Ep. 227 | LPVO = LOVE

The Low Power Variable Optic (LPVO). One optic to rule them all or simply another great option for your AR? One thing is certain, their versatility is unmatched. Pete Schreier from Vortex Edge® Joins Mark and Jim to chat everything LPVO’s.
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[@justinm7961]

I don’t think they mentioned this once, I could have missed it but one of my favorite things about LPVO’s is the etched reticle. Same with my prisms. There is comfort level there knowing that if the illumination dies, I still have my optic.

[@Puma1Sunfire1]

As someone who suffers with an astigmatism, LPVO and Prism scopes are a GODSEND!!! Nice etched reticle stays crisp and clean vs a dot that becomes multiple ghosts dots. All my dots optics are becoming LPVO or Prisms

[@918Mitchell]

I'm with you. In my experience, batteries will always die at the worst possible time.

[@mrrod3004]

@@918Mitchell HOLOSUN will run off straight solar panel no battery.

[@dorianleclair7390]

Another benefit of lpvo is that they work when battery goes out.

[@randallcl9925]

I built an AR in 6.5 Grendel for Texas feral hogs. During the day they often find wallows and mud holes and will get into thick brush for perceived safety. I bought a SE 1-8x because you often get very close to them in the brush and sometimes they will actually charge you. The 1-8x is fantastic because it is good from a few feet away up to a few hundred yards across the field.

[@didamnesia3575]

Just put a 1-8 on and moved the red dot to 45° offset and the setup is amazing. I like it so much I bought another 1-6 for another AR. The combination is fantastic. I highly recommend giving it a try

[@didamnesia3575]

@Chano Leyva a lot of people would disagree and you obviously haven't tried it yourself. It's the way of the future. Give it a try and see for yourself. Ignorant opinions are pretty useless Edit: and btw, when I first put a red dot on a 22 target pistol 13 years ago a lot of people at the range laughed, gave me weird looks, talked crap behind my back I'm sure, thought it was useless, etc... I guess there's a market for pistol red dots though, they seem to be pretty popular now. So... don't knock it until you try it. And yeah, my 1-8 is good glass regardless of the attitude you want to convey about your own stuff vs what you think I have.

[@didamnesia3575]

@Chano Leyva of course you can do everything, you're super spy assasin Jason Bourne with 4 blackbelts and 3 mansions

[@didamnesia3575]

@Chano Leyva good for you. Nobody cares

[@MylesKillis]

The problem is the red dot offset isn’t great at the dynamic situations red dots are ideal for.

[@cw7legionofpewrights596]

I bought the 1-6 strike eagle don’t regret it and I use it both purposes for a red dot with extended magnification and a long range with a one power due to my area so being able to switch with ease is so nice to do.

[@sha6mm]

My take Marines Qualified with open sights to 500 at least I did, so don’t think you can not shoot farther. I did buy a 1-6 LPVO Razor E and it is a nice scope, mounted it on a RockRiver A4 and it makes a nice setup for my Coyote calling gun. Nice show Guys

[@bcjdwbiernfjherwfbowfib]

Same, but keep in mind that the targets at 500 yards are huge.

[@watchmanonthewall2151]

@@bcjdwbiernfjherwfbowfib Modified B Targets used at 500 have a man shaped silhouette of 20 inches wide and 40 inches tall. It's rather small. Stating it is huge is misinformation which unfortunately is common on the internet.

[@bcjdwbiernfjherwfbowfib]

@@watchmanonthewall2151 Ok, huge is relative. I am used to an 8” plate at that distance, so it is huge. Should have said my opinion, but is not mis-information. With irons it is an impressive shot.

[@rayphil9641]

I'm 65 and have had the pleasure of seeing the evolution of optics 1st hand. In the 90's I ran a police supply business and worked in law enforcement, retired after working from 81-2006. I also was a tactical officer f0r 20+ years. The advantage of the LPVO at 50-100 is the ability to make the precision shot in a hostage situation. Although I can make a head shot at 50 with a red dot, I would never attempt it with a hostage. With a LPVO at high magnification, I would take the shot if conditions were right and I had to. I shoot thousands of rounds per year and even at my age occasionally shoot the sub 1" group at 200 yards. I been building AR's since the 90's, the rifle barrel's available today are extremely accurate when properly installed. Ammunition is great. For CQB the red dot is king, a magnifier is a viable option for the reasons you've stated. I'm receiving a Vortex OPMOD 1x8, SFP today, I'm excited to put it to the test on a DMR upper I just built with a BA 16" barrel. Great Video.

