Voge 300 Rally 10,000 kms Owner's Review

[@pawelwolski1316]

Spot on, I am 55 (been riding all my life). Living in Asia for the last 20 years, I have been converted to the joy of light/lower displacement bikes. Last year my friend and I did Morocco trip, including 325 km of desert riding. We rented (only choice) the old Tenere 660, in the sand, these bikes became real monsters, not fun. I have the Honda Rally 300, from factory, it comes with bubble gum suspension, choked up/Euro 5 terrible off idle fueling, soft bars, no racks or real skid plane, no charging port, no passing light switch (really important here in Asia, as most drivers are trying to kill you)......It took $3000 USD to correct all these real flaws. These bikes have been made like that for 8 years now, Honda simply refuses to fix these issues. So for the price of one fixed Honda Rally, my friend and I can buy two of these bikes and go. Thx for good vid.

[@livelongrideonover70]

Thank you. I believe that Voge have really done their market research with this bike. my first sand experience was in Morocco on a Triumph Tiger 1200. Monster describes it well. 🥵🥴😂

[@Manuel_PS]

It's good to know that you are well. I have had my VOGE 300 Rally for 3 months, I am 65 years old, and I really enjoy it offroad. Your videos have given me more confidence that it is an excellent and resistant motorcycle and as I tell my children "take care of the motorcycle and it will take care of you." Thanks and keep riding.

[@livelongrideonover70]

Thank you. I am glad you are also enjoying your bike. But you are not 65 years 'old' you are 65 years young 💪😁

[@johnharvey5338]

I have to admit I am loving mine the time goes by, did 100 kms today just riding the back roads, it’s getting better the more I ride it.

[@livelongrideonover70]

I am glad you are also enjoying your bike. Mine is the same. It seems to just get better and better. They are great for back roads.

[@markchallenger8512]

Great review Bryan I’ve owned mine for 5 months now and I love it. I put some Michelin trackers on and it’s made an awesome trail bike. It’s a good value capable trail bike simple as that.

[@livelongrideonover70]

Thank you. Yes, you have summed it up with that. Trackers have a really good reputation, and they are on my list for next time.

[@AndreaScarnecchia]

Hello there, I have been watching all your great videos on the Rally. Glad you like it so much. I live in Italy and have a similar motorcycle story... I have owned 3 Bmw K75S, great bykes, no doubt, but had to sell the last due to local restrictions(it was from 1986). I turned to a Suzuki DR350 and to off road riding(at the age of 63) and I really much enjoy this new kind of driving. Aside I got a SWM Six Days, very enjoyable motor byke. I have a different way of going around, take my time, enjoy the countryside, just like you. Have fun and keep safe, ciao

[@livelongrideonover70]

Hi thanks for your comment. It's great to know there are like minded riders who are enjoying their bikes later in life. The Portuguese say 'Boas Curvas' ✌

[@fatpigeonadventurerider2118]

Bryan where you do the talk at the end is where we parted company on our ride out. Great video as usual.

[@livelongrideonover70]

Thank you Sean. I thought I had been there before 😂

[@battlingbats3040]

Great reviews of the Voge, thank you for helping me decide what to buy next!

[@livelongrideonover70]

Thanks for your comment. I hope you have fun. Ride safe.

[@ogasi1798]

great ownership review - keep going fella, having a lighter bike is the way forward at all times if you ask me, i hate to mention age but it makes great sense to keep the riding safer and more enjoyable - we all age and we know what comes with it - if a bike allows continued exploration and enjoyment as we age then that is the right bike - the engine will be fine as we know it is a kawi at heart , if the aftermarket can catch up soon and offer some nice extras for owners these bikes will become super popular and will encourage Voge to keep pushing the envelope a bit

[@livelongrideonover70]

Thanks you. I think you have summed it up very well.

[@BibleBiker254_CoolMaxx]

Awesome awesome awesome.... Voge rally is awesome. I want to own it.

[@livelongrideonover70]

Yes get one and have fun.

[@clunkygearbox]

Hi Bryan, nice to see you back in the saddle. Well, I'm 68 and have similar feelings looking at my Voge next to my GS1200. The Beemer is still useful for when Mrs Clunky-Gearbox fancies a trip, but the Voge wins hands down for a fun ride. Cheers.

[@livelongrideonover70]

Thank you. They are both very good bikes with their own uses. Enjoy your rides.

