Visual Changes In Zelda: Echoes Of Wisdom | Graphics Analysis & Comparison

[@_kevosan]

Finished echoes last night and after watching a few videos on it I’m realizing how many things I didn’t do with the echoes. Like scaling a wall with the spider for example. As someone who replays games a lot, this game seems to be absolutely perfect for it. I’m already thinking about a second playthrough lol.

[@Jabu-Jabu]

@@_kevosan do it on hero mode if you haven’t already. I went through most of my first play through without knowing it even existed

[@_kevosan]

@@Jabu-Jabu Yeah I’m 100%-ing the first file and diving into Hero in a week or so lol.

[@clouds-rb9xt]

@@_kevosanI'm gonna save 100% for Hero Mode

[@dragonsigner]

I've never noticed the problems with Link's Awakening and Zelda EOW frame problems. And I got my phone at 1080p (60fps) I'll check this out myself on my switch ..but I've never noticed it maybe because I don't care about graphics

[@radicalsmith6934]

@@dragonsigner that’s not how any of that works the frame rate on the switch console is not related to what your phone or computer renders videos at

[@TheBlazingNdrman]

Low framerate isn't cause by the visuals themselves, it's caused by rendering them. If you're watching a recorded video of it, your phone doesn't have to render that, so it wont be an issue with your phone.

[@zwicker5585]

@@radicalsmith6934 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

[@zwicker5585]

I havent noticed AT ALL in game… I’m sure some people have trained themselves to notice this stuff but i cant even tell anything is happening. The game feels smooth and doesnt lag or glitch out. Thats smooth to me

[@GiancarloThomazSenoni]

2:06 Link’s Awakening remake level design, was based on a Game Boy game, obliously it would feature a very small world, in fact Saturo Terada, explained that Echoes of Wisdom is 8 times larger then Link’s Awakening remake map

[@ChesuMori]

I legitimately have no idea what people are looking at that they notice frame rate changing. Like, playing Breath of the Wild on Wii U, sure, I noticed when there were big drops to ten, fifteen FPS at specific spots in the Korok Forest, and when sixty FPS was introduced to KZbin, yeah, I could tell how jarringly fluid that Mario Kart video looked... but outside of that? Where are people looking on the screen that they can tell when the frame rate changes? Maybe my eyesight is just weird or something

[@prons_gaming5083]

I've noticed zero frame drops in this game

[@doggyfizzle719]

Speak to an npc and watch how the frames are consistent, then end the dialog and watch the frames drop. That’s when it’s most notable to me

[@Dewdrop0-6]

​@@prons_gaming5083Me as well.

[@zwicker5585]

Yeah I agree. Dropping to 30 is not noticeable whatsoever. As a casual gamer ive never found that anything over 30 is that worth it. I guess I can switch between 30 and 60 and I notice it but 30 has never been bad to me

[@Trianull]

I noticed them at first but over time I sorta tuned them out. It's really not as big of a deal as people make it out to be.

[@kylebarclay9352]

The water effects are so much better here. When you first step foot on the beach, the waves just captivate me.

[@neptunites]

I noticed that while they have the same style, link’s awakening looks much more… plasticky? like they really wanted to make them look like toys made from hard plastic. everything is much shinier. echoes of wisdom still carries that a little bit, but to a lesser extent.

[@ZTriggerGaming]

My best guess is that Echoes of Wisdom was slated to be an early Switch 2 game, but was ported to Switch to fill the gap created in their portfolio by Switch 2 being pushed back. This would explain the absolutely abysmal performance on Switch. Nintendo has always been comfortable with lower frame rates, but EoW takes that to another level entirely. Almost as if it was never meant to run on this hardware. Is this the case? Probably not, but it’s fun to theorize.

[@aidencook5524]

Im not sure what you mean by ABYSMAL performance, it seems to run decently fine for me and the only drops i notice are the parts with like 80 tris on screen after a dungeon. I might be biased though because i hardly care about framerate and performance so i probably notice it less

[@TheHelderVinicius]

It's not abismal at all bro wtf

[@Lsga_22]

@@aidencook5524 in my case, it's noticeable. I love the game, but the frame rate drops are very notorious.

