Vortex Razor Gen III FFP 1-10x Scope Review: Still The Best LPVO?

[@Deuce_Dufresne]

I’m just here to validate my purchase 😎🇺🇸

[@Losantiville]

Scary

[@Deuce_Dufresne]

@@Losantiville it was a joke, lighten up

[@Losantiville]

@@Deuce_Dufresne as was mine, happy your happy

[@Yeoman7]

Purchase validated

[@txpredatorhunting]

Most are !😆

[@billbee235]

I had a PLX 1-8x and sold it to buy the Vortex 1-10x. Had the Gen III 1-10x for about 6 months or so and put nearly 1,000 rounds down range. Ended up selling it and going back to the PLX Griffin MIL. It was certainly a good scope, but the PLX just felt better optically. I really wanted to like the Gen III since I’m a vortex fanboi and probably wouldn’t mind having another one in the collection at some point.

[@JGoodZX6R]

I like my PLXc 1-8, but the 8x eyebox I feel is pretty picky and somewhat blurry. I honestly enjoy getting behind my Vortex Strike Eagle 1-8x FFP version more than the PLXc. The 1x on the PLXc is nicer (wider FOV and bezel disappears) but in order to get the best of 1x and 8x, I have to adjust the ocular focus quite a bit. I have three paint marks on the ocular ring for best 1x, best 8x, and best happy-medium.

[@paulyp9853]

@@JGoodZX6R To each his own. I love my PLX. 8 is always going to be picky on a 1-8. I used a Strike Eagle 1-8 and do not have the save opinion using 8, but I am glad that it is working for you.

[@LRRPFco52]

​@@JGoodZX6RStrike Eagles are known for going down in courses.

[@navyman8903]

18:20 Yours might not, but C_DOES and I, both demonstrated the fisheye. It wasn't failing to adjust the eye piece.

[@gunblasterr]

that dude is a 🤡 he says he runs optics hard instead of just shooting paper yet shoots steel at 25 yards

[@E.IS.M.I.A.]

@Navyman8903 what lpvo do you go with on your duty rig?

[@navyman8903]

​@E.IS.M.I.A. I like the Steiner T6Xi 1-6 or a Trijicon Credo FFP red MIL on a 14.5, and a Trijicon Credo 1-8 or NF ATACR 1-8 on a 16"

[@stehekinreservation3402]

Great review. I rarely buy anything that is firearm related with first seeing if you have reviewed it.

[@Mrgunsngear]

Thank you

[@Chonkasaurus]

I bought one yesterday not realizing you released your review. Excited to get it in!

[@1RexRacer1]

Glad to see you put your Razor that far forward of the charging handle, I thought I was doing something wrong but that's the only way I can get a sight pic (the cave effect).

[@connormckay9429]

Im curious to see how the new Trijicon Credo 1-10x will hold up to this, havent seen anybody review one of those yet 👀🔥

[@boygonewhoopdataZZ]

It'll be similar to all the 1-10x in it's price. It's not like Trijicon is doing anything different with the glass maybe housing if they bring out a VCOG 1-10x.

[@stayvigilant007]

That mount looks like a beast. Paired with that Razor, looks like a winner. Nice information conveyance. Thank you.

[@Mrgunsngear]

Be sure and check out Mrgunsngear.com 🇺🇸

[@peady64]

I'm running one on a 12.5-inch 6arc build of mine. I just love it. In my opinion. better glass than my ATAC-R LPVO'S.

[@ashtonhay2656]

Ive had it for a few years now, no complaints.

[@free4all3forall]

Currently have the Gen III 1-10 on a 16" POF Revolution 308 with the Huxwrx 7.62 flow Ti. Hog demon in the hay fields. Love that gun 😅. Great review on the Razor 🍻.

[@Rudyelf1]

Hog Demon was my nickname in the Marines. Not one fat girl from 29 Palms to San Diego was safe. Back injury is not service related. 😢

[@ChadCooper03]

That super duty looks like a dream. I’ve been waiting for their 11.5 SD uppers to come back in stock. Plan on running the same Hux can too.

[@NotYourFriendPal]

Europtics had had these in-stock since day 1. I bought one of the USA made variants in 2022, for $2k new.

