Planets Don't Exist

Coming to you with some epistemology from a treehouse in Indiana, it's two brothers using a loophole in their KZbin rules to make a nice, long final episode of Pizzamas 2022.
(you can only get your Pizzamas stuff through this weekend AND THEN NEVER AGAIN www.pizzamas.com)
As always, I am sad that it is over and somehow once again, I am ending with more video ideas than I entered with!!
I just wanted to bring you some peace with respect to your feelings about Pluto. You don't have to worry about whether Pluto is a planet because planets do not exist.
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[@vlogbrothers]

pizzamas.com everything there disappears on Sunday! -John

[@untappedinkwell]

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[@pyroshell5652]

Oh cool, Hank has Sashiko stitch!

[@BartonChittenden]

**EVERYTHING**??? I wish I had more warning. I feel I should get my affairs in order.

[@simsoundschannel]

I got mine yesterday 🥰🥰🥰

[@kellyspaghettti]

@@simsoundschannel0

[@lighningshock]

Hank: Planets don’t exist Also Hank: a stick is a hat if I put it on my head.

[@roftherealm3418]

*gets flashbacks to butt is legs*

[@elisakeller8912]

The butter is air.

[@bhelliom3]

Hank would be either terrible or fantastic at Taskmaster

[@senor135]

underrated comment

[@jaxlaxsurprise]

@@bhelliom3 I would love to see Hank on Taskmaster.

[@ALuckyGrenade]

John's realization of "Wait, I'm not 3 dimensional to them!" is one of the funniest things I've heard all week

[@untappedinkwell]

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[@CSNCSNCSN]

All light-images are projected onto the 2D surface at the back of your eyes, whether it came from a 2D screen or a purportedly 3D object.

[@trixter21992251]

"and all my characters are one-dimensional!" Oooh snap :D just kidding

[@gljames24]

@@CSNCSNCSN But you have two eyes offset by a distance and irises that can focus at different depths.

[@hexeddecimals]

@@gljames24 all that does is allow us to judge the distances of objects in a 2D image

[@OmegaTurtle]

I like that we’ve evolved from “oh no, Pluto isn’t considered a planet anymore” to “screw it, nothing’s a planet anymore.”

[@NoNameAtAll2]

IAU shouldn't have started this look where we ended up!

[@fartherout.1046]

tellurium: named after earth :)

[@vlogbrothers]

There it is!! Tellus is latin for Earth! Pretty weird that the Earth doesn't have very much tellurium, though.

[@joshsimpson1283]

Oh, I thought it was americium because America is the only part of earth that matters 😂

[@sneakylemon8513]

I also saw cerium named after ceres (I take it we're counting dwarf planets if we're counting plutonium) and helium is apparently named after the sun which is cool. Also palladium is named after an asteroid and selenium after the moon. I had no idea! This is so cool!

[@tadcooper9733]

@@vlogbrothers Isn't Selenium named after the moon?

[@SweetCarolineBAMBAMBAM]

Awh I had a feeling it was Earth-related. But I was worried Hank was counting Earth itself as an element (either from the Greeks or Avatar: The Last Airbender)

[@aaronbrrrrr]

I've seen them all, and this... THIS is the greatest of all vlogbrothers videos. It has it all: Hope, despair, mortality, laughter, nihilism, capitalism, educational ramblings, silly nonsense, beautiful b-roll, metaphorically resonant sunlight, and a staggering realization that reality (Hank) and language (John) are too far apart to coexist, but eternally inseparable. I don't think it gets more perfect than this.

[@MattPalka]

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[@Lindseydftba]

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[@paigel8777]

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[@tomshenn]

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[@muthonimwangi3850]

Pop culture……

[@mooncowtube]

I ABSOLUTELY NEED A SHIRT WITH "Almost everything we think of as dichotomous is in fact spectral" ON IT.

[@samkorn4047]

YES. I would buy it

[@etanesnil7072]

yesss

[@snezhanalazareva5638]

Omg I literally had to screenshot that line for future reference

[@HunchbackJack]

Yes. I was disappointed that Hank kind of just blew past that one when I think John wanted to give it some time to land. Maybe Hank's just used to John saying things perfectly, though, and it's no big deal to him.

[@anandsharma7430]

This is one of the first things you realise when you first understand irrational numbers, real numbers and recurring decimal fractions (e.g. 1/3). And then school and people and society make us forget all that as we grow up. The name "real numbers" is chosen well.

[@sam-the-moomin]

I can’t believe how calm John is about his brother getting raptured right next to him

[@sam-the-moomin]

Kinda rude of him to not be more concerned

[@lisareed5669]

Kinda rude of Hank not to switch seats and let John go first! After you!

[@Epinardscaramel]

It's gonna be a “vlogbrother” situation now 😅

[@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721]

As someone with a sibling, yeah, that sounds about right.

[@JordanThatblondegirl]

Alotta big brother energy right there

[@rcusick2465]

Hank: "We don't know what light is...OR EVEN REALITY" John: *starts having immediate existential crisis* Hank: "But we're not gonna talk about that."

