Voge 300 Rally Owner's review.

I have owned my Voge 300 Rally dual-sport motorcycle for 9 months and covered 3000 kms. In this video I tell you just what I think about it. It has been pointed out to me that there is an error in the video about the suspension specifications. I have shown the rear suspension travel to be 80mm. The total travel is 80mm plus the movement of the linkages. After further research I have found the total travel 240mm.

[@bicmac333]

Respect that you still have so much fun driving off-road at 70, I wish you that you can do it for a few more years! 👍

[@livelongrideonover70]

Thanks very much. That is certainly what I hope to do, and I wish the same for all riders.

[@jorgepinto3838]

Congrats on your honest real life review on this little fun dual sports. Voge should thank you because you just sold me on this 300 rally 😅 best regards and “boas curvas”!

[@livelongrideonover70]

Muito obrigado. If you have as much fun as me it’s already a lot 😀 Enjoy ✌️

[@livelongrideonover70]

I have to clear up an error in my video about the rear suspension. I have shown the rear suspension travel in the specs as 80mm. To be accurate the rear shock absorber travel 80mm. Total travel is that, plus the movement of the linkages, which I have since found is 240mm.

[@jurassic690]

Nice review sir, thanks for sharing your views on your bike (and your stunning local scenery).

[@livelongrideonover70]

Thanks very much. Yes it is a beautiful place to ride around 👍

[@cjosak]

Great video! Lots of useful information. I love what this bike has to offer and i plan on buying one. I owned Zontes 310T2 which is another chinese bike. I sold it as i won't be able to ride next summer season as I won't be home but after I finally return I plan on buying something a bit more offroad capable and this Voge seems as the best option for the price.

[@livelongrideonover70]

Thanks for your comment. I am happy you found the video helpful. The Voge is definitely a capable machine. I hope you are able to return to enjoying your riding asap.

[@dodgeanderson]

Great video which I’m sure a load of us can relate to. It’s a great bike! Thank you.

[@livelongrideonover70]

Thank you 🙏🏼

[@duncanelliott5120]

Great review. Great bike ……on my list now. Thanks!

[@livelongrideonover70]

Thank you. You are welcome. If you get one I hope you have at least as much fun as I do on mine.

[@skaraborgcraft]

Nice job on the split-screen footage, not sure why many others dont do that. Im still running a 42 year old Honda XL, but this is on the list of possibles.

[@livelongrideonover70]

Thank you. That’s good testament for Honda. I wonder if my Voge will still be running in another 42 years. Or me 😂

[@robertkoper3039]

Nice bike ,good review.Got the crf 300 l myself for off-roading here in S Spain. Subscribed now

[@livelongrideonover70]

Thanks very much. Yes the CRF is a great bike. There is a reason why they are so popular. Ride safe.

[@mariusznoone7578]

I have ktm 690 duke, and yamaha mt 09, but i loved this bike on first time i saw him. You just convinced me to buy him :). Thanks :)

[@livelongrideonover70]

Wow, that’s awesome. I hope you have at least as much fun as I do. Ride safe.

[@gabrielkopp2036]

Finally an honest review that is not constantly comparing this bike to the Honda 300l rally... thank you for that... it's nice to hear about the voge instead of how the Honda 300l rally is better and more expensive.... unfortunately I may never get one as I'm in the US

[@livelongrideonover70]

Thanks for watching and commenting. Voge is becoming very popular in Europe and South America. It’s a pity you can’t get one. Maybe one day? 🤞

[@gabrielkopp2036]

@@livelongrideonover70 you get all the cool bikes..heck it took 3 years just to get the t7 hear in the USA and we still only the base model!! No world raid or rally models..

[@livelongrideonover70]

@@gabrielkopp2036 if you come to Portugal I will let you have a ride on mine 😁

[@gabrielkopp2036]

@@livelongrideonover70 thanks for the offer.. at this point I do have the time or funds to travel to Portugal.. although it is on my bucket list

[@livelongrideonover70]

@@gabrielkopp2036 No matter where you are and what you ride I wish you have safe fun. Thanks for your support.

[@johnterry804]

Looks a great little bike

[@livelongrideonover70]

Thanks for watching. Yes it is and has a big smile factor built in. 😁

[@jonparker644]

Hi really like the video. Great split screen etc. Do you use the usb port to charge off? The problem I now have is do I go for this bike or the Himalayan. Have to say the Vog is better looking aesthetically. Again good video will be following.

[@livelongrideonover70]

Thanks you. Yes I use the USB. Luckily we get a lot of dry weather here, so most of the time I can use it. I'm not sure just how waterproof it would be though. To be sure, when it rains I have a power bank in my tank bag & pass a cable from that. Yes the Voge & Himalayan are very different animals. Both would take you amazing places, although the Voge has the edge off-road. The Himalayan is more versatile as a motorcycle, in my opinion. If I didn't have the Tiger & the Voge, I would get a Himalayan. Depends what you want the bike for. Good luck with your decision.