[@christopherkey3488]

I think I would rather have a PLX-C over this, it’s crazy what you get out of the primary arms scope for about 1300 when they do the save12 thing

[@usernamealreadytaken770]

Got mine for $1200 as well but thanks to military discount.

[@christopherkey3488]

@@usernamealreadytaken770 you dirty dog 😏

[@christopherkey3488]

@@usernamealreadytaken770 you dirty dog 😏

[@gldude14-lt4qc]

@@usernamealreadytaken770 damn. I've been buying from them for 7+ years and didn't know about their military discount 🤦‍♂

[@1lostinspace]

hard to beat the ACSS

[@ericknight1153]

Great review..Good detail on this 1-10..👍🏾👍🏾

[@rondobrondo]

You can make the image at 10x sharper by moving the diopter. Many people will compromise and set their diopter so that the reticle is slightly less sharp at lower magnifications, but grants greater sharpness at 10x and keeps the reticle crisp at 10x. Yes, another tradeoff, but one that's usually pretty worth it

[@terrarecon]

A vid from one of my fav G-tubers. Sipping coffee and enjoying.

[@Mrgunsngear]

Thank you

[@jesseG223]

Run this on my SCAR 17. Great combo.

[@HHenry-tt1of]

Agreed

[@Mrgunsngear]

nice

[@jaimemartinez3866]

I probably should have done same. Their warranty can’t be beat by anyone. I went with nightforce atac on my scar.

[@sam_rules76]

With a badger ordinance mount

[@jaimemartinez3866]

@blackout.ghost718 oh nothing at all I keep hearing how scar beats up scopes. I don’t know if nightforce’s warranty is as great as vortex

[@joquin4618]

Just glad I’m rocking the razor 1-6x gen2 e 😊

[@wilsoncombat1341]

Keep rocking it, the 1-10 will piss you off

[@CreepyJoeTchedMe]

@@wilsoncombat1341 what didnt you like about it if you dont mind me asking?

[@artmarquette5767]

Ordinary 6pak joe here. Not buying one unless i hit the lottery. Even then my $200-300 scopes work just fine out on the gun range even out to 600+ yards. Thanks for the review

[@allenmoore9796]

Loving your daily deal emails. Thank you

[@Mrgunsngear]

You're welcome 👍🏽

[@djstaycool7418]

Love them and hate them for what they cost the “household” budget. Seriously a great value to the community. I can’t imagine what it takes to put something like that out daily but thank you for doing it!

[@MrKingArthurhk]

A caveat to ranger wrapping your scope is that companies that make honey comb anti sniper covers tend to be very precise. Because of the ranger wrap on mine, it could not be properly mounted. Camouflaging your “apocalypse,” firearm is fun. However, that is a draw back with the optic, should you choose to cover up the odd colored scope as it comes.

[@MrKingArthurhk]

I got one used with a mount for my 6.5 Grendel and I had it ranger wrapped.

[@Hades16899]

I love mine, I had zero issues using it as a red dot not max settings.

[@billbeam8069]

Good review, brother

[@Mrgunsngear]

Much appreciated

[@pyramus7958]

Run this on my 16 5.56. Absolutely love it.

[@plamenstoychev2158]

Please review the Credo 1-10.

[@Bisley1]

Yes please!! I looked through one 2 weeks ago and it seems promising. I also like the adjustable turret on top.

[@timo2571]

I'm glad you mentioned the chromatic aberration because it was something I wondered about given I've had camera lenses that I got in my early years before I knew and took many pictures with only to discover the purple fringing that happens with ultra zoom lenses. Here I thought I took great pictures only to have to crop them and lose half the scene because leaves aren't purple. Hopefully it prevents the stupid end of a 50 mm tube on a 1x - 24x LPVO unless some genius can figure out how to bend light without the inherent prism creating a rainbow.

[@Mrgunsngear]

100% truth

[@CorwinBos]

Love some 1-10 and 2-10 scopes. Just a handy magnification that can get alot done.

[@dstrick31487]

lol inadvertently this is a good ad for the sandman K 556 flash suppressor!

