Who is the KING of L.P.V.O (Low Power Variable Optic) Scopes?

[@michaelangelo3332]

So we're just going ignore the S&B pm2, NF ATACR, March shorty , Kahles etc etc the real kings of LPVO

[@Fister_of_Muppets]

​@Black Flag Gotta go with my man Michael on this one. The PA is a very nice optic. But that S&B, Nightforce, Valdada, and certainly the high-end Kahles scopes are all top-shelf, they are all as premium as it gets. The PA is one step down from those... which is still about 5 steps above Monstrum lol.

[@chef7734]

Exactly. Can't even tack this video serious. The Nx8 and atacr blow these out of the water.

[@ericc2530]

The new kahles is on a whole other level

[@bradpowell843]

Totally agree! Complete waste of a video.

[@MrTylero28]

So far I’ve found the best glass with the best reticle best feature set came with the new primary arms PLx compact 1-8 it’s an absolute beast of a lpvo. Amazingly clean and clear glass and the griffin reticle is very easy to use for longer distance shots. But the 1x is fast. I also own the razor 1-6x as well as the viper pst gen2. Both are excellent options. But. Bang for the buck. I’d say primary arms killed it on the compact platinum series Japanese made and all around near perfect. Biggest thing I noticed. The bezel around the eye piece disappears when looking through the scope

[@mavrikmavrik3032]

I've almost bought one of these PLxC several times but I keep hearing mixed reviews on the 1x performance especially with the "daylight red" illumination. My Razor II 1-6 provides almost the same performance as a good red dot at 1x and that's important to me. Which do you like better at 1x shooting at 20 yards an under and why?

[@Xinthisis]

​@@mavrikmavrik3032 With the stadia lines you dont really need red hot bright dot at 1x.

[@nathanleonard2245]

You're correct, best lpvo u can get so far

[@michaelr.l.militia8921]

Your LPVO Survey is WAY INCOMPLETE! Primary Arms PLx Compact 1-8x24mm FFP, Illuminated ACSS Raptor M8 Meter Reticle... is the King! All YT Reviews EXCELLENT...! How could you MISS IT?

[@d5rangesmarengo]

Most of Primary Arms options are very good optics to go with from mid to high tier.

[@shooterray8160]

Decent scope…but still falls short of the 3 LPVO kings…Kahles, S&B, and Nightforce

[@wilsoncombat1341]

@@shooterray8160 Nightforce is no where near S&B its in a different zip code

[@signkutter9218]

​@@wilsoncombat1341 The plxc 1x8 is a better bjy than the NF offerings.

[@wilsoncombat1341]

@@signkutter9218 Cant get past the outer design and build on them yet for that money they still look and feel cheap. PA needs to revamp their marketing maybe offer the higher end stuff under another name. PA is still understood by most as a cheap chinese scope maker and its hard to shake that after years of acss this and that chinese stuff

[@shooterray8160]

Looked through all of them and ultimately settled on the Kahles K16i with the 3GR reticle. It has made a huge improvement in my action shooting and because of the reticle and glass quality, I’m able to get first round hits out past 600 consistently. Te reticle also allows me to easily remember holdovers at multiple ranges targets.

[@2A.Freedom]

I have the k18i 3gr. It's so freakin nice dude. I love Kahles. The quality is second to none.

[@isprado]

@@2A.Freedom I just received the new Kahles K18i-2 1-8x24mm 3GR 😍 Bad ass glass 150 degree Field of View- Wow! No comparision...

[@slowmo7500]

I’ve been looking at the PA 1-8 Compact…16.9oz..😎

[@d5rangesmarengo]

Primary Arms makes some solid optics.

[@michaelr.l.militia8921]

Buy It Now... You Won't Be Sorry! Bought mine 1,430.00 (1,499.00) Black Friday Sale Thanksgiving 2022... All YT Reviews Excellent! Primary Arms PLx Compact 1-8x24mm FFP, Illuminated ACSS Raptor M8 Meter Reticle...

