Vlog: The Delica may not have been my best purchase...

I muse on my wondering ability to buy not-very-good examples of vehicles. What do I do next?
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[@TheGramophoneGirl]

Mr Hubnut, you should keep it. Good Delica's seem to go for good money. They're either £400 for a scrapper or £4,000+ for a reasonable one and nothing in between. Definitely worth keeping yours going.

[@frazzleface753]

His was inbetween, it was 1200 quid.

[@richardsutton01]

@@frazzleface753 Yes, but that was mate's rates.

[@millomweb]

@@richardsutton01 Looks like it - £800 above market value based on OP's comment !

[@superseven220]

@@richardsutton01 some mate that was! 😃

[@sarahdell4042]

15k in the USA which is crazy.

[@superbracey]

Don't fret. I know of a man who bought a Yugo with no tailgate.

[@alan-sk7ky]

And a biscuit chassis Tercel...

[@Mrflash222006]

It has a tailgate it’s just not attached to the car

[@MrScotttraynor]

that silly man ;) who bought a yugo, should really look for that Saturday night Live tv ad for the "Claygo" mid 80s when the yugo came out, it even came with "Form fitting seats!"

[@nigelh4617]

The tailgate is merely observing current distancing rules ;-)

[@superbracey]

I'd like a Delica. I enjoyed owning my '96 Shogun LWB.

[@Parknest]

Ian, this is the perfect choice for a daily driver. Make it the number one priority in your fleet and get it MoTd and 100% sorted. Elly's now got an MoT so you can crack on with the Delica.

[@twocvbloke]

Sometimes it's just best to not look at the monetary value, but look instead at its' practical value, even if it does have a bit of a drinking problem... :D

[@kevinkeeney6693]

Its value may increase as the vehicle ages. VW microbuses were dirt cheap used years ago and it's astounding to see how much they increased in recent years. You never know.

[@volvo480]

Monetary value is only an issue with collector's cars, all others are just emotional value.

[@BarryAllenMagic]

For someone who once used a Swan Vesta matchbox tray and gaffer tape as a fuse-box cover on an Austin 1300, I could NEVER fault anyone elses attempts at bodgery!

[@vwestlife]

Only Hub Nut would cite wiper performance as the number one reason to keep a vehicle!

[@Charlie_Crown]

Thought the same, just as I was thinking get shot of it, cut your losses. Also thought €100 for the City Rover was far too cheap, especially for a runner

[@davidfos84]

Love your videos mate. Super interesting and borderline ASMR.

[@aaronbiggin1103]

We all know your not a proper mechanic, but like most of us that watch this your doing what you can as best you can because atleast you know how it was done. Keep up the great work 👍

[@thelostshadowofhanzo]

I had found with my Delica 2.8 the turbo pressure relief valve/diaphragm was opening to early. I was not coming close the the boost I should have been, and this was with a new turbo installed. I had boost gauge installed and then fitted a boost control valve. With it now making full boost and also I did the fuel pump pintal adjustment it is much better when setting off and at full throttle. These old girls need abit of loving and thinking outside the box.

[@stevechambers500V8]

Triangle of inattention 😂

[@geezerdiamond]

Oh, I thought it was “inner tension” 😂 The suspense of seeing where the dribble will go!

[@IwasBoredintheUK]

As a general rule, the picture of a fuel pump and or little triangle is placed within the fuel gauge on the same side as filler neck. So picture on the right, fill up on the right and vice versa.

[@umvhu]

There are neoprene foam tiles with a selfadhesive backing available which make exceptional soundproofing, branded versions are expensive, your 2CV can be quiet.

[@MrAuriga67]

I would put the Delica in for an MOT, and see what it passes / fails on. As long as it does not fail on terminal rust - anything else is repairable. Its a good project car - and a great parts runner / daily driver, especially if you get a unit near to where you live. For me it would tick all the boxes, being Diesel automatic, indicators on what i think is the correct side, and a great seating position.

[@landcrab75]

One of the best MPV’s from that period was the Citroen/Peugeot 806. Buy them for £500 and get 40mpg off the HDI version. Nobody wants them but they are just brilliant. Even seen one on eBay for 99p which didn’t sell

[@johnmoruzzi7236]

Having non-binding brakes will seriously enhance fuel economy as well !

