American Rapper FIRST Tim REACTION to JINJER - Perennial (Live at Wacken Open Air 2019)

[@SparkimusPrime]

“This autumn feels like funeral to me The longest song of grief And not for what has passed But for what shall last Exhausted nature is tragic and suicidal! Oh how spectacular she is when she kills herself! Death throes are slowly crawling to her toes As the last leaf is falling off her head I’m here with her undressed With a few petals on my breasts We shared opiates and let the landscaped do the same I love your warmth but yet prefer to sleep in cold alone We fixed our eyes up to the sky To see a flight send us farewell Goodbye! May we see each other next time So please, come back to celebrate this festival of life! Then as now fly! Today you reached the point of no return Now cry! And then die! Tomorrow I will meet you with your cells restored Annual tradition of mass destruction In the name of total reconstruction My biggest source of confusion The reason of decay and disillusion Under permanent ice we found breathless paradise No, we’re not dead No, we’re not dead Just enjoying coma From the ashes of my roots the new me will rise to live again This is poetry of youth, this is poetry of me and you!”

[@texasnewt]

Enlightening: thank you for sharing.🙂

[@justinatest9456]

Some of Tatiana's best lyrics imo. She uses the term perennial in the same way as Don did - the seasonal spring rebirth, after a winter's death. You guys might not relate, but in colder Northern climates we get less sunlight in the winter due to the tilted axis of the planet, and this leads to a definciency in vitamin D and therefore depression. Plus we're stuck inside due to the extreme cold as well. Being from Ukraine this is something Tatiana would struggle with. Annual tradition of mass destruction In the name of total reconstruction My biggest source of confusion The reason of decay and disillusion Under permanent ice we found breathless paradise No, we’re not dead No, we’re not dead Just enjoying coma From the ashes of my roots the new me will rise to live again This is poetry of youth, this is poetry of me and you She's a poet, writing in her second language. A language two of her bandmates can barely speak just to give you a sense of how foreign it is to them. Very impressive stuff, beyond her amazing vocal ability and the band's great musicianship and songwriting.

[@SparkimusPrime]

And you were not being disrespectful. Many people have that disbelief when they see Pisces.

[@j.f.fisher5318]

The reason I know so much about how growling vocals work is deep diving the subject after discovering their music. And I've compared different bootlegs line by line heh. Cuz I was like 12 or 13 when Milli Vanilli got exposed and what can I say I'm a skeptic. And Tatiana's voice is just so good I needed evidence heh.

[@SparkimusPrime]

@@j.f.fisher5318 And that is completely understandable lol she’s wild af 🖤

[@johncampbell756]

Not believing she is singing both voices is understandable for a newbie. Refusing to accept that it is all her when someone explains how it works veers into disrespect. Most never take it that far. .

[@SparkimusPrime]

They are so incredible live ❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥 This is about Tatiana’s seasonal depression. you guys should do Teacher, Teacher next. I think you’ll really like it. If you read the lyrics and listen again you’ll eventually be able to hear the lyrics more clearly. That was a circle pit lol

[@JohnSheehan72]

YES - Teacher, Teacher live is awesome

[@mrgoatbeard]

Yeah I got to see them live as well...I loved the hell out of the set was so fun to be a part of.

[@jasonhiatt3667]

Hell Yes they are! I saw them in NC not too long ago. One of the best shows I’ve ever been to and one of the best live performances I’ve ever seen

[@j.f.fisher5318]

Tatiana is _definitely_ trouble heh, and hats off to Alex Lopez, I gotta say. The throat tattoo is the face of mesoamerican dragon-god Quetzalcoatl, tattooed across her voicebox and throat chakrawhich is incrediblyappropriate. And yup basically all of their music is from a very dark place, even light stuff like Beggars Dance. Perennial is about Tatiana's chronic depression getting worse in the winter causing self-destructive feelings, and seems like it was written as a reminder that spring will come and she can make it through. Pit Of Consciousness is a deep dive into her mental health struggles. Home Back is about their experiences when their hometown in eastern Ukraine was caugjt in the 2014 war that set the stage for the current invasion. They guys started composing the music for their next album while stuck in Kyiv under siege during the first months of the war and it's said to be very heavy and darkly melodic which I'm incredibly excited for.