[@andymcm6902]

nice review well done

[@livelongrideonover70]

Thank you. Another first for me. 👍

[@morenoandrea5125]

And also if you ever come to Italy (liguria) I'd be more than happy to show you some trails

[@livelongrideonover70]

Thank you for your invitation. I never say never ✌

[@dontlike7399]

Nice one! I'd also like to know how many km you've done with it in total and if you got any problems with the engine or with parts rusting

[@livelongrideonover70]

Thank you. The bike has now done 3177 km and all is well. Free of problems and rust.

[@JtheBarata]

Great Video! Been thinking about buying it for my 1st Bike! The only thing I’m worried about it is its height. Mind asking you how tall you are? Cause I’m 1.75m tall and I think it might be a little bit to big for me 😅

[@livelongrideonover70]

Thank you. I am 1.85m although it’s the leg length that’s important. My inseam is 79cm. I know another guy has done a review and he is the same height as me but has longer legs. We all have different anatomical proportions. If you get chance to try one I hope it fits you. Best of luck.

[@JIMWSMITH]

Nice review ❤. Did the engine improve once it was run in, did you notice the difference? And do the wheels have tubes ?

[@livelongrideonover70]

Thank you. The engine settled in quite quickly. It felt a little 'less tight' after the first 1000 km service. It is really running sweet now, after 3000 kms. Yes the tyres have tubes.

[@pclaxton78]

I'm going to get one ,made my mind up

[@livelongrideonover70]

If you have half as much fun as me it will be a lot. Enjoy.

[@svaralen]

Looks like a great little bike!! I am a beginner looking for my first bike and do you think is possible to do some small touring trip with this Voge? Thanx for the nice review and regards from far away Serbia 🇷🇸✌️

[@livelongrideonover70]

Hi, thanks for your comment. The Voge is a great bike for beginners. It is really easy to ride. Yes it is good for adventure touring. There are videos on KZbin where they have been taken to many places. I have so far only been for 3 days, and it was great. I am planning a much longer trip soon. Ride safe ✌

[@Jaffa1951]

I'm planning a trip from the UK to Capetown starting September or October 2024, and am considering this bike. In the UK you can get the Honda CRF300 Rally, but as you, probably, know it's getting on for twice the price of the Voge, The difference in price ( £2800 ) could be used to help pay for the trip. However, there's other things to take into consideration, like the distance between oil changes, the unknown reliability of the Voge etc. I'm, also, looking at the Yamaha XT250, which is lighter than both of these, and is air cooled (something less to go wrong) and has a lower seat height, so at 5' 10'' with a 31" inseam, I can get my leg over easier. This will be difficult on the Voge, or Honda with anything sitting on the rear rack. The other option is to do it like ' Itchy Boots' does and high kick your leg over, which I can just about do on my Himalayan. Unfortunately, the Himalayan is too heavy if you have to keep picking it up, which is quite likely as I'm not great off road ( plan to get better on the trip ) and at 72 ( I'll be 73 by the time the trip starts) I need light. Anyway, I've subscribed to your channel. Good, honest video. Thanks.

[@livelongrideonover70]

Hi, respect to you brother! Thanks for watching, and your comments. I have a 31" inseam. I get both feet down on level ground. It's the slopes that can catch me out 😁. For a trip like that it's important to get the bike that suits you. Loncin is a massive corporation, and Voges are selling in many countries around the globe. First service 1000km, second 5000 and every 5000 thereafter. It all looks easy enough to do basic maintenance. It's a case of trusting your judgment. Good luck with whatever you get. I wish you a fantastic adventure.✌

[@livelongrideonover70]

@@wardje53 yes I have heard that. Although built under license and made by Voge, not Kawasaki. General quality seems good so far. Service is every 5000kms.

[@fatpigeonadventurerider2118]

I too ride these trails

[@Captain71ridingPhilippin-dd1ef]

All good. The only thing that I noticed as a potential problem is your mention of a flimsy side stand. I watched your training on gravel with a drifting rear wheel, and I do not think I'll even try that - beyond my skill level. But I do regularly use the side stand on my bikes to turn the bike around, especially when parking in some tight spot. Would you dare to do that on 300 rally side stand?

[@livelongrideonover70]

If I gave the impression that it’s flimsy, then that’s not what I intended. It actually appears to be quite sturdy. The thing that concerns me is the amount of sideways play. I have tried to tighten it but the bolt is stepped and I can’t. It’s strong enough to stand on but I don’t want to keep doing that to my bike. Maybe I just have too much mechanical sympathy. So in answer to your question, if I don’t want to put my weight on it repeatedly then I wouldn’t want to keep turning by the stand. When it’s in for the next service I will ask the mechanic for his opinion. I could be wrong.

