Vocal production for Billie Eilish by Finneas

[@mixwiththemasters]

Full video available exclusively on mwtm.org/f-therefore-i-am-vocals

[@noveria21beats90]

♥

[@FoodNerds]

What software does he use?

[@LJ-ie8wj]

Logic pro X ​@@FoodNerds

[@attikrecords--]

He's gotta come out with a reverb plug-in called Finneas and Verb

[@arohisengupta2248]

genius

[@COSCOSBEATS]

Yo

[@dajapa]

Love it!

[@FakingANerve]

* *starts a slow clap* *

[@danielboulton922]

I hope you get royalties for this comment.

[@MurphyKargesBass]

I could watch anything with Finneas. No ego at all. Just honest and simple and humble

[@ananyasahay]

YESS

[@xTechnoWOW]

Agreed!

[@aaazzure]

Agreed

[@akagerhard]

there is no human being without ego.

[@akos5063]

@@akagerhard you know what they mean

[@sjaakverkade]

Finneas is very good, but I think he should give Ferb more credits

[@wadball]

i am booing and clapping simultaneously

[@PstaaaarKrok1]

HAHAHHAAHHA

[@matheuscastello6554]

you mean pherb? hahahaha

[@JakeAdkinsOfficial]

Ferb was always the quiet one anyway

[@clownrry9043]

💀💀

[@g_zaya]

Billie: sneezes* Finneas: I thought it was cool so I just threw it in the recording

[@coldpillowsareunderrated]

LMAOO bruh ong

[@Oatmilllk]

Literally ahaha and it works

[@luckyblade4013]

😂😂

[@magicspiral3323]

Nothing wrong with that! 😂

[@harpy2602]

honestly thats part of why i like Finneas' production/billie's music/ lots of weird little tidbits/samples that you dont hear in every other song that exists. It's what made Bury a Friend stand out when I first heard it even though I'm not a huge pop fan

[@_sunchildd]

i looooove when he breaks down billie’s songs. whenever i listen to them after he does this.. i pick up on the tinyyyy background things. it’s dope af.

[@mackenziezara8168]

Me too! Like in bury a friend he talked about that drill sound Billie recorded at the orthodontist and now every time I listen to that song I hear it

[@evelynbell4971]

@@mackenziezara8168 And the Australian crosswalks in bad guy

[@kyju7093]

dude when youre a producer this is just how you listen to ALL music lmao i cant help but visualize what the session looks like or how someone did something whenever i listen to music now. it becomes a curse because im not even listening to music for the music anymore im listening to try to figure out how they did something 😭😭

[@FakingANerve]

@@kyju7093 it'll never be the same ever again (in the best way) 🙂

[@pedrosilvaproductions]

@@kyju7093 That's what happens when you're a musician. You stop "enjoying" the music, you'll just hear it in a different way

[@emmetkowler]

"And then Billie had a different idea and it was way better anyway" is about all you need to know about how to be a good producer

[@jeevesmakingnoise]

💯

[@parker.collective]

he’s so selfless.

[@zionherbert]

@@parker.collective exactly that’s I wanted to comment

[@parker.collective]

@@zionherbert love him

[@sweettlover123]

EXACTLY.

[@thechannelitrollwith1645]

Just getting into her music, but it's pretty obvious that a huge portion of the sound is his. Sibling melding their creativity can create some really cool stuff and as a duo they hit gold. Love this

[@oeunouch]

I think there are the Ying and Yang of each other. One wouldn't be complete with out the other!

[@jaredmarshall9439]

@@oeunouch like the Lanisters!

[@naustinfipecto6104]

They say themselves that their sound is 50/50.

[@scopeworth7781]

Finneas solo music is a lot more bland and nondescript to me, so I think Billie must be a big creative and conceptual voice, while finneas has more musical knowledge and ability.

[@alexxxO_O]

@@scopeworth7781 Yup. He is the producer of some of her songs, after all. Really great duo.