[@ree274]

What’s this ? I have a delica and I am intrigued !!

[@mehrzahl2219]

Apart from the obvious lack of maintenance (wipers, brakes and tyres) it really isn't that bad. If you buy cars cheaply, you end up doing those jobs. I'd keep it and fix it. It may turn out to be a keeper since it is so practical.

[@briintel]

To begin with the car had been sitting. It needs discs and pads and possibly new calipers all round. Your going to get that with nearly any car thats sat. But I think it's worth keeping and doing up. Good luck! :)

[@terabyte1695]

Ian ,i cured my power steering leak with leak stop,that was a year ago, on my Toyota, once the brakes were done she was ok and just the usual mot things. My toyota which was very similar to your Delica was about 25 MPG ,so that's good if you get 27 ,i think the vehicles a good all rounder ,and you spent £ 500 on that Yugo which you could have spent on the Delica so its swings and roundabouts.... i prefer the more unusual cars you have like foxanne and tuc ,but equally if you brought a Marina i would love it. Take care..👍👍👍👍👍

[@travellifewithjobo5740]

6 years ago ,I purchased a very small bottle of Olive Oil Ear Drops.You only use acouple of drops,and I have only use them twice.

[@bentullett6068]

You will need the Delica to do long hauling Journeys now you are allowed to leave Wales. Also once you get a tow bar fitted it will be really useful.

[@graemestrong3727]

Definitely worth spending a bit on it to put it right. As you say it is unique in your collection and it is an interesting vehicle in its own right. I have an old 6cylinder E46 BMW because I like the engine and the styling of it. Took 6 months of tinkering and fettling last year (including new brake lines, all new suspension and rebuilding all the calipers) to get it on the road, but it's worth it to have something fun :-) Still has things that need attention, but that's half the fun 😁 About to do the same for my dad's old Berlingo so it's tip top come MOT time. Just a driveway tinkerer, but not too bad with the spanners ;-)

[@borderlands6606]

Everyone needs a flouncy velour 4 x 4 MPV.

[@cardiffgiant9406]

Mmmmmm Velour.....

[@johnhunt2388]

I bought a car in 1972 had it 6 months and the motor blew, it was a 1962 model so I went to the wreckers got another motor but that only went about 6 months so I put in and had that motor reconditioned thought I will still keep it so that I had the use of the motor and that went till 2012 before I put it in to be done up as it was using 4ltrs of oil every full of petrol so I got my moneys worth only now its down for a new water pump.Of course I've had to work on other things over the years but I've always got home in it.

[@nazdagg2027]

being a competent mechanic means knowing how to fix the problems and having the patience to keep going. be safe, have fun.

[@RoadCone411]

I know you are a good distance away, but one day I'd like to see you drive around the Great Orme in Llandudno [post-COVID]. Great scenery, there is a small toll collected to drive around the hill on a switchback one lane road, but it's a fantastic driving road. It's meant to be taken in slowly, not quickly. If nothing else, you can drive to the top and there is a great view! You'd be brave to take the 2CV up there, if you are looking for a challenge (or a dare, your choice!) but any of the HubNut vehicles make for some quite excellent viewing and photographing. No, the Great Orme has nothing to do with the Delica or your upcoming decisions with the vehicle. In my opinion, I think it's a great little 4x4 minivan, problems aside, but I'm not the one stuck paying your repair costs in time or money. So good luck! Hopefully the Delica works out.

[@markcherriman6136]

Try getting the engine steam cleaned first , then when dry have a good butchers underneath and hopefully all will be revealed .

[@richardorchard5197]

Keep it Ian,it’s a safe people mover,oil leaks can fixed .

[@huwkelvinmorgan3575]

I have an idea that could solve the Delica dilemma also boost your viewing audience and would after its is finished make the run to the car lockup as cheap as chips we are talking £2 a round trip. The idea i is to take out the engine remove the exhaust pipe and slowly fit an old fork lift truck motor got for around £300 then order a motor controller for £200 yes the prices are around that level if you use the Paul and Sabrina motor controller also you will be dragging in viewers from E.V build forums from around the globe also its a light weight car. ( recap : 1 cheap car lockup runs 2 boost to views 3 resell value is massive 4 you could power the car lockup from the E.V's Battery

[@tonyford7987]

Best thing you did was getting rid of the Tercel and Rover, but the you go and buy the Yugo that would have sorted the up coming MOT on the Delica.

