Visiting the most CONTROVERSIAL Football Club (Wrexham AFC)

[@JimTheis32]

What Rob and Ryan have done for Wrexham, all within the rules, is exactly what fans of every team in every sport dream their owners or chairmen would do. Fair play to them! And beyond that, they’ve helped bring global attention to the lower leagues. I’ve even met Notts County and Stockport fans in the U.S. who only started following the EFL in the last two years! Subscribed, Quality video!

[@AVFCVlogger]

Thank you mate! Feel free to share

[@huwdavies561]

We have had 2 near disastrous owners in 2004 and 2011. Then fans ran the club and passed it to Rob and Ryan. They are the only owners ever to give support to the club that has made a proper impact in 160 years. Their support has been matched by fans investment by filling up the stadium every game since the pandemic. With crowds of at least approximately 9 thousand for the last four years and now nearly 13 thousand

[@marcus7840]

I thought that is what new owners are supposed to do. Is to make your club great and win matches. And move up. Plus Ryan and Rob have done nothing but a great job for the club and the town.

[@tomed09]

Who was botherd when we almost went out of existence? Nobody! It's now pure jealousy. Ps..Your mums brilliant😄

[@aarchiewaldron]

How dare a professional football club spend money to win games??!!!

[@LiamRobertsWxm]

the hatred is just pure jealousy

[@AVFCVlogger]

Potentially

[@LiamRobertsWxm]

@@AVFCVloggergood vlog tho mate, hope you enjoyed the visit

[@salopfantelevision3193]

Both Shrewsbury and Chester hated you lot way before any jealousy. We hate you even more now. 🤣 Tr la la

[@aaronspruance]

​@@LiamRobertsWxmUp the Storming Town! 🇦🇷🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🇺🇸

[@Wrexforce]

liamroberts what a fnin legend ❤

[@jpmdavies2125]

As a Wrexham supporter for over 45yrs I couldn't give a monkey #### if money gets us to where we want to be !

[@AVFCVlogger]

Exactly

[@bvyup2112]

At least it isn't Saudi blood oil money (well maybe if you go far enough back but not from Ryan and Rob themselves)

[@patrickmarshall15]

Nice VLOG and honest as well. Thanks for doing this, it's football after all. From a Wrexham fan - up the Villa !!!

[@sueimp9551]

Great vlog. I don't have an issue with Wrexham, my first visit and thought we were worth a point or three but couldn't find the net. Don't know why they get so much hate as I met some lovely Wrexham fans and it was a welcoming atmosphere at the ground. Every team would take what they have if it was offered to them. Nice for a neutral view at a match and loved you got Lewis Montsma in the crowd, who doesn't love a player in with the fans, shows what an inclusive club we are.

[@FastHatTrick]

English football is religion. The "faithful" believe that if you want it bad enough, and believe hard enough.. that divine intervention and the universe finally rewarding suffering will somehow provide a football club a championship. It is all very catholic in its foundation... one must suffer to be rewarded. Well, the truth is, money wins championships, good decision making wins trophies. And 2 Americans coming in and demonstrating this while removing the curtain between OZ and the world is just too much for some people to handle. They ARE honoring the town of Wrexham and are improving the lives of those living there by increasing local revenue AND giving them something to cheer for on a Saturday. Its Capitalism that wins championships, not the amount of kit you own or the amount you scream in the stands and passion you have for your club. That means absolutely NOTHING in the Win and Loss column. The only thing controversial is that English football fans took this long to wake up to reality. Sorry if they didn't pick your club to buy. Go start another fight in the town down the street with another clubs fans if you need to feel like the value of your life depends on your clubs performance, beat another human to show them they are less than you because who they chose to support if that is what it takes to make your life feel worth while. Wrexham won the lottery, and they are moving past all of that thanks to two Americans. Until English football puts Salary CAP rules in place, it will always be this way.

[@welshknight1456]

Wrexham fans always fill their away end ticket allocation, sometimes over 2,000 so they put money into the other clubs as well.

[@WillSudworth]

Wrexham fan here: great video. Fair explanation of both sides of debate. Nice interviews. Glad your mum likes the documentary and wanted to meet Wayne. He’s as lovely in real life.

[@AVFCVlogger]

Thanks mate

[@MartinTreadgold]

Not controversial at all. The whole game is about money, no one batters an eye over a premier league team having saudi oil money.. why would it be any different in the lower leagues, the amount of money Ryan Reynolds has brought to the club is a raindrop in an ocean of football money. What rob and ryan do bring to the table is marketing and business management experience in a positive way. rather than just throw money at a club, they making the club sustainable for the future

[@carlaarden5891]

If you think Wrexham are controversial then Birmingham city & Aston Villa are also controversial with their owners and money spending? I believe Wrexham owners have put together a great business model which generates its own money, you should be applauding any team which can only bring positivity.