[@Shrimp8008]

Me: *having an existential crisis along with John*

[@watcherofwatchers]

Dead meme is dead.

[@carolynerex]

But can we talk about this please??? Because I started reading about it and now I need a Hanksplanation.

[@AnnikaOakinnA]

I'm not gonna talk about that in my monologue!

[@spectacularsceptile3879]

@@carolynerex what were you able to find???

[@kinemaxis526]

So I think the 5th one is Tellurium - named after Earth (Terra). But if you're including Plutonium, then you should probably also count Palladium and Cerium named after the dwarf planets Pallas and Ceres. There are also Selenium and Helium for the moon and sun.

[@danielsieker9927]

Tellurium is not named after Terra, but after Tellus, which still means earth. Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tellurium#History at 2022-11-05, 17:50 UTC

[@yitzakIr]

I was thinking Xenon, even though the exoplanet was named after the element

[@reeseebersole7973]

Krypton!!!

[@DracoSuave]

@@danielsieker9927 Tellus Mater is, actually, a name for the Roman goddess Terra Mater. In fact, Tellus was the older name--it came first.

[@alyssa_mariemusic]

Maybe even consider Vanadium? Since Vanadis is Frejya, which corresponds strongly within the pantheon to Venus?

[@ElfLady]

"Everything we think of as dichotomous is in fact spectral." - John I love that.

[@wearewhatshewants]

A real 🤯 moment

[@carolynmacklin9199]

well, almost everything. its a spectrum you see.

[@CEDEREL]

@@carolynmacklin9199 reality is a spectrum

[@NarwhalAcademy]

I’m nonbinary and I really want that on a tee shirt now 😂

[@cheddarcheezit2647]

​@@NarwhalAcademy SAME

[@nicholashulett3916]

To watch John go from terrified to stand on a table to casually looking over the edge of a tree house while leaning on a rickety rail is some serious growth. Proud of you.

[@TheGundamGirl17]

I had this same thought! (Also I'd be pretty scared up there, so props to John!)

[@RandomerThanAverage]

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[@debrachambers1304]

When was he scared on a table?

[@jadedalton2662]

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[@maxravenwood3877]

@@debrachambers1304 there's a video about it from like 13 years ago called 'I am afraid of heights'

[@sara-ww8eq]

I love how every time there's a reunion video John is like "yesterday Hank told me a terrifying science thing" like that just happens all the time

[@themaggattack]

Pretty much!

[@lavalamps9007]

🤣 literally everytime in dear hank and john

[@AndreaCrisp]

Yes! Love it! I'm sure Hank is a walking Scishow episode for those lucky enough to be in his orbit. The curiosity and excitement of these two can't be contained. Lucky for us, they also have a passion for education, connection and sharing.

[@dorothyclaretessman2263]

Hot sauce suggestion: Survivors thrive AND burn

[@samandom8772]

Thats what happens when your brother is The Fix

[@Chevalerezk]

The fact that the quotes “Language is inherently less rich than reality” and “If it rides, I lives” both come from the same person is a wonderful thing.

[@zyaicob]

I love the fact that his brother originated "y'all's y'all is y'all's call"

[@Cisaadeh]

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[@meganshadley7308]

"Everything that we think of as dichotomous is in fact spectral" This is why I'm still here after ten years: the incredible out-of-nowhere profundity.

[@irishlluv22]

I came here to see someone quote that line from the video. Perfection!!

[@rubius0]

Me too

[@livigerbase6312]

But the spectral is between two opposites, so the dichotomy still exists, its just deeper than we normally think.

[@LucasAmericano]

That blew my mind to smithereens.

[@yuvalne]

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[@shta2]

"The thing about Hank is you have to let him finish even if you've seen the TikTok" That hit home for me

[@shieldon530]

John: We did it… Hank: (visible anxiety for what’s to come) John: … Joe

[@vlogbrothers]

I've only been. here five days and that was the fourth time.

[@jonobrannan7406]

@@vlogbrothers Wow, he's behind schedule!

[@jcKobeh]

(where's the quote from?)

[@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep]

@@jcKobeh The video footage of Kamala Harris calling Joe Biden for the first time after finding out they won the election. She was out in public on a run so news cameras captured the moment.

[@chaotickreg7024]

@@jcKobeh I assume it's Kamala Harris saying "We did it Joe!" over the phone to Joe Biden after they got enough electoral votes to win the election. *Danger: opinions ahead!* I don't really like Kamala but I voted blue to beat Trump and so "We did it Joe!" has a sort of sick irony to it. But it's hilarious and I want to say it to every Joe I talk to.

[@mineola_]

The fact that Hank only wanted to talk about planets so he could call the video educational and make it long, because he wanted to chat with John is so sweet.

[@LeopardMask12]

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[@Lindseydftba]

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[@RoboticYeti]

Right?? Also a good argument that reunion videos should also be exempt from the 4 minute rule

[@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721]

But I'm sure that part of him also just really wanted to talk about planets.

