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In classic Weatherby form, the 6.5 RPM is built for speed! That’s the only classic Weatherby thing about this cartridge. RPM stands for rebated precision magnum - a dramatic departure from their traditional offerings. Maximizing the efficiency of 6.5mm bullets, as well as the entire Mark V 6-lug action, should it be more popular? We think so! Tune in to hear all about this modern-cartridge marvel.
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[@Jason-nt5gr]

I feel like Ryan is so knowledgeable, he can answer your question before you ask it. You: “Hey, Ryan…” Ryan: “Standard .308 bolt face.” You: 😲

[@Wheelchair-bear]

YOU JERKS!!!!!! BECAUSE OF YOUR AWESOME VIDEOS, I HAVE BOUGHT 4 NEW RIFLES IN 4 DIFFERENT CARTRIDGES!!!! A 204 RUGER IN A Tikka SS VARMINTER, 240 WEATHERBY VANGUARD , 6.5 RPM WEATHERBY IN A MARK V ACCUMARK LIMITED, AND 270 WEATHERBY ACCUMARK. I LOVE THEM ALL!; AND YOU GUYS TOO. I APOLOGIZE FOR CALLING YOU JERKS, KEEP UP GODS GOOD WORK BY SHARING SUCH POSITIVE ENERGY.

[@blaircalvin5025]

😂😂😂

[@danstearns7141]

Would love to hear a talk about 6.5-300 weatherby and the 30-378 weatherby!

[@zebacake4683]

6.5-06 for the win

[@bradkiewiet4268]

​@@zebacake4683yes I've always been intrigued by the 6.5-06 myself

[@LRRPFco52]

​@@zebacake46836.5-06 has too long of a powder column for that propellant mass. 6.5 PRC or 6.5 Sherman Short are the better way to go if you want consistent performance.

[@chadperry4021]

@@zebacake4683 The 6.5 RPM basically is a product improved 6.5-06.

[@chadwood4296]

Off topic a little, but how about a conversation on 25-06 with some of the new 131BJ, 133 &135 gr. Bullets, or even with a 134 gr. ELD-M that Hornady is coming out with in 2023.. imo, I think the 25's are on there way back into the spotlight.

[@sha6mm]

That is so close to my .264 Win Mag Nosler 130gr AB at 3208FPS out of a 24 inch barrel. Oh it also just uses a standard long action and Nosler makes brass for it as well. Nice show Guys. I just use mine for Deer Antelope and Caribou so far.

[@debi5292]

This new stuff is all about selling new rifles to the youngsters who have little experience with anything not on the internet. It is like the world never existed until they reached adulthood. We end up with 20 new calibers and no support of any that are pre internet. Crazy foolishness, as the "book" was written before their time. Men have been melting chamber throats with ultra-high velocity for decades. These people will never shoot enough to notice. These young men should invest in a set of Gun Digests for the last 40 years. They might learn something.

[@raywells2858]

I was kinda thinking the same thing as this 6.5 RPM seems more like a duplication than a significant improvement over the 264 Win Mag. I am surprised the 264 Win Mag hasnt seen a resurgence in popularity with the 6.5 caliber trend thats all the rage today, especially since we have better powders and bullets for it now a days.

[@LRRPFco52]

​@@raywells2858.264 Win Mag had its limelight robbed by the 7mm Rem Mag, and was forgotten by most, even though it was the cartridge to beat for point blank zero with 140gr. 6.5 PRC delivers better performance than the 6.5x284 without a belt, fits in a short action.

[@GallopingWalrus]

Another 10 Minute Talk, another day of me asking for either a talk on the WSSM's, or even more obscure but cool, the .30 Remington AR.

[@LRRPFco52]

Yes, yes! 25 WSSM is beautiful. .30 RAR needs a 2.500" COL and cats based off it.

[@davidmcneil1550]

Well thanks Ryan. You sold me on the cartridge. Which means I now have my second Weatherby rifle. Got it in the 2.0 backcountry.