[@musicman1eanda]

I love my Razor 1-6 on my 300blk. Getting predictable accuracy with subsonics with the mil reticle is pretty rad, pun intended 🤣😉

[@Deltan1967]

I remember going bunny busting back in the day with a .22 Bolt gun with a 3-9 x 40 scope. If a bunny broke from a tussock almost under you, it was an extraordinary feat to snap shoot them, and they rarely stopped for you. See through mounts were popular for a while but are very hard to find now. An LPVO should solve most issues. I'm seriously considering getting one if I ever decide to go hunting again. Unfortunately Australia isn't the same as it used to be.

[@JordanJimmyDavison]

The gun buy back may be Australia’s downfall. I hope not but we will be praying for our western allies around the world.

[@dorianleclair7390]

Yeah that really sucks they banned guns.

[@Deltan1967]

@@JordanJimmyDavison Our pollies have admitted that war with China is possible. I wonder if they will reconsider an invasion because we are so well prepared. There's a reason why Aussie soldiers are feared adversaries - we all knew how to shoot. Now? Not so much. I'm doubting Biden will come to our aid...

[@JordanJimmyDavison]

@@Deltan1967 yes the west is falling apart. America is weaker than it’s been since the civil war.

[@djcoopes7569]

@@Deltan1967 The Australian Gun community is making a comeback, we now have more guns than before 1996. Plus we have great Org's like the NSC fighting the good fight

[@stephenhair5501]

I've found that, for most hunting scenarios, I've been over powered and not really needing such levels of magnification. So, given that realization, I tried a 1-6X scope and really found some advantages. Greater field of view and lower power magnification allowed greater light available to my eye. Also went to a 1-8X scope with lighted reticle for another rifle. It's really all I need. LPVO is the way to go for me. Great video guys.

[@mr.mr.3301]

What kind of hunting and caliber?

[@stephenhair5501]

@@mr.mr.3301 Whitetail and Hogs in the Southeast.

[@mr.mr.3301]

@@stephenhair5501 in the SE as well.

[@DTWCT]

"These days, people mix up the p and the v"🤣🤣🤣

[@30rdmaga]

Lmao 🤣🤣

[@TheEDCTribe]

LPVO + Offset dot covers a lot of bases.

[@Mr.Run-n-Gun]

Seems like the red dot vs LPVO is a lot like 1-6 vs 1-10 or FFP vs SFP. They both have their place, and much of it depends on the shooter. Great info, keep em coming.

[@controvercc1098]

Currently rocking a Primary Arms 1x6 and for 400 bucks I have no complaints. Definitely down the road going to get one of your optics. They look absolutely awesome

[@jimmydunn3775]

Awesome video!! Thanks for the great information!

[@txchris1498]

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[@ericlager7604]

I enjoyed this and also realized what Justin M said in his comments. They didn't mention the etched cross hairs. I like their videos and have learned a lot. This was one of my favorites. I'm doing my 1st build(on a budget), but don't want to skimp, especially on what's most important. Going to put offset open sights on until i can add a Vortex, first sight plane 1x8 scope. Building a gun for coyotes and ground hogs. Thanks guys Keep up the great work !

[@SCQT]

Step 1) Release a Razor 2-10x36/44 FFP focused on max FOV with solid illum + adjustable parallax + locking exposed turrets (or just elev) + a reticle that is quick at 2x and ~22oz weight @~$1300-1500 Step 2) ??? Step 3) Profit Trijicon had a chance to dominate the MPVO market with the 2-10 credo but imo missed on too many points. The PA GLx is a very solid optic that would benefit greatly from better glass and illum. The NF is approx 150 years old at this point, and SFP. Solid optic, but too far behind the modern competition imo. This market segment is severely underserved. I love LPVOs, but i do feel like secondary dots can serve well enough for most up close, and you regain a LOT of mid-high mag performance when you dont have to work around the 1x. Think we just need to encourage more people to shoot past 100y, doubly so with ARs, and especially with the hopeful proliferation of 6arc. Keep crankin out solid optics. You guys are killing it.

[@Foxhound709]

I wish the 2-10 field was more competitive. With top mount/offset red dots you can do a lot with a setup like that.

[@cameronjaeger]

"These days a lot of people mix up the 'P' and the 'V'." Are we still doing "Phrasing?"

[@HobbiesWithMike]

Prism scope with a piggyback red dot is what makes most sense for me. If I need magnification I want all of it because I know my holds with that power. If I need something fast and close I got the red dot.