[@MrTylero28]

I own one it’s the best option. I picked it over a nightforce the plx 1-8 compact is the best scope on the market at the price point compared to anything right now you won’t beat it

[@MrTylero28]

@@michaelr.l.militia8921 I prefer the griffin reticle but the raptor is just as useful. They locked down the entire lpvo game in my opinion

[@bradyeason9638]

I bought one. Get it, you wolnt regret it one bit. It’s incredible

[@mavrikmavrik3032]

The Razor HD Gen II is $1300 to $1400 not $2400. The Gen III is $2400 and considered by many inferior to the Gen II for the 1-6 performance.

[@derekmclv]

LOL - Primary Arms 1-8 smokes all of these, and it has ACSS!

[@surfingtothestars]

I chose the Trijicon VCOG due its integrated mount and it’s built like a tank

[@d5rangesmarengo]

VCOG is a great choice.

[@Michael-ex8lk]

That price point though......

[@turdferguson2863]

Weighs as much as a tank too

[@surfingtothestars]

@@turdferguson2863 that is true. It’s def built for men

[@davefoster7619]

I bought a Leupold VR HOG back when it was just known as a 1X4 scope. (not LPVO) Pretty happy with it

[@noname-rv7yh]

Nice video. It would be cool to see a top 5 or top 10

[@d5rangesmarengo]

Stay tuned, there will be a video broken down by price tiers. Best top 5: low, mid, and high price

[@tylertapp131]

Mm... I'll stick to my PA Plx-c 1-8 in a unity mount. Its been pretty awesome for me and considering it was the first one ive ever bought, im pretty damn happy with it. I was stuck on dot and magnifier setups for a real long time, played with a few of my buddies lpvo's like NF ATACR and a few other high end optics and for the money i felt i did pretty good.

[@d5rangesmarengo]

PA makes great optics. Stay tuned for PA to be in our next LPVO video.

[@jimjones516]

Very nice video. I know everybody has their own opinions on things, but I did stop in the other day and see that you guys carry the Steiner line and I would choose them over Vortex. Awesome believe it or not I have a Swampfox 1 to 10 on my scar 17 and after 2000 rounds it still is holding true with no issues. A little shocked by that.

[@d5rangesmarengo]

Steiner makes some stunning optics and is always a quality option. The Scar 17 is widely known as an optics killer, glad to hear your S.F. is holding up.

[@pplebite8844]

Whoa..... Khales 16i SM1, has much to say about your 'Crowning' of Eotech.

[@boygonewhoopdataZZ]

Eotech Vudu 🤣, y'all should've just said this was an advertisement

[@johnnolan6889]

Dude right lmao

[@d5rangesmarengo]

We have no affiliation, sponsorship, or endorsement from any of the companies in this video. This is just our opinion based on our testing and review. We will dive deeper into this subject in future videos.

[@milspecmike8440]

Waited for the Razor 1-10 to go on sale, got it for MSRP of the Vudu. Daylight bright dot, smooth mag ring, great glass

[@kyledescourouez1181]

When did it go on sale?

[@milspecmike8440]

@@kyledescourouez1181 it goes on sale periodically just have to keep your eyes open online.

[@Mikey5-O]

Very happy with my TR24. Although only 4X, it’s rugged, light weight and has clear glass. It suits my needs perfectly.

[@sha6mm]

Vortex Razor E. For me as it’s phenomenal scope !

[@Reedo302]

Vudu would be an excellent optic if the illumination was daylight bright (RDS bright). It's right in-between daylight visible and daylight bright. If it was brighter, I'd put it higher than a lot of other scopes on the market, but since it's not quite there due to FFP design limitations, it lags behind some of the competition.

[@HDInstrumental1]

Could you please tell us how many rounds have you ran through that SCAR-17 with the Vudu on top?

[@sigma02chi]

So if the Vortex was equal price wise to the Eotech would you give the crown to Vortex ?

[@chace96]

Nothing beats the reticles on the primary arms Optics. They have the easiest and fastest ranging reticles. May I suggest a test of speed & use for part 2 of this comparison. Use an open field with your normal half man size steel targets. Place the targets at unknown distances. Test how fast operators can put rounds on target.