[@brycehiigel235]

We got my wife the Weatherby Mark V in the Camilla 6.5rpm last year for Christmas. She absolutely loves shooting it. This year in our 27years of marriage she applied for her first hunting license a deer tag and drew a doe. She was able to fill the freezer with a 111yd shot. Using the Weatherby Barnes lrx 127. Upon dressing the doe out I noticed the lungs were mush. I myself haven’t killed a deer with a rifle as of yet, I mainly archery hunt so I haven’t seen the destruction with rifles. It brought a whole new light to the 6.5 cause all you hear about is the creedmoor which I am tired of kind of like an over played song

[@LRRPFco52]

6.5 PRC really crushes the 6.5CM if the argument is steering towards a bolt action for hunting. 6.5CM is so ubiquitous now that it fills entire shelves with options at big stores, so it has availability and affordability in its favor.

[@peterray5935]

Of all the Weatherby cartridges, this one interests me the most.

[@genekelley7579]

🛑🛑 If want to shoot a really nice Weatherby Cartridge, try the 257 Weatherby Magnum. 👍 Laser Flat. Hits like a 30 Caliber, but with the recoil of a 243 Winchester. I killed a 200lbs Black Bear, and a Deer this year within 3 days with my Deluxe Mark V AccuMark 257 Weatherby Mag. 😀👍

[@josephvillegas639]

This cartridge and the 257 Weatherby are the only 2 cartridges that intrigue me from the Weatherby line; 270 WSM, which I have; the 7mm PRC and 6mm creedmooor are others that peak my interest...

[@Bowstringdotcom]

@@genekelley7579 The 257 Weatherby has almost the same recoil of a 7mm Rem mag! And because of that ALMOST the same energy too. Its awesome! The reason it hits so hard, is that it recoils more than a 243! So I can't agree with the comparison, maybe you can say it recoils like a 270 win, I'll agree to that, but not a 243.

[@Bowstringdotcom]

I will say this, anyone that is a "Weatherby Hater" better wake up, the 6.5 RPM is probably the BEST 6.5 ever made! It is closer in performance to a 7mm Rem mag, than a 6.5 PRC. It's impressive.

[@genekelley7579]

@@Bowstringdotcom To be honest, I’ve never shot a 270. 💯 I’ve shot a 30-06 most of my hunting career (50 years) and a 243 as I got older. I carried my 257 Weatherby Mark V (AccuMark) exclusively this past season, and was able to take a 200# Black Bear, and a White Tailed Doe with it. I’m truly impressed with the performance of the 257 Weatherby and the Accuracy is Outstanding. 😀👍💯

[@frontlinerejects8029]

Thank you for another great cartridge talk! Would love to see 7.5 Swiss!

[@michaellane4003]

Frontline Rejects! You guys do a great job on your videos too.😊

[@colemanmize3779]

Merry Christmas to all of you at the Vortex Nation Podcast! Thanks for a great year of content! Keep up the great work and Happy New Year to you all!

[@matthewknight1910]

Thanks for the vid. 22 Hornet next please!

[@yamahondazuki95]

So happy these are back. I'd love to see the .35 Remington!!

[@20alroco]

Ryan is the "man wit da plan", whatever that plan might be. I'm certain that if Ryan had a hand in designing the plan it would be extremely successful. Anyone who can keep the same cellphone for 6 years gets my vote of confidence.

[@pogeegitz]

The ballistics are almost identical to a 6.5 PRC - factory loads are within 10 fps of each other. Hand loading the PRC can get almost 3200 fps out of a 127LRX. I have a Weatherby Vanguard in 6.5 PRC and love it. Not sure why you'd want a proprietary cartridge that's hard to find ammo, brass, and dies for.

[@Weatherby406]

Yeah my 6.5-300 Weatherby can push the 127 lrx 3530 with factory ammo. 6.5rpm fits in their 4.9lb rifle. That’s why they made it.