[@Jackconte]

Came for the planets, stayed for the friendship.

[@scottwilliams895]

We're glad you're here @Jack Conte!

[@kyledewaal3426]

Hank decided to make an educational video about how categories don't exist, and in a beautiful case of form matching content, the video itself raises serious questions about the boundaries of the category "educational video."

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[@QTaylor261]

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[@jessicasnow9007]

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[@anjaoss950]

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[@41-Haiku]

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[@elizabethaman7]

The two Green brothers: “Even back then, I was a big fan of government regulation” “SCIENCE!”

[@miriamrosemary9110]

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[@davycodington1270]

I enjoyed watching John and Hank make a bigger deal of the sunlight problem than it really was.

[@sarahdsparks]

I don’t care about the lighting, I loved this episode. It’s like sitting with a philosophy and a physics major in a treehouse at the tail end of a college weekend party.

[@amesinspace]

Same

[@emzealous]

Wait this is a perfect description

[@jessw1168]

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[@samandom8772]

That's it. That's what pizzamas is.

[@SpiralMagic]

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[@Sientir]

"Language is inherently less rich than reality," is such a poignant line, especially given how much of the Internet (especially social media) is primarily language. That gives me a lot to think about.

[@dragonharris5465]

I love it so much, added it to my book of quotes!

[@vlogbrothers]

Especially given that I was prepared for this conversation and John went in without knowing any of what we were going to talk about!

[@chrissik3102]

Oh my goodness and now you have given everyone who reads your comment extra food for thought re the internet

[@dragonharris5465]

Honestly this is a source of deep frustration to me because it means that there are some things about my experience of the world that I can’t fully communicate to other people! Because language has limits, and even if I get really skilled with words or learn multiple languages, those limits are still there!

[@gillygillenwater4280]

As Sufjan Stevens once said, words are futile devices

[@mephostopheles3752]

One of the funniest reunions in a while. “We did it… Joe” DESTROYED me lmao

[@stepandanek6138]

Who's Joe?

[@McKenzieRiverGirl]

@@stepandanek6138 Joe Biden, President of the USA… That’s my guess.

[@pinoles04]

@@stepandanek6138joe mama (i had to)

[@davetoms1]

"Almost everything that we think of as dichotomous is in fact spectral" ~ John Green, 2022 These two guys are some of my favourite human beings.

[@Anopano3000]

When I heard it I had a sudden urge to plaster it anywhere and everywhere possible

[@adaninurs]

As someone with math degree, I had the same thought once I realized that 1+1 isn't equal 2... it all depends what system. Like for example, in binary system, it equals 10. But at the same time, in order for society to run, we do need to agree on certain things, conscious or unconsciously so we can develop more things. Like John said with language too. This video makes me like Hank and John even more!!!

[@heinet]

Yeah, that one I’m carrying with me.

[@cheshirecat512]

watching john dissociate as hank unravels the world around him is something that can be so personal

[@themaggattack]

"Hank's getting raptured." 🤣 I really love these two. So existential, so down to earth, so funny, so spectral.

[@sarahthomison3295]

That may be my new favorite vlogbrothers quote... "almost everything that we think of as dichotomous is in fact spectral" - John Green. Something finally took first place away from "I follow and cultivate my own curiosity" - Hank Green. So now it is the big 4 with "Everyday we're choosing what to value, what to worship, what to paint" - John Green and "you will always struggle with not feeling productive until you accept that your own joy can be something you produce" - Hank Green. Does anyone else find it funny that we nerdfighters often quote vlogbrothers videos the way John quotes poets. LOL!

[@thewrens_]

Allow me to add 'None of this matters in the grand scheme of things ... but we don't live in the grand scheme of things' - John Green to that list lol

[@jessicar2609]

I love all of these quotes! Thank you for sharing these.

[@GTaichou]

Makes perfect sense. They speak very poetically

[@LeoTheMonts]

"The universe has no obligation to fit into our categories." -Hank

[@meri3580]

“If you’re doing your best, you’re doing your best, and that’s worth celebrating” was my senior quote. John said it in passing on Dear Hank and John, but it really resonated with me, and now it’s one of my favorite quotes.

[@eliannem7811]

"pizza isn't real, but pizzamas is" is strangely but wonderfully comforting

[@vlogbrothers]

Interestingly, Pizzamas really is real in a way Pizza isn't because Pizzamas is understood to be what Pizza actually is...entirely made up.

[@eliannem7811]

@@vlogbrothers okay, Nerdfighteria so who's turning this quote into a T-shirt for next year?

[@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721]

​@@vlogbrothers The most real things are the things that understand exactly how fake they are.

[@zacharylord-rule5368]

"Almost nothing is dichotomous, almost everything is spectral" is a fucking amazing quote.

