Volume Pedal vs. Expression Pedal - Daniel Fisher

[@lordbriansoriano]

Thank you for the information and you have a nice voice for being a host. Thank you Mr. Fisher more power

[@NathanielSemsen]

This was extremely helpful for someone who doesn’t know too much about the difference, thank you!!

[@greendrinkguy1882]

He's good at putting his thoughts into words.

[@AlexandreSoma]

MAN, you are the best reviewer on the entire youtube, beleive it! :D Thanks!!!!

[@nicolascageinzebuilding]

You saved my life, was right before throwing the m audio pedal away, not realizing I just have to turn a knob

[@bcm70]

Very informative and well delivered - thanks mate.

[@wyattlytenin7715]

Thanks Daniel.. I just got a Yamaha FC7 pedal for my Yamaha MODX and wanted to return it because it was too heavy but after watching this video I think I’ll keep it .

[@dooda1193]

skip to 6 45 where it begins

[@wrda2]

I had no idea Walter Sobchak was so well informed about pedals!

[@PageandPlant4Life]

He's calmer than you are dude

[@carlbessette1702]

you're out of your element Donny!

[@progrocker84]

Volume pedal - 2:50 Midi CC controller for volume - 5:22

[@rick6429]

The m-audio pedal works fine for volume control as it works like a volume knob, but it’s a cumbersome on off switch. If what you are changing is on/off the smaller sustain like pedals are much better as they are spring loaded so hit it once and it changes unlike the m-audio ex-p where you have to push it down with your toes and then down with your heel to get it to be a switch.

[@angelh1743]

Thank you so much. This was very helpful.

[@Michael_Moon4242]

Thank you very much this was a good explanation. Planning to switch my old S25 to a Native Instruments Komplete Kontrol S49 MK2 and I have an unused Mission Engineering EP25-Pro Aero GC. The EP25-Pro Aero is more a guitar FX expression pedal. I wonder if it will work?

[@Thmusic7]

Thank you sir! Excellent video

[@ThaWolfe1]

Daniel, thank you so much, very informative

[@sweetwater]

Hi Tommy, you're welcome. I get lots of customer questions like this passed to me from Sales. So I figured it was worth a video. Thanks for watching!

[@simongroot5246]

Very usefull video, thanks!

[@sweetwater]

Hi Simon. Glad it helped! -_Daniel_

[@jfprovencal]

very clear. thank you!

[@marioianniello5578]

Cheers for this, I've been looking for "what are the other two pedals on a piano for?" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Ever heard of - Danilliam Illustrious Dominance - (should be on google have a look ) ? It is a great one off guide for discovering how to learning piano fast minus the hard work. Ive heard some interesting things about it and my buddy got cool success with it.

[@USALibertarian]

What is the difference between Volume vs Expression vs Wah vs Anything else similar? What do they do technically It? It would also be easier for me to understand what it is doing by demonstrating with clean tones and the same notes for each mode.

[@keizy1479]

Great video Daniel. Incidentally, can the expression pedal be used to control pitch bend on keyboards such as the Nord Electro.

[@johnnyparker2128]

Too bad this question didn’t get answered. I would also like to know.

[@perrypelican9476]

What happened to your Sweetwater iOS videos? They were great, maybe the best iPad music videos around. I can't find them anymore.

[@BetoAzamar]

Excellent video, thanks.

[@GameArtsCafe]

Hi Daniel, I'm having trouble trying to find this: after all these years, foot pedal manufacturers still haven't made a spring loaded pedal where the heel is always stationary and always parallel to the floor but the toe part is lightly spring loaded or gravity corrected to basically follow your foot as it lifts off the pedal. When someone taps their feet, the heel is always planted on a non moving surface and the toe hits the floor, it's odd for guitarists to have to use rotate their foot again on a controller just to make it return to 0 levels or vs versa. Is there such a pedal? Ideally I think the heel should be it's own non moving piece level with the floor and the toe area just just follows your foot as you tap it.

[@sweetwater]

Hi GameArtsCafe. While it doesn't work in every situation, a lot of times you can use the Roland DP-10 Sustain Pedal with Half Damper Control: www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/DP10--roland-dp-10-piano-style-sustain-pedal-with-half-damper-control Just set it to Continuous and plug it into the Expression (or any Continuous Controller) input jack. -_Daniel_

[@RobFlaxMusic]

This was great; thank you!