[@pogeegitz]

@@Weatherby406 yeah, and the 6.5-300 destroys shoulders and barrels faster than a .26 AI

[@atomicwedgie8176]

Necked down quarter-bore PRC with a Swift 120 grain partition, would be my dream cartridge... sigh

[@58harwood]

As a lot have already said, the 6.5 PRC and RPM are almost ballistically identical on paper! The PRC components are cheaper and more plentiful, so is the factory ammo. That alone is enough reason to choose the PRC. Choosing the RPM would be retarded!

[@MyHuntingJournal]

@@pogeegitz that doesn't change the fact you can shave over a full pound off your rifle doing a 6.5rpm over a prc...

[@eskimo_airgunner2314]

Fudd Alert: Actually, the first modern space age short-fat cartridge was the 7.5x55 Swiss (GP11) circa 1890, of which you can use the later developed 284 Winchester brass in when it is necked up to 30 cal. I have a 1958 Model 88 Winchester and a few early 40's K31 Swiss rifles. The brass is interchangeable. The rim diameter is slightly different but fits.

[@Titan-iw7xv]

You guys are awesome, thanks again.

[@ethanwendt8047]

Do the 6.5-300 Weatherby and talk about barrel life

[@NomadicHacker.]

This truly makes this the most wonderful time of the year

[@putmeoutdoors]

Thanks for the vid and knowledge on another great cartridge.

[@localcoastanglers6660]

Do a cartridge talk on the 7mm PRC!!! ive seen everyone of you guys's cartridge talks and spaghetti shootouts #teamMark

[@exothermal.sprocket]

Hornady makes a 190gr bullet running .838 BC (G1 scale) in 7mm, .337 sectional density. Berger makes a 195gr bullet running .755 BC (G1 scale) in 7mm, .345 sectional density. Those are pretty wild numbers.

[@LRRPFco52]

195gr EOL is amazing on steel at distance.

[@thomascarson2838]

Rpm is a very capable cartridge, however I do not see it ever being popular. Most doesn't even know it exists. The hot topic is PRC.

[@Marcus-jg4jb]

Love having more of these! Would love to hear one on the 338 RPM, 303 British, and maybe the 8.5 Blaser.

[@mj23isthebest]

I’ve got one and love it.

[@joebob4609]

Y’all still haven’t done 7.62x39

[@conner6324]

+1

[@masone4589]

300 Win Mag either

[@joebob4609]

@@masone4589 I’ve been bad scoped by my 300 win so they can skip it.

[@masone4589]

@@joebob4609 gotta hold on like a grown man

[@REDNECKROOTS]

Cuz it's an anemic piece of crap.

[@strugglebusbonsai]

Ryan mentioned my fave - the .240 Wby Mag! I have one with a 9-lug bolt.

[@jeffprewitt7207]

Don't know where you guys are shopping but RPM ammo is very difficult to find and only available in Weatherby rifles. 6.5 PRC seems to be easier to find, probably because Hornady is making it, and seems to be very close in velocity to the RPM, especially with hand loads. Good video and thanks for discussing the RPM.

[@LRRPFco52]

Looking at Hornady 11th Edition, 129gr-135gr 6.5 PRC loads are doing 3200fps. Weatherby’s data says the 127gr LRX is doing 3225fps. Looks like there isn’t any advantage to the RPM other than common bolt heads.

[@cameronnedrow9353]

1 hour talk on the 12 gauge !

[@JamesSmith-et4wy]

hi from UK love your optics. would love you to cover the 275 rigby awesome cartridge.

[@blakebell6720]

The new 338 is pretty impressive too actually

[@pogeegitz]

I'm way more interested in that as a back country elk and moose cartridge. Waiting to see if it takes off.

[@blakebell6720]

@@pogeegitz yes sir a 185 ttsx at 3100 and a 225 at 2800 should be elk hammers

[@j5long]

@Adam Rietz Right there with ya. Hopefully, we have plenty of options for brass.