[@tbey82]

I died when Hank said I'm transcending and died again watching the act of transcending. Then John says, "Hanks been raptured" tears are literally coming out of my eyes 😂

[@textorcall-4001]

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[@Lliamhd]

Would you say you've also been raptured? 🤣

[@bluetoes591]

This is like security camera footage of the outtakes from a Dear Hank and John episode. I love it. 😂

[@TimeLordWereWolf]

Hank: sometimes a planet gets ejected John: *internally panicking*

[@sam-the-moomin]

The fourth/fifth element named after a planet that Hank said to look up is probably Tellurium, named after the Latin word for Earth, Tellus

[@cherewright6939]

Thank you!!!

[@Ekevoo]

I knew it was going to be Earth! I knew it! I just had no idea what it was. :D

[@Shalom64221]

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[@charlottearanea7507]

I was thinking Thorium and this was a "Thor is Zeus is Jupiter" thing, but that makes a lot more sense.

[@Vallam23]

also helium is named after the sun and selenium is named after the moon (Helios and Selene), which according to this very video are technically no different from planets

[@mtnbikesownu]

Can we get some "Nothing is dichotomous, everything is spectral" merch? Quote of the year. Damn you John and your quotability.

[@CL-go2ji]

Except he didn´t say that ... what he did say was less dichotomous.

[@dhayes5143]

Spectral, as in, related to spectres? Is there not a better adjective for spectrums than 'spectral'?

[@SweeneySays]

i love chaotic both-brother videos because of the extreme sibling energy? like so much of this is just...what it's like to have siblings as an adult??? idk this is very nice and wholesome ty ty ty

[@pandoraaaraseth1040]

I don't think it's necessarily sibling energy, sibling energy is not inherent or guaranteed however, friendship... True friendship always creates find sparks like what we witness here. I think that's the appeal, the love and friendship AND damnit these guys are funny. So smart and too funny for their own good. 🤣

[@Cynful033]

It’s the sibling energy for me. It reminds me of my sisters and I.

[@skylerwitherspoon]

John realizing we're seeing him in two dimension was great

[@ladyofcuriousvirtue]

Isn’t it crazy that most of us have never seen them in three dimensions before

[@mikeysrose]

My one request for reunion videos is always that they be longer. This made me so happy.

[@perrywhite3955]

Hello

[@GTaichou]

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[@ellap6828]

I’ve been really depressed the past couple days as someone struggling with OCD and seemingly not getting better even with EXCESSIVE therapy treatments. Seeing y’all goofing around and having fun, knowing John had such a rough time in his 20s…it gave me just a little hope. And put a smile on my face. Thank you.

[@spectacularsceptile3879]

Good luck out there =)

[@svankensen]

Oh yeah, psychiatric stuff gets much better and easier the older you get. Of course, there's still ups and downs, but you go for years and years without anything resembling a crisis. Keep up the fight.

[@izzikat9252]

Plateaus and valleys with health are really rough. And it can be so easy to lose any sense of progress because the way our brains work - ESPECIALLY when we've sincerely habitualized self-assessment. It's like you're the fireman in your own life, going back in again and again to look for those in danger, screaming or not, and it can be impossible to hear any of the survivors you've already rescued because the damn house is still on fire. Convincing yourself to accept moments of respite to recover and to assess who has been rescued is so hard, but everyone has their limits and we just have to find the moments of light we have managed to save. Like these videos and the connections, memories, stories that move us - even when we're still ultimately all damaged and very much in real pain about things. But we tried and we are trying. Also - trying to learn this one myself - to let the screams or shakes of exhaustion at the intensity of it - to let those actually come out and be heard sometimes. Was so used to growing up with the "life is unfair, suck it up" nonsense that it set me so, so far back in understanding connection, community, family...or any kind of hope for meaning. Trying to unlearn that and learn how to share in the mess of life instead of try to "fix" it first. ❤❤❤

[@amelia13131]

"I'm transcending!" and "So listen, Hank's been raptured" feel like good ole vlogbrothers lines and i love it! Also, thanks for making me think about planets and the fact that one of you will have to die second. :( happy pizzamas!

[@someone16234]

totally normal thing to say to someone in their comment section, thanks for contributing so positively to the community

[@wildironprincess]

I'm a teacher, and explaining the flawed way our language categorises things is so difficult for kids. When we were looking at continents, for example, I discussed that different versions have countries and borders and numbers of the continents. We looked at 3 different versions and discussed the pros and cons and a bunch of them really struggled with the idea that these were human constructions.

[@vlogbrothers]

Yes, this is a pretty constant battle with Orin. He will fight over his categories even when they make no sense. He is a five year old though, so it's cool.

[@pagecarlee626]

My elementary school teacher was explaining states of matter to us, Liquid she said could be put into a glass & take the shape of it, but solids couldn't... So I asked "what is a wet washcloth, cause I'm pretty sure it's solid but it will fit in a glass" & I got told to be quiet during the lesson. I was also unequivocally afraid that I'd accidentally cut through an atom when cutting an apple & cause an atom bomb explosion.

