Voice Teacher Analyzes JINJER - Perennial (Live at Wacken Open Air 2019)

[@erakattack]

My brother was their tour manager for their first US tour. He said she nailed it consistently every night. The whole band seems really well-rehearsed from every live video I've seen.

[@petegrusky2715]

@LiverHook Placed Try Igorrr and Parpaing. George the Neck goes great as usual, in that song. Tati and Jinjer are f**king amazing... Ukraine - one love

[@VerchielxKanda]

She's not "pushing for it" cause it's the last song. She's tired. The band's tired. But she's still doing such an amazing job.

[@Oh_its_Mike]

I'm really glad you're into metal because there's just so many super talented people pushing the limits of human capability in these genres.

[@cuntcrusher9546]

b4nny?

[@xngel_7]

Exactly!

[@joelgillaspy9558]

COULDN'T AGREE MORE...

[@SvenTviking]

I reckon there will be a sudden plague of vocal chord polyps amongst the “death grunters”, and it will go way outta fashion.

[@Oh_its_Mike]

@@SvenTviking Yeah, you have no idea what you're saying.

[@AnvilandScribe]

From 1st hand experience, she absolutely does NOT lip sync. She is just that good.

[@gtrsean2429]

I saw Jinjer live two days ago. The harmony vocals were added in post production. They are not used live. The only effects used are the same that every singer has live and in the studio. Compression and some reverb/delay. Tatiana is extremely talented. That's all her.She doesn't need nor use any electronic help for her growls/screams or singing.

[@ulver1187]

Nice objective statement

[@Sunfrancysco]

In fact, there is an interview with bassist from Jinjer where he pointed that they actually add back-vocal parts also live. And it make her job even harder as she must match harmony every time perfectly;

[@gtrsean2429]

Here is a bootleg vid of the same performance reacted to by Sam.Guess what? No backing vocal tracks. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mYi9i6xma9p3absm57s As I said. They were added in post production. Maybe they have used backing vocal tracks in the past. Dunno. I just haven't heard them in any live vid I've seen.There certainly were not any backing vocal tracks at the Jinjer show I saw a few days ago. Peace.

[@chupasaurus]

@@gtrsean2429 It's a band's choice to use them or not. For some venues it would be way easier to mess the mix if there are problems with the acoustics, and it's a PITA to level the volume.

[@gtrsean2429]

My comments were about the performance of Perennial reacted to by Sam. I proved my comments to be true buy posting the same performance filmed/recorded from a fan. It "did not" have the backing vocals. The backing vocals in that vid were added later in post production. That's all.This isn't a debate if backing tracked vocals are cool or not cool to use live. : )

[@Shadowcat31]

I love Sam's "stank face" when he is into the music 😂

[@lefthook4878]

Jinjer puts stank face on everyone who hears them lol

[@redhotchilifan98]

Typical when your listening to Tatiana

[@californiumkineticsoup367]

Shhh.... He can hear you.

[@jayvalle50]

Beat me to it

[@ra2378]

Stank face! Limp Biscuit cover band name! Called it.

[@lebourreau7177]

Lip synching in rock or metal is the quickest way to end one's career.

[@Landcervelatwurst]

or you deal with it the Iron Maiden way kzbin.info/www/bejne/fGHHnmaOmspnaNE

[@kevinwalsh691]

I saw jinjer in philly in a bar that could fit just about 50 people in it. Believe me, she is making everyone of those sounds live.

[@kpag3030]

and remember... that was the last song of their show. She did a whole show before this song. Crazy.

[@Bhavyagautam2002]

Agreed many vocalists get fatigued after the performance.

[@kkilljoy1830]

Tatiana is my voice idol-- her growls are incredible and cleans are so, so nice. So glad they're blowing up more and more

[@stephaniemcdowell1010]

I saw Jinjer live this past Thursday in a very, VERY small venue and she sounds just like this, if not better. When she did "I Speak Astronomy" it gave me chills. It was awesome. She's an amazing front woman.