[@joquin4618]

❤️ love the LPVO set up 😍 on a semiautomatic rifle 🥰

[@BimmerCam22]

Thank you! Just commented asking for a LPVO video!

[@armeddiver]

Guys, I have a Razor 1-6 and a Strike Eagle 1-6 and I will never buy another Razor. The Razor is not so much better that it justifies the cost difference. I honestly can’t see any [significant] difference in clarity or quality of image between the two Optics. Furthermore, I highly prefer the BDC reticle in the Strike Eagle over the VMR in the Razor. Justin M mentioned an etched reticle and that is a very big deal for me. I use both my Razor and Strike Eagle most of the time without the illumination. I have astigmatism and the illumination in most rifle style optics, such as LPVOs, blooms too much if set high enough so that it can be seen in well lit conditions. This is a very personal opinion, but any gun I would use an LPVO on, I would not be using to shoot at distances where I would need a 10x Magnification and vice versa. FYI, my Razor had to go back to Vortex right out of the box. The vertical line in the reticle was off canter. The warranty and quality of Vortex’s products are the reasons I am a very loyal fan.

[@kasettilaukku]

In Europe LPVO:s are very popular in driven hunts. You can use them just like a red dot if they have an illuminated dot. Both eyes open, fast situations. But you still have the option to zoom in if you see something a little further away and of course it's easier to zero. I personally have a 1-5x30mm on my .308 for driven hunts for moose and deer.

[@newerest1]

what's the furthest you would encounter in a hunt out there? more of a question about terrain

[@kasettilaukku]

​@@newerest1 In driven hunts or in general? I would probably not shoot past 150 meters on a moving moose. The terrain varies a lot but mostly dense forested areas with lots of dips and hills so usually you wouldn't see past that any way. Most hunting situations are fast and the distances are around 50-70m. Moose is a much easier target than a white tail deer for example, since their motion is more predictable.

[@lancelittleton9802]

Listened to your red dot/prism/LPVO podcast yesterday, and listening to this podcast today. Excellent discussion guys. I'm one of those AR-47 weirdos, and I've only even owned red dots for a year now, but as my firearm "career" progresses, I'm seeing the increased need for magnification. For a while, I was considering a 3x prism for sort of a jack-of-all-trades, but the more I listen to your discussions, I'm thinking an LPVO and training on it is the way to go. I'm looking at the Strike Eagle 1-6, as realistically I won't be shooting past 300 yards with 7.62x39 and I'm thinking 6x is plenty of magnification (still have good eyes). Thanks again for the excellent info!

[@CM-nq3so]

I love the versatility of an lpvo for a general purpose rifle but feel just fine with a red dot at 200 yard assuming target identification is not an issue.

[@OnTheScout]

Absolutely. I saw at a battle rifle course a Aimpoint equipped AR10 get out to 600 yards consistently with an expert spotter.

[@5jump]

@@OnTheScout we were consistently hitting silhouette targets at 400m with M68 Aimpoint mounted on M4s. We had a choice between Elcan, Aimpoint, ACOGs, etc and I always chose the M68 Aimpoint. I now prefer LPVO as I think it addresses more situations. I don’t remember seeing the red dot when I was clearing rooms. I found myself looking over the barrel and using the top of the front sight post more (less tunnel vision).

[@alejandroflores-samaniego9320]

two strike eagles 1x6 1x8 and viper on my 13.9. i am extremely happy with them specially the viper 1x6

[@kolideoskope]

One of my biggest issues with LPVOs is the size; they're not significantly smaller than a regular scope and you lose the objective lens diameter for the upper end. I like the idea of a really compact 3-9x or 3-12x and sticking an rmr on top of it for true 1x. There are a few out there, but they're low-budget scopes like Barska and even that's still pretty big. Is there a geometry issue that sets a minimum for scope length? In my searching I found a Recoil article from last year about the "mpvo" and I'm wary of fads but the concept makes sense to me.

[@woodlandreconjoshdrakes5509]

Just ordered 1-8 strike eagle!!!! Super excited

[@jjbs58]

welll..... you guys missed one of THEE most important features on a lpvo . . . EYE BOX focus/target pickup. From a walking carry, how easy and accurate can you get a clear image of the lowpower reticle in an instant, as if you just walked up on some game . . .... I have both the 1x8 and 1x6 SFP strike eagles and the 1x6 is the king. Its just more forgiving... and for the price COMON'....I love it! I have the 1x6 on a Steyr Scout 6.5 CM. The weight, handiness and eye box speed on the Steyr is really noticeable; - great hunting rig

[@michaelsullivan988]

Been running a 1-4 scope for a while with a Venom at 45 degree offset. It works great.