[@krank23]

As a fellow teacher (older students though), I wonder if "struggling with ideas" is maybe a good way to just describe… learning.

[@myladycasagrande863]

So is Australia a continent, or just an island with high self-esteem?

[@zettagotbored9341]

I was a STEM teacher for all of like 6 months and my kids asked the best questions. Like why different particles have different charges and why things have different densities and the differences actually are for the different states of matter. This was the first job I got after college where no one has time for these questions and it was incredible

[@brawler839_]

Alright Hank, you've made this complicated. I'm going to go with Venus because the Greeks used to call it Phosphoros (like the element phosphorus), but only gets partial credit because the Greeks thought it was 2 stars instead of a planet and the name Phosphoros was given to the morning observance of Venus. However, if we are breaking the mold here, The sun is sometimes called Helios, which is after Helium. Or if we go with a dwarf planet you could go with Ceres, cause I think it was named after Cerium. Or possibly even our Moon, which the Greeks referred to as Selenian (in reference to Selenium), only because they saw it as another world. In short, the two categories have a lot of overlap and I'm sure there are a ton more even just in our solar system.

[@praetorfenix69]

What bothers me about the "what is a planet" issue is how we instinctively consider things that are "not a planet' as somehow less important. Like I had literally never heard of Ceres growing up, despite being very interested in astronomy as a kid, because people in the 1800s decided that it was "not a planet" and therefore it was somehow not interesting or important enough to teach to kids.

[@vlogbrothers]

Europa, Enceladus, and Ganymede are better than maybe any of the non-earth planets.

[@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721]

That was exactly my mindset when I was a kid learning about dwarf planets. Like, everyone wants Pluto to be a planet, but I think Pluto feels perfectly fine with being a dwarf planet! He gets to hang out with all the other cool dwarf planets, but nobody seems to care about those!

[@marcellastname6862]

@@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 see exactly like Pluto is totally cool but doesn't want to be categorically defined away from his friends who are just like him in most ways

[@brettevill9055]

I think maybe it was the other way around - astronomers decided that the asteroids and then the trans-Neptunian objects were too numerous and unimportant to teach to kids and then, for that reason, redefined “planet” so that they wouldn’t have to.

[@oddsockable]

John's little smile to himself when he makes a good joke is gonna power me through this weekend. People! Being happy! Together!

[@textorcall-4001]

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[@NewYorkBound]

I remember watching the video where John shakes in terror trying to stand on top of a coffee table. Now he’s in a tree! He’s come so far.

[@sylvy16]

This is the most chaotic vlogbrother video to come out in a while. It’s amazing

[@untappedinkwell]

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[@CircleThinker]

Right?! I love the deep intellectual, insightful and brilliant conversation interspersed with chaotic 'trying to make the light better and complaining about the video quality' moments 😂😂

[@billyalarie929]

I need it 10,000% more often.

[@archerelms]

@@CircleThinker Exactly! It's wonderful isn't it? I greatly enjoyed both sides of the video in that respect

[@LynxChan]

This is probably the most chaotic reunion video and yet prefectly encapsulates you both.

[@Omni0404]

You've got Hank teaching and John committing to the bit 😁

[@fraidarahbaran6076]

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[@iriandia]

rewatching this again, and thinking about Hank throwing out a random comment and John thinking about it for years. How many comments or random thoughts do any of us throw out that make a huge impact on someone else, and what would it take for us to recognize our own profundity and not disregard the light that we make?

[@misharumkittum]

This is the first time I've seen you two interact directly and in person, and it is so wholesome. Also, its Tellurium.

[@ThePCguy17]

Somehow I just knew it was going to be named after Earth. But yeah, I would never have got that on my own, probably not even if I tried to look it up.

[@andrinoide8855]

but if we count plutonium cerium also deserves to be on the list

[@CultureStress]

Okay but hear me out.... Krypton

[@1zl541]

@@ThePCguy17 My immediate thoughts were "It's gotta be Earth... Terra... Terrarium! Wait, no; that's not an element"

[@ThePCguy17]

@@CultureStress Okay so that is indeed hilarious...but I'm pretty sure you've got cause and effect backward there.

[@BlankPicketSign]

"Almost everything we think of as dichotomous is, in fact, spectral" Another amazing quote, thank you!

[@bethperforms6191]

And then, where something falls on a spectrum is in itself perspectival-the spectra are spectral!

[@antonl.7056]

I don't usually comment on KZbin, and I imagine this comment will get buried regardless, but I wanted to say thanks to the both of you for bringing me a lot of light and joy. This vlog was exceptionally good, and I've always liked your insights into these complex subjects that we sometimes take for granted.

[@fitz7663]

I enjoy that the boundaries between "shrub" and "tree" are so blurred that many plants can switch between them depending on how they grow (pruning, effects of things around it stunting/directing/allowing growth) and that there is a whole category called "trub".

[@eddierayvanlynch6133]

Trub... 🤔 ...yesss...