[@ChristinaGXL]

You're getting about the same MPG I'm getting out of my V6 Mondeo with a slippy auto box, so that's not too bad.

[@paultaylor9652]

Lovely Jubbly, always a pleasure to watch Mr HubNut.

[@skylin76]

You reflect my sentiments about my 1991 Mitsubishi Pajero automatic which from time to time I keep thinking I ought to sell it on. But, like you, I enjoy driving it and your spot on in that you must adapt your driving style to the tempo of the vehicle. Trying to hustle it along just results in more volume and clag seen in the rear view mirror!

[@christhesnaildriver]

Im a mechanic Ian, and believe me you do very well given available working conditions and the variety of vehicles you have to juggle between. I suffer those same two problems, and even as a qualified spannerer, its really no easier, other than maybe being better prepared with the tools for the job (though hampered equally by no mains electricity available, so welding requires cranking up a generator - which the neighbours love.... ahem).

[@royster211085]

I agree with you, if I'm 50/50 on a car near mot time, send it in and check then decide.

[@mccrackenphillip]

If its good for both transporting & daily driving I will keep it could use a bit more power try a tune it looks new enough for program small things like a performance air filter kit

[@stephenjcuk7562]

Yes, yes, persivere with it. I am, so you should. When it first appeared I was not impressed yet now I want it named and a T shirt created. Its is so Hubnut.

[@johnlladron735]

Ian, this vlog charts you talking yourself into keeping the Delica. Thank you!

[@wornoutgrafter9581]

When you take ownership of a well used vehicle expect to open the wallet , if you spend £600 on safety / reliability parts its only equivalent to three monthly payments on a vehicle on the chucky ( finance ) after this period the motoring costs are minimal if you are a competant diy person and the vehicle of choice is body wise solid . Bangernomics works for me .

[@martinowl]

Get it through the mot, then sell it for something of a similar size that uses far less fuel. It’s heavy consumption will always be an issue even if when everything else is fixed.

[@travellifewithjobo5740]

My brother is a professional auto technician and tried bio-fuel in his Dicovery 1 a few years ago.He soon stopped ,it caused many problems.

[@lipsee100]

I,v just been though the same hoops,,,I had a Rover 75 tourer ,,and really liked the car,,,but usual things body rot knackered suspension,pending MOT,,,So do fix up or scrap,,,Well I scraped ,got £80.... I bought another 75 tourer cost me £1500,, I could have got cheaper but I particularly liked this model,,,now pleased as chuff

[@stuartsaunders4518]

I've had both ears hoovered out before it really is a revelation! You've got this far I think the car should be a keeper

[@The_Last_Post]

Defo keep the Delica. It’s an investment if you put money into it, the value of these are going up. It’s got a lot of love from your Hubnutters and it’ll draw views to your channel. It’s a better bet than those cars you’ve just let go and just think of the money you’ve saved by getting rid of them, so ideal to spend it on the Deli. Both the City Rover and Turcell were rotten and what value would they hold once done. You enjoy the driving, the practicality and versatility of the Delica so I’d say it’s a total win win. Spend the money that was destined for those just departed and enjoy your new purchase :)

[@DANO2015]

Stick with it and get the engine mapped for more torque and power 👍🏻

[@OldCarsNewVan]

I’d stick with it - good big family vehicle and when it’s sorted it’ll be useful for years. And cost wise you’ve got some margin before you’ve put too much money in. Up to £4K if it’s sorted and you’d get it back. Dare I be controversial? If it was me and funds were tight I’d sell the GSA because I think you’d make a profit on that and would free up funds. But your idea of a pre MOT is a good one to see exactly what you’re dealing with. All the best with it.

[@davidwilson2155]

You really need to keep it Ian!! there"s less & less of these traditional suv"s around! so that mean"s the value is only going to keep going up & up!! Once you have it running perfect & all repaired, its definately worth even treating the old girl to a shiny new paint job!!