[@Demiigodd]

her screams are 100% legit, she can go as deep or as high as you hear, when you develop a safe technique it is almost effortless, yeah obviously delay and tiny effects can make it sound even cooler but is not like she needs it

[@eternalwizard776]

This! I couldn’t figure out how to phrase this in my comment but effortless is the right word! That’s how I feel with my harsh vocals now. They come out so easy and I could do that super loud all day without fatiguing my voice whereas I feel trying to belt just as long with be exhausting. It’s definitely a lot more effortless once you’re used to doing harsh vocals.

[@FrigginTyler]

"Around the D, under the A" - Sam Johnson

[@renten3718]

Rofl

[@STB_666]

Dirty boy! Dirty dirty dirty!

[@Online-Entity]

@LorenzoVonMatterhorn No, the spot is the G ;)

[@King_Gaiseric]

This actually made me laugh out loud thnx 😂

[@kpag3030]

Tyler Webb Yessss. Well done

[@evkurywczak6201]

"hi I'm Sam Johnson😁 and I'm a reborn metalhead"

[@just.some.dud3]

As an audio guy also with tons of live experience to echo other sentiments, I hear three things: compression, EQ and delay. Maybe a smidge of reverb too. Honestly it’s pretty standard live vocal stuff. Great video as always Sam!!

[@Module79L]

Ikr, Jeff? Yet some people are always trying to come up with the most ridiculous insinuations that something else other than Tatiana is producing those sounds.

[@billwallace1177]

Peasants. But hey, if the artist and techs are killing it to give the magic and illusion of something far beyond... we nailed it.

[@mutleyeng]

yeah its all pretty standard live vocal processing, but, there is some double track vocal added post production too - dont think that was at all on any of the harsh though

[@Whitenoise4061]

Just watched the video, same background. Was going to say the same.

[@MaynardsSpaceship]

She's such an amazing frontwoman. Undeniable power!

[@AaronJ9610]

Love these. Especially when its my preferred genre of music! And I love it even more when I see it as soon as its uploaded

[@Hailz12211]

Me too!

[@facundogotmand8368]

Try to lip sync in a metal concert and get out alive if you can.

[@johickey3158]

everybody is lovely until that shit happens :)

[@Kabz8]

Seriously. It would ruin a band.

[@PatrickRocker1983]

@@Kabz8 didn't break lordy...

[@mrdeathamore]

in reality, most people don't pay attention to things like this, people just getting a good time. artist can be totally fake (I'm not saying Tanya is "fake"), but still people will enjoy that in "live" environment, especially considering most people getting drunk on concerts :D

[@petegrusky2715]

80's metal video clips!

[@leiannesw4926]

Im not familiar with JINJER, I was shocked by what came out first lol. Will definitely look into them. Great analysis Sam. I appreciate that you refer out and say when you are not comfortable with something. True professional

[@redhotchilifan98]

They are one of the most talented metal bands ive seen

[@ciarfah]

They're quite fantastic, the Pisces live recording was the first video I say and needless to say I was surprised when she moved from clean vocals to growls

[@brittanyr4283]

Jinjer is absolutely amazing. Easily became my favorite metal band the first time I heard them.

[@FzNd]

I'd recommend their live performance of *I Speak Astronomy* at the Summer Breeze festival (should be on youtube). Not only is this band absurdly talanted on all musical fronts, but Tatiana also has an immensely captivating stage presence and that particular performance shows that off really well.... well... pretty much all of their live performances do, but that one's a standout to me ;)

[@Lyander25]

Another Jinjer video? Hold a sec I need popcorn for this. Haven't checked out their new music yet, this'll be a first.

[@Lyander25]

@@evkurywczak6201 hope so! I only learned of Jinjer from Sam's reaction and analysis of Pisces some months back so I'm still pretty new to the band. So far? Very impressed

[@evkurywczak6201]

Kevin A. Groove and reggae influence for sure but still NASTAYYYYYY

[@Lyander25]

@@evkurywczak6201 HAH nasty in the best possible way yeah. I'm actually a total philistine when it comes to reggae but I might actually explore the genre now that I'm getting into it.

[@kirstenbakker839]

Also, check out their song Teacher Teacher. Good stuff.

[@Lyander25]

@@kirstenbakker839 think I saw that pop up on their Instagram haha. Will make time for it later- thanks!