[@michmoto]

Super ce retour d'infos, je pensa que je vais en acheter une... A+

[@livelongrideonover70]

merci. j'apprécie le compliment. Je vous souhaite beaucoup de plaisir. (Google translate)

[@gammaraygem]

I re watched your 3000 km review also, and wondered if you had ever checked the wheel and swingarm bearings. Several vloggers report a lack of grease in them and one showed damaged bearings. Then another reacted and said that though not abundant, his bearings seemed to be sufficiently lubricated. I guess one should hear metally noise when going downhill on asphalt with the engine off, if sthing wrong there (?). I am at 2000 km now and will have the mechanic check the bearings next service. Thanks for the videos, they are helpful.

[@livelongrideonover70]

Thank you for your comment. I check the wheel bearings regularly. They are still original at 7,000km, with no signs of wear. After the 10,000kms review, I removed all the lower suspension linkages. The bearings had very little grease, so I put in as much as I could and refitted everything. I did the same with the steering head bearings. I have seen several reports that say this is the same on many of the top brands of bikes.

[@birchwoodbiker]

Great video, I'm but a youngster at 59, I bought the Himmy 411 to do this type of riding, It has just been sold so the 300 will be on my radar, Put gators on the forks that will illiminate the seal issue👍👍👍

[@livelongrideonover70]

Thank you. The Voge 300 Rally is more off-road biased than the Himmy. Nathan the postman has made a good comparison video. Thanks for the tip about the gators.

[@chrisjonesbath]

Thanks for all the vid, really enjoyed them.

[@livelongrideonover70]

Thanks Chris. Feedback keeps me motivated.

[@dinnng]

I had that tippical knocking in the fork,too. From the beginning, solved the problem by loosening all bolds of the Trippletree and tire, and tightened them like it's told for my fireblade.....gone ! But now my clutch is giving problems. Sometimes i can't pull it anymore and the gearlever is completely fixed. Still i have to measure the suspension travel....must be 24cm and not 20.5....

[@livelongrideonover70]

I tried what you did with the front suspension before I took it to the dealer. If your bike is still under warranty it would be best to take it to the dealer. Good luck.

[@BrianSmith-ql5nj]

Nice bike and kit👍👍

[@livelongrideonover70]

Thank you for your comment.

[@eisitinker]

Schön wieder von Dir zu höre. Gruß aus Germany.

[@livelongrideonover70]

Danke schön. Hast du deinen „Esel“ bekommen?

[@eisitinker]

@@livelongrideonover70 hallo, ja, ich habe meine Voge bekommen, und suche immer den 7. Gang :-). Im Moment läuft es gesundheitlich nicht so rund, aber das ist bei den Jungs aus den 50gern eben so 😉✌️🤘😎

[@livelongrideonover70]

@@eisitinker Ich hoffe, du gewöhnst dich an das Fahrrad. Es ist keine schnelle Maschine. Und ich wünsche Ihnen eine gute Genesung. Viel Glück.

[@dantedevil444]

Ты крут! Спасибо за такой хороший отзыв!

[@livelongrideonover70]

ευχαριστώ. εκτιμώ το κομπλιμέντο (Goole translate)

[@HugoMoore-v1n]

Hi Brian great video can you let me know the details of the replacement gear lever. Thanks

[@livelongrideonover70]

Hi Hugo, you may find this video helpful. There is a link on it. Remember to use thread lock. kzbin.info/www/bejne/o4Cnc6iuitqLd6Msi=Mqh6OjtcAvhBlI9M

[@kirilkovchegarski3707]

Hello there. I am happy that you like the Voge. I also love mine ❤. How many oil changes for those 10km?

[@livelongrideonover70]

They are easy to all in love with. 🤩 first oil change 500km, then 5,000km, and now 10,000 kms. The bike has been serviced by the dealer so far.

[@hervecazin9793]

Bonjour et bravo pour cette vidéo , une petite question auriez vosu le lien ou une référence pour le sélecteur de remplacement ? merci et bonnes ballades !

[@livelongrideonover70]

Thank you for your comment and question. You may find this video helpful. there is a link below it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/o4Cnc6iuitqLd6Msi=kZfy1i6-K9sRiZu7

[@hervecazin9793]

@@livelongrideonover70 merci !

[@andrewblock5087]

Hi Where did you get those bags on the crash bars, Picking up a yellow version this week and they look like a good and useful addition.

