The condition of complete simplicity costing not less than everything.” T. S. Eliot, “Little Gidding”

[@carolinekerr9950]

I dreamt about you Tammy and Jordan last night. I got up at 5 am and searched the internet and chose this interview to watch. I have both the Self authoring suite and understanding yourself but have not worked right through them. Now my dreams are prompting me to get moving to action! Thank you both for your service.❤

[@julieredmond5192]

This was so good. Jordan talks so easily with Tammy. She brings out the best in him. And his listening skills with her are fine tuned. There is a good balance of give and take. Tammy asks really good questions. Very helpful interview. Thank you, Tammy.

[@robertputt7794]

Praying for Y'all... Can't wait to see what God does! 🙏❤❤❤

[@amigdala_cr]

57:38 the moment you know you are speaking THE Truth

[@lucianobonanno680]

Hello Mr and Mrs Peterson!

[@socraticdialogue29.]

Nice to see you so healthy Tammy. God bless you. Your recovery is a miracle from God.

[@abigailindigo3208]

Thank you. As a survivor of much violence and tragedy trauma, you both help me in ways you will absolutely never know. You might be aware of your positive impact on lives, but truly, you can not truly know how deep that can be.

[@AndrewMontpetit]

I just bought the Self-Authoring suite because of this video. My wife and I also bought the "Understanding Yourself" suite because of the couple interview you did on Mikhaila's channel (which turned out to be exceptionally insightful and helpful for our marriage). Something about going through the entire explanation mixed with your very real and personal stories inspires a lot of hope and attraction to these tools. Really enjoying your channel, btw. God bless you and your whole family for all the good work you are all doing :)

[@TammyPetersonPodcast]

Thanks for the prayers. Thank you for the encouragement. Remember to do a reasonable job of completing the program. Do it over a few days as sleep will deepen the experience. When I first wrote the future authoring answers, I didn’t revisit it or edit anything and it was very helpful to me over the years

[@nathanwagner762]

This has honestly been so extraordinarily helpful. Thank you Mr. and Mrs. Peterson

[@TammyPetersonPodcast]

Thank you for the encouraging words

[@blackwatch16]

This is vintage Jordan Peterson! Grounded in his expertise - encouraging others to aim up and providing practical ways to do it. It’s clear from this conversation that Tammy brings out the best in him.

[@TammyPetersonPodcast]

Thank you for the encouragement

[@alexdiazmora]

Hello Mrs. Peterson, I am very happy to see you and Dr. Peterson so well and so happy here. I am writing this half assuming that you read your KZbin comments, and half because I need to put it out in the world. On March of this year I attended a lecture by Dr. Peterson. on Atlanta and I had very high expectations on the lecture. Because of you it delivered before it even started and I want to tell you why. On 2018 I almost died beacuse of chemotherapy, key point beeing almost. The experience radically changed me for the better, however I started to have severe panic issues about 3 years after it all worked out, and I was healthy. I had problems with anxiety for about 6 months before going to the lecture by Dr. Peterson on Atlanta, and I was kind of expecting magic to help me out with my anxiety issues. Then on that Tuesday night, you came out to present Dr Peterson, and gave a very short but powerful story about your life, for the the lecture that we were going to hear. The topic of the night was Rule #9 "if old memories still upset you write them down carefully and completely" and for me everything I needed to do to get better clicked in placed even before Dr. Peterson came out to talk. I am now significantly better, and I'm sure that night is a big part of the reason why. For this I will be forever thankful to you and your husband. Thank you for living and for sharing a little part of your life with us. Sorry if there are any mistakes, english is not my first language.

[@ericmwai1149]

Thank you for sharing

[@elizabethwilk9615]

Thank you for sharing. I have anxiety at times that can turn into panic so this is inspiring. I never had it until my son had many issues so I understand that stress plays a huge role.