[@TonyTeegarden]

BOOM! Love that you’re reacting to a live performance of her.

[@lucacommonjay7894]

I think it's silly how people are so obsessed by whether vocalists are using some type of effects on their voice. Esp in metal. You wouldn't be that upset if a guitarist used distortion, or when the orchestral track wasn't produced by an actual on stage orchestra? The voice is another instrument in this mix, and sometimes it needs an extra layer or effect to give it that added power. You re still a skilled musician...

[@alexstroud3615]

I thought it was only effects that change the pitch of voices that people hate/think is cheating. I've never heard people moaning about the standard delay/reverb that is added to virtually every singer in virtually every genre of live music.

[@jennaln]

YES I have never clicked on a notification so quickly. I have been hoping you would react to her performing this song since its release! My sister saw Jinjer live at Download this year and said she sounded very similar (like a badass were her exact words!). She is simply amazing!

[@Goblue1121]

Sam has AWESOME metal face. Straight berserker my man!

[@Thinchap]

Did he just say making fuck?

[@thejman4257]

Out of all the vocal coach videos i see I think you are the best. Props!

[@DollyPopCorp]

I was there for this set and they totally ruled the whole day. Incredible live!

[@davidrussell4741]

I have watched many vocal coach reactions, and you've had the best analyses that I have come across. You make the most sense of all that I have seen.

[@heathermiller76]

Love you so much, Sam.... I've always been afraid to sing, only singing to my girls at bedtime and because of you, i don't give a damn anymore and I drive everyone insane and LOVE IT! I've found the joy of singing! Thanks so much!

[@pakoken]

Me too Heather!!! I still can't sing normally in front of people but I'll get there too ❤

[@0num4]

I don't typically like growling vocals...but I really like hers. She's something else.

[@TotalxTroll25k]

I think a lot of it is that she is articulate within it. I would say I understand about the same amount of the growls and screams that I do clean and its really impressive.

[@ottogofast3882]

Probably because the way the song is structured between screams and cleans, it breaks up the monotony of the extreme music. Makes hardcore music more accessible to the mainstream. Jinjers unique song structures are what really make them shine.

[@GrizzlyVN]

Love seeing another JINJER video! You should react to Serj Tankian

[@rofyle]

In an interview she said she began taking vocal lessons at 8, and she began her professional career in her teens by singing for a punk band. She definitely knows what she's doing, and if you look at any of Jinjer's tour schedules you'll see that she's been doing this night after night for years on end.

[@Karen-vf8no]

I will never not watch a jinjer video by THE SAM JOHNSON

[@petegrusky2715]

You sound delirious, to an Englishman...

[@Karen-vf8no]

Pete Grusky fight me

[@petegrusky2715]

@@Karen-vf8no I'm not an English person, but "never not" sounds very confusing. ;)

[@Karen-vf8no]

Pete Grusky whats your managers phone number? I’d like to speak to them

[@Guttr._.GrrL69]

@@Karen-vf8no what's YOUR manager's phone number? 🤔

[@Karen-vf8no]

This song actually made me shed a tear before. Not even the clean part, it was so damn dirty and crazy that I couldn’t help but get super into it

[@202d]

I just saw them last night. Small venue. Her voice is *so* solid, even live, every time, every song, every note. She has hella talent.

[@imcherylynn]

Tatiana is such a big talent, I’m glad Jinjer is beginning to grow in popularity in the world of Metal. Their tour regiment is definitely bigger than I believe it was before “Pisces” started making the rounds. Hopefully it won’t affect her live sound too much with how often they’re performing live now.

[@j.f.fisher5318]

I worry about them burning out. 130 performances last year and 150 this year.

[@imcherylynn]

Jeffrey Fisher yeah, that is another concern. I know it happens when a band rapidly gains popularity, but I hope that they’ll give themselves a break every now and then so they don’t burnout.

[@Joshuahall228]

The thought of her lip syncing never crossed my mind. And still doesn’t.

[@pauloalexandre-dd4nl]

She does not . I know

[@MitchellWiggs]

How am I just now finding your channel?? You’re so much fun to watch

[@frankshanks9726]

Seen them live literally a few feet from her next to stage. She is legit.