[@samandom8772]

Then there's the banana tree which is actually a herb.

[@coreykeays7249]

"Even back then I was a big fan of government regulation" Story checks out. Merry Pizzamas to nerdfighters everywhere!

[@inquisitiveterrestrian]

Merry Pizzamas!

[@MexicanHobbit]

I thought for sure he was gonna say “public health”

[@flame_half]

This is interesting and really true. I think a good example is how we classify vegetables and fruits. It gets extremely convoluted to the point where a pumpkin is technically....a berry? It's all dumb. I have thought about how labeling things is limited in many cases, but we can't just not label things.

[@SavageGreywolf]

The thing about vegetable is that it is a _culinary_ designation, as opposed to fruit, which has a _botanical_ definition, which is why it seems to make no sense as to what the difference, or lack thereof, between fruits and vegetables is.

[@SamanthaRichardsonWP]

Hats off to Hank for figuring out the loophole to giving us a longer video for the last day of Pizzamas 💖🍕

[@fraidarahbaran6076]

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[@emilyschettlers]

If only Hank wore hats :P

[@shieldon530]

All of us Pluto defenders can finally know peace, merry pizzamas guys

[@MaiseNow]

My favorite vlogbrothers together videos are the ones where you're both being ridiculous, like this one. The entire aspect of filming in the treehouse and then immediately having lighting issues and goofing about it is hilarious.

[@justyourlocalrat_]

Ending pizzamas on a longer video was probably one of the best surprises this week, I would personally never object to reunion videos breaking the 4 minute rule without punishment even if they weren't educational

[@cate0843]

Agreed! I scrolled down to the comments to say exactly the same thing and was pleased to see your response already. They've made extended cuts of reunion videos before, I'm sure it would just be easier for everyone (including the audience) to have an exception to the rule for reunions.

[@iamthebock]

Agreed 👍

[@textorcall-4001]

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[@daniellesisson5964]

One of my favorite quotes is from Oscar Wilde’s Portrait of Dorian Grey, “To define is to limit,” and I think it perfectly encapsulates the idea of the human convention of naming things as a tool that both limits and expands our understanding of something. The quote itself is a limiting definition, but implicitly, it also expands the idea of what it means to “define” in a way that broadens the scope of how we communicate. It makes me think about how the language that we use to describe the world around us adapts to better serve us as we change, contracting and expanding around the current bounds of our collective perception.

[@april147]

I think this is going to be my new favorite quote! Thanks!

[@stellviahohenheim]

I prefer Olivia Wilde

[@danielsieker9927]

To define is to limit is, in extension, the literal translation of the origin, latin word "definere", which means setting bounds to smth or limiting smth.

[@AdamRab-pu4ul]

11:59 as someone with a sibling who does this, I truly felt John here.

[@fugithegreat]

Given Nerdfighteria's ability to make things happen, I bet we could locate a complete Pizza John collection in under a day, and have a physical gallery in a week.

[@CL-go2ji]

This might be worth doing, just to prove it can be done. I move this be the project for the next round anniversary.

[@bookworm272]

@@CL-go2ji or a scavenger hunt, like looking for merch hidden throughout the woods, also different prizes like “One hug from John” or “Get Hank to say sausage simultaneously with you” or something, scattered throughout the woods. For every person that shows up, $50 is automatically donated to charity. Each hunt item found also has an amount that’s donated (not by the finder, they get to keep the prize, just finding it sparks the donation) People could bring lunch, make a whole day out of tromping through the woods looking for carpets. Oh, what if you could donate a certain amount for a hint to where certain items are! Another way to make money for charity!

[@Sixica]

@@bookworm272 Okay, just for a second, I'm going to longer on the fact that I read "a hug from John" as a prize, and I got a gut-punch aching longing... almost to the point of tears. I think hugs from John could probably be prescribed as medication.

[@mars_girl]

That close-up was one of the top moments of cinematography 2022 has to offer. We sure did do it, Joe!

[@erikdietrich2678]

I really enjoy when John hums nervously in that certain way, because an idea has crossed his mind that is existentially... challenging. I feel you, John: I go "ehhh..." in those situations.

[@RileyPaige]

Can we just appreciate the fact that John had to be paid $1000 (for charity) to stand on a table in like 2007, but just climbed into a TREEHOUSE?! I am here for this lovely bit of growth! That is fantastic

[@textorcall-4001]

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[@MrEscape314]

They don't tell us the tree house is lower than the table.

[@EmethMatthew]

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[@EcceJack]

Honestly, until Hank said "this was a trick" (video is educational to allow for it to be longer) I was genuinely thinking to myself "Wow, what a wealth of information and interaction in under 4 minutes! I didn't realise so much can be said in that time!!" because it *felt* like no time at all had passed! 😄

[@rubag223]

same experience! i was like wow i really enjoyed that...14mins later haha

[@sexyscientist]

😂

[@glockbell]

I didn't notice until I started reading comments.