[@archie2694]

Bald Bloke with the glasses proper Wrexham supporter bet he gets all the birds UTW

[@TIWNA851]

Hang on, loads of us speak Welsh 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@AVFCVlogger]

Fair play

[@chriswright6335]

So no apology for just spouting lies​@@AVFCVlogger

[@timphillips9954]

@@chriswright6335 Spot on Chris. It was a pathetic comment.

[@huwdavies561]

@@TIWNA851 Ie rwy'n siarad Cymraeg I ddechrau.

[@gothiclight8048]

Commitment from Mum to drive all the way to Wrexham and back!

[@BjrnOttoVasbottenbjovas]

That is an awesome bonding experience, made me happy. Nice video!

[@Lupin788]

Bit of a clickbait headline. EFL clubs spending money is hardly controversial.

[@ikamoro]

He wrote "(Wrexham fc)" in the title. You knew exactly what you were going to watch before you clicked on it, so it can't be clickbait.

[@davoshea3883]

Wrexham are awesome and the banter we have is also awesome , if we had the money I'm sure we would do the same a zero pound spending team as you said ,I'm a stockport fan and wish them all the best , we have goe toe to toe for quite a few years , I wish them all the best ,I would be happy staying up this year as we don't have the cash to bounce up again , playoffs money and go again next year , all the best Wrexham ...

[@GarethJOwen1]

So a couple of actors as owners are more CONTROVERSIAL than oligarchs and human rights abusers? Grow up little boy.

[@brianeleighton]

He said he had no problems with us. However you have to admit that we get a fair amount of hate from supporters of other clubs in the EFL. They absolutely call us "Hollywood FC" and say that we have bought our way up the leagues.

[@EmmaRoberts79]

Great video, I have been watching Wrexham for 33 years now and since the takeover it has been an absolutely ride, the players all say it’s the best place to be within the team and we have a winning mentality, loved the video, my son is called Kai too and he was in the stand with the singing and he’s been going since he was 3 and now 18, definitely a family club ❤

[@AVFCVlogger]

Love that

[@robdavies6860]

Controversial??? To any true EFL fan THE controversial club is MK Franchise Dons . Being a Wrexhamfc fan of over 50 years and talking with fans of many other clubs , being honest most thinking fans everywhere just wish Rob and Ryan took over their club . They really wish us we on our journey. By the way it’s Wrexham AFC not AFC Wrexham. And if you reckon we’d spent 500k in the first year of the takeover and Stockport spent £zero then I’d want to check your Stockport facts. They had a couple of years to build before we did. Best of luck with your KZbin of course it’s great we’re getting attention- but nowhere near controversial compared to Franchise

[@robdavies6860]

Oh and also‘nobody speaks Welsh’ I politely suggest you do more research. At least two songs included Cymraeg and there is significant Cymraeg around. Suggest you discuss this with TomiCaws on Men in blazers. Some of us remember playing Villa in Div 3 in the early 70s I think both games were away wins. Keep on vlogging

[@thewhitedoncheadle8345]

name a club that wouldnt want this

[@robhooson3359]

saved our own club from extinction with our own money. numerous dodgy owners absolutely running us into the ground. Now we get investment, after being a fan owned club we're hated. people just want clubs to rot and have no chances of growth. its just pure jealousy

[@s1mpson44]

There is no comparison between Wrexham & ones you listed such as Salford, Red Bull or MK Dons. They were either handed a football league place, created from nothing with little or no history or have no fans. Wrexham are one of the oldest football clubs in the world, always been well supported & languished for 15 years in non league before earning the right to regain their football league place, 99% of rival fans criticising would jump at the chance to have owners like Wrexham have, it really is just bitterness or jealousy.

[@johnconnah9048]

Fair assessment of the game with nice short comments rather than running commentary with the video footage. Could easily have been a draw but then we have been able to get those vital goals for a few seasons.

[@AVFCVlogger]

Thanks mate

[@markballard9942]

I'm a Wrexham fan in Chicago in the United States. Also, a new subscriber to your channel

[@iluvgsds]

Stockport spent nothing? Stockport County owner Mark Stott has cleared the £7.7 million debt the club owed him that was used to invest in the then National League side following his takeover in January 2020. Apparently Wrexham owe Rob and Ryan £9 million. Why are Wrexham controversial then?