[@maxmoller]

Don't worry. Understanding screaming/growling voices takes time. It's something you have to train you ears/mind for. 😊 Pretty cool you acknowledged the rest of the band. Cause they absolutely deserve it. They are freaking talented and their live preformances are so tight, that some people actually thought it was playback. 😂

[@opart]

lol, totally, you know you gotten far, when you understand Meshuggah, Amon Amarth etc.

[@tjhorne82]

Exactly! It's like learning a new language, in a sense.

[@maxmoller]

@@tjhorne82 I always figured it's like, if an american, tries to understand a farmer from Ireland. You might catch a word or two, but not much more 😁

[@tjhorne82]

@maxmoller I'm from eastern NC. I always have people asking if I'm from Australia or the UK. 😄🤣

[@bulleits]

100% this. Took me a long time of listening to rap to catch all the lyrics and metal is the same way. More reason to listen to ALL the metal.

[@michaeldinsen7641]

Jinjer is already legendary. The whole band is absolutely lit!!!

[@Robertsmith-dy3sh]

One of the very best live bands on the planet! So happy to see Jinjer on your channel again! I hope you continue down the Jinjer rabbit hole, there are so many more amazing songs for you to discover! Awesome Reaction!

[@Golf77768]

Thank you for great reaction! They are incredible!

[@meganflick82]

Perennial is my fav Jinjer song. The lyrics are beautifully written about change.

[@narsos6043]

I started listing to this heavy stuff later in life. If you start listening to more of this type of music you start to gain an ear for it and can understand better over time. Reading the lyrics a couple times while it plays also helps if you like the song enough to give it the time.

[@davidcarter5504]

Jinjer is one of my favorite bands. The lyrics are very deep, it’s talking about the way the world is, how the people come and go with the craziness in the world.

[@chevytruckjoe]

I’ve listened to Jinjer for a few years now, with most distorted music/voices it takes a trained ear. Give it time, read some lyrics, and think of the voice as another instrument..much love brothas👊🏼

[@Azureal05]

A good next Jinjer pick for you guys would prolly be "Teacher, Teacher" or "Home Back"

[@Carnage0708]

Teacher teacher is a great popular one they will probably like bc it has some hip hop elements. Home back is a fav of mine bc of the emotion and she goes the lowest I've heard her go in terms of her growing

[@Carnage0708]

Growling*

[@seanemery6019]

Great reaction. I saw them on their recent US tour and they blew me away. Such an awesome band.

[@planetcampervan]

Tats is a force of nature ...an incredible voice and breath control and she screams better than most men and she is tiny ...The band are superb musicians and are very progressive with great dissonance and timing ideas, always been impressed by these guys ....peace

[@LilDevil769]

Omg, I remember my first song that got me to fall in love with them was called - just another ever since then I been hooked on jinjer for a long time ❤️

[@backroadbeetle4781]

The song is really cool lyrically. It's the feeling of autumn, how it's beautiful seeing the season change. But everything dies in the winter and silent. But even though everything seems dead and lost it comes back. She compared the poem to how humans are, how resilient we are and how things will get better. It's remarkably beautiful.

[@AKJACKAL99709]

I'm glad that you mentioned how the band often gets overshadowed by Tatiana. I was just telling a coworker about Jinjer and literally told him that it is too easy to focus in on her unique skillset (without mentioning what that was...LOL.) So I make sure I tell folks that when that happens they have to give that song another listen and pay closer attention to the band. Regarding understanding the growling vocals... Don is correct that sometimes you have to hear a song again to catch some of the words, even for some of us that listen to them all the time. However, for you guys just experiencing the growling vocals, the same rule kind of applies. If you listen to more growling vocals, over time you will start to get better at catching the words. Some folks will have the lyrics pulled up and follow along on a few songs, which can help the brain connect with the audio easier and train your ears.

[@ernonikkola1084]

Plus she does have an accent, more so live than in the studio recordings, that adds another layer (although more minor) of difficulty.

[@attimus103]

If you follow the written lyrics while listening to the singing the words just become crystal clear. It's pretty wild.