[@pdsnpsnldlqnop3330]

On TV there was a tour of the Bentley factory the other day, apparently their customers have eight cars on average. So, think positive mental attitude. You could flip the Delica, Yugo and the rest to upgrade to a Bentley owner's garage, e.g.: 1 - for those trips to Europe every summer: a Bentley Continental GT, 2 - instead of the Delica you could get a vehicle with diff locks for green laning, e.g. a 2020 AMG G-Wagen, 3 - on lovely summer days you would need a sportscar to drive along Borth beach with the top down, e.g. a MacLaren 720s, 4 - a modest project car that will keep its value, e.g. a Ferrari Testarossa, 5 - in Mid Wales you need to haul stuff. Like logs. A modern Toyota Hilux should do the job, 6 - for those trips to classic car shows in England a VW California camper van would be a helpful addition to the eight car garage of a Bentley owner, 7 - obviously a Tesla Model Y so people think you can virtue signal, 8 - Oh, and keeping Ellie somewhere in the back of the garage so you can remember where it all began. If you took the viewers with you on this journey from Yugo to typical Bentley owner garage then you would probably not have to grumble about £200 on tyres. But, by then you would be a typical Bentley owner. George the cat would be sent to Eton. There would be no cool videos because Bentley owners don't do such things. So please stay being Mr HubNut and keep up what you do. Your least wonderful vehicles are brilliant as far as the viewer is concerned compared to what would be in the closed world of the mythical Bentley garage.

[@andrewlaw]

Hey, at least you're getting your hands dirty trying to do your own maintenance. You've already found a good source for information with Eric O at South Maine Autos, there's also Eric The Car Guy and Scanner Danner to refer to if you need guidance. You do need to invest in some cordless power tools for your lockup though.

[@robtucker8128]

Ian, if it has steering rack problems, get rid, as refurb units are rarely much cop

[@Turnbull50]

Your always good to watch, your like the rest of us when it comes to trying to fix things. I always look forward to your videos

[@scottishcarenthusiastsandtrain]

I have some Wynn's stop leak if you want Ian, unopened, but agree with getting it in for a pre-check to see what needs doing

[@barrybadass3481]

Keep it they are good in snow .

[@kevinwhelan8126]

Ah - I was wondering if the Delica was the same as my Nissan NV200, as some of those were badged as Mitsubishi. But no yours is a real Mitzi if it has clap-hand wipers (NV200s have conventional wipers). Many thanks for sharing, if the vehicle suits you hang on to it😀

[@paulcalverley8131]

Sell all your cars apart from TWC and EIily and by this ford farmont Estate on eBay. You know you want it and we all want you to have it.

[@frazzleface753]

I don't think you're a terrible mechanic, Ian. The fact that you got FoxAnn roadworthy (including dropping the engine in etc), and drove her many miles gets major respect from me! And look at what you've achieved with little TWC! Maybe focus on one or two projects, but don't stop buying terrible old cars, because that's why we love your channel! Buying terrible old cars will always produce mixed fortunes. :)

[@northstar1950]

I know nothing about these motors first a question......is it a diesel? Regarding the keeping or selling. Now I like cars like this with a commanding view of the road, if the basic structure is good then it's probably worth investing some cash in it, you have already started, how much you need to spend on it might not be recoverable when and if you eventually sell it but is that really the point. Good luck with it and get those brakes sorted :) I often ask questions before watching the whole upload so ignore the question at the start!

[@niklaswejedal463]

Looking forward to the continuing adventures of the Delica!

[@Ratty_Rex]

Second guessing a decision is something we all do. As people have said...... at the time it felt right. My £1000 car has cost me £9000 to keep on the road. I could have put two of my laid up cars back on the road for that (if I had it in one lump sum) As a foot note....... don't want to run a vehicle on food, but (like me) happy to run it on squished dinosaurs 🤣🤣

[@HubNut]

Good point. I refuse to add up the bills on the 2CV, but it's comfortably into five-figures over 20 years.

[@MrGarethDHughes]

Everything will be fine I am sure. Better and cheaper if you can maybe get some used clean filtered vegetable oil. Will keep your costs down.