[@LuMartinelli]

I hope everyone here appreciate how incredibly invaluable is to have one of today's top producers to open up the session of such a succesful hit and just show it all to us. Back in the day aspiring producers would kill and could only dream to have access to information like this. Put it to good use! Is a good time to be producin'.

[@giorgiadiliello7440]

That’s what I was thinking about !!!!! This is gold

[@kenjidrake7809]

All thanks to the pandemic haha. These videos were around before but even more producers are now streaming since the pandemic started on how they make their tracks like disclosure for example

[@pandoratypography]

Dude the notes I was taking on everything in this logic file.....

[@kickinitwithjess]

I know! I was thinking about this too. The merge of celebrity culture with social media is so intertwined now and so publically open, you get access to people's art so much more readily than years before. I remember youtube before all this and some people may look down upon social media but I find it so exciting the possibilities that are opening up for musicians looking for exposure and ways to improve their craft.

[@LuMartinelli]

@@kickinitwithjess i consider it the bright side of social media. While there is much to critizice it for, these kind of things represent gigantic steps forward on a discipline. Imagine Phil Spector opening up some Beatles sessions, and that information being inmediately available for kids worldwide months after the release of Let It Be. This is unheard of until the present and (Hopefully) it could represent a massive amount of quality music in upcoming years. All is not lost in today's world!

[@rexo6699]

Title: Vocal production Finneas: Continues to explain the entire instrumental. *We liked that*

[@loh-gain701]

hahahah true

[@carl_anderson9315]

It's surprising how open-doors he and Billie are about their recording secrets. There wa a time when some producers would kill you if you dared to leak their recordign sessions. Of course, knowing the ingredients of one dish doesn't make you a chef.

[@NR-gp2il]

Cuz artists today vlog and no one expect the weekend and few other major acts are secretive. Studio session vlogs are common today. It’s not easy to become a producer so you can’t just copy it

[@GoldenFez]

@@NR-gp2il I like how secretive the weeknd is, it adds to his artistry

[@itscxo]

This guy is underrated cmon, he needs more credit!

[@jalensera]

He’s got 5 Grammys for his work already. I think he’s perfectly rated.

[@kaitheguy6703]

Uh he has been awarded many various awards for his work, i dont think hes that underrated

[@Lisaleetv]

Exactly. Got the grams

[@riosmicaela7794]

@@jalensera yeah but i think he is talking about his career not producer of Billie

[@jalensera]

@@riosmicaela7794 his career as a producer. Because that’s what this video is about lol. Fans want him to have a solo career as big as billies. That just won’t happen.

[@kickinitwithjess]

Finneas just gives off this vibe that he's just your average guy who happens to work in audio production (obviously so talented at what he does)

[@DixieWreck69]

5:25 “and then we added this bass sweep” my phone speaker:

[@carolynchen317]

thankful for this comment bc I got so confused

[@ludwig.mp3]

@@carolynchen317 The frequencies are too low for a mobile device to pick up on

[@Aurem15]

@@ludwig.mp3 Mine plays it tho

[@carolinepatras4556]

If I listen closely I can hear it

[@mrjosuke87]

It literally sounds like a fart

[@marzadky4934]

I actually like how many times you say, "We..........." that says a lot about both your creativity and relationship. Its amazing.

[@foolishdonut]

2:58 woah even without the music, that sounds so good. I love harmonies

[@kalangwakashoka5601]

Me too!!!

[@Donelle]

More of finneas pls

[@tristanstaffordmusic8311]

he has a full masterclass on his for I think $40

[@childofthelivinggod.]

@@tristanstaffordmusic8311 on what and where?

[@bexisoficial]

YS PLS

[@jujasname]

I want one with Ferb

[@ChrisPunsalanTV]

What a crazy time we're living in. It's amazing how we get to see what's going on under the hood in such great detail.