[@livelongrideonover70]

I have found an easy fix for the side stand and will make a video.

[@alrightdave6135]

Hope this bike will bring down the prices of used crf300 in the uk. People are taking liberties on the pricing.

[@livelongrideonover70]

Maybe, anything is possible. Although maybe a new Voge could be a good choice over a second hand bike? Just a thought.

[@desmondobrien68]

This bike is £3799+on the road in the UK

[@livelongrideonover70]

@@desmondobrien68 that sounds like temptation 😁

[@stephennewell6628]

Nice common sense look at a cheap but great fun bike. Thanks

[@livelongrideonover70]

Thanks. So far almost 10,000kms, including 4,000 in Morocco on the tour I have just finished today. Definitely great fun.

[@aagetreffen]

The Honda crf 300 has very soft suspension. To soft for me. Is this one soft or is it adequate for your weight?

[@livelongrideonover70]

I find the suspension to be just right for me. I am 90kg plus riding gear. On my recent trip I took about 6kg of luggage. The bike handled fine.

[@aagetreffen]

@@livelongrideonover70 Thank you. My height and weight is about the same as you. So it should be fine for me to. The Honda crf300L is best suited for a 60kg rider. This one sounds better.

[@livelongrideonover70]

@@aagetreffen I’ve not ridden the crf but every report I see says the suspension needs to be upgraded. I haven’t seen a single complaint about the Voge so far.

[@gregjetnikoff7124]

Another tiny fuel tank. The CRF300l has an even smaller on but their Rally version has a decent usuably 13l tank. In Australia, the vast mojority of dirt bikes need aftermarket tanks to go anywhere decent.

[@livelongrideonover70]

Thanks for watching. Yes, it was clearly not designed for long distances in the bush, with very few fuel stops. However, in Europe it is adequate. That's probably true for many parts of the world.

[@fatpigeonadventurerider2118]

The rear suspension comment is wrong, you printed 80mm of travel. I presume it's 280mm

[@livelongrideonover70]

Thank you. Good point. I have now found it is 240mm. I have made acomment explaining it above.

[@kris26backfire]

the engine looks like a klx 250 engine, is it right?

[@livelongrideonover70]

Thanks for watching. It’s a 292cc. Some people believe it’s a Kawasaki made under license but I have just read an article that says it is a Loncin engine. And they make engines for BMW.

[@RobertKostic-pc5sl]

I have one important question, is it possible to travel long distances with this engine.

[@livelongrideonover70]

That's a good question, and if you are asking about reliability, only time will tell. Mine has almost 5000kms so far. The servicing intervals are every 5000kms. This is a reasonable distance if planning long distance trips.

[@RobertKostic-pc5sl]

@@livelongrideonover70 I heard from other reviews about this engine that it has one big flaw, which is that the engine vibrates a lot. People complain a lot about it. Is it possible to drive that engine for 80-90 km and not feel the vibration of the engine.

[@livelongrideonover70]

@@RobertKostic-pc5sl it’s a 300cc single cylinder dual sport bike, with the engine tuning and gearing set for off-road, and I don’t think it’s made for long distances at high speeds on the asphalt. On my 3 day trip it was a mixture of road and off road, and that’s what it’s made for. On the country lanes I found no issues with the vibration. Yes, it does vibrate. Of course. It will depend on what you want from a motorcycle to decide if it is for you or not.

[@morenoandrea5125]

Hi, i love this bike (i have te same bike), but if you want to have the gears to behave a bit better (in my opinion) id advise you to replace the pinion with one that has a tooth or two more, also if you want to ride in the mud MAKE SURE TO TAKE OFF THE PINION GUARD it will gunk up with mud and it WILL start destroying the chain, even with the stock pinion. ps. yes i had to replace the entire chain :|

[@livelongrideonover70]

Thank you for watching and your comments. Also thank you for your advice, based on your experience. Sometimes we learn the hard way, and you have hopefully saved somebody else from having the same problem as you had. Luckily, we don't get a lot mud on the trails in Portugal. I think If I ever take it on longer trip into unknown lands I would do as you suggest. Thanks again.

[@ancymonlobuz]

@morenoandrea5125 Have you changed sprocets on your bike? Just to improve gearing a bit? If so, can you share your experience?

[@morenoandrea5125]

@@ancymonlobuz it's way better, i added two tooth and i can now reach 60mph without any vibration, it lost a bit of torque but nothing too drastic, I'd suggest it

[@ancymonlobuz]

@@morenoandrea5125 Thanks! So the rear or front sprocket? Also, any other "quick" changes to improve the bike?

[@morenoandrea5125]

@@ancymonlobuz the front one, I'd say that's about it except the pignon guard

[@BobBob-vq3rb]

everyday driver / dirt track combo

[@livelongrideonover70]

Yes it’s a great all rounder.