[@livelongrideonover70]

Thanks for watching. I got them on AliExpress. I hope you enjoy your bike. www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007585983440.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.pcOrderListRecommend.4.24d818022w4dOq&gps-id=pcOrderListRecommend&scm=1007.38956.373968.0&scm_id=1007.38956.373968.0&scm-url=1007.38956.373968.0&pvid=e898ff01-9883-4d63-bff9-a0b308f7ecac&_t=gps-id:pcOrderListRecommend,scm-url:1007.38956.373968.0,pvid:e898ff01-9883-4d63-bff9-a0b308f7ecac,tpp_buckets:668%232846%238114%231999&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21EUR%2156.66%2117.56%21%21%21434.88%21134.81%21%402103856417260805704718284e1d31%2112000041397754866%21rec%21PT%214098831561%21XZ&utparam-url=scene%3ApcOrderListRecommend%7Cquery_from%3A

[@andrewblock5087]

@@livelongrideonover70 Thanks for the link

[@mickemmett6828]

I'm 65 in a months time and currently ride a BMW R1200GS and although I've done a little off roading on it it's obvious to me that it is way too heavy to do any serious off roading. This Voge 300 Rally is a serious contender at a great price to enable me to out around the back trails on the Yorkshire Moors a lot more than I do now, I'd keep the GS for the long touring trips though.

[@livelongrideonover70]

It sounds like a great combination. Each bike has its different specialities. The Voge is like a toy off-road compared the GS. Skill level and experience also makes a big difference. We must enjoy our bikes for as long as we can.

[@xXxBo5sANaCxXx]

Hi, any update on the bike? Still runs well? Any mechanical issues with it? Is it reliable? Thanks

[@livelongrideonover70]

@@xXxBo5sANaCxXx Hi, Thanks for asking. So far 18,000kms. No problems except for a couple of loose bolts. That can happen on any bike that has a hard life off road. And every time I ride it makes me smile 😊

[@Moranah]

Regarding the fork seals, I've seen people putting neoprene/fabric seal covers in order to prolong the live of the fork seals. I guess it reduces the amount of dirt and dust on the forks itself, but I don't know if it stops the super fine dust that you're dealing with.

[@livelongrideonover70]

Thanks for that suggestion. I am thinking of trying some before it gets too dry here.

[@MrPpierluigi]

Could you please link the brand of the side bags? Cheers from an happy italian owner

[@livelongrideonover70]

Hi. Good to know you are also happy. Here is the link. www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005533162775.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.4.34a41802JhBUbl

[@guiguidenice]

Thanks for the link...I buy 2 immediately ! 👍

[@graester]

Hi Bryan, great review! I live near Lagos. Do you ride with the Algarve Senior Riders?

[@livelongrideonover70]

@@graester Hi Graham, fellow Algarvian. Yes I am in the Gravel Group. How about you?

[@graester]

@@livelongrideonover70 Hi, I've been introduced to the group but have yet to ride with them. Hopefully soon.

[@livelongrideonover70]

@ they are a good gang. Lots of live long ride on types 😁

[@moussaabbouriss1495]

I'm from Morocco, and I'm thinking about buying a rally 300, next time u visit Morocco we'll meet

[@livelongrideonover70]

Thank you. Or maybe when you come to Portugal 😁

[@J2Wlz]

Thanks for the review! It looks like it's a good bike 👍 Is the bike still on the original chain and sprockets? And how do you do the chain maintenance without a center stand?

[@livelongrideonover70]

Thank you. Yes the chain & sprockets are original and still in good condition. In the garage I have a centre lift, and on the trail I carry a y-prop to lift the rear wheel.

[@J2Wlz]

@@livelongrideonover70 thnx!

[@livelongrideonover70]

First Name has asked for a link. Here is the axle lifter (also called a y-prop by some) that I have www.amazon.de/-/en/Générique-Motorcycle-Parking-Frame-Retractable/dp/B0BS1HFQ6W/ref=sr_1_35?crid=23CF326Z56K5F&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.WrzlrSJT5WhLusaMGQWO2OG6KcsF_9ojBZdoiAmw1Pp9T7FKd5LK2SPNkP5iQEWY58Kj6h5MGuMovFfqG-zm9Xs6NURgZzRgU5GaZtPNUteFvUoOHvVHXzLoqkrqH4_95xVwc5EB296VPk9KuN0GDiPI1iHv-lY9TfN3hCaovUIMSj67ZbmHnWuafhO8um8nt6HvhCfJWx6Fw0rLsO-W6gbaeAl8q3f9rWjGCkeCLrB1teWR9I0f7gg9yvGRvoiw2X7brzvJAUYTAEYokjbwiRW7eV2t920Igs6EidlcYGI.6VNrWeShKqrPM3jO4_QR5V4pCpLWxIQCr6ZCDO01wHc&dib_tag=se&keywords=motorcycle+folding+rear+wheel+lifter&qid=1715270142&sprefix=%2Caps%2C132&sr=8-35

[@JohnJez]