[@JasonBoyce]

it's really not that big of a deal. i just beat it and barely noticed any framerate drops

[@doomsdaybooty1072]

I haven't noticed any performance issues... maybe I'm not that observant, but the game is just so fun, so that if a performance issue broke the immersion, I would consider that a problem... but I've sunk about 25 - 30 hrs in to the game and haven't noticed any frame drops or lag

[@elapindral8191]

I’ve been way to busy enjoying to even notice frame jumps.

[@InazumaDash]

Frame rate never bothered me even once.

[@doranirons1058]

This was I first thing I said when I started playing it has a noticeable upgrade over links awakening

[@PhoticsTV]

Nice video! 🙂 I'm currently waiting until the Switch successor is released before I play Echoes of Wisdom, so hopefully the rumor of backwards compatibility is true and the frame rate isn't an issue.

[@Dsheppp]

4:11 there’s no way I’m the only one that didn’t notice this feature…

[@edwinbur]

@@Dsheppp 😂😅 i was suprised too looool

[@Kev_D.]

This game is a technical marvel on almost 10 year old hardware. Switch 2 patch gone be nice.

[@GiancarloThomazSenoni]

1:48 nice water

[@ChrisLanzer-kl2mc]

Oh by the way I beat EoW this morning. Now it's time to 100%it👍👍👍😁😁😁

[@aidencook5524]

Good job!!! I hope you have fun with the horse races 🙃

[@ChrisLanzer-kl2mc]

lol.. That short course what? Now it's personal😤lol​@@aidencook5524

[@AnthonySmith-bj9mo]

hi AndresRestart

[@Nextendoh]

Amazing game. Don’t mind the frames enough to really care :)

[@put4558350]

I think Nintendo design Echoes Of Wisdom for Switch 2 with more power DLSS and VRR.

[@wihatmi5510]

I miss games being maze-like. Open worlds took so much from it. And they still could do it so well if they just withholded certain traversal features and unlock them over time like in a Metroidvania. The games would be so much better structured and overall superior.

[@ChrisLanzer-kl2mc]

Yes it can be annoying but it doesn't ruin the game for me!!!

[@Oryon7]

Most of Nintendo's games are so beautiful. Many of them are more VISUALLY APPEALING than what I see on much more powerful current gen console hardware, despite the immense gap in capabilities. It's clear that Nintendo's full potential - as well as that of their partners studios - is still severely restricted. People aren't ready for what they'll be achieving on Switch 2. I can't wait!

[@daaishifeeling]

fr! i think so many games coming out nowadays are stuck on having top tier graphics performance-wise to the detriment of a good visual identity. i can't wait to see what they do with the switch 2 (assuming it has significantly better specs), totk was already absolutely gorgeous even with all the limitations of the switch (oof the frame rate drops when using ultrahand tho)

[@chooongusbug724]

Echoes of Middom

[@painuchiha2694]

The framerate is kinda bad but im confused as to why people are shocked as if most Zelda games on switch didn’t already have performance issues lol I think the game looks great overall

[@alexbolt5]

I think its due to how frequent and sporadic it is. Its not game breaking per say cause it will just dip to 30 fps but Hyrule warriors was and is still just a mess compared to this.

[@anthonynelson3536]

All games need to be 60 or higher but I really hope this runs better on s2 it's the only thing that's holding it down for me

[@rebeccahannah117]

Great video Andres!

[@GlimmerMythra4]

How are you?

[@rebeccahannah117]

@@GlimmerMythra4 good! 👍

[@metroidfighter90]

I think you softened the blow a bit too much Andres.

[@ilikezelada1090]

Sorry bro I had to put you on 1.25 speed 😭

[@KJ4VGA]

Tiktok brain in action

[@SireDragonChester]

But main question. How does it run? That what most gamers care about.

[@MasterMayhem78]

Stop flaming.

[@daaishifeeling]

1. it's not what "most gamers" care about lol. if someone is a switch gamer they most likely don't care that much about top tier performance, they care more about (in the case of zelda games at least) puzzles, exploration, story, etc. than frame rate and shit. the frame rate drops are a bit jarring but not absolutely game breaking 2. he literally talks about it for like half the video you should watch it before commenting

[@WarriorOfWriters]

Why would there need to be frame rate drops? It's not Tears of the Kingdom. There's not a lot happening on screen.