[@fcalin21]

Does it have a rubber cush drive?

[@livelongrideonover70]

That’s a good question. I really don’t know.

[@fcalin21]

@@livelongrideonover70 No problem, i will find. Enjoy the ride!

[@livelongrideonover70]

@@fcalin21 thank you. Whatever you ride, ride safe.

[@maxflight777]

MCN claimed the gearbox was awful…. We all know that Honda spend a great deal advertising with them. Imagine my surprise.

[@livelongrideonover70]

Thanks for that. I have just read that review. I am amazed at how I would disagree in several areas. Although I don't have the experience of comparing to so many other models. Anyway, I am happy with the engine, gearbox, gear shift and everything else really, so that's all that matters to me 😂

[@maxflight777]

@@livelongrideonover70 I’m afraid as I get older … I conclude that Journalists are basically human excrement 💩 . I’m much happier with a personal recommendation or a you tube review from someone trusted and “down to earth “ (Nathan !)

[@livelongrideonover70]

@@maxflight777 absolutely. If it’s good for nathanthepostman it’s good for me 👌

[@rigus8]

How far it went?

[@livelongrideonover70]

So far she has gone 5000kms 👍

[@rigus8]

@@livelongrideonover70 on the bliking reserve fuel ⛽️?:)

[@livelongrideonover70]

270kms@@rigus8

[@wonkywheels1037]

Yep. Don't need to spend $25,000 aus to have fun.

[@onkelpyjter3267]

Tomorrow I take this little bastard for a test ride. It's been 5 years now that I don't own a bike so it's about time :-) I have already tested BMW 310GS and I didn't like it; strange feeling (or maybe not-feeling) of the bike, engine producing nasty noise and vibrations. Then was KTM 390 ADV - on road everything was fine but when went off road it turned out to be stiff... Too stiff for me :-( Dissappointment because every test prooved this bike to be the best it the class. Well, not to me apparently. 2 or 3 weeks ago I've tested Royal Enfield Himalayan - much better comfort in off road but too heavy. Pity because it's a really good bike. There was also Honda CRF300 Rally on my list but since in my whole country (Poland) there is no test bike at all (!) Voge is my last chance. Actually Voge has also no test bikes here but I got in touch with Czech dealership and surprisingly they have one :-) I'm curious about my impressions, can't wait till mornning! Take care Bryan! 🙂

[@livelongrideonover70]

5 years is way tooo long. It is time! I really hope the Voge suits you. Now you have tested the others you should know quickly once you ride it. We are all different. Thank you for your support and comments. I wish you safe and fun riding. ✌

[@onkelpyjter3267]

@@livelongrideonover70 Hey Bryan. So i did a test drive. Damn, that's the bike I was looking for! 😀Light, nimble, comfy, cheap, good quality, fun to ride... in short - meets all my requirements and makes me smile when riding. On Monday I go to a local dealer to pay the advance, this bastard will be mine :-)

[@livelongrideonover70]

@@onkelpyjter3267 hey that’s awesome. I am really pleased for you. Another happy Voge rider. Wishing you many fun adventures.

[@rigus8]

​@@onkelpyjter3267kupiles?

[@C_R_O_M________]

Or you could adventurize a 500EXC and have a bike with suspension from the very top shelve, a motor that has been proven to endure a RTW trip producing X2.5 times the power of this one, and half the weight!

[@livelongrideonover70]

Thanks for your suggestion. For now the Voge will do for me, but who knows what the future will bring 👍

[@TheIdlesurfer]

Money. A good friend of mine has adventurised his KTM 500EXC. Man, has he spent some money. He has an absolute weapon of a bike and he rides it like he stole it. But I get the idea of an all rounder, a calmer, steadier ride. The Voges seems like a solid little jeep of a bike, the EXC a thoroughbred. It's the race horse v the working farm horse. I've an FE350 which is racehorse enough for me. insha'Allah I'll be dicking about on dirt bikes when I'm 70 and hopefully looking as fit and well as our host. Got to love Portugal. Surfing and dirt bike heaven.

[@livelongrideonover70]

@@TheIdlesurfer Hi, thanks for your encouraging comments. Yes, I would put the Voge in the Mule class while the KTM is a race horse 😆 And I am happy to trot along on my mule all day. If you surf as well then Portugal is paradise. Wishing you many happy years of waves and trails. 👍

[@krzysztofgodek6013]

Nie masz Kawasaki KLX300 ale masz silnik z Kawasaki KLX300 w Voge 300 Rally :)

[@livelongrideonover70]

Absolutely! 😂

[@stefanmargraf7878]

Your age may be 70. Your biological age is certainly less. Have fun the years to come!

[@livelongrideonover70]

Thank you for your supportive comments. My age can depend on what time of day I look in the mirror 🤣