[@patrickbole6571]

There are a few bootlegs of Jinjer’s performance at Wacken, and it DOES NOT include the back tracking. Her voice is still very rich, especially for the mediocre audio quality of the bootlegs, but the secondary vocals are added in post. Napalm Records, who posted the video, added the studio backings to the vocals after the show specifically for the video.

[@nerwent1203]

One more group to add to the 'To Listen' list. Thank you! And I love that you enjoy this so much. When I tell my friends I watch a Voice Teacher KZbin channel, they think it's all classical music for some reason. Why though? Why? Ugh... You're great!

[@zinniaeridano7782]

On an interview, that you can watch on youtube, Eugene (the bassist) mentions that there's a delay and reverb effect on Taiana's vocals, she also says "I think they mean if I do other stuff to sound like this not the effects on the general voice sound" and she then proceeds to explain that it is through technique that she actually won't recommend to try without technique and that she developed her sound through time. Once mentioned that, Tatiana doesn't do lipsync. I have seen them live three times, she has the ability that she shows and reach deep and high notes on the range without problem. She does sound less clean when live than this one (you can check videos on their tour and live sessions from fans) but you have to count that his was f*ing Wacken Open Air and that this is actually the clip from the Wacken page which has post production in ALL cases. On concert you can tell there's no backing track with her, just the regular delay and as nobody does chorus for her (no one else sings in the band) there are some phrases added but not the whole song.

[@RitualBlood]

She's not doing false chords (the cookie monster sound) She's actually doing a fry scream, she just has a naturally deep fry. You can tell it's fry scream by the tone of some of it and also because of how long she can scream words without excessive breathing. If she was false chord screaming you have to breathe in air about every 5 words as it requres a lot more air flow.. I recommend looking up "voice hacks" channel on youtube and look for the jinjer video, they have a good way of explaining her vocals.

[@antoinetteheil2585]

Was just about to say this

[@terabit21832]

Facepalmed so much. She is far from an expert. And you messed up, singing on false cords is safe. Fry scream is an elementary designation of a screaming on the vocal cords that does not end well

[@JakePendleton]

I'm 99% sure she's using both 🤷‍♂️

[@jen.g.]

INSTANT LIKE. Would love to see you analyze Einar of Leprous!

[@PainofRazeration]

Jen G. Yeeesssssssssssss! Such an unique voice.

[@stevesorrell9835]

Wow! Had never heard of them before. Absolutely amazing! Thank you 👍🏻

[@cebadillae]

That would be awesome! Einar voice is just amazing

[@illlanoize23]

I can do it here: A fuck ton of falsetto and a good natural vibrato voice

[@9IstarotH6]

Yeeees!! Leprous please!!

[@SoulFullOfMusic81]

They are currently on North American tour, so there are already a lots of not that great private recordings from cameras and phones, but you can still hear she's legit!

[@Module79L]

There's also a "raw" recording of this Wacken concert, filmed right in front of the P.A. You can hear Tatiana's voice pretty well and it's not that much different from this more "produced" version. : )

[@redhotchilifan98]

Really sad i couldn't get tickets

[@Carrera26]

Saw them in a tiny 700 person club in Mesa. Absolutely killer show.

[@kirstyferguson6645]

"Not me. Someone who knows what they are doing with this." Excellent advice.

[@ikarosouza9505]

always good to see a jinjer react video

[@j.f.fisher5318]

I saw them last Wednesday and they were great. Your Pisces reaction was my first exposure to Jinjer - so thanks for that! :D as to what she can naturally do with her growls, there are some old bootlegs uploaded before they even had a record label that sound utterly awesome. My favorite being the cover of Lamb Of God's "Laid To Rest" uploaded by NosSam in summer 2012.

[@bubbles3161]

SAM Jinjer is awesome ! She has so many voices she's a natural really great singer so much depth and tone beautiful voice i have worked with a lot of singers over the years she is amazing and yes i agree the sound system has a lot to do with it but who cares she has found something that works for her and her band and it's awesome. Something about this woman i can't put my finger on it but she is really something special i get a really good feeling when i hear her voice i'm a huge fan. I find music pretty boring as a whole i'm 50yrs old and she has brought back evoked a feeling me that i have not had in 20yrs. She is the real deal i agree she is a great performer.