[@Niaemma]

I never understand what he’s talking about but it’s so interesting to see him breakdown how he makes the songs. Everytime he’s just like we thought of this and I’m like how???

[@GHOSTEEL]

When it’s all you do, it’s what you do baby!!

[@AidanDillon789]

It’s pretty crazy how simple his songs seem but then you start peeling the layers back and they’re endlessssss.

[@Yoless1971]

It's really impressive to see a sister and brother who revolute the music industry by ignoring them all! Thank you for giving an old man so much hope for the future. Best productions for the last 20 years!

[@JustinNathanielAdams]

Yeahhh, there's no way I wasn't going to click on this.

[@70mjc]

So....

[@WaterRiver777]

Yo mama

[@lexijade1317]

@@70mjc wdym?

[@syntropiqueTV]

100%

[@jawzi3640]

literally

[@GrungeIsN0tDead]

I think Billie is a real talented singer and can really sing, that's why she doesn't really need a lot of editing on her vocal track.

[@ulasonal]

yep, also their rule. "no pitch correction"

[@ulasonal]

@@molochz may I ask which songs of hers you find boring

[@isasecret]

@@ulasonal the majority except of lovely

[@ulasonal]

@@isasecret it's ok if you don't like the songs but you know that's a pop song with the most boring and basic chord progression right? you either haven't heard enough of her songs or just don't know very much about music if you think that's her "not boring" song.

[@isasecret]

@@ulasonal I know few things about music since i produce for quite a while I meant vocal wise she has catchy melodies but nothing that hadn't been heard before as the other people commented most of her songs are monotonous dead whispery quiet slightly melodic like she has taken multiple xanax and recorded the songs it sounds like she doesnt even try to sing while in lovely she certainly sang very well imo it wasnt boring or anything like that hence the success of it

[@Knownwellenough]

How does that vocal sound so good with just a high pass and a single stock compressor wtf

[@jebrewmusic5919]

Neuman TLM

[@brendoncuenca104]

yeahh it’s a very nice mic, and the preamp they used is probably very nice as well. curious what they used

[@jokkearnt]

Really good mic technique and voice control is probably a big part of it too

[@rez9386]

Mic positioning and acoustics.. I know people mentioned specific mics or premaps and all. Not saying those won't help but you can even get away with a USB mic now a days.

[@Ryno6465]

With a vocalist as good as Billie you really don't need much.

[@RadiumRecordsHollywood]

Loved this series! We go hard with Logic Pro, even mix and master in Logic! Love the way Finneas goes in on production in Logic... We're obsessed!

[@JLummin]

if anyone is asking, Program or in Audio terms DAW (Digital Audio Workstation) is Logic which is an Apple program and simply is the bigger brother to Garageband. In the Audio industry Pro-Tools is the most complex and main standard but Logic holds its own with what it has and can do. Obiviously many other programs out there with different preferences for everyone like rap, trap or hip hop on FL Studio, EDM on Ableton, Cubase, Presonus Studio One slowly getting popular. I'm a Logic user as well and glad its one of the simpliest being a garageband upgrade but has what you need and one of my favorite producers Kygo is on Logic

[@naomm8832]

finneas is a fucking genius and i’m soo excited to see how his own music and billie’s music evolves in the future

[@fionncorrigan4876]

Gotta love how logic changed one of the track names, which is supposed to be "analog strings" or something to "anal rings". Classy

[@tomjuno8886]

Best comment I’ve seen in a long time

[@iliaslef]

3:39 lmaooo just saw that

[@marinatessmer1116]

OMG I wouldn't have noticed thanks thanks so much 🤣🤣🤣🤣❤️

[@ForminaSage402]

lol I was gonna comment on this too

[@paulecheagaray665]

lmao i noticed it too and i was trying to figure out what it stood for

[@tiscover]

Can't stop watching his hair

[@saintg1121]

Gay

[@itsjello8815]

Gay

[@RyanlovesTh]

Smooth

[@mysigt_]

@@saintg1121 🏳️‍🌈

[@camilopelaez5498]

SAMEEE

[@MariaGoJa]

Insane producer. The rawness and fearlessness is so inspiring. I love that they are just double recording the backing vocals in the classic way and hard pan them, instead of using a fancy plugin doing the job. Oh and thanks reminding me of Trilian.