[@bluename4]

can one use pedal inputs in keyboards as CV (control voltage) input, e.g. for LFO Modulations from eurorack-modular?

[@cmorche]

@blue name Same question here. Have you found any info?

[@MLE-fm4ox]

@@cmorche Hi, you found any info?

[@boomer7393]

11:34 that's the beat of Do it Again by Steely Dan lol

[@sweetwater]

Hi B o o me r. Yup, "Do It Again" used a Bossa beat.

[@kiko1935]

I was sad that the MODX doesn't support aftertouch but realized "wait a minute- expression pedal" it's a cool type of product that makes a lot of sense

[@MrTPF1]

Very good info. Thank you!

[@joe1annie2]

Great video :-) Wondering if fv-500l expression pedal will work with a vox delaylab . Thank you

[@TheBabypod]

Will the M-Audio do ALL those different things, (expression, registration, expression assign, looper, rotaary etc). on the Yamaha MODX or does it only do the expression thing?

[@sweetwater]

Hi TheBabypod. You can assign what the Expression pedal modulates to pretty much any Control Destination available. And you can do that independently per Part, and per Performance. -_Daniel_

[@fahimdawer]

Why 5 pin din midi jack is not used instead of TRS jack for expression pedal? Is it for powering the pedal besides transmission of midi data or there is something else?

[@sweetwater]

Hi fahimdawer. You could use the MIDI In for Expression *if* you had an Expression pedal that had MIDI Out and could send CC# 7 (for Volume) or CC#11 (for Expression). But it's far easier to simply plug an Expression pedal (that ends in a 1/4" TRS plug) into the Continuous Controller jack (also known as an Expression jack, or Volume jack, depending on what it typically does). -_Daniel_

[@fahimdawer]

@@sweetwaterwell said.... tnx dear

[@MrBeatles01]

Great vid thanks. But what if i want to control expression and volume during a gig. Do you need two pedals? Sorry if this is an obvious question. thnx

[@sweetwater]

Hi MrBeatles01. If, by "expression", you mean using a controller pedal to move parameters other than Volume... then yes, you would use an actual volume pedal connected to the keyboard's Audio Outs, and an Expression pedal connected to the Expression jack. Thanks for watching!

[@MrBeatles01]

@@sweetwater thanks for that!

[@Ned-ke3ui]

Nice video Daniel Thanks 👍

[@chriswright8655]

Damn, this guy knows his shit

[@kiwictor3752]

thx!

[@aristoskarvelas2606]

very helpful

[@amonster8mymother]

I have fc7s in my studio. Lots of travel. Only problem is the heel position is different standing than sitting. 😁

[@brokerhc]

Great explanation.

[@paulospaularas3158]

You can use in same time stereo volume for one keyboard and expresion for other keyboard????i mean for the boss fv 500l?in the same time

[@sweetwater]

Hi Paulos, Yes, the audio Ins and Outs are separate from the Expression Out. Each can be used on a different keyboard at the same time. Thanks for watching!

[@ALMAR-Music-Ltd.]

If I purchase the FC7 for my Yamaha Genos and I’m using a VST library in Cubase 12 Pro will that offer me more expression using a VST instrument besides the instruments in the Genos.

[@sonicase]

i think you can change a volume only pedal into an expression pedal but you have to make the wire for it

[@spamilton1]

Some of the pedals on the market, like the Dunlop ones, can switch between the two functions, but you need to adjust switches inside the pedal.

[@mrsoulpoint]

What is different between SUSTAIN PEDAL and EXPRESSION PEDAL?

[@sweetwater]

Hi mrsoulpoint. A Sustain pedal (for an electronic keyboard) is a lever that is pressed with the foot. It is typically used to keep notes playing as if you were still holding down the keys. An Expression pedal is a rocker that can be tipped forwards (toe down) or backwards (heel down), and is often used to control volume, filter sweeps, or basically any parameter that can be modulated by Expression. Thanks for watching!

[@mrsoulpoint]

@@sweetwater Thank you!

[@dadduorp]

Not sure if this requires the knowledge of an electronics specialist, but are today's expression pedals compatible with vintage Electone Combo Organs? I can't figure out why my YC-45D (circa 1972) has such a low volume and I learned that it could be a faulty expression pedal. The problem is that the pedal is hardwired into the organ somewhere and I was told that I could simply "...use a regular volume pedal and put it inline with the jack cord."