[@AVFCVlogger]

I meant in that season

[@sirpeekalot4098]

7.7 Million are you on the sauce

[@iluvgsds]

@@sirpeekalot4098 ??? What if you could search the information on some sort of internet?

[@robbieevans6536]

Love this take on the game....New subscriber now.

[@johnpinfold4413]

You can't blame the greed and obscene money which permeates football on Wrexham!

[@neilmcse]

I enjoyed your views as a "neutral" observer. As someone who watches EFL because of Ted Lasso and Welcome to Wrexham (Canadian), this was fun to see a balanced view. Thanks!

[@paulcosgrove4219]

Tell your Mom that a guy on the west coast of Canada 🇨🇦 thinks she is Class⛄️🏝️🔥

[@PhogofWar]

If someone came in and spent millions into their club, nobody would complain.

[@welshknight1456]

Some facts for you, Wrexham AFC are the 3rd oldest club in the world, playing in the oldest International stadium still in use.

[@nicholasjones7312]

Contraversial because we’ve got owners who have invested in the club? Nobody thinks that Birmingham City are controversial, yet they spent much much more in this league.

[@AndersJensenTH]

Best intro ever! 🤩 UTV

[@AVFCVlogger]

UTV

[@meganjones9746]

Money helps but may not guarantee the expected success, ask Salford MKD Oldham Fleetwood etc

[@toxicbeestystudio5376]

Great video. I just realised you were right next to me. I was the girl with the cp company hoodie on

[@AVFCVlogger]

Fair enough 😂

[@gothiclight8048]

Another great neutral vlog!

[@AVFCVlogger]

🤝🤝

[@philsmith3188]

The fact we (Wycombe) are above them in the league having spent peanuts in comparison makes it even sweeter Great video too btw 👏

[@denisecharles6992]

We were asset stripped, so we needed investment, the club had struggled for years following Hamilton. Rob and Ryan can only spend within the rules, look at Birmingham 20 million, yet, we are buying the league!! It’s great to see our ongoing support and also our international fans

[@AVFCVlogger]

Any Wrexham and Lincoln fans feel free to share around and subscribe! Let me know what you think of the vlog and of Wrexham! 👇

[@nicholasjones7312]

D’wi’n byw yn Wrecsam, ond d’wi,n gallu siarad cymraeg🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@paulsmith7051]

Couple of the usual inaccuracies within the first 30 seconds, no need to watch any further then. They took control in Feb 2021 and we were debt free and in a play off position. It's a constant kick in the teeth to the fans that kept the club going, that people who know jack shit about the club nor really care about it either, spout such bollox. We gave up part of our lives to keep the club alive and then have to watch various over egged versions of how we were dead and buried... No denying we are now in a much better place, but some respect and accuracies is the least the long time fans deserve.

[@brianeleighton]

Wrong. It has been openly discussed that when Rob and Ryan entered negotiations to buy the club was during the Covid lockdowns. Remember the season that was canceled and we were saved from relegation by points per game? They then paid £2 million for the takeover. In their first half season of control was when we barely missed the playoffs under Dean Keates. That summer they hired Phil Parkinson and brought in Paul Mullin.

[@paulsmith7051]

​@@brianeleightonI was on the trust board at the time and was involved in the takeover. They took full control in the Feb, it's you that's wrong. The trust even had to sign to agree to take on any increase in wages if the takeover didn't complete, as it was agreed they could recruit in the Jan window. In the event though as a player left right at the end of the transfer window, the monthly wage bill went up by a minute amount £170 or so...

[@paulsmith7051]

@@brianeleighton A timeline of Wrexham's Hollywood takeover Early 2020: Wrexham director Spencer Harris is approached by an intermediary about a potential change in ownership of the club. Summer 2020: Harris and his fellow directors agree to sign a non-disclosure agreement with the interested parties, not realising the need for secrecy was due to the prospective investors being Hollywood stars. 23 September 2020: Members of the Wrexham Supporters Trust (WST) vote overwhelmingly to allow talks that could lead to an entire takeover of the club to go ahead at a special general meeting. 24 September 2020: Reynolds and McElhenney are announced by Wrexham as the potential investors. 8 November 2020: Reynolds and McElhenney present their vision for the club to the Wrexham Supporters Trust over Zoom, saying they want to turn the club into "a global force". 16 November 2020: Over 98% of supporters vote in favour of the takeover. 18 November 2020: Wrexham's soon-to-be owners Reynolds and McElhenney donate £6,000 to adapt Wrexham fan Aiden Stott's home. 22 November 2020: Wrexham boss Dean Keates reveals he has spoken to Reynolds and McElhenney and predicts they will "take the club to the next level". 30 November 2020: Former Liverpool chief executive Peter Moore says he is to work as an adviser at Wrexham. 15 December 2020: Moore tells BBC Sport Wales that Reynolds and McElhenney are "in it for the long haul". 19 January 2021: Wrexham announce that the board have concluded negotiation of the Share Purchase Agreement and have exchanged contracts. 27 January 2021: Reynolds and McElhenney donate money to strengthen the Wrexham squad despite the takeover not being complete. 5 February 2021:The Financial Conduct Authority approves the proposed takeover of Wrexham by McElhenney and Reynolds. 9 February, 2021: Wrexham's Hollywood takeover is completed.