[@seagers_studio]

Great to hear Billie's vocal takes in acapella, very revealing and beautiful to listen to. Thank you for sharing Finneas!

[@yandi6867]

he looks like a british bussiness man who became an artist and hasnt had a shower since las year, i love that

[@izzy4812]

The accuracy 😂😂

[@nextl3v3l99]

Some people are clean and smell nice but just don’t comb their hair in the morning or do their makeup/shave. Looking natural doesn’t = to uncleanliness

[@yandi6867]

@@nextl3v3l99 yas ik! and i love him

[@MikeJones-oe3do]

A British business man who’s quarantined for the past year and half

[@yandi6867]

@@MikeJones-oe3do lmaooo

[@inkmask1072]

I can’t get enough watching the magic behind their music, how can a brother and sister duo be so talented lol they’re unstoppable

[@arothmanmusic]

I don’t know who this William Eyelash fellow is, but his hair is fantastic.

[@arothmanmusic]

@@idk-bt2wt #thatsthejoke

[@cloudy_cremx8474]

Lmaoooo

[@egjowogopwro]

I truly hope you never stop making these videos with Finneas, both he and Billie are so incredibly talented it feels almost illegal to see how they produce their masterpieces. I love it and it gives even more meaning to each song when you get to see what they went through to make it. THANK YOU!

[@mastermarui8714]

I think everyone is underestimating the amount of talent Finneas got and how much work he puts into his and Billie's music so give this man some respect ❤️

[@CrankyUnicorn]

It's so fascinating to watch an artist in his element, just creating and talking about the process. I am obsessed with the two of them and the synergy they have

[@GuillaumeLortie]

Finneas and Billie is the perfect pair of modern producers. maybe an episode when Billie talk more about her production vision ?

[@lvsmagic]

"...which was really appealing to me so I just threw it into the recording". It is so incredible to watch him go through the process. Just these incredibly innocuous things that they so effortlessly put together. It's like watching a world class athlete making something look easy that you think, 'yeah, I could do that' which, of course, you cannot just 'do that' lol

[@judson8441]

I can

[@stantwitter1016]

I could literally sit 24 hours just to listen finneas explaining billie’s production

[@DodaGarcia]

I think it's the sweetest thing how even he fangirls over Billie

[@rinmorie7185]

I love how is so chill when he talks and open.. He literally is the best

[@My123Tutorials]

It's super interesting to see how many layers and components are mixed together to get this song. I have no clue on how to make music but I really get inspirierend for my own work by watching people in their very own profession. So thanks for this great insight.

[@ahliaspobre]

all the things you can’t hear when everything is out together but it makes the song better

[@JoseLuisGarcia1234]

He is very humble and such an inspiration for me as a producer. I like the 'simplicity' of this arrangement, not many elements but working together perfectly.

[@shyiehead89]

i love how he knows exactly which part was recorded on which day... amazing

[@jrhager84]

Finneas is a real one. Billie is amazing too. I'm glad they're humble and they play off of each other. I really do feel that each of them is elevated by the other. Good stuff.

[@VirtuallyCracked]

i need that "go to billie vocal" template so bad

[@davidengquist5158]

He’d said before that he just puts a Channel EQ and a compressor on it

[@meriwoo7382]

but you'll also need an expensive mic setup to sing that quiet and turn up the gain so high without noise

[@VirtuallyCracked]

@@meriwoo7382 lol youre prolly right but still. Its probably just some comps and eq

[@blakeb8139]

Or probably just do your own thing and make it cool, instead of doing a mediocre version of what they already did.