[@soye.carmin]

FINALLY WE HAVE BEEN BLESSED BY SAM ONCE AGAIN 😍

[@carlbrown939]

After seeing them in concert a few days ago.I can't say I recall any of the harmonies I've heard in the video here.The sound was great but not as polished as this video. There wasn't any lipsyncing at the show. You could hear her take breaths and her voice would change a bit with certain movements etc.The switch from clean to growl/fry was seamless. I'm not saying she isn't getting any help from the sound board but just emphasizing that she's the real deal and that her voice is consistently performing at this level. As always I enjoy your videos. Thanks for doing what you do sir.

[@lateralusDan]

The intro of the song and the harmonies are taken from the original track. Yes. But the reverb you feel in the microphone is not a "computer effect" is processed inside the actual microphone.

[@LuisRdzG10]

I heard her (Tatiana) said in an interview that she only growls when she sings a song. Not exercises or fancy techniques for taking care of her vocal cords than that.

[@guitar_noodle]

I'm thinking boosted gain in the mic, delay, reverb, could even have a sustainer on it. These days you can get all those effects on a computer but also stomp boxes or rack units. pretty sure the harmonies are coming from a backing track. They've got ear pieces in and I'm sure they're playing to a metronome so when the backing tracks sync perfectly. Complex bands do that a lot. Nightwish has some videos where the sound guys show you whats happening behind the scenes like effects, backing tracks, its all mapped out on the computer through logic or pro tools.

[@Module79L]

It's no secret that Jinjer use backing tracks, you can hear them in their live performances of I Speak Astronomy, Words Of Wisdom or Captain Clock. Vlad has a laptop right beside him for a reason. : ) But they never use vocal backing tracks live. In this case the vocal harmonies were added in post, they're not present in the "raw" live recording of this concert.

[@AtticsTV]

They do use backing tracks. So harmonies that were recorded, as well as the second guitars.

[@romanianguy90]

Seeing them in 9 days. Can't wait!!!

[@juliannieves962]

Im goin this Thursday!!!!

[@rickyshope8406]

Fun fact: in a recent interview she said she doesn't actually do a real range warm up. She does sing some Bob Marley type tracks just to mentally prepare for the stage. While probably not the smartest choice, she always delivers.

[@dustinropp]

8:50 ive seen her live, that song has 2 tracked parts to make it sound more like the album version. The very beginning and this part

[@lcali7496]

10:22 LOL he just went from Patrick Star to Squidward

[@comically_large_chungus]

Sam's face when he's into the metal lmao

[@deadhead_012]

Completely correct Sam. If making these sounds hurt, you are doing it very wrong. Im by no means at her level, I've just taught myself over the past few years. It does not hurt one bit and can be done by every person on this planet. Its a very primal sound. Its the same sound baby make with a wailing cry. But as we learn to speak, we forget to use what most extreme vocalists call our false chords and we forget how to make that sound.

[@xBaphometHx]

The harmonies that sound when she sings the clean parts are pre-recorded, but she sings the "main" voice live.

[@camillalys]

This.Woman.Is.So.Amazing.

[@xilliaz]

I seen a video of them live in a basement bar in Germany in 2017 and she sounds pretty damn close to this, amazing.

[@krzysztofmedyna3661]

Sam, you are my favorite voice teacher to experience watching. You give us so much more in your analysis than most others I stumble across. Thanks so much for giving us a deeper look into the world that you love so much!

[@heyitsmekasey]

Her vocals are UNREAL!!!!! You introduced me to this band! Can you please analyze Kimbra singing Plain Gold Ring live at Sing Sing Studios? I think you'll really enjoy it and I would love to hear your thoughts on her performance!

[@_Hitechlowlife]

The part that starts around 8:32 Onward... The studio version of the track has a harmonic backing vocal that kicks in a few seconds later which is also present here. Not really an effect they're trying to hide or anything, it's just an actual part of the song.

[@MRDARKTURKEY]

Saw an interview with her where she says she doesn’t do a warm up, at all..... ever!