[@oleksandrbyelyenko435]

Happy to see you reaction to Ukrainian music. Thank you.🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦

[@j.f.fisher5318]

It took me a few weeks of listening while reading the lyrics before my ears learned to decode the distortion. They have several good lyrics videos like Captain Clock and No Hoard Of Value and if you search Who Is Gonna Be The One sub Spanish" there's a copy of the live video of that song with English and Spanish subtitles and the song is mostly growls.

[@goldenruletv7301]

Tatiana makes the hair stand up on the back of my neck whether it's the growls or the cleans. She is the absolute queen of metal and Vlad, Roman & Eugene are never overlooked by their die hard fans.

[@badm0t0rf1nger]

Tatiana's writing for the extreme vocals is solidly done- she never tries to squeeze too many syllables into too short a passage, & particularly thru growled sections she manages to keep a clarity of diction / pronunciation which is quite remarkable. Unlike most other extreme vocalists, you can make out the majority of what she's saying (once your ear becomes accustomed) instead of my usual sigh-&-reach-for-a-lyrics-sheet moment. They're still the only band with extreme vocals whose music I've spent actual money on, & I got into them initially for the excellent composition of the lads' music & *despite* the vocals.... but integrity is a big thing for me when it comes to music, & it's evident that Tatiana is 100% genuine & "in it" when she's doing her thing on stage, which won me over pretty quick! So much so that Jinjer are now one of my favourite bands out there doing the damn thing!! ;)

[@Mike.daFonz]

Buying tickets this Friday to see them live for a second time. I will never not see them live when they come through town. They're that good

[@MattKrogmeier]

A perennial plant comes back every spring. An annual is one you have to plant each spring.

[@jasmina126]

Lyrics : This autumn feels like funeral to me The longest song of grief And not for what has passed But for what shall last Exhausted nature is tragic and suicidal! Oh how spectacular she is when she kills herself! Death throes are slowly crawling to her toes As the last leaf is falling off her head I’m here with her undressed With a few petals on my breasts We shared opiates and let the landscapes do the same I love your warmth but yet prefer to sleep in cold alone We fixed our eyes up to the sky To see a flight send us farewell Goodbye! May we see each other next time So please, come back to celebrate this festival of life! Then as now fly! Today you reached the point of no return Now cry! And then die! Tomorrow I will meet you with your cells restored Annual tradition of mass destruction In the name of total reconstruction My biggest source of confusion The reason of decay and disillusion Under permanent ice we found breathless paradise No, we’re not dead No, we’re not dead Just enjoying coma From the ashes of my roots the new me will rise to live again This is poetry of youth, this is poetry of me and you!

[@davidsimonds7963]

Glad you returned to do another Jinjer reaction Hope you do a few more.

[@paidguitar]

From the ashes of my roots, the old man, will rise an live again. This is poetry of you! This is poetry of me and you!

[@mikek9297]

Love that part !

[@jesselee128able]

From the ashes i will rise. Or something along those lines. Shes so fire 🔥 like don said, after a few listens you start to hear it more clearly. I love it

[@AnonymousG3R]

Nice reaction. During the C-Pandamic I got a chance to see them live on a concert they gave in germany. Tatiana is killer, bro. Her voice, the switching between growling and normal singing is... It give me goosebumbs all the time. Meanwhile I see them twice in Australia ´cause I moved here and every show is on a top level. They came out of the Ukraine and I support them as good as I can, ´cause they bring me so much joy. 💙💛

[@FahqTyrants]

That woman is my dream girl

[@jeffwellman8347]

The lyrics are quite poetic. The song is about her struggle with Seasonal Affective Disorder (S.A.D.) and how she will return to happiness like the return of the perennial flowers in the spring. It takes awhile to fully grasp growl lyrics, get the lyrics. I recommend "I Speak Astronomy" (OMV) or "Teacher, Teacher" (OMV) as a follow up reaction. Good job. (Subbed)

[@PamelaBuscemi]

I have been a fan of JenJer for awhile. I think their awesome. I'm glad you discovered them.

[@deed5811]

A Perennial plant usually goes dormant in the winter and regrows from its roots in spring. Growling is like a dialect. Listen to it enough, following the lyrics, you start to hear the words over time.