[@CMoore8539]

Thank you so much for starting a channel!❤ First I found your husband’s podcast, then your daughter’s and I finally found yours! I’m so happy that you are speaking out too. I believe I will learn the most from you!❤

[@Mariel184]

The content of this video is pure gold

[@_kmCarter]

I have done the self-authoring program twice, and it has helped me a great deal to understand my past and make peace with it. It’s an excellent program, and I highly recommend it.

[@TammyPetersonPodcast]

Thank you for your encouragement. It was an incredible exercise to write the future authoring program years ago. I thought this would be his most important work. I have seen the results from writing the 15 minute dream and the goals for years

[@allyourbase888]

Holy Smokes that was intense! Thank you both 🙏🏽❤️🇺🇸

[@jefaspirit]

I pray that we all realign with God’s Will for our lives. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and insights with us, Tammy and Dr. Peterson.

[@slowbrodragon6951]

Now only waiting for Julian to start a podcast, then the whole family has podcasts!

[@proudatheist2042]

I think his sister, father, and mother have enough material out there for countless people to learn from. He is allowed to live a normal life out of the public eye so he can focus on being a father to an infant and a husband. Not everyone has the exact same interests and plans as their other family members. Having a podcast and a being the son of a prolific person has its downsides.

[@AnaBrigidaGomez]

I bought the program months ago but I haven't started it yet. Thank you for reminding me WHY I got it on the first place. Going to start working on it now!

[@JordanBPeterson]

Do it badly. But do it.

[@AnaBrigidaGomez]

@@JordanBPeterson Yes, Sir

[@TammyPetersonPodcast]

Thank you for the inspiring words. I didn’t receive much guidance from my family. This program gave me guidance from my Heavenly Father and I saw the results of my writing in my daily life very quickly and for years. Make sure that you don’t edit and rework it. Sleep before you finish it - all the best

[@AnaBrigidaGomez]

@@TammyPetersonPodcast Likewise I'm trying to develop skills no one taught me. Thank you for making this video to get me back on track. Keep the good work! Many blessings for you and your loved ones. ❤

[@joakim8910]

It's refreshing to hear Jordan talk about this topic again. Self development. And not getting off track about Woke, SJW's.

[@palmtree9815]

Two of the best!!! I signed up my boys and a cousin with the self authoring program-I think I will buy it for my nephews too. This was such a helpful episode with concrete homework to improve. Thank you both so much 👏❤️

[@elektrotehnik94]

The best explanation on why this program is worth it & this video makes it easy to share the gust of it with those I love ❤️ Gonna recommend it to my sister 👍

[@TammyPetersonPodcast]

Thanks for your encouragement. As long as your boys are older than 17, it will be a helpful exercise. Remind them to do a bad job and not try to perfect the writing and goals. It’s better to write it over a couple days. Sleep will help to deepen the understanding.

[@palmtree9815]

@@TammyPetersonPodcast thank you! Good tips -I will pass this along to them! We watch your family’s KZbin videos & have benefited very much ❤️

[@jennymcgowin9140]

That was an extraordinarily interesting discussion! Please do more of these types of conversations between you and Jordan! I love both of you so much! Thank you!

[@TammyPetersonPodcast]

Thanks for the prayers. Thank you for the encouragement. If you decide to do it, do a reasonable job of completing the program. Do it over a few days as sleep will deepen the experience. When I first wrote the future authoring answers, I didn't revisit it or edit anything and it was very helpful to me over the years

[@UteHeggenTranswidowHeals]

This is great! The exercise piece (at about 13 minutes) makes so much sense. The benefits of writing about past traumas in the long term make so much sense.

[@dr.jenniferma3914]

We're all out here rooting for you guys. Love to you both!

[@nancyc9169]

This is the best conversation that you both have done. More please

[@Zeke0123]

Thanks too you both…the looking back and solving old recurring memories has helped me in ways I cannot describe..thanks for being my therapist by proxy Dr. Petersen and thank you for helping your husband (and me) by helping him elaborate even MORE clearly…amazing.