[@MaynardsSpaceship]

😮🤯

[@MrJonne2000]

Some athletes do hardly any either. So it could be true

[@maiastraa]

Same with Angela

[@chrisrantell7898]

Does a lion limber up before taking down a gazelle?

[@ottogofast3882]

She’s probably always warm, besides first thing in the morning. If you’re a singer/vocalist at the top of your game in one of the most complex genres of music you sing every single day, she’s probably always practicing. How else will you get better at that point in your career?

[@Zenshu1]

According to Tatiana in an interview, they use tracks pre-recorded by her and layered under the live mic to achieve that reverb and harmony sound in their songs.

[@deepdarkmidnight]

I can tell for this singer, along with Alissa White-Gluz and Angela Gossow. They don't hurt (or -didn't hurt-, since Angela doesn't sing anymore) their voices in any way by screaming. Arch Enemy goes on touring for months with 20, 30 gigs, several of them in consecutive days and the singer is just fine. Healthy screaming doesn't damage the voice at all when doing properly and it can be done in the long term like any other kind of singing.

[@kenny240]

I’m glad to see someone who understands how difficult it is to make some of these sounds, and how they’re made. One of the reasons Tatiana can switch back and forth between the cleans and screams so quickly and “effortlessly”, is due to the relaxation that was pointed out in the beginning. Tension tends to lead more towards a standard fry-scream, which can be harmful. But she’s using false chords/folds to get the distortion in a relaxed, easy manner. I know she has said she hurts her voice sometimes, but in general, it’s gotta be relatively healthy if she can still do it daily 10 years down the road.

[@j.fernandes6585]

There is an original harmony track in the background, but only in the higher register notes. The rest is simply compression and reverb/delay.

[@MrWrgh]

The song is defending it's beauty ..even after this technical deconstruction ..he knows how , they simply did it ...

[@MikeThePole]

I'm no expert but I will say this - maybe it's just myself, but I feel like a lot of people would lean towards instant negative judgment discovering that a band uses heavy computer manipulation on a live performance and say it's cheating and what not. You do a great thing embracing it and differentiating the vocal technique from the cosmetics put to improve the performance.

[@vetlerradio]

It's just different effects channels used to add things like reverb, compression and such. People thinking this is cheating are delusional.

[@gutrhero2]

Its post production so if you were there live it wouldn't have these effects

[@aamiw99]

8:53 it didn't sound like that live at all. They just do post-editing for the video. Napalm themselves posted it on their channel. The other fan recorded videos don't have any studio recording on top of her voice in their shows. Also, if you didn't know, not only doesn't she warm up, she's a smoker too.

[@Deth_Kitty]

The lead singer from Avenged Sevenfold is a good example. When you listen from the first album to current you can tell the first album recorded after he blew out his vocal cords from pushing his voice.

[@pgryllos]

I happened to be in a band that played a festival in Romania ~7 ago. They played also at that festival (they were not anywhere near as famous as they are now). We were stunned by how amazing she sounded live - and they are such a mature band now :)

[@Ellieb94]

Love Jinjer cant wait to see them in Oct!

[@johnfish8208]

Love Jinjer 😁👍👍 so talented

[@andrewbranson8539]

What a goddess. Really enjoy your videos, Sam!

[@thebelievers11]

I love how you get into instant headbang angry metal face mode when she starts singing

[@MephistoRolling]

You haven't done Love, hate, love yet by Alice in chains. Love to hear your take on it.

[@wdkaye]

definitely a backing track, every bad member has an earpiece, but I don’t think she’s lip-syncing. there is enough variation between live performances

[@mattkemerait]

Her voice is so sick. She puts a lot of male Metal singers to shame in the scream department. And I've NEVER heard her have an off performance. I really enjoyed your breakdown!

[@Puppet33]

Mattycakes what male metal vocalist does she put to shame in the screaming department?

[@herrpye]

Like VarjoMedia said, LOTS of compression, delay and verb for thickness. If they were adding backing growls she'd have a hard time matching the tone and you'd be able to tell there were two distinct voices overlapping. Also, the mic cupping introduces extra gain/mid focus, while simulating a bit of low and high pass filtering for that lo fi radio tone. She does layer her screams for emphasis on the albums, but mostly in a stereo low guttural style to get that extra meanness under a part for dramatic effect/eeeveelness. Otherwise, she's the frickin goods. One of the most savage out there.