[@mikemuha7537]

Burris has excellent options and their XRTII was my choice.

[@VB6000.]

So many affordable Chinese versions of these optics now. Thank goodness. I could never afford an optic more expensive than my rifle.

[@TriggerHappyRob]

How much money did eotech give you for this.

[@d5rangesmarengo]

Eotech did not sponsor, endorse or pay us.

[@RogerSmith-lc9lo]

Shows how competitive these LPVO scopes are……personal preference is a big factor to consider….dang it, which one do I want?

[@d5rangesmarengo]

Absolutely a personal preference and a hard decision.

[@pittwm]

Wow… the video I was watching previously from 9 holes completely dissed VUDU.

[@sectorseven07]

That's because the Vudu fucking sucks compared to multiple other offerings in its price range. But this youtube channel is a gun range that has a vested interest in what they're recommending.

[@deltacrew4122]

I had to go with the Vortex Razor 1-6 Gen II, I was able to get it at a very good price.

[@d5rangesmarengo]

Sometimes you just find a great price and have to go with it! Price is the only thing that held me back on that optic.

[@fmt5327]

I’ve tired a few as well. NX8 1-8, Vudo 1-6 and 8, I stuck with the Razor 1-6.

[@Reedo302]

Razor Gen2 1-6x is the gold standard for LPVOs

[@deltacrew4122]

@@Reedo302 Yes! A couple of respected KZbinrs have referred to the Razor Gen2 as the gold standard... I decided it was worth the extra $

[@Mills141]

Id never buy an scope that didn't have an lifetime warranty when there are PA and Vortex that are great scopes and can last forever

[@sectorseven07]

Man you may want to curate your content a bit before you release stuff. The Gen II razor you're referring to can be had for less than 1k if you get the non E version and around 1400 with the E version. You're referencing the Gen III 1-10 in your price quote.

[@GammaRayTrae]

I purchased the sig tango 6t over the vudu, just preferred it over the vudu

[@gob7116]

Not quite sure why your Razor Gen2s are 2 grand. 2Es can be had for roughly the same price as a vudu.

[@sectorseven07]

Because it's a gun shop that probably got a great dealer pricing on Vudus and therefore put out intentionally misleading content about vortex razors in order to increase their bottom line.

[@patrickr2553]

100% agree with the vudu. I work at a gun counter and we sell them. Looking through the 1-10x it was immediately clear to me that it was a super quality product. I actually turned to my coworker and said “wow”!

[@student1979oct]

Dial it up to ten and see what the glass quality is like. The one I got my hands on was not very impressive above 8ish.

[@merc6]

I guess you never experienced Primary Arms.

[@grinconschloeter]

For me, primay arms plx compact is better!

[@d5rangesmarengo]

It is a great optic. Glad to hear that you like it so much.

[@nathanleonard2245]

Definitely

[@22leggedsasquatch]

Khales? Swarovski? S&B??

[@MegaCrashfistfight]

I think the best one is the one you purchase

[@josephsantana3094]

The Razor gen 2 is $1400 in the real world lol everyone knows street pricing on Vortex stuff is way below their inflated msrp. Meanwhile the Eotech is astoundingly mediocre and the 1-6 and 1-8 variants are priced comparably to the Razor gen 2. The Razor also has better glass, eyebox, and illumination... I'm not sure if Eotech would pay a channel with 200 subscribers but this whole video comes off as an Eotech sponsored commercial....

[@sectorseven07]

Agreed. Also super disingenuous to say the HD Gen II is 2400 dollars when it's literally 850 dollars and he was quoting the 1-10 Gen III. I'd honestly delete the video and start all over again.

[@furr666]

No SwampFox??

[@d5rangesmarengo]

Stay tuned!

[@donniebunch1897]

You need to do a KING of LPVO with cost of under $1,000.00 dollars!

[@d5rangesmarengo]

That is a video we will be do that video in the future.