[@jefferybrown1806]

I have a .300 blackout with a red dot and magnifier and a 5.56 with an lpvo. Both have their uses and I love both setups

[@karlantonlillester4884]

If you made a more hunting friendly reticel I would buy your LPVO

[@snoprojoe]

That would be AWESOME!

[@jacobivy2854]

I don’t find their reticles to not be hunter friendly…I love their EBR-7C reticle for all applications, both PRS shooting and hunting.

[@msquared9605]

They do

[@daithi1966]

I'm looking at one for my hunting rifle. I set my rifle up for Maximum Point Blank Range (MPBR) where I aim center of vitals for everything between 0 and 300 yards and that's where I'm taking over 90% of my shots. The LPVO is perfect for this, but it handles the 10% between 300 to maybe 600 at the upper max.

[@richardkut3976]

Another good one.

[@ancientrenegade9243]

I used to love my red dots but as age is kicking in all I see is a bright star without a magnifier behind it these days. A true 1power is essential in an lpvo though so you can use it with both eyes open. 1-8 is ideal.

[@MrJimmyWiles]

I put a crossfire 2 1-4x24 on my Christensen arms ranger 22. It’s definitely not a conventional look, but it is crisp, and very usable. Any thoughts?

[@joshuabennett7334]

The old standby on the east coast for hunting has always been the 3x9 but I really find a 1x6 is a far better east coast scope unless you are field hunting so I keep two deer rifles a shorter handier gun like a browning BLR in 308 with a 1x6 and it can do pretty much everything but for those odd ball corn field sits I keep a 270 bolt gun with a 4x12 for the long pokes

[@lk9456]

I’ve got a 1-6 strike eagle on a 22lr and a 1-8 on a 22wmr, 223 and 270 For close hunting they’re so much more comfortable, quick and easy to use, realistic all are gonna be used to 200m or less, tho I have shot the 270 to 500 and it does it easy

[@josephwilson4178]

I can’t wait until there’s an opmod edition of the ffp strike eagle

[@mrfawkes9110]

I found that the 1x on all the LPVOs I've tried was NOT the equal of a dot no matter how good, and if it got close the high magnification suffered. I just found myself running my 1x-6x at 4x in all scenarios so my SWFA 6x42 went back on, now with a piggyback pistol dot. I'm far more comfortable with this setup than the LPVO and it's still lighter with the RMR than the LPVO without.

[@HB-kp6rl]

Being right handed, left eye dominant, red dots are the way for me. I can track the dot with my right eye better than i can with a lovo. Im working through it and want to be as fast as i can with an lpvo.

[@eggbert191]

Shoot left handed

[@brianleverich4467]

Do you have a carry handle mount 1 -4 like the old colt 3 power I don’t like the one from brownells

[@joehuff4025]

I run a strike eagle 2 , 1-6 on my 11.5 gun and I’m not sure spending the money for the razor would make the gun better.

[@draconus15]

Currently setting up my dpms orical in 308. It's going to be a hunting/ walking the fence gun in medium brush and decent tree cover. At the same time I need something I can reach across a 150-200 yard field for that random coyote that pops up. Currently leaning towards a strike eagle or crossfire

[@Mountain-Man27]

Get the strike eagle, there’s a substantial difference in glass quality and it’s worth it imo

[@draconus15]

@@Mountain-Man27 I'm saving up for good glass now. I took off the random lpvo off of an AR 15 I have not the best but it's rated for the shock from what I can tell. Probably will go with the strike eagle just fro the reticle difference

[@lukaswetterstrand6780]

I shot 5 roe deers last season with my pst gen 2 1-6, perfect scope for driven hunts in the thicc forests of sweden. Only wish it was 200-300 grams lighter (fingers crossed for a lightweight vortex lpvo 🤞)

[@jamesdomenico2953]

I am not sure using night vision passively with a LVPO or any other Tube optic at thing. I have briefly played with that and getting lined up seems next to impossible. Especially at speed.

[@jianliu9420]

so what quality mount can you suggest?