[@TammyPetersonPodcast]

Thank you for the encouragement

[@ladyfaye8248]

It occurs that this is a wonderful way to get to really know one's spouse, and to become closer as a result. A kind of role play, it seems. I imagine doing such an exercise would both be helpful and very enjoyable were I to have a husband. It is, furthermore, extraordinarily generous of the Tammy and Jordon to share this with us all. I am finding fascination as well as education here. And joy. Very interesting to hear Jordon's history regarding his work.

[@TammyPetersonPodcast]

Thank you for your comment. It was a good exercise. I completed the future authoring years ago. It was remarkable how quickly my future plans appeared in my daily life. I didn’t have detailed guidance from family or school. This program was guidance for me from the wisdom of my Father, that was artfully coaxed from within

[@beatakropiwnicka4330]

Wonderful interview. Only one comment Tammy is such a deep person and if she can have more opportunity to speak during the interview. Big THANK YOU Dr Peterson to you and your lovely wife

[@TammyPetersonPodcast]

Thank you for the encouragement. I sit with Dr P on stage now during his tour and ask him questions from the audience. He asks me to ask him follow up questions and I am willing but his answers are often complete as is

[@vivienneoke]

My understanding is that Tammy is interviewing her husband. IT WORKS that way, The world needs his mindset..

[@IndoctReeducate]

Tammy that was awesome , you knew exactly where to slow Dr. Peterson so he could speak clearly to the masses. Thank you

[@cvbabc]

I truly pity the people who hate this man. They're so lost. Yeah, I get angry when I read about it, but the more I ponder it I realize how lost they are, how unredeeming their lives must be. Cults of personality are dangerous, he isn't perfect. He doesn't know everything, but on balance his life has been one of service.

[@estellesstories7467]

Tammy is such a clear headed anchor for Jordan. He would do well to pause and not talk over her. He under estimates her, to his detriment.

[@davidlakhter]

great conversation!!

[@JennS904]

Awesome! Happy to discover you have a podcast.

[@dhruvkumarpandey6785]

Loved this interview ❤️

[@adamjankowski5755]

Thank you for this ❤

[@smurfe2126]

The power to love is the antidote to suffering.

[@delladonnelly7871]

Thank you very much I've just moved to my own house, I'm 67 years of age, after years of a very unhappy marriage. My lovely neighbour introduced me to Jordan and your beautiful God filled Life. Because of you and your wonderful husband. My life is much brighter . God bless and protect you and your family now and always.. ❤❤❤🙏🙏🙏

[@DefneDance]

Loved this. Thank you ❤️

[@gabrielabsouza4497]

Amazing. Love you guys.

[@tonybinder9392]

This was beautiful!

[@artemiomusica5465]

The best psychologist. I study psychological at my first year. I am in my bachelor degree. You inspire me a lot and ive learned a lot from you Doctor Peterson.

[@aleksandralazovic-lnningen9806]

There is no coincidences. I am at the moment in the spot in life where I question literally and absolutely mine I AM… profound, painful, scary and exciting experience. It is beyond everything I have ever experienced. I asked and I got it :) Beautiful energy and so emotional at the end. First I thought it is only me… Thank you Mr. and Mrs. Peterson 🌸

[@mvlandis6456]

Absolutely wonderful!

[@finegentleman7820]

Need to watch

[@dianeandersen1926]

Love you guys so much!

[@smolpeepz1460]

I need part 2 of this! The journey from academic to industry is fascinating to me, as well as his stories as a clinician.

[@TammyPetersonPodcast]

Thank you for your encouragement. If you do the writing, allow the thoughts to come up and write them down without second guessing. Sleep before you finish to deepen the experience

[@TammyPetersonPodcast]

There is a little part 2 for you

[@Crafty.Veteran.Survival]

Can't wait to listen to this later. Been following your husband for years now (huge fan, I actually met him earlier this year in Grand Rapids, MI). Thankful for you both, God bless ❤️

[@TammyPetersonPodcast]

I’m excited for you. This program was life changing for me. I didn’t receive detailed guidance from my family or schooling. This is a meditation on guidance from our historical fathers. Let the words come and don’t second guess it. I experienced results in my daily life soon after I finished writing it over a few days, with sleeps that deepened the experience

[@proudatheist2042]

​@@TammyPetersonPodcast historical fathers?