[@nathaniellopez6438]

Demon 😈 growling is her specialty. Her voice is intense 😳 and angelic at the same time.

[@roadkill7314]

The almost non-stop puzzeled look on BP's face through this whole video is priceless! WTF! That's Jinjer.

[@nathanfox3090]

Teacher, Teacher next and Judgment and Punishment ( Vocal one take)

[@travishall6152]

The more you listen to this type of music the more you start to hear the lyrics.

[@Disgustipated8404]

She is Tatiana (sp?) and she is real. Just like her voice haha kinda crazy but she's awesome. Jinjer is awesome if you can handle it. Gotta keep listening and it grows on ya. Keep em coming guys!

[@bugleaf9603]

OMG YAY! youre reacting to jinjer now! i came here for ren but now you’re reacting to my favorite

[@lloyderc]

I ran into her. She’s a absolute sweetheart in person . Very humble . She’s a introvert . So she’s shy .

[@bugleaf9603]

perennial, a flower that dies and comes back, the lyrics are talking about tatiana’s seasonal depression by relating it to the idea of life, death, and rebirth.

[@tweevers2]

Yes indeed ....for decades women have been doing growling vocals.Many black metal and death bands,and extreme metal bands have female growl frontwomen. The earliest I have seen women doing these vocals would probably go back to the early 1980's-late70's in the underground and smaller metal subgeneras. Even punk bands like Plasmatics back in the late 70's had singer Wendy O Williams who would often have their punk songs with her doing some growling vocals .

[@davidhines68]

"Bitte ein Bit" took me back. I first heard it in Trier (near Bitburg) in 1984. I guess a slogan like that endures.

[@beldavius]

Speaking of neck tattoos and being judgemental, react to Judgement & Punishment (One Take Vocal). You won't be disappointed!

[@KvO3-km6or]

I would just love a collab. Of Tatiana and Ren!!! Best collab ever!!!

[@terrydavis7389]

got my tickets to finally see them next month.. cant wait.

[@grinmaul]

Got tickets to see them in Sept in Toronto, can't freaking wait! Also, you might like Infected Rain, they are amazing as well.

[@christina_ellis]

So she and the band have a massive love and influence of Caribbean sounds that get some sprinkling here and there on some early atuff she has a one take vocal video of their song judgement and punishment that had some very amazing sou ds that will make you guys smile ;) I definitly recommend it my guys

[@notu9315]

There are a lot of women in metal, but not many that do it at the same level as Tatiana. And even those that are, most can’t growl and sing at her level, her range in both and the quality of her tone set her among top tier of metal vocalists, of any gender.

[@bellaelana7517]

My favorite song ! 💙💛

[@mattpelofske4632]

She's singing about nature dying every fall and using it as a metaphor for her seasonal depression in winter

[@coder4liberty]

It takes a while to discern the lyrics during the harsh vocals. She does pretty well in comparison to most singers who use the technique but then there are famous songs from pretty much every decade sang cleanly which people mishear the lyrics to. Which is why you can always find lyrics online. This song is about the changing of the seasons and how people get depressed when winter comes and then the depression lifts when it's spring again. The lyric "annual tradition of mass destruction in the name of total reconstruction" is about how nature deconstructs the beauty and then in spring reconstructs it in an endless cycle. Given that the band is from Ukraine those natural cycles are pretty pronounced as they know them. She actually goes even lower in their video Pit of Consciousness Live in Kyiv. Yeah being alone in the house and hearing deep growls would be scary but certainly in the woods at night alone would be worse IMO. Pit of Consciousness is a dark song so she definitely goes dark.

[@shaunbryan3421]

The moshpit in this song is called a circle pit and yeah they are pretty tame now in their Teacher Teacher music video there is a "wall of death" pit and those can be a bit dangerous.

[@silvertongue3003]

Her growling is like a cat purring, it just makes you tingle

[@DavidDArcy1975]

the drummer is a classically trained pianist as we ll as being a sick drummer Respect & Peace

[@matthewflesher3438]

Read the lyrics during the video. You will understand in no time

[@frankhermansen243]

Short. The lyrics is about winter depression, and beeing reborn in the Spring, Refering to natures Circle.