Thank you for all the information about the Voge, it has convinced me to purchase one which I have done today! Out of curiosity, where are you purchasing your spares for the bike from? I look forward to seeing more videos. Thanks, John

[@livelongrideonover70]

Hi John. Thank you. I hope you enjoy your bike. I you do I will accept responsibility. If not I will deny it 😂 Here is link to a spares supplier in France. www.azmotors.fr/PIECES_VOGE.html and another one in Czech (I Think) www.motor-x.com/czesci-motocyklowe/voge,300-rally

[@emmezero]

Salve, ispirato dai tuoi video ,ho preso da poco rally 300. Ho appena concluso 1000km e a breve primo tagliando. Moto divertente,faccio pero' le mie acrobazie per salire e scendere😅 Con quali pneumatici hai sostituito quelli di serie?

[@livelongrideonover70]

Hi. Thank you. Yes it is a fun machine. 👍 In the review I had Shinko E804/805 Adventure trail tyres. Now I have Michelin trackers. I will choose a different tyre next time. I like to try different tyres. Enjoy your bike.

[@dudleymanning6900]

Hi Brian, what gear selector did you replace the original one with please? I have moved mine up but could really do with a longer one.

[@livelongrideonover70]

Hi Dudley. Maybe tis video will help. there should be link with it. I have had to re-tighten mine a couple of times , then realised I hadn't used thread lock.kzbin.info/www/bejne/o4Cnc6iuitqLd6Msi=Y9rjBDMs6DEYDoRP

[@onthepegs]

Hi there, against the dust in the fork: maybe use the fork socks. Foamy material very cheap. the sidestand is weakend (thinner material) near the top by factory. In mine there was even a hole there. can you give a link to the tiger phone mount pls? not sure if I will be able to walk let alone ride when I will be 71 :)

[@livelongrideonover70]

Thanks for the advice. Yes some fork bellows would be good. 71 is not old 😁 www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005266600448.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.1.32edwzVywzVyQV&algo_pvid=7de291c2-34f2-47bb-bf11-80e0770f806d&algo_exp_id=7de291c2-34f2-47bb-bf11-80e0770f806d-0&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21EUR%2116.76%2116.76%21%21%2117.92%2117.92%21%402103243417101035315975571eec59%2112000032418120627%21sea%21PT%214098831561%21&curPageLogUid=r1Vudzb7ksjU&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch%7Cquery_from%3A

[@onthepegs]

@@livelongrideonover70Thanks!

[@giuliobuccini208]

Hello, is the muffler loud? (I do not like the bikes making a lot of noise while in the forest.)

[@livelongrideonover70]

Single cylinder 4 stroke dirt bikes all make the braap noise, this one included. I don't think it is 'louder' than the Honda CRF 300.

[@Dave-in-France]

Hi there, I tested this bike today and here are my brief thoughts : "Comments after Essais/Test ride : Front brake pretty-much non existent, back brake good; Taller than I remembered; VERY short gearing, leading to 60 kph at 6000 rpm 6th gear; Vibey, like riding a 125cc; Good handling/cornering on-road; didn’t test off-road; Not for me."

[@livelongrideonover70]

We all have our personal likes and dislikes with motorcycles. I found that the brakes improved after use. Some people change the rear sprocket to improve gearing for highway riding. I find mine is ok as standard as I don't use it primarily as a road bike. Yes it's vibey, as to be expected from a single cylinder thumper, but not excessively. It is a trail bike. Riding off-road is where it really shows its character. Whatever you ride, enjoy your bike.

[@onuraydeniz8043]

Front brake became monster after 1500-2000 km. I changed front sprocket because of very short gearing.

[@CosmicSeeker69]

Hi John. First time visitor. I hope that you dont mind me asking but does anyone have details for parts suppliers down through the Balkans please? Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina and Bulgaria??

[@livelongrideonover70]

Welcome. I don's have info on this areas. I did look at Voge dealers but couldn't find any. There is a parts dealer in France who could ship. Good luck on your quest. Bryan.

[@ivanmaric4752]

Is it possible to achieve 40kmpl or 2,5l consump per 100km with easy trottle in 6gear at 70kmh solo ride on the nice flat asphalt road??

[@livelongrideonover70]

That is a very good question. To which I do not have the answer.

[@Daz533]

I won’t one bit I’ve only got a 30 inch leg. 920mm high the voge think I may struggle.

[@livelongrideonover70]

A friend sat on mine today. He has a 30" leg and can get both feet down, although not flat footed. It may be worth sitting on one to find out if it fits or not. Best of luck.

