Voge 350AC ‖ The even lighter lightweight sub 400cc bike...

[@althescottishbiker]

you were 100% correct, report that guy. Had you been in a car I doubt he would have pulled out.

[@MindfulMotorcyclist]

Thank you, appreciate that 🙏

[@simonchilli2088]

The silver car: he probably thought that you were a moped or scooter so pulled out. He's also BMW driver so it's his right of way as with Audi and large Skoda drivers. The Zontes GK 350 is a contender in this group too. 188 kg, 17 litre tank, approx 40 bhp and 32.8 NM torque.

[@MindfulMotorcyclist]

Good point about Zontes, I've had that on the channel before and it was very nippy for the engine size... fun bike. Didn't like the keyless part though...

[@pilotdaffy]

The white broken line in lanes are to be treated as give way into other lanes. He had no right to attempt a move into your lane, it was up to him to give way to you.

[@AWSmoto]

Excellent review as always, you were totally in in right with regards to the bmw driver, just forcing there way into traffic! I quite fancy the rally 300, but this looks a cool bike as well. Thanks for the review.

[@hiyadroogs]

I've ridden the Rallye 300. It is very slow steering because of the 21 inch front wheel. & to be frank, the engine is a bit of a jack hammer for vibration. Even at idle. It's acceptable & tolerable up to an indicated 60 mph, about 6,000. But it actively discourages you from proceeding upwards past maximum torque revs of 6,500 - as it thrums & buzzes through the entire bike. One long term road tester held it above 70 mph on a long stretch of motorway, & the engine cut out & wouldn't restart. He later discovered that the resultant vibrations had shaken the plug cap clean off the spark plug! 😅

[@AWSmoto]

@@hiyadroogs definitely a bike for short trips and green lanes, I have had a test ride on one and the vibes come on over 50 mph , people seem to think they lessen the more miles you put on the bike?

[@hiyadroogs]

@AWSmoto I couldn't say. I only rode one for 20 minutes. It's possible that it might lessen slightly, but engine balance is engine balance. I don't think long distance would be a problem below 60. But then that kind of defeats the point of a larger engine if a 125 could deliver most of the usable performance. It is very economical though, with an 11:1 compression ratio. 90 mpg is easy to attain.

[@MindfulMotorcyclist]

Thanks for the comment AWS, I'd probably avoid the 300 rally myself as I don't go offroad and it's too tall...

[@willyrackham2957]

I saw one of these at 2 wheel tuesday....really impressed at the build quality and finish these little twins seem very good value

[@MindfulMotorcyclist]

I almost prefer this little one to the bigger 525DSX 😂😀

[@markfortin8286]

That’s a smart looking bike. I saw a CF Moto for the first time this past weekend. It was the 300 or 450 sport bike, not sure which. Really, really sharp looking. I was impressed. “Chinese bike” as a negative connotation has basically been wiped out at this point, from a quality standpoint.

[@MindfulMotorcyclist]

We might get to the stage Mark where Chinese bike become akin to Swiss Watch etc, a statement of quality. Who knows what the future holds...

[@nigelcox7477]

Incisive video as ever… the bike certainly has some spirit, when you exercise those gears, and it looks like it’s easy to get used to, by how you looked so comfortable so quickly. 👍✅😎❤️

[@MindfulMotorcyclist]

Thanks Nigel, and to be honest I really appreciate a small bike. The Voge is very easy to learn and get familiar with. I'm sure it won't sell Royal Enfield numbers because of the name recognition but doesn't mean it's not a fun good value motorcycle.

[@hiyadroogs]

This is an ultra short stroke engine, with exactly the same bore & stroke as the Yamaha R3. Maximum torque is at 9,000. Maximum power at 10,500.

[@MindfulMotorcyclist]

Thanks for the info 👍

[@darrenmilo9565]

Those look very much like Malvern stone walling at the start of this and now you’re going into Worcester! Born and raised in Malvern myself and then St John’s before moving to Notts. Nice to see someone riding roads I know.

[@darrenmilo9565]

And madresfield was where I was born and lived. This was a great video for me 😊

[@MindfulMotorcyclist]

Thanks Darren, yes I love riding in Malvern, live in Worcester 😃

[@weemark67]

Looks A decent made bike, seems quite punchy too😊 a bit scary when a huge hunt of metal suv comes out like that, at you. I guy should should change places, with you. See how it feels. Enjoyed the video Sean😊

[@MindfulMotorcyclist]

Thank you Mark, that's appreciated 👏

[@hectorshouse7348]

Thanks for the review

[@MindfulMotorcyclist]

Very welcome...