[@danielrose933]

After you listen to any Jinjer songs for a number of times each you will actually start to understand most all of the growled or gutteral vocals.

[@bazamere]

Harsh or gutteral vocals do get easier to understand the more you listen to them. Different vocalists do have very different techniques so you might start to ubderstand one but then another will be complete gibberish to you. Dont let comments bother you , everyone here is an expert dont ya know ;) though may I suggest some Slaughter to Prevail if you want tl hear some demon sounds for real 😂 Baba Yaga is a good start

[@quinceykirkland1227]

Teacher teacher live, Pit of Conscienceness live in Kiev.

[@snarfingcode666]

I have tickets to see them with Disturbed here in Richfield WA next month. Looking forward to some symphonic metal.

[@CrazyIrishmen7]

People usually recognize the bands skill too, its hard not too, theyre all incredibly talented people.

[@atexandude8303]

Nah, from what I’ve seen, the band themselves, at least by the fans, are pretty respected as well. Eugene is a killer bassist and Vlad is arguably one of the most unique drummers in the genre, from kit size to position. But he produces and it’s wild. Great group around a great center piece.

[@jamesbradshaw3925]

Not the first girl to do these vocals, seen them live and she's amazing.

[@dylanholman3]

Bro calling the circle pit “duck duck goose” and “ring around the rosey” was so funny to me 😂

[@PaisleyGreene63]

When Tati sings she plays with the words, stretching a syllable here, changing a word’s cadence there. “Frantic” becomes “fr-an-tic”, stuff like that, and it does make following the lyrics hard sometimes. I think it’s because she writes lyrics in English even though it isn’t her first language.

[@Jadedxx]

Jinger isn'ty cup of tea despite being a metal head. I loved OTEP when I was in my teens. I REALLY think y'all need to check out In Flames Ropes or Where Dead Ships Dwell. I've been listening to them for about 25 yrs. They're amazing.

[@GarryGri]

You understand 'growling' by practice 😂

From the ashes of my roots, the new me will raise to live again ... that's what she was saying... you should check the lyrics... it's a really nice poem about her feelings when winter comes ...

[@lloyderc]

Not disrespectful at all bud. She’s just amazing. And the guys jam. She’s a talent that don’t come along after .

[@elizabethschening920]

By watching a lyric video you can hear the words as you read them. Perennial plants die every year and come back in the spring. Its about death and rebirth of nature and the cycle of the seasons

[@stefanbukcev2249]

Dude, you could totally hit those notes. There are a boat load of tutorials online, but ultimately if you pretend you are pissed off, tired, and someone says something stupid, and you just go ugggggggghhhhh like a sigh, that's the part of your vocal cords you need to hit.

[@sabijea]

who needs the Rolling Stones magazine whan we can have Black Pegasus !!

[@casandralorensen4910]

My favorite performance is Pit of Consciousness live in Kyiv

[@lookiloo100]

The more you listen, the more you will start to understand the growling!

[@VintagedMillennial]

People being super sensitive and getting offended on behalf of other people is getting old. You didn't disrespect Tatiana or the band. Also i love her high kick and big steps at the beginning

[@der_chow8996]

"Bitte ein Bit" 😆 Best ragrds from the Eifel near Spangdahlem 👋

[@discreteentropy]

The band “Spiritbox” is another insane band with a female lead (Courtney LaPlante) that can growl and really, incredibly sing.

[@j.f.fisher5318]

One or two of their songs have dark themes. Maybe start with Blessed Be. Constance has no growls. The official video of Holy Roller was made by them with smartphone footage during lockdown. There's a fun video of a like 10 year old girl doing a cover of Holy Roller on America's Got Talent that you'd probably enjoy too. Cheers!

[@sharoncarlisle9453]

Yes, and also Alisa White Gluz from Arch Enemy. Handshake With Hell is a good one with growls and singing.