[@RKnauf-eh4pc]

Why do you have to give your feedback while driving?

[@livelongrideonover70]

@@RKnauf-eh4pc That’s an interesting question. I don’t have to, but I did. Maybe it’s more interesting than watching me standing and talking all the time 🤷‍♂️

[@zamdell1]

Loctite for the bolts .....

[@livelongrideonover70]

@@zamdell1 yes. 👍

[@dbbiking5505]

What about parts and services

[@livelongrideonover70]

I have just watched a couple of your videos. Honey moley bro, you can ride. Makes me wish I was 50 years younger! I don't think the Voge is made for that! Servicing is easy to do yourself. I have obtained filters from AliExpress, and this bike is becoming popular in many countries in Europe. I have bought brake pads from a dealer in France, online. So far, after 16,000kms, the bike has not needed anything else changed. Ride safe. Have fun.

[@dbbiking5505]

@@livelongrideonover70 is this message for me ?

[@dbbiking5505]

Thank you ​@@livelongrideonover70

[@livelongrideonover70]

@@dbbiking5505 you asked the question.

[@alexstan5358]

Voge(CF moto) which is supplier for BMW 800/850/900 easily makes one of the most reliable engines in adv market. Chinese are coming hard and when you look at this little Voge you see that is 5 times better bike than Honda CRF300rally

[@livelongrideonover70]

Thanks for your comment. The Chinese have really done their market research. The right bike at the right price. The Voge is becoming a very popular choice.

[@knobbytrails577]

Thank-you for another informative video, from another happy Voge 300 Rally owner :) From a previous video of yours I seem to remember that in order for your Aliexpress engine bash plate to be fitted you had to leave out some side pieces of the fairing, does my memory serve me well? However, from the video of a French Voge owner in reply to a question of mine he said that he was able not to leave out anything, although I believe that his bash plate is the same as yours, as you can see here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qWm5e5ejnq12Y7c . I'd like to make sure what to expect before I order the same plate. Thank-you.

[@livelongrideonover70]

Hi, thank you. I did not fit the black side trim. Looking at the video you attached, it looks that he has also not fitted them. The plate does not have mounting points. The link below looks like a better plate, as it also has the mountings to attach it to the side of the engine. www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005622014621.html?businessType=ProductDetail&srcSns=sns_Copy&spreadType=socialShare&bizType=ProductDetail&social_params=6000058597929&aff_fcid=d66b126777024d229eff881260f7cb8a-1709755567674-09635-_oCsjuiQ&tt=CPS_NORMAL&fbclid=IwAR0TrK1KV6WPSfbyb24xCT5ESUUtuZG4HO1ItA_iN7JdzMrRs0i5eodQDFk&aff_fsk=_oCsjuiQ&aff_platform=shareComponent-detail&sk=_oCsjuiQ&aff_trace_key=d66b126777024d229eff881260f7cb8a-1709755567674-09635-_oCsjuiQ&shareId=6000058597929&businessType=ProductDetail&platform=AE&terminal_id=1b933b34039a423e910e7cdcc0e7e9ef

[@knobbytrails577]

@@livelongrideonover70 Thank-you so much for your reply and for suggesting what looks like a better plate, I'll look into that one.

[@livelongrideonover70]

@@knobbytrails577 There are several to choose from on AliExpress. Good luck.

[@onuraydeniz8043]

Everthing is good excpept front suspensions. Bottoming out at high jump. To soft

[@livelongrideonover70]

The Voge is a dual sport trail bike. That is what the suspension is designed for. Maybe a real enduro bike would be better for you?

[@onuraydeniz8043]

@@livelongrideonover70 Yeah right. I have exc 250. Compared with but pointless. Has different purpose

[@livelongrideonover70]

@@onuraydeniz8043 whatever you ride have fun.

[@tieoneon1614]

Shameless copy of the Kawi 300 engine. Unless they purchased the rights to the R&D, but I doubt these Chinese companies just steal everything

[@livelongrideonover70]

Is that a true fact? Did you know that Kawasaki designed a 650cc 4-stroke based on the Triumph Bonneville?

[@tieoneon1614]

@@livelongrideonover70 U can look at the engine and see it without doubt. Listening to the engine and clutch, its 100% Kawi. I dont give a sh*t about a Triumph engine.

[@livelongrideonover70]

@@tieoneon1614 Thank you. You obviously know stuff about bikes.

[@alternativeperception6949]

Did You know they actually built the engine for Kawasaki they didn't steal it, they also build engines for BMW

[@tieoneon1614]

@@alternativeperception6949 they sure as hell didnt build it in ''96 when it was first released.