[@simongilbert2704]

what a video ;;; look at the multi carpark shot -- looks like shaun is there , but the bike looks superimposed ;;;

[@MindfulMotorcyclist]

Thanks Simon, that's a decent lens for the camera making it such a nice picture.

[@williamlylecameron9345]

Sean and Suzie, Love the name Bumble Bee. I love these type of bikes because they are the under dogs of the competition. I also love it's a parallel twin and because it's a Voge it's good build quality. I keep finding myself ask, do we really need any more power in the real world than this bike gives? Which bike do you think is the best out of this one and the Zontes GK 350? PS: The guy in the BMW was in the wrong and should have waited until you passed and not pulled out, shame on him! Thanks for the excellant review of the Voge 350AC and please keep them coming.

[@MindfulMotorcyclist]

Hi William, thanks again for the nice comment. I think this is nicer than the Zontes, the GK350 has a little more Cc but the build quality isn't as high and that keyless ignition including the seat is ripe to cause a problem when the battery located under the seat goes flat. The Voge has a standard key and feels more Japanese quality to me (few bits of plastic here and there aside). Something weird is up with Zontes at the mo, they are not selling and they are not easy to get demo bikes from. I suspect Voge and in particular CFMOTO are putting on the pressure. I would have liked to have tried that 350cc mini adventure bike from them but no luck... cheers...

[@timsatchell6713]

Survival is more important than who is right and who is wrong. If you had both chilled a little bit the whole situation would have been a bit more passive. I live in Germany, where many would rather have an accident than give in. Surviving is always first.

[@MindfulMotorcyclist]

Agreed Tim 👍

[@1990-t1j]

Nice-looking bike, but I prefer singles with smaller engines. Good value. The Guerrilla is pretty heavy by comparison. REs all are. I might buy a Suzuki VanVan 200 to replace my second bike. 128.5 kg wet and still available new in Southeast Asia.

[@ianhalliwell8604]

What a complete and utter plonker was that SUV driver, report him Shaun, i would. As for the bike well its for youngsters who don't weigh so much and have even less money. Being a twin it lacks the character of a single and like you, as an owner of a GoldStar, i just love a single.

[@MindfulMotorcyclist]

Very much aimed at the new riders coming up and to be fair it's got a lot to offer. Mind you I'll be keeping my Goldstar for the foreseeable 😀😊

[@leegreveson]

Nice of them to close the road just for your opening shot 😂 BMW driver (+SUV entitlement) , they're always in the right 😡 Anyhow, I enjoyed that review and town riding makes a change, a different kind of wildlife. The throttle jerkiness, was it cable or fly-by-wire? Easily manageable, I was taught to ride the clutch rather than on/off throttle control, especially in traffic. What's with the one handed 70mph? Jeez I'm gripping on for dear life at that point, not a fan of motorway riding, maybe it's all just too new for me, but I'm happier blasting around country lanes. Always thought that model looked great, the yellow is eye-catching but yes I agree, it would be interesting to see it in different but still bright colour ways. Seems a powerful enough machine to me, not sure about with a pillion though, if only you had a willing volunteer to hand 🤔 High exhaust though, don't like those, it's not a scrambler so why? It does look fun and definitely lightweight to chuck about. I'm surprised you mentioned not flat footing on a Speed 400, I could when I sat on one, maybe not the 400x though, which I didn't sit on. I'm a 30" inside leg trouser size, it's not only the seating position but when the pillion seat is higher, it's one hell of a leg swing 😅

[@MindfulMotorcyclist]

Hi Lee, the one handed I'd not normally do of course 😅 but I'd strapped on the bag containing my camera gear to the rear seat and I was terrified if it fell off on motorway it would be run over straight away and £1k+ lost. The perils of being a KZbinr! It wouldn't be a good bike for me and Suzie and luggage I don't think, too small. Lovely city bike... thanks for the comment Lee 👍 😀

[@PeterHolland-mu7yn]

Typical BMW / Audi driver “I’m coming through” out the way ! 30bhp for town use 🤣🤣🤣 in the uk I could blitz most cagers on my mildly tuned 8-9bhp Vespa px 125, I had for a couple of years a BMW 310R (which spent most of its time in the dealers, new engine,massive electrical problems) which is in this class stonking motor (before it went pop) but if they are now sorted good fun, I quite like this bike we have them here but under a different name good vid Sean cheers, …. Pete🇫🇷