[@TammyPetersonPodcast]

@@proudatheist2042 I mean the future authoring program encourages us to dream of an adventure of a lifetime. Adventure is taught to us from childhood, by our fathers.

[@Nah_Bohdi]

Finally, got the big man in the hot seat.

[@vvcc1450]

Thank you.

[@mimimercy4866]

Today I was just listening to mainstream radio while driving to work and some journalist compared Jordan to Andrew Tat whatever his name is, and I have to say I fellt offenden on behalf of Jordan. I think this is one of the most brilliant minds I have ever listened to and love listening to his poadcasts. I have never meet him in Person and hoep I can attend one of his tours in Europe. Thank you Jordan for what you do for all those who are willing to just listen and analyze...

[@ricardoardiano1550]

This is just the best. The first 10 seconds. The respect and just pure truth that emanates from this is lovely to watch.

[@TammyPetersonPodcast]

Thank you so much. If you decide to write the responses to this program, I can say that when I wrote the future authoring answers many years ago, first I enjoyed writing it, taking the time to let a dream manifest for myself, unedited. Second, I saw results from my writing in my daily life very soon afterward and for years

[@vivienneoke]

The Peterson's family are a special they honestly have respect for each other! Dad, Mum, Daughter and Son.

[@laurenloertscher1319]

This was awesome from the get go. Thanks for sharing 👍

[@lizbec1085]

This was so helpful. Grateful for the Peterson family!

[@cathyward4113]

Thank you both , enjoyed listening to this, .

[@headintheclouds948]

A great discussion. Thank you

[@User-un7so]

Thank you guys, I really needed this.

[@ekeasonye7189]

I'm seriously jealous of you guys and love you to bits.... Well-done for a being a light bearer of our age

[@aboubakarmoussa5728]

THE BEST ON MY LIST. JUST A LOT TO PONDER UPON. THANKS.

[@elizabethwilk9615]

So blessed that we get to hear both of you

[@TS-bg7cn]

Enlightening video.

[@sgngoasheng]

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson is a generous man, sent by God Himself. I am such a fan of the Petersons I had to follow Tammy's calming voice as well! Thanks to the Petersons, I now stumble upon these nuggets on my journey to Self-actualization. This kind of gift to mankind is good for my mental, physical and spiritual health.

[@emiliek4002]

Thank you Tammy for such a great interview 🙏

[@MrAmitArun]

This is one adorable couple 👌🏻

[@chuglyc]

That was an AWEsome conversation. Thank you

[@Sheahova]

This video made me soo happy

[@frietzenkenter]

Thank you, Mrs. Peterson, for this insightful and interesting interview. Looking forward to watching your conversation with Jonathan Pageau on suffering.

[@TammyPetersonPodcast]

Thank you for the encouragement. It means a great deal to me. Jonathan Pageau is so deeply fun to speak with. I will launch a short interview with Matthieu Pageau soon too. His knowledge is something else indeed

[@jbrows3730]

I’m honoured to be here in this time💯♥️🤙

[@joblower4444]

Nice work.. the conversation before this must have been magic Well done t and j

[@joolsmartin1996]

outstanding ! thank you both.

[@OscarLimaMike]

Fighting for my country, my culture, and my children. I love your family, all of you are exceptional people. God bless you both.

[@bellaluna423]

Tammy, this a beautiful space!

[@MartaReprezas]

Tammy huge respect for you. Keep going!

[@KevinOroszSpeaks]

Yes! Mrs. Peterson ☝️🔥♥️

[@lynxonwatch]

The density of the content is amazing, as is the intensity of those two seekers of what is possible in your life. Very inspiring and at the same time calming. Thank you for providing this to the world.

[@metalted6128]

What fantastic information, and so true!!! To companies. Thank you for your work!

[@imagenarchitecture9821]

Oh! this is pure gold...thank you!

[@74777984]

I thoroughly enjoyed that. Thank you Mrs Peterson