[@Jay-cv8vb]

Got mine in 2020 for 1650$. I feel honored to have got mine befor mrgng lol and finally can justify the purchase

[@Edmondson_Avenue]

I think this it Gen 3

[@Jay-cv8vb]

@@Edmondson_Avenue there never was a gen 2 razor 1-10 just a 1-6. I have a razor gen 3 1-10

[@joemo1033]

Idk man...I got both and the PA takes it for me. Great review as always.

[@RikkiTikkiTavi290]

I'm going down the rabbit hole with LVPOs right now for a 16" rifle. Driving me crazy.

[@jaydunbar7538]

If it wasn’t for the cost I’d have one on my deer rifle, imo it would be a fantastic general purpose option for hunting. 1X would be great for the woods and 10X is plenty for any distance most of us will ever shoot at game.

[@Mrgunsngear]

absolutely

[@TheCannell76]

Monstrum Panzer 1-10 FFP... 200 bucks. I have about 2000 rnd count of 5.56 through it and seems to be holding up...

[@jh-333-7]

I put a monstrum 1-6 on my 6.5 grendel ar that I use on hogs and deer. The illumination knob fell off under recoil and it didn't hold zero. I was working on a tight budget. I upgraded to the affordable SIG tango 1-10 sfp. I'm very happy with it so far. But if I could afford the vortex razor....

[@MiaogisTeas]

@@TheCannell76 Yeah sorry for that price the SIG Tango 1-10 FFP is a better choice.

[@timgunn3670]

Thanks for the review. I’m trying to decide between Vortex or Eotech for +-$600 less. I have the Vortex strike eagle ffp 1x8 on my 556 and I’m happy with it. Just ordered a Watchtower Type10 308 and was considering a 1x10 ffp lpvo for it. I’d like to see you review the Watchtower Type10 I can’t find any reviews, I found a great price and pulled the trigger. We will see have not received rifle yet.

[@Mrgunsngear]

hopefully the rifle is awesome; haven't used one myself

[@timowens7214]

1:37 man that surppressor doesn't seem to be working to well as far as flash mitigation 😂💥💨

[@mysterioanonymous3206]

This..

[@charliepiland3285]

I’ve had a March Tactical 2.5-25 power scope on a 308 DMR for over a decade. And that 10x power range comes with a VERY unforgiving eye box. Left me scared to drop big money on another full 10x magnification range. Sounds like the latest gen optics have resolved most of that issue.

[@jesstenhower4847]

Trying to decide between this optic and the PLXc 1-8 FFP. I am seeing a lot more advantages to this one over the PLXc. Like red dot level brightness, extra zoom, and IMO a better BDC reticle. Cost being no factor, if you had to pick between one or the other, what would you choose? Also I was curious, because this optic is 1-10x, if it is set at 8x, does it have a significantly more forgiving eyebox than the PLXc does at 8x?

[@BM-gq3fb]

amazing review!

[@peterdarlington4117]

Wow did anyone else notice the fire ball coming out of that suppressor in the intro? It’s not making the rifle hearing safe or eliminating the rifles flash signature what’s the point?

[@aftermath2333]

Hell yeah running it in 11.5 my man another hit.

[@seanmtak7573]

The translucent center reticle is awesome on these

[@user-yd3uh4pz5e]

Seen these for $2k on Optics Planet with military discount in the past.

[@rocketeng1888]

IOR just came out with a 40mm LPVO… they started the whole LPVO… just trying to find one is the trick

[@StevenZoeZoe]

I picked one up with a mil discount last week. I like it for what it is. I was deciding between the ATACR 1-8 and could not justify the +500 dollars more.

[@Mcallen1130]

Crazy this scope came out I paid 1800 dollars for it. The same scope is now almost double msrp I think my purchase was justified I will not be replacing

[@Mrgunsngear]

wild

[@Rubeless]

$2300 before mil discount at OP, not close to double. But the blue line tells us your intelligence level.

[@Mcallen1130]

@@RubelessI said msrp not what it could be discounted to. We all now know you can’t read. I’d rather be a cop than a keyboard warrior living in his mom’s basement.

[@Bisley1]

@@Mcallen1130 the MSRPs on all scopes on their website is way above average market price. Even without discounts. Not sure why they do it that way.