[@sectorseven07]

...it's the vortex razor HD gen II that he referenced in the video as 2400 dollars (even though you can get them for 850 on Euro Optic)

[@scottclaiborne5123]

Delta Stryker HD 1-6; best LPVO for the money. Love mine.

[@d5rangesmarengo]

This is one that we didn't get our hands on. I will add this optic to our follow-up video. What do you like most about that optic?

[@scottclaiborne5123]

@@d5rangesmarengo I'll probably get flamed for this, but the optic is made in the same, Japanese factory as the Razor HD 1-6 and has the same, daylight bright reticle BUT/AND is only 17 ounces in weight. Check out C-DOES and SupsetCA reviews on the Delta Stryker HD 1-6. Only question is durability and I don't plan on dropping mine to find out. It's held up great in several rifle classes.

[@d5rangesmarengo]

@@scottclaiborne5123 Thank you for your input. I look forward to testing it out.

[@peterfrancisco4510]

You need a location in the loop

[@MegaCrashfistfight]

Love you my friends America

[@jgvermeychuk]

Trijicon VCOG 1-8 is the toughest.

[@vanderwell07ify]

Steiner p4xi

[@slavitopalov364]

Swarovski z8 1x8-24

[@JUSTAGUY1000]

Not even daylight bright, center dot too big. Left a whole bunch off the list that are better. And the gen 2 razor is not that much anywhere. Think you mean the gen 3.

[@anatoliusmaximus3483]

EO Tech promo video….

[@марияагафоник]

Brown David White Daniel Lewis Paul

[@skeetskeetmfer]

This is terribly inaccurate and misleading content 🤦‍♂️

[@michaelr.l.militia8921]

skeetskeetmfer... C'om... Why? Please Explain... We'd All Like to Know... Don't Be Shy!

[@sectorseven07]

@@michaelr.l.militia8921 He lied about the price on vortex razors, didn't include the cons on the vudu whatsoever, didn't cover a plethora of optics in a similar pricing category that beat the vudu. It reeks of a gun shop having dealer pricing trying to push an optic that's stuck in their inventory.

[@boneharvester_eth4021]

Vcog. It’s the offical optic of United States marine corp. everything else is just…. 👀 😢

[@sweetteaoutdoors]

I don't put a lot of stock in something being the "official" anything of a military branch. The military has a long history of adopting things that were not the "best." Lots of politics and back room deals go in to things being adopted by the military. More about the bottom line than quality or safety of a soldier.... Sad but true! Been like that for well over 100 years.

[@ElsinoreRacer]

Arken just released a 1-8 LPVO with a 34mm tube. Here we go again. It will be 95% as good as the $2000 units. For $400. Then comes all the crying.

[@carlannerstedt6796]

Four weeks ago, 4.500 Swedish crowns

[@АндрійНіколаєв-й3д]

NF NX8 1-8

[@johnhatchel9681]

It's all about red dots and magnifiers now.

[@jessidiahwilson1103]

This video told me absolutely nothing

[@sweetteaoutdoors]

What!?!?!?! No Monstrum?????? Such a crock of 💩!!! JK, just suprised someone has thrown that garbage up here as king!!! NOT trying to butt hurt anyone, if it's the best you can afford, including most PA stuff, then nothing wrong with it. Just isn't the best available by any means. Now if it was best "budget" LPVO, we can have a legit discussion. Their high end stuff is good, but wouldn't consider for myself when I want a top tier offering.

[@levilivingston982]

Real people can’t afford this stuff.

[@martingarcia2844]

Yeah we bearly have money for bulking ammunition 😂

[@student1979oct]

Priorities. Now, I understand some people, maybe many people, can barely afford to HAVE a rifle to play with, much less get decent optics for it, but if you're just slightly above that level a few months saving can get you the optic you want/need IF you're willing to sacrifice/wait for it.

[@ELEV8AZ1]

We can though, just comes down to choices and priorities

[@methanesprings4085]

Vudu….. lol no

[@ericjones745]

Primary arms all the way. Best lpvo for the price.