[@blakeb8139]

@@meriwoo7382 There are a lot of affordable mics with low self noise. I believe they did that entire first album with a tlm103, which is fairly expensive but not compared to the one they use here, but you could still get a fairly decent mic in the 500 range and pull it off, but she’s probably also singing fairly close to the mic, so you probably wouldn’t even have to turn it up that loud. I commented on here before I actually watched the video and saw he said they did use a 103 on this specific song. I’m an idiot lol

[@VOByRobbins]

Finneas, you are brilliant, so simple, yet what comes out of your creative process is Magic, love your Tove Lo work--- just awesome watching this! I do voiceovers not music, but your process is inspiring! thanks for sharing your work and not being closed off in discussing your process.

[@NatalieHolmes]

find these so inspiring: not dependent on fancy plug ins and not regurgitating the same pop production as everywhere else. + a genuinely real, nice guy, this is what we need to stay inspired as artists!

[@RemAtmos]

I love that he mentions the other line having better internal rhyme. Noticing little subtleties that make some lines work better.

[@mitchgarcia4455]

love watching finneas and billie's production thoughts explained

[@SONRIE.Official]

Does anyone know what brand of static electricity Finneas is using on his hair? Would love to get some similar for myself! 😬

[@levipurvis]

I believe it’s the static electricity from his pure musical creativity

[@annavu2676]

this comment made me spit laugh thank you 🤣🤣

[@godardthspielwells]

It’s called Super Saiyan 🌟

[@genephillips4809]

So glad to see such a young music producer on MWTM. Truly motivating and inspiring! Rock on Finneas.

[@syntropiqueTV]

Yeah, I think they know that there is a such a larger producer / wanna-be producer crowd vs. folks that only want to mix / engineer.

[@elifduru7434]

he is so good at explaining what he does which shows how much he is into it and surrounds himself with it. so cool to see

[@aikhii]

Finneas is so talented, I CANNOT. The way he produces song is always so smart, it’s always sooo complete, he is AMAZING. And he still always listens what Billie says, he’s humble, he lets his sister do whatever she wants (or almost ig 😂), and the end result is always a freaking masterpiece.

[@jackson-gillies]

God she sings such brilliant parts.

[@GavinMorris1]

This guy is inspiring. Great to see people doing it for themselves.

[@J1Z06]

So cool to see it done on Logic.. not these mixing engineers that spend hours putting everything under the microscope. I’ll never make any $ with music, but I’m obsessed with listening, creating, trying to mix etc. Its beyond addictive.

[@Dajtheartistt]

hey don’t say you’ll never make money, if you keep working at it you def could. Even through something like fiver if you offered cheap mixes, production, stuff like that you could make some money and get better at whatever your doing too! Best of luck to you.

[@J1Z06]

@@Dajtheartistt thanks for your kind words. it's been disappointing more than being rewarding. i walked away from music last year when engineer #5 didn't get it either. getting it to sound how it plays in my head is impossible. $30k of very hard earned dollars has been spent between two cd's. I gave up on the second one. It's exhausting..like a dog chasing its tail. Even if I had good mixes, I wouldn't know where to start to try to make $

[@RoodyCall]

@@J1Z06 try to do the engineering yourself or as get as good as you can, that might help with getting the sound that you want. Don’t get discouraged there’s lows and highs in this business

[@Marchuevoreal]

@@J1Z06 come back bro

[@J1Z06]

@@RoodyCall I tried to do it Myself. NG. Ran out of headroom. My goal is to have EVERYTHING audible. There are mixes out there I love. So it can be done. It’s simply an arm and a leg for Me and it’s like walking barefooted uphill on broken glass. Truly.

[@cydarian]

He's such a musical genius. I hope to work with him one day.

[@ZeroMusicArt]

It amazes me how many layers of sound are there in each song they’ve made.

[@domiwagner2082]

I keep giggling at 3:41 track three from the top... I can't unsee it...