[@golfnb28]

Great review. 👍

[@Mrgunsngear]

Thank you

[@oldschool9932]

Finally a piece of Razor glass the doesn't weigh 20# .... nice!

[@abilly]

I don't want to intrude but, did you have a form or MRSA? That's sorta what it looks like from that scene with you're calf at 0:1:19.00 - 0:1:36:00

[@MrKingArthurhk]

For 1x, I put an Arisaka mount with an ACRO P2.

[@boeing700]

Curious how this LPVO compares to the Kahles 18 1-8 first Gen. I’m also going down the rabbit hole with these LPVOs….

[@jst4kix]

Perfect timing on this video dropping! I have a great opportunity to get this scope and am leaning towards pulling the trigger specifically because of the “daylight bright” illumination. Of the other 1-10 scopes you’re reviewing, are there any that compare favorably to the Vortex in terms of brightness of the illuminated reticle? Thanks so much and keep up the great work!

[@Mrgunsngear]

no

[@IROD808]

That’s one of the scopes. I want to get one day unfortunately budget dictates a lot. Really enjoy the video thank you brother.

[@Mrgunsngear]

You bet

[@0xXAllForNothingXx0]

Have one on my m1a, amazing scope.

[@Texasbroski512]

I have this on an ar10 and looking for something for my 14.5 ar15 really want to try the PLXc 1-8 but also considering another 1-10 razor but I want the stadia lines for faster shooting

[@H538-w3q]

I had both the razor 1-10 and the primary arms 2.5-10 and I still have the primary arms. The razor 1-10 is like looking through a straw at 10 power and is a lot darker image.

[@martinl8273]

You should checkout March 1-10

[@Mrgunsngear]

Indeed

[@leroyjenkins4811]

The scope is already awesome. We all know that. What I want to know is, which mount are you using to hold the scope in?

[@Rubeless]

He clearly advised that in the beginning.

[@brassvulcher8207]

that scope is not awesome

[@alllopez63]

Thanks for the vid. Do you think it would be better to just go with a 2-10 like the Leupold mk5? Or is just preference and reticle at that point?

[@A_Marine_and_his_rifle]

The chromatic aberration happens at the top and bottom end of almost every scope. It's not specifically because it's 1x or 10x and more to do with the adhesives keeping the lenses secure to the adjustments inside the scope.

[@BloodEagle.]

I'm also torn between this and the MK5 2-10. Honestly, I'll probably go with the MK5 because of the reticle.

[@theayeguy5226]

I have the money for anything I want, and I was considering this scope, and the ATACR, but ultimately I just bought the PLXc Griffon 1-8. How does that one compare to the other two? To me it seemed the best value. What put me over the top was hearing that the DOE bought the Primary Arms for their QRF teams

[@rybaneightsix5085]

Why does the department of energy need QRF?

[@dimemmo]

Depends on what you are using it for, if you’re shooting out to a few hundred yards the Atacr is hard to beat with the plxc probably in last out of the three you mentioned. For close-mid distances you can’t go wrong with either

[@Mrgunsngear]

Hard to beat the PLx

[@theayeguy5226]

@@rybaneightsix5085 nuclear power plants

[@theayeguy5226]

@@rybaneightsix5085 nuclear power plant security

[@q-man762]

Whats up with the huge muzzle flashes seen with a suppressor on? Thought those eliminate flash.

[@Zed0086]

Get Daniel Defense PDW or this optic? I know it’s different use cases but I live in an area that needs both. I have an 11.5 but was thinking of something smaller and quieter. Money money money.

[@Just_A_Gun_Guy]

I'm down between this and the PLxC

[@philochristos]

That is a pretty cool scope.

[@46dgarrison]

Two things I would change on this scope. 1 I would have the stadia lines go all the way out to the edge on 1X. And 2 I would only have the dot itself lit up. Not the rings around it. I have owned mine for years now. And it’s the only things I would change. I actually don’t mind how thin the stadia lines are personally. But once again it would be nice for them to go to the edge

[@A_Marine_and_his_rifle]

Well, it's a combat optic. The circle is to increase reaction time on target for the shooter at short range.