[@RussTobin]

So it the Boss FV500L the best out of the three. I use a Nord Electro 6D and the Roland VR-09B.

[@charlesking1392]

Greetings Sir: I bought the FC-7 volume pedal. I have the psr sx700. I had a volume pedal before, and all I did was to put it into my psr 510 and I cold increase my volume with the foot pedal. That is all I want right now. But I cannot seem to get it set up with my sx700. Could you please tell me how to do it. I just want to increase the entire volume when I am playing. I want nothing else. Every time I search for this instruction I get a whole lot of everything else. Kind Regards

[@supermaestro67]

Hello. please can you explain the configuration of midi compatibility roland fc 300 and korg pa 1000.

[@ed.t.hansen6499]

can i use a electro harmonix slammi pedal as an input to the ehx pitchfork + . i plug my guitar to the normal input to the pitchfork ...

[@ed.t.hansen6499]

can i use a electro harmonix slammi pedal as an input to the ehx pitchfork + . i plug my guitar to the normal input to the pitchfork ; with no input to the slammi ?? ...

[@ceyhanyzc]

It doesn't use the full range of pedals, it seems the change happens on the last 30% of the pedal height.

[@sweetwater]

Hi ceyhanyzc. It could be a couple of things. First, that happens when you have the wrong type of expression pedal. For example, if you use a Yamaha FC7 pedal on an input that requires a non-Yamaha pedal, you'll get this behavior. Another trickier thing is if Expression (as a source) is not set to modulate 100% in a Modulation Matrix. Hope one of these two things helps. -_Daniel_

[@stvgkeyboardists882]

Sir very urgents please Reply me My questions is Is korg xvp 20 volume pedals works with pa4x ? Reply me

[@alwaysinmydream1]

Daniel, thank you for your exponation.One question. How come Yamaha FC7 pedal works as volume pedal on Roland FA with changing polarity off course ,and it doesn't work in Fantom G? I just purchase from Sweetwater YPP-136 and YPP-117 stereo breakout 1/4in TRSF to Dual 1/4in TS and 1/4 in TSF cables.Thank you.

[@prolixsicklicks]

Fantastic tutorial. Thanks!

[@Paolo-xn3po]

Can I use the M-audio Ex-P as a volume pedal on my guitar pedalboard?

[@ruxiwang9571]

does any pedal send cv signal? I want to control modular synth.

[@sweetwater]

Hi Ruxi Wang. The Next Step pedal by EHX sends from 0-+5 volts of CV from its 9v battery whenever you use 1/4" TS cable, instead of a 1/4" TRS cable that's typically used for "expression": www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/ExpressionPED--electro-harmonix-next-step-expression-pedal The Behringer FCV100 Dual-Mode Expression Pedal can also send 0-+5v the the "5V" switch is engaged: www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/FCV100--behringer-fcv100-dual-mode-expression-pedal

[@Jack_Sparrow_1]

@sweetwater Daniel (or anybody else who has some knowledge about this), are there midi expression/controller pedals with MIDI DIN (5-pin) connection cable? I want to connect multiple midi pedals to my Motu MIDI Xpress XT MIDI interface to be able to controll multiple parameters of my vst instruments at the same time. The above mentioned MIDI interface does not have a MIDI TRS input. My future midi keyboard (Kawai VPC1) seems not to have input for expression pedal. It has 2 inputs for "Soft" and for "Damper/Sostenuto - can a TRS-jack expression be plugged into one of those inputs? And even if it would be possible, it would only take 1 single pedal. I would like to have multiple expression pedals. The VPC1 does not have pitch-bend whe neither. So for this I would need a midi pedal with middle rest position - to travel both ways. Is there such a pedal? Thank you!

[@sciupasciupasciupa]

Hi sweetwater! you said that boss fv 500 L shouldnt be used for guitars....im looking for an exp pedals to control the parameters of my Line 6 DL4, which is a delay modeler, I guess u know what im taking about. so I think the fv 500L meets my exigences, because im going to use it to control the modeler, not the guitar, am I right? and one little more question...I saw it has 2 inputs/outputs besides the exp output...it would be possible to control not one but 2 different pedal? Thanks in advance and congrats for the video!

[@sweetwater]

Any of the Boss volume pedals can be used as an expression pedal. The FV500L is designed for keyboards, so it has stereo in and out. You can still only control one device with it when using it as an expression pedal. Thanks for your interest! Charlie Davis, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, [phone] ext. 1320, [e-mail]

[@adamkornecki5239]

thanks dan!