[@garyadolph3682]

Hello, I have enjoyed your podcast on KZbin. I have a unique question that I need some help with in deciding on which Fort scope that I’m going to purchase is there anyway that I can speak with someone at Vortexx to help me answer that question and make a decision.I am considering the venom 1 to 6 or the viper 1 to 6 and the second focal plane. Thank you in advance for any information you can provide.

[@captainmorgan5106]

I think the LPVO's definitely give more accuracy. A cross hair goes along ways. I use to shoot tweety birds out to about 40 yards with a 44 mag Blackhawk with a 2x fixed. I definitely wouldn't have been as comfortable with a red dot.

[@robertsebacher44]

How does a lpvo 1-8 or 1-10 compare to a traditional 3x9 hunting scope if all are 2nd focal plane. I use the maximum point blank range method of shooting.

[@The10thManRules]

It's still important to make sure a dead at 50 yards isn't carrying a small pistol or a knife. Better safe than sorry.

[@charlesrachac1900]

Have you ever considered a two and a half to eight with the illuminated reticle there's your Red Dot and there's your low power go optic

[@mikekennemer7737]

Im looking at a Vortex Strike Eagle 1-8x24mm 30mm FFP . My friends are telling me Im waisting my money. Can you give me your opinion (please). Im putting it on my AR-10 Also what mount should I get?

[@williamkillingsworth2619]

5-25x scope with a red dot 45offset. Use the red dot for 100 and in. I can spot my hits and misses at 1060 yards on 25x zoom.

[@johndayhoff8898]

Like the scout scopes of yesteryear?

[@MrRdvs87]

I want to drop some 1-4 or maybe 6x’s on a .30-30 and .35 rem but between the optics costing more than the guns and the fact that I take most of my shots on game inside of 100 yards, it’s hard to justify. Then, there’s the fact that if I’m not hunting, I’m not likely to be using them much.

[@pjnelson8971]

You might be better served by putting receiver mounted aperture sights on those rifles.

[@MrRdvs87]

@@pjnelson8971, not my speed.

[@918Mitchell]

30-30 is a fine round, I would do a 1-6 on it. I feel like I would have buyer's remorse if I put a 1-4 on a rifle that can reach out as far as the 30-30 is capable of. I have a 1-4 on my 16" AR and a 1-6 on my 20" 223 Wylde

[@manythreadsjs]

​@@918Mitchellin

[@mr.mr.3301]

How do they do with light transmission?

[@tsafa]

I need them to build me a 1 to 15 lpvo. The Red Dot and magnifier Reigns Supreme if all you need is magnification. LPVO for bullet drop, range estimating, windholds, leading targets, team navigation. It drives me crazy that people don't know how to use all the features of an lpvo. If the lpvo is not capable of doing these things then it's a piece of junk. Use a red dot with a magnifier or get a better lpvo.

[@rogerlittle354]

Also have 1x8 strike eagle on 6 arc 600 yards easy

[@bradbo3]

Cant lose with red dot or lpvo…..I several of both…all vortex. All my turkey and small game shotguns are red dots….an AR or two have LPVO and two have red dots. Im older to….so i need red dots or lpvo….cant see irons anymore…unless its a big ghost ring.

[@waylove04]

I wish they put the BDC of the strike Eagle in the 1x10. I think the strike Eagle is the best LPVO for the price.

[@rudolphferdinand3634]

This Vortex isn't an LPVO, but it is low enough just outside of that (1) power scope; the Vortex 2-10x PST, but it will give up to (10) power range if needed.

[@WestPat23]

Jimmy-It’s an acrostic if you can say it but an acronym if you can spell it.

[@user-pq4by2rq9y]

Suggestion: 8.6mm blackout Is there something behind that hype?

[@whatittooye]

Just call it 338. Its an imperial cartridge not metric, noone is gonna understand what 8.6 is until they look it up like i did.

[@user-pq4by2rq9y]

@@whatittooye but 338 is the caliber of the bullet, not the name of the cartridge. Anyway I added the millimeter designation for clarification.

[@whatittooye]

@@user-pq4by2rq9y 338BLK still sounds better in my opinion then 8.6MMBLK, im just sayin not many is gonna understand metric here in the US since its not used at all besides a few cartridges

[@newerest1]

Is there going to be a MPVO revolution? Something like an amazing 2.5-15 that just blows everything away and people start to debate 1x to 2.5?

[@Mountain-Man27]

Plenty of companies make 2-10s and 3.5-18s

[@aidenmcclendon5457]

March scopes 1.5-15 only $3k lol

[@patrickkohls4041]

Love mine....but I have a eotech vudu 1to6

[@JVR-gd7zw]

I run 1-8 on my bolt gun and live and hunt on oregon coast.