[@TKsw191145]

That is a big flash signature from that can

[@rmp5s]

The only LPVO I've ever had was a Vortex Strike Eagle and I HATED it. The eye box was insufferable...sold it and bought an EXPS2 that I adore. Kinda wanna give this a shot on one of my new additions, though. How's the eye box? EDIT: He says it's tight sometimes...hmmm...

[@joshwright8633]

Wow that sandman!

[@sc6802]

Dear Leupold, bring back the MK6 1-6 FFP. that is all.

[@Mrgunsngear]

Duly noted

[@rockerdude8000]

Yeah those were pretty good

[@freightshakerclassicxl2728]

What lvpo mount is that in this video?? Anyone know ??

[@1DjScarface]

Besides 1-6 vs 1-10 thing…. This vs an sig tango6T dvo if money was no issue??

[@JohnZ556]

For the love of God, please use a flash hider cap on your Sandman, especially if you have the K model. It makes a huge difference even if you just put a 7.62 FH cap for your 12.5" 5.56. You can literally have a 16" barrel shooting fireball OR a 10.3" with little to no flash.

[@Mrgunsngear]

nah, it's better for comments/engagement to have flash

[@JohnZ556]

@@Mrgunsngear 🤣Guess I got fished.

[@littlezero6399]

I am sure it is great. I shoot 7.62x39 so I opted for an ACOG and a MPVO on QD mounts. I run the acog 90% of the time. And if I am hunting or goofing off at the range I might use the MPVO. A LPVO seemed like too much of a compromise for me.

[@Goinghot]

Always enjoy the reviews and vids! I'm sure it's top shelf but, $2,500 is a LOT for a LPVO! And to be honest I'm not a fan of this particular reticle. But that's just me.

[@therepublic1828]

I'd love your advice, I'm trying to select an optic for my KAC SR15. I'm currently stuck between deciding on this LPVO or the Elcan Spectre DR. I have watched both your videos on each optic but I'm still torn. My question to you is of you could only chose one for your SHTF rifle which would you chose and why. Thanks in Advance!

[@johnw4999]

How does this Razor compare to the Vortex AMG 1-10?

[@anotherreview5586]

Would really love a 2024 best red dot optic video. I feel I've been out of the hobby for years with no real updates .

[@Rubeless]

Best at what? Nothing has changed, aimpoint T2 or comp 5.

[@TinfoilShat]

Brownells sent me a MK111 upper that was all scratched up. It was not marketed as used, blem, open box, etc. So, as a normal consumer, I expected a new product without blemishes. I emailed their customer service about this and never received a response. Is this a typical experience with Brownells?

[@meatsweats4103]

I’d give them a call. Have never heard any negative feedback.

[@Mrgunsngear]

agreed

[@FinalLugiaGuardian]

Can we get a version of this LPVO with adjustable parallax?

[@Deleted6374]

Just curious as to what body of water you are on.

[@savageshooter8952]

@Mrgunsngear how are you running Strelok Pro on your phone? Mine was banned on the iPhone due to the SMO situation.

[@bubbabubba7868]

is there a link to show the zero for other ammo?

[@bulletjones119]

I got the eotech voodoo 1to6 ffp,i wish i would have waited for this.

[@waterboy330]

Who was the band at the end of your video?

[@Deuce_Dufresne]

Mine’s a 2020 BDC, no bending noticed

[@CollinMF]

Good video

[@Mrgunsngear]

Thank you

[@StrugglesWithWords]

How does this compare to the Eotech Vudu 1x10? The Vudu is 28 mm, that 4mm of extra light transmission seems important. And its 1k cheaper. What makes the Razor better?

[@Mrgunsngear]

video is coming

[@mario-uu9wf]

How does this scope also compare to the new trijicon credo hx 1-10? Deciding between plx 1-8, vudu 1-10, and new credo 1-10

[@gldude14-lt4qc]

Looks like a great optic but it likely falls outside the budget of most citizens. I'm not at all insinuating that Vortex is overcharging or that the LPVO is worth less, just that when you add the context of this costing about as much as a used gen 3 PVS-14 with minor blems, the benefit/cost ratio just isn't there. When an optic company makes an $1,100 ACOG look like a budget option, it's clear I am outside that company's intended market.

[@A_Marine_and_his_rifle]

I'm not saying you're wrong, but a 6x acog also costs as much as the 10X razor and idk about you, but I can really only use the acog out to 600 meters, and that's not a precise shot.