[@sweetwater]

Ain't nuthin' but a thang :-)

[@non-youtuber]

Hi I have a Roland Juno DS i already have a sustain pedal but i need an expression pedal which one should i get Should i get the Roland EV-5 Expression Pedal?

[@jangrewe]

The pedal doesn't go from 0V to 5V or 10V, it goes from 0V to whatever voltage it gets fed - because, as you stated just one sentence before, it does not have its own power supply. 😉

[@devinbrewer8956]

Does anyone know if a Roland vr09 works with a proline sustain pedal? I can't get it to work but idk what I'm doing wrong or if it's just not compatible

[@javierburciaga]

Hi Daniel! thanks for the review, i have a yamaha montage, the m-audio will work with my monty?.. I prefer this because it's lightweight than FC7

[@ShellyAnderson0624]

Is the Nektar NX-P Universal Expression Pedal a good one too? Any limitations or differences?

[@sweetwater]

Hi shelly0624. The Nektar NX-P will work well as an expression pedal. It obviously won't work as an audio volume pedal since it doesn't have audio Ins and Outs, but it does have a switch that helps to make it compatible as an expression with many devices. Thanks for watching!

[@boldcautionproductions9203]

Cool, helpful.

[@dannyromano5156]

Yamaha FC7 For the Win

[@alperonurmusic]

Merhaba Türkiye den.boss fv500 l klavye exp pedal için için stereo jack mı gerekir.

[@carolmakofka3005]

Can the exp -2 be used with the roland fr4x accordion

[@non-youtuber]

Also will the Yamaha FC7 work with the Roland Juno DS?

[@SamStormsKBD]

Probably, yes. In general, Yamaha pedals work with other brands' keys but Yamaha keys have a hard time working with other brands' pedals

[@sekritskworl-sekrit_studios]

what's the deal with the Expression dor the Boss pedal?

[@bukkaratsuppa6414]

Is it true that you can use a Y shaped stereo to twin mono cable to turn a volume pedal into an expression pedal?

[@kallekontio2322]

for the BOSS FV-50L and 500L yes.

[@adrianlemusic]

Just a question, can I control for example a wha wha fx with an expression pedal on the Roland Vr-09?

[@morgandiassimao5090]

No :-/

[@pantano207]

I can't get any difference in volume whatsoever with it connected to a Yamaha P60... whay could it be?

[@campar1043]

my midi keyboard only has a sustain quarter inch input, will that work for the m-audio expression pedal? im trying to control the WAH in amplitube

[@sweetwater]

Hi Cam Par. Unfortunately, a Sustain input jack is a TS jack that's expecting an open/close switch. An Expression input jack is a TRS jack that's expecting a variable resistor. If your controller has a Mod Wheel you can attempt to use it to do Wah by assigning CC#1 (Mod Wheel) to WAH (Filter Cutoff) in Amplitube. Thanks for watching! -_Daniel_

[@campar1043]

@@sweetwater so if i want to use an expression pedal I basically have to get a midi keyboard that has a footswitch input?

[@proteus1]

How do you assign the Yamaha fc7 to the montage? Do you require access to the settings?

[@ommusicalgroup5536]

Will boss ev5 expression pedal controls the overall volume of xp 60 in performance 16 parts ?????

[@dashmeetsingh619]

Does this boss nd yamaha pedals can do same works. Only difference is the amount of cables that is more in boss? Plz reply 😐

[@sweetwater]

Hi Dashmeet. The jack wiring between Boss and Yamaha expression pedals is different and not completely compatible. Thanks for watching!

[@bikesnbeerz]

Thanks!

[@allseas3953]

Thanks. Grand.

[@jungleman4238]

Hi. How do you connect the pedal to a mixer to like control two keyboards at once? Thanks.

[@sweetwater]

Hi Johnny. The easiest way would be to connect the keyboards to the mixer , and then connect the mixer's output (mono or stereo) to the volume pedal's input. The output of the volume pedal would then go to your amp or amplified speakers. Thanks for watching!

[@WyattLite-n-inn]

Sweetwater Hi Daniel: Will both the Yamaha and Roland work better on their respective instruments than the M Audio with that switchable polarity? I have a brand new FC7 still in the box. Wondering if I should trade it in for the M Audio or just buy another Roland

[@prolixsicklicks]

Very helpful video, appreciate it!