[@anamartinez7006]

i don’t see it

[@lowreenz5071]

Is that the sabrina clip??

[@DebF124]

Finneas is probably my current favorite pop music producer. Focuses on the music to groove while being unique and doesn’t try to be extra.

[@danalajeunesse]

They are such an amazingly talented team. Mind blowing talent. Both of them.

[@svenlorenz9429]

Ah...No! There are so much more talented musicians in the world, they are not grown up in a rich family with art and actors background. and they not got the luck with age of 13 of an A&R manager who breed them to that what they are today. it is not only talent, it is also a lot of luck and meeting the right people at the right place and the right time.

[@rubymardall6481]

@@svenlorenz9429 they didn’t grow up wealthy. They were homeschooled, which gave them a lot of time to make music, and then when Billie had to stop dancing she started releasing music, and then when it started doing well she got a manager and started A&R sessions etc etc. Don’t try and take any credit away from them, they are undeniable talents.

[@bonbon4104]

He's so freaking cool, genius, grounded, and talented.

[@NiniRockX]

I think both have changed the music world. Both inspire me on a completely different level!

[@LaminarSound]

This guy woke up 5 minutes before shooting this vid. Lol

[@roadchord]

it’s called bedroom production for a reason 😂

[@LaminarSound]

@@roadchord true talk!

[@p.m-audio]

hahahaha

[@joshuabrunetta4656]

He never went to bed

[@zammymaeindog4459]

True😂😂🤦🏻‍♀️

[@blindmandan]

I love when Phineas breaks down everything and talks about it I am blind so I obviously can’t see the picture that’s going on the video should say but down his voice and the way he talks about music is the way I feel inside about music and now that I can’t do what he does because of my visual impairment I love how he explains everything and I just sit here in amazement at how things come to him and Billy are used dictation so apologies for any typos when he talks about music like this and breaks down everything and goes through all the beats in the creation of the sounds of the track it is like porn to a blind man!

[@seez6963]

I'm curious- how did u write it?

[@seez6963]

Oh- I just realized they can't read my comment ooohh-

[@aneekarehan]

@@seez6963 they can read it, theres speech to text keyboard (not blind but i have it on mine) plus u can have ur phine ro read out stuff for u.

[@seez6963]

@@aneekarehan omg ty for educating me I never knew about this thing. 😃😮

[@blindmandan]

@@seez6963 hey there sorry for the delayed response I’m still trying to get used to commenting back on KZbin videos. Being a blind person I have an iPhone that allows me to dictate everything and then my phone reads it back to me including surfing the Internet anything you can do on your phone my iPhone reads everything including what’s on the screen instead of just tapping things I have to double tap on things to activate it one touch on something on my phone reads it out he double tap activates what I’m trying to do. So for me to respond I dictate everything and my phone reads out your reply to me. Thank you for asking I do appreciate it. And yes I can answer back. LOL

[@bella-gf1jw]

i see things like this & totally forget his age & billie’s age (not that age is necessarily a determinant for talent or level of mastery at something but you know)

[@Blarg]

Thank you Finneas for sharing that. It will help me and I believe many other musicians with mixing!

[@stevehansen4755]

Major vocal stacking. Also, he has very good taste in sound selection for his basses and beats. Well done. Also, seems like a humble guy.

[@lucaostellari1641]

I need a Billie acoustic harmonised song

[@naraira__1397]

I want them to interview him for his song "Where the Poison is" it's such an interesting song.

[@biindiecat2878]

I'm so impressed and amaze by Billie and Finneas truly. No one can convince that they're not talented.

[@23Bandz_]

No ones trying to persuade ya 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@MW-jv2qi]

i love how the construction of the songs with the stop really represents the writing process they had as he explained, they stopped and came back to the song weeks, months later. clever

[@JEWELLXP]

I love seeing that it took him some time to finish this. “And that’s as far as we got that day.” is something I need to be more comfortable saying.