[@MindfulMotorcyclist]

I thought that Pete, charged through and then argued that I'm wrong 😂. Funny looking back on it. I expect you could've blitzed folk on the vespa but now they've all got PCP Teslas that do 0-60 in 3.5s 😂. I quite liked the look of the little 310 BMW, perhaps in adventure guise. I chap I know had a 410 himalayan but said BMW offered him such a deal on the 310GS that he couldn't say no, thousands off apparently. Perhaps they don't sell? I'm not sure. I love a lightweight adventure bike! Anyway I'm rambling, thanks for the comment 👍 ☺️

[@exeterrider]

I think its worth reporting because he was such a prat about it, so he needs to learn thats not acceptable. Nice little bike that,if they do their bit correctly it should sell quite well.

[@MindfulMotorcyclist]

Yes it would have made a difference he'd said sorry or what not. Does reporting do anything in your experience?

[@exeterrider]

@@MindfulMotorcyclist never reported anyone. In this case I expect it won't be worth it because nothing serious happened I guess, also second thoughts your on the Internet, so if he sees you out sometime, would it be worth it!? Technically no serious offences committed I guess.

[@John_Wilson513]

For me, the bike has many plus points, but sadly the awful mudguard ruins its utility in UK. Also the high silencer puts the bike out of consideration as I always use soft saddlebags.

[@MindfulMotorcyclist]

Good point about the high silencer, I'd prefer and standard if a little upswept exhaust end can. I also like soft luggage. It does have a substantial heat shield on the silencer but probably not worth the risk...

[@anthonybrown4874]

SUV drivers are the worst they feel invulnerable in their tin tanks, quite like the Voge look a few things I would prefer different longer front mudguard and a touring screen just to guide the wind round the body a bit. What's running costs look like serv costs mpg etc.

[@rockclima]

Another Car driver who is not paying attention it's 2 lanes before and after not the point where he was Sean it's always been a bad junction that, Nice bike for the money I see it takes only E5 ? Their seems to be lots of bikes around now for shorter riders nice review 👍

[@MindfulMotorcyclist]

Thanks Rockclima, and yes this says e5 but it ran on e10 when I tried it, no warning lights or whatnot. It's a lovely small nippy bike but not good for luggage, you'd have to wear a backpack I guess...

[@luddite6239]

You got a nice name-check from The Bingley Wheeler in his video earlier today.

[@MindfulMotorcyclist]

I just watched that, nice of Dave. We are lucky in that the smaller channels do support each other and if you mention them they will do the same. The bigger subscribers people this doesn't happen as much...

[@hectorshouse7348]

What’s not to like.. Low weight 40hp Good looks Low price

[@MindfulMotorcyclist]

My thoughts exactly Hector!

[@Fiji_chi]

You should come back to puerto escondido with the xr150, i'd love to ride with you

[@MindfulMotorcyclist]

Hey! Nice to hear from someone from Puerto! I loved it there, so vibrant and alive with the culture, excellent food and stunning weather and beaches! Thanks for the comment! Best, Sean

[@javierc2726]

Use your right hand and brake. Horn won't avoid a collision

[@peterlobb6456]

I hate modern four strokes, so heavy and slow. My 1989 TZR250 weighs128 kg and puts out over 45 BHP. That's progress I suppose! The trouble with these small capacity bikes is that you can easily get something that weighs the same but puts out a lot more power, 1999 SV650= 165kg / 70BHP.

[@volt8684]

I thought there was enough room for the bmw to pull out however he should have been grateful. There was sufficient width and he didn’t welly it was quite cautious. However, I F hate bmw/audi drivers wether I am in a car, mcycle, push bike

[@sanatandharma4435]

I really do not like the back end! Why don't they just give it a rear mud guard? And for that matter, a decent front one aswell?

[@2wheeledwillie395]

Great review mate....Ignorant drivers!! 😡 but you have to feel sorry for him,hes clearly lacking in the trouser snake department!!