[@charlesway1237]

can you do one for half damper pedal.

[@mrnitin6057]

You missed the whole point. Pedals are supposed to be used by the foot.

[@Simbor-rh1dj]

He is trying to demonstrate (people should be able to see), duh!😊

[@jeswinamosphilip]

​@@Simbor-rh1djHe was sarcastic.. 😂

[@davidchikonda7710]

H guys. I have a Roland E80 and would like to buy a volume / expression pedal (Boss FV-500L). How do I connect it to the keyboard? What kind of cables do I need? Please assist. Cheers

[@sweetwater]

Hi David. You'd use two cables from the E80's Left and Right Outs into the FV-500L's Left and Right Ins. Then, the FV-500L's Left and Right Outs would go to your amp or mixer. Thanks for watching!

[@davidchikonda7710]

@@sweetwater Thank you very much for your response

[@tommyhili6805]

Hello. What if i am connecting it into a midi controller and then to my DAW. I would be able to map it to any parameter right. Thank you.

[@sweetwater]

Hi Don, yes, you could re-map it to any CC# and send the commands from your DAW to the keyboard. Thanks for watching!

[@tommyhili6805]

SweetwaterSound Thanks for answering

[@micha4431]

And what about two expresions pedals at once into one midi keyboard? Still possible?

[@bytewav3341]

i've been googling a lot... what i'm looking for in computer graphics is called a lerp: (Signal_A*foot)+(Signal_B*(1-foot)) .. it's basically 2 volumes controlled by a single pedal. help

[@syrup128]

he sorta talks about that around 7:00 (the superknob on that patch is lerping between the piano and electric piano). I guess it depends on what keyboard you have, what patches it has, and how much control it gives you over the mapping of the expression pedal

[@michaelolaleye5215]

Is there a way to control the volume of 2 devices by one pedal?

[@ommusicalgroup5536]

will yamaha fc7 work in roland xp 60 performance mode ???? for volume control ....

[@sweetwater]

Hi ankit verma, you won't like it very much. The usable range of the pedal is very narrow when matched like this. It won't hurt to try it, but you'll enjoy almost any other (non-Yamaha) controller pedal a lot more. Thanks for watching!

[@djejpro]

I like this guy...no bull sh*t explanations :)

[@divyanshraj1382]

I want to play keyboard with comping can pedal can help to do it

[@minstrel0155]

how do i connect my expression pedal to montage6

[@sweetwater]

Hi Lorenzo. You can connect a Yamaha FC-7 Foot Controller to either the Foot Controller 1 or 2 jack. Thanks for watching! -_Daniel_

[@ldp7090]

1:12 i tried buying boss 500L for my guitar and keyboards and im heart broken to learn it doesnt work well for guitar. Has sharp cliff Well thats why you research before buying lol

[@carpegiane1504]

I have two questions. The Boss FV 500L need a power supply? The Boss FV 500L expression its compatible with Nord Stage?

[@sweetwater]

Hi Carpegiane. The VF 500 pedals are passive (don't need power). The 1/4" TRS jack should work fine with a Nord when using a 1/4" TRS cable between them. Thanks for watching!

[@brugnonpatrimoine8713]

I saw this on some keyboard specs > "2 pedal inputs : expression, universal". Does those last two things mean the same?

[@sweetwater]

Hi Frederic. I suspect that universal implies either 1) It can take a TRS Expression or TS Switch. 2) The control signal that's generated can be chosen by you. 3) Both things are true.

[@alexmartinez7158]

Is this Walter from The Big Lebowski?

[@berniebersamina6270]

I use the FC7 with my MODX. When I change patches the sound comes out with full volume even though I don't have the pedal on full. Is there a way to switch so the volume does not play in full volume each time I change patches?

[@sweetwater]

Hi Bernie. That would be because each preset has its own stored Volume level. See if there's a global override of per-Preset Volume. That's what would be required to do what you want. Thanks for watching!

[@PUTUPLAN7]

Nice

[@leonelguedes6480]

oi tenho um vr 09 e queria saber como melhorar meu sustaim nele como aumentar no menu

[@fragoutbeatz]

This is the Mandalorian if he got saved by Americans instead of Mandalorians.

[@DrDiBlasio]

Este Vídeo Aburre.

[@BipinMhatreRocks]

Can we use boss flv500l at a time as volume control nd expression aslo

[@ricardojarsdine5192]

can the m-audio exp work on the yamaha psr 670