[@trentseymore7385]

What in the world. The lighting, the chaos, so many metaphysical realizations interspersed with nonsense. This is certainly the most chaotic disjointed mess of a video I have ever enjoyed. So amazing... apparently nothing exists. Well done.

[@gussnarp]

At 3:38, John is clearly having an idea. This Pizza John Gallery thing might happen... or some unexpected variation on the concept.

[@Shalom64221]

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[@throrthegreat6482]

This video is the absolute peak of chaotic, educational, and insightful that that completely encompasses what vlogbrothers and pizzamas is. Basically if i ever need to tell someone what vlogbros is. This is the video.

[@BoffoCaveman]

I know it's seven months old, but "Almost everything that we think of as dichotomous is, in fact, spectral. " is a wonderful explanation of my world-view.

[@katetoolate234]

Thank you for making the "long ass" video where you two chatted in a tree. I really appreciated having a longer than normal Vlogbrothers video that's mostly just these two brothers talking; It's always great to see. 😄

[@raetona]

The chaotic educational yet profound and loving energy here is exactly the vibe I live for. I'm so thankful you continue to share your thoughts with us. Happy Pizzamas!

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[@verity3616]

When they were talking about a planet ejected from the solar system and having to make its own light. There it is. That's how one of them can finally make use of the phrase, "More Light than Heat!" Also, what an astoundingly beautiful video. As others said, this is without question one of their best. Lovely through and through.

[@Paint_The_Future]

The first thing Hank defines about planets is that "it has to have formed itself into a sphere" but I think if our local Neptune was a giant cylinder all this time instead of a sphere, toppling head-over-heels around the Sun and it never shaped itself into a sphere somehow, I would still call that a planet. Cylinder planet.

[@MarkThePage]

We should all strive to be this accepting when a planet finally gains the confidence to live its true geometrical shape.

[@itisdevonly]

It's a function of size. Any body massive enough will be formed into a sphere due to gravity. It's only non-spherical if it's too small. The rule basically creates a lower bound for size of a planet. The upper bound is "massive enough to start fusion reactions and therefore be a star."

[@GuanoLad]

See the Asteroid Belt for existing examples.

[@Kaiasky]

The issue is if you put a neptune sized cylinder in space, it's own gravity will smush it down into a sphere. BUT, centripetal force can counter that, giving us the dwarf planet Haumea, which looks like a giant space egg.

[@rjung_ch]

@@itisdevonly exactly right, science and physics.

[@michaelflattery2298]

I was like "AHA, they hid the secret element answer in the video!" because Phosphorus was the name for Venus in its appearance as the Morning Star... but Tellurium is literally named after earth... Hank! You gotta watch your enumeration!

[@BartonChittenden]

And here, I thought it was Terrarium.

[@_andrewvia]

Some say Mercury is a gas giant that came in too close and got its atmosphere blown away, so all that's left is the little rocky core.

[@A.Filthy.Casual]

Pizza John staring up at you through foliage NEEDS to be a design for next pizzamas

[@perrywhite3955]

Hello

[@roftherealm3418]

I'm also in favor of leaving it there in the woods

[@elenamuis7287]

John's face when Hank says reality doesn't exist is everything 😂

[@textorcall-4001]

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[@Ford_prefect_42]

Definitely misheard "elements" as "elephants" and I was so excited to learn about these elephants with awesome names. I'm sad now

[@dottieanderson267]

They really took advantage of the fact that educational videos can be over 4 minutes long and I love that so much! This was a great vidro

[@tothm129]

Can you imagine If a planet that had no star, was able to have life by geothermal energy, and was then able to evolve life that was able to produce light of its own. Like there are so many ways that this is unlikely but at the same time there is so many ways that this is beautiful

[@bramvanduijn8086]

Do you mean visible light or just radiation in general? Visible light is unlikely, but its a big universe. I don't think there is a viable place without any kind of radiation.

[@tothm129]

@@bramvanduijn8086 verry good point. I believe everything emits infrared via heat. and what we define as visible is based on the light that comes to our planet.

[@juliaxchung]

Watching this after Hank's news hits different...looking back to previous moments of joy reminds me that the light-soaked days are coming (the bad days are coming too, but they're never forever)

[@notaraven]

"this would be the worst way to go" "Yeah because we would both die" "At least we wouldn't have to decide what to do if one of us dies" Damn...

[@AlexisKende108]

Pizzamas always goes by so fast. It’s so bittersweet!

[@vlogbrothers]

Right???

[@behinddestiny]

At one point, maybe around 10 minutes in, both Hank and John were in shadow and the only thing my eye caught was the beautifully lit, almost glowing, Pizza John rug. And it felt like a moment.

[@Durmomo0]

I thought spending valentines day alone was a little rough but imagine your entire solar system just rejects you out into space smh

[@LevelUpYourFandom]

this was a masterpiece. pure and simple joy of a video and by far the best way to cap off Pizzamas. 11/10 will watch again

[@ApequH]

Already did

[@aussietom85]

I enjoyed this episode of Dear Hank and John

[@untappedinkwell]

same!