[@MindfulMotorcyclist]

Hahaha well said Willie 👏 👍

[@LordTarbicus9497]

I thought we’d got the new cycling mikey, fair play I’d have lost my cool with that idiot. Another great video 😊

[@MindfulMotorcyclist]

Thanks Dave 👍. Will 'reporting' this have any outcome? Many comments saying report the person I didn't know that was a thing 😄

[@LordTarbicus9497]

@@MindfulMotorcyclist don’t really know but I’ll send you a link to send the video too

[@MindfulMotorcyclist]

Thanks Dave 👍

[@simonward3221]

Your right of way what a BMW driver. On the phone probably.

[@loki1066]

That's a great looking bike, I'll bet Yamaha are grinding their teeth🤣

[@zdendaderman5253]

BMW driver. I wouldn't expect anything less.

[@hectorshouse7348]

Start at 5:10 for confrontation and comment

[@MindfulMotorcyclist]

Everyone wants to see the drama 😂

[@hectorshouse7348]

@@MindfulMotorcyclist I know lol…thought it’d make commenting on it more convenient 😃👍

[@SS-ck3ew]

In traffic (especially so!) people are inherently stoooopid. Be it in a car, on a motorbike or just walking. People can be idiots. Perhaps it is somewhere in their DNA but more than likely it's embedded deeeeep within another 3 letter component: Their EGO. In the mid '60s this Voge would've been a fairly big, fast motorbike and the speed limits here in Amurica were 65 mph on our freeways and the usual 25 to 35 mph in towns with a mixture of 40 mph elsewhere. And yes, people broke the law back then by speeding just like they have for decades past and present. This Voge would have fit right in back then and still does. In England you have a tiered licensing program so you fine folks get a LOT more choice across the board and as such are never bored with your choices. Voge makes some decent motorbikes and if you keep in mind that the more han a few of the ChiCom (communist Chinese) manufacturers are in about the same place as the Japanese were in the early '60s, albeit with far more advanced products, then you realize just what a heck of a deal their offerings really are. I would prefer traditional twin clocks for instrumentation but the market demands this type of setup. And because of the tiered licensing in place, that market in England is primarily young folks. Its looks are geared toward the modern times in which it is set. It looks cool. It looks modern. It looks to be a fairly quality piece. It does NOT look like crap in your video. It looks fine and not just fine for the money, please believe me. i very much enjoyed this look at yet another brand we do not get in these United States of America. Too bad for us and great for Britain! Thank you so very much, my friend! SS in commiefornia, USA.

[@MindfulMotorcyclist]

Great comment SS thank you 😊.

[@Dawnwake57]

your height ?

[@MindfulMotorcyclist]

180cm I think 5'10''

[@christianweller4288]

Bad emerge, so report…. he’ll probably get offered a driver awareness course, but will always remember why. Aggression like that is usually as a result of getting caught in the wrong and only having the maturity of a 7 year old to deal with the consequences.

[@MindfulMotorcyclist]

Agreed Christian. Does reporting do anything? Have you done that before?

[@christianweller4288]

@@MindfulMotorcyclist Most police forces in the UK now have online reporting for dangerous driving/mobile phone use etc.London cyclists seem to use the system very effectively with NIPs being issued within 2 weeks.

[@magicobject]

Not your fault, but you could see it coming - he's in 2 tonnes of killing machine and clearly is completely clueless, so act accordingly. You have one parameter you can control and that's you. Assume they're going to pull out, back off, don't pick a fight. Your most important ride is the one after the one you're currently on.

[@MindfulMotorcyclist]

I agree, hindsight is a wonderful thing. I should have just braked hard. When your talking and riding occasionally things go awry... cheers.

[@justkidding9751]

Yeh, typical bad drivers I'm afraid, if you had been a car he would have definitely not pulled out. Unfortunately this is the mentality of car drivers today, it seems almost as if they just expect the motorcyclist to move over for them because their needs are greater. Police don't drive around looking for bad drivers anymore, they are only interested in road tax and insurance status, even vehicles with lights missing or not working are no longer stopped but they will stop you if your number plate isn't readable 😂

[@LiamE69]

Not your fault but you could have been more defensive and not fought for position once it was clear he was intent on forcing his way out. Put your safety ahead of being right.

[@MindfulMotorcyclist]

I could, hindsight is a wonderful thing as the saying goes...

[@nockianlifter661]

40bhp ? Probably 30 bhp on a 300.

[@MindfulMotorcyclist]

It's output is 40hp.

[@ktkace]

the BETTER cb350 / CB300R

[@volt8684]

20 odd hp really. Not a chance