[@gldude14-lt4qc]

@@A_Marine_and_his_rifle Fair point. I was referring to a 4x ACOG, either TA31 or TA02, which admittedly has a somewhat different (but overlapping) use-case as a 1-10x. With that said, to compare prices: Trijicon 1-8x28mm VCOG -> MSRP: $2,987 Street Price: $2,099 Vortex Razor HD Gen III 1-10x24mm -> MSRP: $4,000 Street Price: $2,499. So, there is anywhere from $400 to $1,000 in savings and that's before you add the extra expense of a mount (people typically spend between $200 and $500) whereas the VCOG comes with an incorporated mount. Unfortunately, I don't have firsthand experience with either of these specific optic models (which is why I appreciate the videos from @Mrgunsngear), but does that extra 2x of magnification give you enough improvement at further ranges to warrant the price difference?

[@Rubeless]

Buy what you want. $5000 to me is different than what it is to others.

[@gldude14-lt4qc]

@@Rubeless There will always be customers that are willing to "spare no expense" to get the best product money can buy, and I don't blame companies for designing and manufacturing for those people. They just need to understand that the average customer will try to stretch their dollar as best they can and won't see products like these as a reasonable option.

[@gldude14-lt4qc]

EOTECH Vudu 1-10×28 FFP has a street price of $1500 (no mount). Same feature set and similar reticle.

[@GammaRayTrae]

Looking to add one to a 6arc precision bolt gun.

[@Rubeless]

Wrong choice

[@RikkiTikkiTavi290]

2-10 or something higher would be better.

[@GammaRayTrae]

@@Rubeless 1-10 500 and in its more than enough. If I ever go out to the western side of the US I have a 3-18 I can slap on

[@scott2228]

I have the PA GLX 1-10 FFP scope. It’s nice but 34mm vs 30mm tube would have made it even better.

[@brassvulcher8207]

all 1-10 are lame in concept to begin with

[@scott2228]

I’ve learned that. I prefer my 2.5-10 and 3-18 significantly more.

[@dimemmo]

How are you liking the summit mount? I’ve had one for a few months so far and it’s rock solid

[@Mrgunsngear]

it's solid

[@moses157]

Is the PSA jackal a battle gun?????

[@michaelebel2321]

It reminds me of a scar so I do think you could get away with turning that into a battle rifle

[@peady64]

It's PSA's interpretation of a Bushmaster ACR, so a battle rifle it is.

[@Mrgunsngear]

review is up

[@k123mc]

Man I was hoping for more crow fight commentary

[@Mrgunsngear]

😁

[@DanielSmith-qk5fs]

Does a mug club subscriptions through Mr G&G come with a mug?

[@Mrgunsngear]

yes

[@CollinMF]

Vortex is good glass

[@Mrgunsngear]

absolutely

[@vitaminme4203]

$4k is insane for an lpvo. Is it really worth that cost?

[@A_Marine_and_his_rifle]

You can get 1 at optics planet for $2300 and it is still a lot of money. The only 1 who can answer that question is you though. Do you plan on putting it on something that may save your life? Is the equipment something you would trust to save your life. Can you afford it? If the answer to all 3 of those is yes, then I say it's worth it. If not, there are other options out there.

[@vitaminme4203]

@@A_Marine_and_his_rifle I’d say no for the first 2 but yes for 3rd lol. I’m looking for a short to mid range scope for 300 blkout hunting. This seems like a good selection but price is a bit steep unless it’s the best option for the money. If there are better bang for you buck options, I’d like to weight them all out.

[@chef7734]

I prefer my 1-8 atacr with fc-dmx over my gen iii razor.

[@CollinMF]

I feel like vortex has the tightest eye box of all

[@Mrgunsngear]

you should try the Swampfox

[@klee1410]

Eh I have one.. still probably objectively the best 1-10 out there... but I'd never buy another one because, well, they run near $2k while the 1-8 plxc is $1k all day long and the eotech vudu 1-10 is $1300 all day long... the juice just isn't worth the extra squeeze.

[@adamdavis7271]

The plx isn't even worth 1k, bad glass and even worse durability, you pay for what you get