[@dallinshumway7188]

I see what you did there 😂

[@anyalazor7978]

11:32 I heard it as 'There are 3 planets that have elephants names after them' and was so confused. Because it and the discussion that followed implied that there are at least 3 famous elephants named after planets that I'm supposed to know about. Life didn't prepare me for celebrity elephants.

[@mcolville]

I feel like John's discovery that all (nearly all) life requires the Sun and it's the one thing we can't look directly at, is how you get the Amarna Heresy.

[@mcolville]

"Creating our own light is beautiful!" Ahh, Prometheus.

[@francislally6066]

Crossover I didn't know I wanted!

[@CL-go2ji]

Okay, now I have to look up "Amarna Heresy" in Wikipedia and am going to be late. Your fault. Edit: ???

[@kendelmurrant4279]

"Language is inherently less rich than reality." That's how I feel anytime I watch a Kurzgesagt video. They help me catch a glimpse of all that is out there but with the simultaneous awareness of how little of a grasp the collective We have on what's out there. It's so exciting and wonder-inducing (if I'm in a good mood - in a bad mood, it's scary). And then from there, it's so interesting to go on the journey of asking how did We come to know what we think we know so far?

[@jlhitz35]

This video, man... The fact that it goes from "I'm TRANSCENDING!" to "Almost everything that we think of as dichotomous is, in fact, spectral." in the space of 5 minutes is just *chef's kiss*. I haven't come close to watching all the vlogbrothers videos, but this may be my favorite video on KZbin.

[@scvannost]

Cerium! After Ceres, which is also no longer a planet like Pluto, just older so people have forgotten

[@fartherout.1046]

oh that might be it, i thought it was tellerium after the earth

[@Matthew-Perelman]

Pleasantly surprised that this was 14 minutes long and that you all keep filming peaceful videos made even more peaceful by being outside!

[@erty8305]

“I’d argue that life is a true category.” I raise you the issue of viruses

[@kristidavidson8945]

Mind you I’m only smart enough to barely hang on here, but… How is a virus NOT life? (Or maybe I’m misunderstanding the discussion)

[@lucasthemycologist]

@@kristidavidson8945 Viruses are not considered "living organisms" because they can't reproduce on their own or survive outside a cell. Basically, the host cell is living and the virus is just hijacking its metabolism, so it's only alive while it's inside the cell. It's less controversial to call viruses biological entities instead of living organisms. Viruses reproduce virtually the same way as plasmids, which are circular strands of DNA that can self-replicate and are also not considered living organisms. Granted, there are bacteria that live inside viruses which would also not qualify as living, except for the fact that they have a cell membrane encasing the DNA instead of a protein capsule. It all depends on your definition of life.

[@verity3616]

@@lucasthemycologist Your explanation made me so happy. Well done!

[@michaeletzkorn]

@@lucasthemycologist but there are plenty of examples of living organisms that hijack the metabolism of hosts and are unable to live on their own

[@TheRavenfish9]

This video is gloriously unhinged and I loved every second of it. Also, the pizza john peering out from amongst the shrubs is perfection. Please hide it somewhere in Indy's woods to freak the bajeezus out of people as they pass.

[@gallow_walker]

"Almost everything we think of as dichotomous is in fact spectral." Goddamn John, just casually throwing out bangers this video.

[@Anopano3000]

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[@cwahlb1]

“theres a difference between the way we describe things and the way they are. language is inherently less rich than reality.” wow i love that description so much.

[@MrRad]

Hank: there's 4 elements named after planets. John: Mercury Hank: ok there's 5 Elite

[@KetieSaner]

What is the last one, though?

[@s0659651]

@@KetieSaner I think it’s Cerium for Ceres the dwarf planet.

[@jamesmule]

Tellurium. Named after Tellus, Latin for Earth, found in Tellus Mater, Mother Earth, the Roman equivalent of the Greek earth goddess Gaia. I hate that I didn't quite figure this out by myself, but I was looking for elements looking similar to Greek and Latin equivalents of Jupiter, Saturn, Mercury, Mars and Venus. I did think of Gaia, too, I just didn't google the Latin equivalent for it before googling "elements named after planets".

[@jamesmule]

I don't think he meant Cerium because Ceres isn't a non-dwarf planet and because it's not that tricky. In addition to Cerium, there's also Helium (after Helios, Greek for Sun), Palladium (after Pallas) and Selenium (Greek name for the Moon).

[@loganpontious4766]

@@jamesmule i believe Ceres and Pallas (along with Pluto) were considered planets when they were named, so i think they should count. Other interesting contenders that don't actually fit, titanium, Europium, Thorium(if thor=jupiter), vanadium(if vanadis=freyja=venus).

[@lindsay3917]

I love the commitment to the bit of teaching John about planets so the video can be 14 minutes long

[@willowarkan2263]

9:46 Civilization 4 immortalized him as a ranking, it's not a flattering reference, but it's something.