[@springy-2112]

ok 2nd comment on this video ! don't worry about your mechanical ability , you are getting stuff done whilst learning whilst making really interesting videos. Each problem overcome is a problem that's a bit easier next time. I was a "professional" mechanic for 20 years . Now just a hobby mechanic (it's more fun on your own vehicles) And believe me there are always jobs which should go swimmingly with a set time and rate.. which turn into a complete cluster funk ! due to corrosion lack of correct information or safety issues when you find the part next to the one you're replacing is also screwed. Just keep chipping away you have way more ability mechanically than most because you are not afraid to have a go or at least have a look and then make a decision .. Don't put yourself down Ian we all respect you , I don't look at your videos and think ."what the heck is this idiot doing!" I think " hey he's got that one sorted and I know that's normally a nightmare !" .. keep being you Ian and thanks again for the wonderful videos 👍🏻☮❤

[@Adam_T]

If you like it and its useful (and it does seem to be really useful to me) then I`d suggest persisting , its not as if its rotten or anything ......

[@geddy1972]

i used to love driving my old 94 previa but unfortunetly the horrific fuel consumption forced me to sell it.

[@peterstringer8236]

Ian u need red or kero on that your in Wales easy to find some

[@mrbox111]

i feel the same about my discovery decided to stick with it it is just to useful

[@androo4519]

I guess you'll have to find out what's really wrong with it before you decide. But what would you replace it with?

[@DiveJersey]

I think it will turn out to be one of the best cars you have ever had Ian. I have had a few Mitsubishi's and they have been excellent cars. A couple were a little neglected when I got them but with a bit of love they became solid, reliable vehicles. I wouldn't call my current 2004 Shogun refined, but I wouldn't part with it. Lots of owners out there who can help.

[@pistolpeds]

2.5 and 2.8 turbo Delicas were, and are, a great vehicle. Buying one that is rusty and badly mainained is always going be have a bad outcome in $'s. In Australia we don't salt the roads and have as tough a terrain as any in the world, bar none. Rust in vehicles here over the last 20+ years is virtually none existent here for any vehicle. A good, well maintained vehicle costs good dollars. A man with little experience or low mechanical ability or inclination should never buy a fixer upper. Diesel turbo Delicas are are great vehicle. High ground clearance, great entry/exit overhangs, tow ability, reliable, luxurious for a van, no computer, last of conventional diesel era (non common rail/computer) and a van far more often and more seriously off roaded than any other van. When was the last time you saw a 4x4 Mercedes Sprinter on a serious tag along ? Not a criticism of you, just defending a great vehicle for it's day and making a point.

[@MaddRIP1]

you may not be a spanner god but you learn from your mistakes which is how we all learn!

[@supervitz7178]

Repair it with cheap/second hand parts and do as much of the work yourself! It'll be good when you sort the major things.

[@lorddavid5995]

Keep up the great videos

[@jbz2079]

Without doubt if it does not need a huge amount of welding, I would stick with it. It's a useful vehicle and once sorted will run and run. Ie- easy peasy compared to that bloody Yugo!

[@Robhalifax]

I like the Delica. Stick with it Ian.

[@CaptHollister]

Ah, the eternal question: is it preferable to throw more money at an old car in the hope of keeping it usable or to cut your losses and take a financial hit and sell it on ? Ideally you should not do what I usually end up doing: throw money at it to fix the current issues and end-up selling at a loss shortly afterwards because something else has gone wrong. Edit: Many years ago I switched to buying diesel cars for myself. One of the immediate effects was that I was no longer concerned about point-to-point speed records, but became concerned on improving MPG. Diesels will do that to you.

[@sg8539]

Im afraid Ian, your mate saw you coming with this one, £1200..ouch, should have been half that esp if buying from said friend or aquaintance. Thanks Ian, great video as usual.

[@derrickfelix6206]

IAN, your a dangerous mechanic, but best of all you record so! you have jumped of the track with this 4x4, what you said is your idea to green lane, is fantastic, only you have already the best model to do such.Your 2cv is the best model made for green lanes. Then you buy a stupid 4x4 a complete lemon, be inactive sir, in moving it on. HubNut is so valuable to Britain and KZbin.If I had to improve stocks simply another 2cv is required. Take care as 19 is being reintroduced into society. We should be hit real hard by this, this time. Take care cheers.

[@jamespotter3334]

Have you looked into buying another one for spares or repairs and making a good one out the two and selling off what’s left? Had a mate who did this with a pajero.

[@leeallen7491]

I've spent money over the last four days...and both very hubnut and will require to car stickers...My first purchase a 2003 ex London Taxi and my second purchase a 1989 Rover 213s..no more modern stuff for me

[@argonautsuk]

Good evening from Manchester ☺

[@rollingtroll]

Japanese parts though, stupidly expensive. I'd reconsider and trade it for a Xsara Picasso. Same wipers.