[@shanefoleyyyyy]

Peter Gabriel - In Your Eyes ( secret world tour)

[@rx7dude2006]

With Paula Cole.

[@guitarsnstrings4things677]

I love your reaction videos! Also very informative - thank you

[@davelanciani-dimaensionx]

There are Vocal Harmonizer effects available, but they don't usually sound very natural. So I'm guessing they are playing with some backing tracks, but I do not think she is "correcting" her live vocals, just adding some reverb/delay, and maybe some compression and limiting to level out the volume. Her pitch is a little off here and there, but that's okay, it sounds real.

[@Alonzas]

It's a post produced recording, there is a video on youtube with Bass player of Jinjer he is talking about how they are doing this, and yes they play with a backing track, thats why you hear more than one voice in some places.

[@adjudicator_vs]

Jinjer's bassist told that they have some kind of hidden track with octave difference. And Tatiana is singing along with it, but with octave difference, if i understood correctly. It's basically useless to link the interview cause it's on Russian, but if you're interested check Hellscream academy's channel for interview. Upd: Just looked in comments, and i suppose it's called harmony vocals

[@zerozeeros]

I see Jinjer I click. May I suggest a Dan Tompkins track from Tesseract/White Moth Black Butterfly Or Elnar from Leprous

[@UndeadSasuke34]

I was at a festival in my country where leprous and Tesseract sang in the same night:)) the ticket was like 25 euros, and i ve seen many other local bands

[@locrian8557]

To your question Sam: There are live harmony generators that are very good, but AFAIK the software involved must be told the key of the song, and probably the chord as well (as far as I know, either you feed audio from a keyboard for example, and it makes it's best guess, or it'd have to be programmed say, to the tempo map/click track of the song), but I really don't think they're quite on the level of how those harmonies sounded, someday haha, but they definitely sounded like backing tracks to me. Plus all the other effects going on that you mentioned. Autotune Live is getting so good, and backing tracks so acceptable currently (especially with modern metal bands), when I see a metal/rock performance like this, I can be pretty certain that there was a lot of both going on here. It was just too perfect to me, even besides the obvious harmonies. I'm all for it, makes for a great show, which is the entire point of course.

[@doctorthemoworm]

I just got back from seeing Jinjer live in Dallas, and they for sure use some backing tracks from their studio recordings (such as the opening dialogue from Perennial), but it's definitely not lip-syncing and I doubt sincerely that there's anybody off-stage doing any of the screaming/singing as some claim.

[@junky5627]

Wow a vocal teacher actually ANALYZING jinjers performance! You actually know what you are talking about. Not just watch and say wow she's amazing and that omg how does she do that lol. I appreciate your opinions and your analysis of this performance. Lots of good tips and insights. Keep at it bro. 🤘🏻

[@keepXonXrockin]

You should come to Wacken some day, make it a vacation :D

[@lavenderllamamusic]

More Jinjer please! Love your analysis on these

[@pauloalexandre-dd4nl]

There is 3 ways. One effect called doubled .other is harmonizer . And the 3rd is 2nd voice recorded. But jinger uses her effects by plugins connected by midi. So when the track reaches that time. The doubled and harmonized switchs on. You can do the same for guitar so I dont have to do tap dancing with the effects pedals. For the voice even the live voice 3 rack does this . Fyi

[@anbar]

Love the new Instagram Q&A segment!

[@ryanschindler923]

7:40 100% this, more people need to hear this also, they're just playing to a click track thats synced to the studio recording so they can insert a backing vocal track so she can harmonize over it. Bands do this all the time especially when there's more guitar parts than can be played live or vocal harmonies. But in metal, lip syncing is hugely frowned upon so it'd be incredibly rare to see someone doing it.

[@johnfish8208]

Yes pitch shifters doublers can do that but they do use tracks for timing and ti add in some harmonies

[@FHB71]

There is definitely an additional track, you can hear it in the beginning when she turns to drummer and fixes her hair, there is a prelude playing before the song actually starts.