[@brianeleighton]

@paulsmith7051 The negotiations with Rob and Ryan were long before then. We had to vote to approve even entering into discussions. We didn't know at the time who it even was who was interested. Spencer Harris laid out the timeline in the special takeover edition of Dragonheart. When Rob first expressed interest in the club was during lockdowns. It is simple facts that we were barely saved from relegation in the season prior to negotiations. They didn't buy the club on the back of the performances of the club barely missing the playoffs the season prior. They bought it and that second half of the season they ran the club. It was then that the club barely missed the playoffs. Sure Wrexham came close to promotion a few times under the stewardship of the WST, but let's not look back with Rose coloured glasses. The club was in the absolute shit when they took over. We were debt free, sure. However that is largely down to the fact that no institution would give the club credit.

[@nishinasuno]

I enjoy click bait titles. Birmingham Cities 20 million pound summer transfer window isn't controversial?

[@AVFCVlogger]

Yeah screw them guys x

[@kevindavies7452]

Rob McAnally. Who’s he !!! It’s Rob McElhenny

[@footylad4032]

Great video mate 👏

[@AVFCVlogger]

Thanks man

[@BALHAM69]

i wouldn’t say controversial, perhaps most hyped team Wrexham afc.😮 Could you try to go CLAPTON CFC this season? They play in tenth tier of English’s football.😅 They do cheapest ticket in world football. They do pay what you want entry. Good watch, thank you. Lincoln city are a good well run club in League one. :)

[@beachhuntersouthafrica]

click bait titles .. its the norm ... we all do it

[@scott5391]

Stockport spent 0? Really?

[@AVFCVlogger]

In that one season

[@Wrecsam1864]

@@AVFCVlogger Stockport spent a fortune the season before ££

[@iluvgsds]

The owner has spent £7.7 million.

[@professionalman1960]

Don't see why controversial. What's the difference between how the current owners have taken over the Villa to what is happening elsewhere and at Wrexham. Could argue without our current owners we may ever have been in the division Blues are currently visiting

[@pauldunning3985]

How can they be the MOST controversial Club in the EFL when they can't compete with Birmingham in the same division?

[@hondomclean6759]

Wrexham is 2nd Birmingham City is 3rd

[@jianpanglam570]

@@hondomclean6759🤣👍

[@adaoraelliott9254]

Birmingham came down from the champ, and got beaten by Shrewsbury, Wrexham went up from League 2 and have won or drawn against most teams so far bar 3, plus we tend to fall apart at away games so it depends how we go against Birmingham City in the reverse fixture.

[@pauldunning3985]

@@hondomclean6759 Correct, I'm a Wrexham fan - financially I'm talking about

[@pauldunning3985]

@@adaoraelliott9254 not sure what point ur making?

[@zagreus101]

MK Dons exists and yet we're the most controversial? Sure, bro, sure

[@AVFCVlogger]

One of

[@gothiclight8048]

Funny you spent a Tuesday morning doing that whilst I was in Maths! 😂

[@michaelhuxley5172]

Just a minor point it's WREXHAM A.F..C. but otherwise a very good take on things at Wrexham.

[@MadAl37]

Ti'n meddwl nad oes neb yng Nghymru yn siarad cymraeg, sbwriel llwyr. You mentioned that we have added funds from the documentary, the club don’t see a penny of that. That all goes to Rob and Ryan. Yes there’s the trickle down, but we don’t get anything directly. #UPST

[@AVFCVlogger]

👏

[@elaineblackhurst1509]

Probably worth mentioning that in spite of everything said in this video, Wrexham have finished *below* Stockport County every season since the 2020 takeover; looking forward to a similar number on County,

[@welshknight1456]

No VAR is brilliant, thats why Championship games and below are much more entertaining.