[@stacy0421]

React to Jinjer Judgement and Punishment One Take Vocal. It's amazing, it's just her and a microphone

[@HughDjibouti]

The reason she can do the harsh vocals like that is because the sound isn't produced by your vocal chords but rather a different set of tissue called the false folds. Anyone can do it through training! (LOTS of training)

[@joannewilson2395]

Im a midwife who has just finished a nihht shift I thought id dip into a gew of your reactions before i go to sleep. Dont think i picked the right one to relax me 😮😮😮

[@mendronesg]

The mosh starts like that. Spinning around, then when the drop hits, you start jumping around bumping into people. Lol

[@Luke-sq6xo]

She should do a Hi Jinjer! ROTFLMFAO! So funny.

[@lurklimit8378]

You guy's gotta hear Spirit Box - Circle with me live one take by Courtney LaPlante (the lead singer) it's fantastic.

[@n8lars188]

Dropped my phone at “Hi, Jinjer” 😂

[@phenixfire513]

watch the charismatic voice's video with Will Ramos where they put an endoscope down his throat, and you can get a better understanding on harsh vocals.

[@allanbach67]

With the harsh vocals it’s worth listening with the lyrics. Tati is pretty good at enunciating and you do get an ear for it. Hated this stuff until I heard Jinjer and can’t get enough of them. Amazing live. Stick with them. Try teacher teacher, a sort of hip hop vibe in parts.

[@D3ADPO3TRY]

RENJER. That was great.

[@D3ADPO3TRY]

JINJER was great and that was my first experience. Harsh vocals or growling as you say is a learned listen, hardcore wine for the ears, we all like sweet, but the deeper flavor is a trained skill. I've been in a mosh pit more than a dozen times and never was the intention to cause pain to a stranger, but to get out your aggression in a tribal and harmonic way. (occasionally accidents happen and everyone is typically respectful)

[@terric703]

5:34 The question has been answered. LOL 🤘🤘

[@enigmattic.]

If you want to hear another metal female vocalist check out Spiritbox. And yeah it can be hard to understand unclean vocals sometimes, it's definitely an acquired skill. I tell people that when you can't understand, think of their voice as more of an instrument and focus on the vowels/consonants. Which one you focus on depends on the enunciation & tone of the singer; as well as which is easier for you to pick up on.

[@timprice5747]

They are amazing live. It is hard to understand the growls, I just read the lyrics, and then I start to pick it up. Also, her lyrics read like poems, often with multiple meanings. This one is about how some plants seem to die in the winter, but spring back to life each year. Tatiana feels the same way, she suffers from depression but springs back.

[@TonyMorelli-em3ie]

Yall should really check out, Nita Strauss the wolf you feed. Nita is the guitarist and Alissa is the singer. Alissa is the lead singer of Arch Enemy

[@colddarkmatter1731]

That mosh pit was pretty tame. The circle stuff is a "circle pit." That's level one of moshing. Then there's actual "mosh pit" where the slamming and elbows come. Level 2 there. Next is "wall of death." The pit separates into 2 or 3 groups and runs full speed at each other and slam into each other. Level 3. Level 4 is "crowd killing" where one person targets people on the edge of the pit and slams, punches or kicks em. Then of course there is revenge crowd killing 😂😂

[@EleanorThinks]

PB check out The Will Ramos ~ he's on a lot with Elizabeth from The Charismatic Voice. They actually went to an ENT and put a scope down to see what his vocal chords are doing..It's pretty interesting.

[@jamescutler8055]

It takes time to adjust your hearing to the growls, you have to listen over and over. Just like some rap you have to hear a bunch to get the lyrics if you don't listen to it all the time. Just know that Jinjer is the best at this style and Tatiana is a super talent.

[@TaverenTech]

If you like Tatiana's voice, you'll like Killer V's vocals in Sicksense plus there is a rapper too (it should already be in your queue, superchat last live stream).

[@ryankylecross]

NEVER PAUSE!!!! NEVER !!!!!

[@tulipmoon5230]

You really want to hear some amazing female vocals check out In This Moments songs "Whore" and "Adrenalize Me"

[@cyrilvey5757]

This song is about seasonal depression (not sure of the name, not english native speaking motherfucker I am): when autunm and winter come, all the life (flowers, trees) dies and then come back to life at spring time. So do the peoples who suffer of seasonal depression: at the end of the song Tatiana says: From the ashes of my roots the new me willl rise to live again. Lyrics are usually very poetic in Jinjer's songs whatever the topic is