[@georgebarreto6022]

I would like to know more about the amounts lpvo

[@Haikewargame]

Follow us, we have many models of ipvo with different prices

[@AnonYmous-dp4by]

Hey, can we get an employee discount?

[@joebob4609]

7.62x39 for hunting. Go

[@JordanJimmyDavison]

Hunting what game?

[@joebob4609]

Whitetails and hogs. 150 yards and in.

[@918Mitchell]

@@joebob4609 I have a family friend who used to hunt mule deer in Eastern Montana with his bone stock Chinese SKS and got his deer every year until he passed away a few years ago. 7.62x39 is an excellent hunting round for deer up to 300-400 yards if you're a good shot.

[@traceyevans2757]

The strike eagle is so fuckin annoying because it’s the 1-8 I want but that stupid ass BDC reticle kills it. the pst genii is only offered in a 1-6 but it has the basic VMR-2 reticle I want.

[@thedirtygot9570]

For hunting a 50mm is optimal!

[@MichaelLeopold1]

LVPO all the way

[@GammaRayTrae]

Just wish they had a longer battery life and they weighed a bit less. Outside of that lpvo all the way

[@gavinsloma]

Maybe some day , but this is a lot of glass and gear thing Red dot and magnifyer plus more in one unit

[@JordanJimmyDavison]

When is Vortex getting into the NV game?!?!

[@JordanJimmyDavison]

Red dot + magnifiers vs lvpo?????

[@KNJensen]

Lukas Botkin (Trex Arms) made a really nice video on that subject.

[@JordanJimmyDavison]

@Chano Leyva I have both just wanted to see what the community would say.

[@saskdad115]

Where does a guy get a 1.93" mount and not have to spend $600 on it!?? - In Canada...

[@mrrod3004]

WHAT I DONT GET IS WHY MY 300$ SCOPES LOOK AS CLEAR AS MY 2400$ SCOPES..

[@louiss.w1944]

It’s funny how they’re talking about using the optics for target identification when it’s literally against the law up here in Canada when hunting…

[@bodiewest9202]

Lpvo = love because LPVO = $$$

[@mobilegamersunite]

3X for me all day 😃

[@jdmznet]

So if you said it, it would be "LaPiVO"?

[@rogerlittle354]

Shoot my strike eagle 1x6 out to 600 yards no problem

[@Fr1ti4e88]

Do you have one under $300 ?

[@BimmerCam22]

Sig MSR! Or vortex 1-8 on Palmetto state armory

[@logan7331]

Vortex Crossfire II range has some affordable scopes, one which I use currently on one of my hunting ars. Some are under $200 even!

[@918Mitchell]

Athlon makes a 1-4 SFP for $200

[@firemedic23-5]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/hpClZmeGnbapabc Here is a Phoenix PD officer using a LPVO to make, what I presume is a headshot, on a man holding a baby hostage. Just before he shoots you can see him hitting the throw lever.

[@marcush4741]

English major who realized AFTER college that the only way he might succeed is in the infantry. Its acronym vs initialization. Not acronym vs alphabetism. Yes, I know Im gonna get hazed again. But shit, its worth correcting an anonymous writer.

[@jackjmaheriii]

Great opening clip! LPVOs are not red dots, and no amount of training will get them there. BUT if you’re going predator hunting and might jump a hog on the walk in LPVOs are fantastic.

[@jackjmaheriii]

First, no one says “tactical drills.” You probably lie to strangers about how you used to be a sniper too. Second, even the best LPVOs struggle with eye relief and eye box compared to RDS. In fact, when the loop hole is low enough to the ground you can’t get a sight picture at all. For your convenience I’ve attached some notes from our instructor guide. Ways RDS+Magnifier is better… -Passive aiming under NODs is possible -Performs much better in rain, dust, and mud -Much more durable -Lighter than comparable LPVO -Much faster at close-far-close shooting -Parallax free at 0 power -Eye relief is infinite -Eye box is much larger If the shooting is dynamic, athletic, and inside 200m RDS+Magnifier is still a significantly better option. As they discuss in this podcast, LPVOs really start to dominate when the shooting priority lies outside 300m.

[@Austin-uq9ms]

@Chano Leyva lmao you are a fool. Just delete your comment

[@jayowens1072]

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[@d.j.9961]

Funny how We the People have a Right to keep & bare arms yet, It is okay for a officer to shoot someone holding a firearm?