[@nigelparker8180]

Kai...another brilliant blog.. well done again..I really enjoy your Non Villa uploads..BUT..there is nothing controversial about what Wrexham are..Perhaps only the type of supporters they now attract..my mate is diehard Wrexham..unfortunately his work doesn't permit a season ticket..so now he can't attend games..due to the Glory Hunters..I'm the same at the Villa..used to get in half a dozen games per season before Covid..No chance of a ticket now..I'm yor Grandads era Rotterdam veteran..First game Halifax Town 1970 when I was 5..Am I bitter?? Yep a little bit..has football changed in the 55 years since my first game? He'll Yeh..ask Grandad..Has life changed..Yep..So that's why I'm so grateful for you and the likes of Max Stokes for bringing Villa to my West Wales living room....but I'll always hold my Trump card..When I was 6 months younger than you..I'd seen Dennis Mortimer hold THE TROPHY ALOFT..Money has changed the game..And we have to get used to it..😢

[@cindyfandtx1337]

Controversial really! Genuine owners who have brought their knowledge and skills to market the club in their own unique way. This has generated the funds to allow the club to begin rebuilding both on and off the pitch. The owners are investing in the town not just the football club, how many others do this. So many wrong assumptions made by this guy who would benefit from doing proper research before commenting. At the end of the day though I guess the creator of this video is just a boy indulged by his mummy looking for clicks on his page.

[@sportingbhudda]

People do speak Welsh in Wales. Show more respect when you visit and youll have a warm welcome

[@gavinhopwood624]

Get to Burton... they're a struggling side, but would be sad to see them relegated. Much prefer Slops to go down. UTST.

[@EdwardWalker-j4p]

Iam Welsh born in Wrexham so I love them

[@JeremyCrow-rc8io]

Good to talk to you at full time good video though

[@AVFCVlogger]

Of course man. Feel free to share around

[@Taffycox]

You need to research the history of Wrexham AFC (not AFC Wrexham as you miss-named it at the start). In our years in the NL we had to compete against tin pot Clubs like Fleetwood, Salford, Sutton Utd, Harrogate etc, who had no fans but owners with money (some from dodgy practices). Now that we have proper owners who have proper money and intentions we are getting the success. What is controversial about that?

[@timphillips9954]

A quarter of the population of Wales speak Welsh as a first language. That was a stupid comment fella. Ry'n ni yma o hyd!

[@robharrison5893]

Odd video in so many way

[@gothiclight8048]

Why is ur head randomly floating around at points?

[@kspindle]

Your mom is cute

[@scotty2036]

I wish I had as much hair on my head as this child has in his brows 😂

[@mixodorians12]

Your mum is pure class.

[@Tom.Jackson.]

Watch them several times when no prem about, decent club, yep I have watched the docu's they done well since boys came in, last time watched a stand was bern built, finished? Next you ask Try Worthing FC, massive story there Anyway up the UCL tonight

[@AVFCVlogger]

Juve 🔜

[@garethmckee5927]

But it’s ok for a billionaire to buy man utd etc. Get over it.

[@ianhart4990]

Its a bit better than Coventry! 😂😂 mate, walsall and slough are better than Coventry 😂

[@brynhughes2658]

"AFC Wrexham" and mispronounced "McElhenney" all within the first minute. Turned it off 😂

[@DeniseFactor]

Did I just hear you call them fallen giants😂 . Come on get real.😊

[@edwinstarr5591]

BUBBLE TO BURST,,,,😂😂😂😂

[@garethmckee5927]

It’s Wrexham AFC

[@josephwhitney-lang4037]

who on earth are AFC wrexham. 😂😂

[@huwdavies561]

We are not controversial

[@michaeljones9553]

Its a City!!!

[@elainemason7996]

Fallen giants ?

[@TomLewis-tu6xz]

Some massive errors here mate. Comes across as ignorance and arrogance. Anything for clicks though.

[@JacktheHand]

Controversial ????

[@robdorr1]

Controversial? No. Do you know what the word means. Joke.

[@kidscookingchannel602]

UTV

[@AVFCVlogger]

UTV

[@thatinspo]

Baddddd

[@AVFCVlogger]

Bad?

[@thatinspo]

@ yep, thought this was an AV channel

[@AVFCVlogger]

@@thatinspoit is

[@thatinspo]

@ looks like it 😏

[@Pappa_66]

Why? For clicks? Controversy my ass! Sad😮😢. Where is the "scandal and controversy" when guys like Tom Brady comes and spend at least 5-6 times more money just for the players! Jack shit for the community. Regards from Wrexham "branch" Finland❤❤❤

[@davidhilditch]

Rob MacInally? FFS, Ryan even made a song about his name so people would stop getting it wrong kzbin.info/www/bejne/e4vXc4qhjcd4jpI