[@HubNut]

But not the same practicality or off-road ability. ;-)

[@Azurael]

I think I got lucky with my car. It's rated at 36MPG in the very unrealistic lab test but I've been getting that without even doing any long distances in it during lockdown. Weirdly, I've gone from a 2001 Laguna 1.8 through a then-new 2017 Mini Cooper S and now to a 2004 525d auto in the last decade and they've all had quite similar fuel economy in practice despite huge disparities in size, weight and performance and the modern Mini being rated at 48MPG (yeah, right.) The bus looks fun but I don't think I could deal with 27MPG including long journeys... We're those figures from before or after you fixed the binding brakes?

[@metricstormtrooper]

You need a finance manager, one who takes your wishes into account, thinks them over then ignores them. Here in Australia, driving a Delica would label you as a bit of a wanker.

[@SeasideGarage]

Dont worry... Its a part of the car bug... I did the exact same with a GSA once... :P

[@danieleregoli812]

Oh my friend, don't we all commit mistakes?! I know a thing or three about bad purchases, yet I'm still a happy man...

[@danentwisle8885]

From the channels point of view Ian, the Mitsubishi will bring you great content. Keep it

[@paulillingworth1242]

I’d be tempted to stick with the Delica it’s probably going to be a good investment. Unless it’s drastic fails

[@julianlangdon3456]

...and do not even think about putting anything in the tank that hasn't come out of a Fuel Pump at a forecourt. It'll cost you much more than you save, in the long run.

[@davebicker8618]

It happens. We ALL have the 'it was a good idea at the time' moments. (Wrote the man who visited Ebay motors whilst worse for drink and regretted it...)

[@michaeljones1475]

@@glennpowell3444 I bought a Lescom Smart Watch from eBay around year ago, the battery had to be replace and now the app for configuring it has disappeared from play store, so no way of setting the correct time.

[@mikelou2422]

Delica is a reliable robust vehicle with a good name in NZ ,stick with it

[@itsmephil2255]

Keep it.....you will regret selling it in the long run,sometimes it's not all about the money....it's for the love

[@nigelh4617]

With clap-hands wipers, you don't get the 'shark's fin of mild disappointment' at the base of the screen.

[@damianfuller74]

Takes a good few tanks to get used to driving a car to the best economy! Couldn't agree more about the w123! Mine is shocking!

[@Ragnar8504]

I'm still convinced in order to be officially allowed to drive a W123 (particularly a green one) you need hunting attire, a cigar and a yappy dachshound! :-D Search for pictures of Bavarian actor Gustl Bayrhammer and you'll know what I mean!

[@MGBetts1]

The fact is that if your cars were average, economical, low-maintenance.. eg. great, but boring (like Mk2 Escorts) your channel wouldn't be much fun! That's just not HubNut!

[@660einzylinder]

I wonder how much of a MK2 'scort £1200 would buy these days? 🤣🤣

[@MGBetts1]

@@660einzylinder - You won't get much for that. Unless you mean a Corgi/Dinky/Matchbox one!

[@RPGeert]

And the people don't commenting (except this time) have the same mindset and skills as you. Like me😂😂

[@antonioercolino6087]

The Delica is a keeper ! Just think about the versatility it offers and that wiper action !! :)

[@stepheng8779]

Best of luck, think the distance to the unit is making you fall out of love with your vehicles. Text can come over as patronising, don't mean it that way 👍

[@mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm420]

I don't really see the point in having a 4x4 as your day to day vehicle. Green laning will not happen that often.

[@rimmersbryggeri]

Keep it. Its a cool quirky car.

[@andysalter4473]

You've got to keep it, a little bit of tinkering and you've got a car for ages!

[@sim6699]

Run it on cooking oil for the entertainment value

[@pauldavies6037]

I understand the Hubnut philosophy but this vehicle is pretty rare for a good supply of second hand or new parts is in poor shape to start with only worth a few hundred pounds but its a useful one for you but I'm sure looking on the internet could have found something a better for what you paid

[@RichieRouge206]

I like the Delica a lot so I’d persevere with if personally. I love wafty cars Triangle of inattention! That tickled me. Is that exclusive to clap hand vehicles like Zafiras and newer Focuses too?