[@emalaga111]

So talented. He's so down to earth. So cool too. Respect ✧

[@himangshudeka10]

Finneas has inspired so many of us producers, and sort of printed a statement in our heads that you can make great songs from your bedroom. That's a thought inducing thought.

[@sophiam.5197]

as someone who is literally dreaming of producing my own music this is SO. EXCITING.

[@fedorvoronovcomposer]

What amazes me is how different each and every producer is

[@GarageBen]

Thank you! The availability of amazing first-hand stuff like this really is a blessing of our day... Still, that cool stuff just wouldn't be there without people sharing it. So thanks again!!

[@leeroyfree6029]

Her harmonies are incredible

[@TheSpendog]

This episode helps a lot and is pretty informative, thanks again for these!

[@motm6280]

We want more of Finneas pleeaasseeee 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@jane1500]

I love watching how Finneas works, the man's such an artist in his approach to studio work ❤

[@cbyrd2010]

This is very helpful for getting better at track production and editing, especially with respct to vocals and layering harmonies. I also like how he goes into the creative thought process rather than pure technical aspects and shows how he blends the two in real-time as he's thinking and their recording. Definitely helped me get better, thanks Finneas!

[@Ryno6465]

Looking at how other people name their tracks can be really interesting "crappy tom" really make me laugh

[@PathPMusic]

lmao I was thinking about that too, but I missed "crappy tom" I'll have to look back at the video again LOL!!! What I particularly noticed about this was "instr8 and things like that and i was like "oh ok, so it's not always about being so perfect in the naming of the regions" lol. But of course it depends on the person.

[@niamhluby3116]

2:59 is angelic

[@1ballinboyz]

Pretty awesome we can see this and his process.

[@chrisliddiard725]

< shakes head > wow. super cool to share, Thanks!

[@harshitabharadwaj2551]

Bizzare how these things get unnoticed and THAT'S what a good composer or musician is!

[@jeevesmakingnoise]

Love the subtlety of everything. Finneas is one of the best rn

[@YuhhJack]

What a legendary producer. I would love to work with him in the future if I ever got the chance, but I know that may seem unrealistic at this point 💯💯🤝

[@lanceflair9864]

I wished you'd explain some of your vocal effect chain. And how you fit so much vocal harmony into the mix

[@oeunouch]

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. It's all look so simplified. Unless Billie is Just really vocally gifted

[@doms_fookin_memes1517]

@@oeunouch she is vocally gifted tho, and that's kinda what it comes down to

[@albertomora216]

Funny story, a couple months ago I was watching this video when I had a heart failure, and I couldn’t find this video ever since, but now that I’ve found it wanted to tell the story, I’m pretty much alive and got heart surgery, so I can watch the video without any worries

[@underratedunity1528]

I really love him and Billy as people on top of of course as artists/producers

[@oeunouch]

Imagine sitting in at one of their session!

[@whitesky38]

Gotta love that digital clipping.

[@theholographicempire2550]

First: I'm a fan of their work, not because I "listen" to it for fun, but because I appreciate the production value. Not even a fan of the genre, per se. I've spent much more time studying Finneas' work, then listening to any of their albums or singles. Second: If you think there's not a lot of editing on her vocal tracks, you're nuts. They're doing 100 takes (maybe more in some cases) for 20 seconds of vocals. The performances are spliced together from those multiple takes to create a performance that never existed. A performance that is the MOST on pitch, and the MOST in time that has that "something." I'm sure they'll accidentally stumble onto stuff all the time, and chase it. Some transient, a laugh, etc, etc. That's a LOT of editing, tracking, trial and error, etc. This avoids autotune and makes for a more natural performance, but is INSANELY time consuming. Given the sparsity of the instrumentals, and frequently solo'd vocals... that's kind of required of the style, since you'd hear autotune in the conditions (at least a trained ear would). So please, stop saying her vocals are not edited. You devalue Finneas in saying so. Additionally, Google Little Alter Boy. That's a staple for this team. ALL THAT SAID: She IS talented, that's not up for debate. But you need to recognize part of that talent is having the patience to sit there and do 100 takes for 20 seconds followed by revisiting all those takes. Nuts! Trust me when I say, it would be a nightmare to do that with anyone who couldn't lay down good tracks, on average (which she obviously does). Evidence that she's legit can be seen in any live performance. But there is a world a difference between "live" and "radio ready" material. If their albums sound like their live work, you would have never heard them. There would be no albums, and singles. They'd be a good soundcloud act, at best. Getting radio ready material requires immense amount of detail work, editing, etc. Billie makes Finneas' job EASIER, by being talented but let's not pretend like the guy isn't doing anything. And let's not pretend she's Whitney, or Mariah circa 1994: one-take monsters that leave the mic smoldering when they step away from it. Neither does she impart soulful qualities (in a single take) like Nina Simone, X-tina, Beth Gibbons etc. You might feel like she does, live, but that's only because that groundwork from the album cuts are there like a map for your brain. Objectively, her live performances, while above average, are not anything that'd break her away from the pack. The album cuts are low-impact vocals tracked in close mic situations with high gain, high compression, and with multiple, M-U-L-T-I-P-L-E takes. Definitely much more akin to Lorde, etc. Lorde paved the way for this style, doing something very similar to their work flow, but her instruments/composition sound amateur in comparison, and that's after being reproduced. Finneas' VST-i choices, and composition are far superior, creating an awesome sonic palate, with special emphasis on the low-end and rhythm with sparse mids/highs. This means no frequencies are competing with the vocal performance(s), allowing chordal harmonization on the vocal tracks that would otherwise be muddy. Total cheat code to seat the vocals, but the time people typically spend getting mids/highs done? Finneas spends that fixating on the textures of the low-end, and it shows. Almost ethereal at times, not an adjective typically associated with low frequencies. Billie has a great voice for her style, but be real. Bottom line? Billie Eilish's voice is hella edited, and Billie Eilish is very talented. You don't need autotune when you're not paying for studio time. When YOU are the studio, you can just do 200 takes, take your time, and take snippets from all the takes to make a killer performance (that never existed). I bet there are 50 versions of that laugh he speaks about in this video. 20 years ago, her albums would not have existed. It'd take some real money to obsessively record the same 5 seconds of vocals 100 times. Counting the editing, that can be like... IDK.. 3 days of work? No label would have EVER paid for that. And as good as Finneas is, he would be nowhere absent low-latency home-based DAW recording. And I say that not to sound offensive. It is AWESOME that we have this technology now, so they can make these albums. Interesting times! Hahah. I'm sure they go nuts listening to all the vocals and have to take frequent breaks to just keep their ears from getting fatigued and losing objectivity. Awesome in their own right, and seemingly rebellious to the "traditional" album work flow. Good stuff. So, back to my first point - Not a fan of the music, but I love the production value, and the fact they'll spend days chasing sonic qualities for 30 seconds of audio. And that's all I'm ever going to say on Billie Eilish. Nothing else to say, and I'm no fanboy. So there you have it.

[@RS-ho7of]

Very informative perspective!

[@jakobole]

Spot on. I love the absence of autotune. It will be like what the DX7 was in the 80's I hope. Scorned and looked down upon. Next, we need to get rid of the 808 kick, snare and hat that's also running rampant. FFS, this is ART - try something new! Thanks!

[@theholographicempire2550]

@@jakobole DX7, sure I can see where you're coming from. Agree to disagree on all things 808. :D Unprocessed, or processed. It's (still) amazing.

[@jakobole]

@@theholographicempire2550 It IS amazing - but when you've had "amazing" 5 million times, it's not so "amazing" any more. Not even "zing" :)

[@josie_haskins]

This is all done on logic!! My mind is blown, I need to start learning more techniques