[@genekelley7579]

🛑🛑 Guys….what are the comparisons between the 6.5 RPM Weatherby and the 6.5/300 Weatherby?

[@frankmccarthy2624]

I’m way more exited about the fact that Weatherby decided to fully support the 280 Ackley with rifles, ammunition and brass. To me that is the perfect cartridge. I’m going to buy a Mark 5 in 280, I just haven’t decided on the model yet.

[@lurebenson7722]

The AR 10 works perfect in 284 win and I own an AR 10 in 6mm-284 and another AR 10 upper in 6.5-284 Norma . Maybe if you like the AR 10 have one made . I build AR 10 uppers for sale in all of the WSM magnums the 6.5 PRC - in 6.8 Western - 358 win

[@James_Jacobs]

One thing that Ryan may have alluded to in passing, but I think needs to be emphasized.... This cartridge really is mostly for folks who shoot factory rifles and factory ammo. It is severely handicapped by the short action mag length. You have to stuff it with over 100 thousandths of jump to the lands. If you like to tinker and maximize accuracy and such, this cartridge is not for you unless you went completely custom on everything and then you're going to have to compare it to other wildcats and open a whole new box of comparisons.

[@farmermann210]

The 6.5 Remington magnum was a revolutionary cartridge. Fell the same way of the 284 ...... Chambered in the wrong rifles.

[@joshtaylor1646]

Great info, I agree with his opinion on Barnes bullets, / 127 grain, excellent in a 6.5-300 wby

[@tomschumacher5434]

😂 can’t turn left 👏🏼 awesome Movie reference lol

[@hotramen5952]

should do a .458 win mag and the .458 lott. there is some cool history there with the possibly undeserved reputation of one leading to the creation of a legendary chambering.

[@TommyboyGTP]

I want this cartridge to survive and thrive. In order to do that to compete head to head with the PRC, Weatherby is going to have to do some serious strategy here. Hornady over the years has had some great marketing success, and Weatherby for many years has had their devout cult following.

[@recurrenTopology]

Out of curiosity, why do you prefer this to the PRC? Consumers generally seem to benefit from a smaller number of cartridges becoming more popular, as economies of scale and competition bring prices down. Conversely, I'm of the belief that market segmentation and the resulting higher profit margins are a major factor driving the introduction of new cartridges. As result, since the WBY RPM and PRC are quite ballistically similar, my preference would be to see only one succeed long term. A priori I don't have much preference which wins out, but given the PRCs substantial lead at this point I'm inclined to hope other manufacturers just stick with it and ignore the WBY RPM. Open to changing my mind though.

[@noahhorinek]

@@recurrenTopology It's a step above the PRC, about taking the place of the almost-antiquated 264 win mag (which I adore). It's a great cartridge for hunting. It's almost an apples to oranges comparison between the PRC and RPM, but not quite there.

[@recurrenTopology]

@@noahhorinek 👍

[@timsretired8675]

I’m a fan of 6.5 -.284 Norma, 26” barrel 1-8 and pushing a 142gr ABLR @ 2940 fps with no pressure problems.. that’s hard to beat

[@nicholasterrell1110]

3531 for the 6.5-300 wby mag

[@LRRPFco52]

​@@nicholasterrell1110😮 That's cookin'. Holy smokes.

[@jeremypeters7776]

I load my swede to 6.5-284 levels with 2 grains less powder. Not sure I want to dump in 20 more grains for 200-250 FPS that you get from the RPM.

[@lurebenson7722]

I am going on 8 years with my AR 10 I've done a Pac Nor super match barrel in 6.5-284 Norma and what a great match for cartridge and AR 10. The Pac Nor barrel is 26 " / 1-8 twist. For game hunting deer or larger I am shooting the Norma Oryx and Vulcan in 156 grain

[@TheSlowestofBros]

Any chance of a throw back to 256 Winchester Magnum or 22 Remington Jet?

[@jackbuendgen389]

I've got a buddy that built a custom weatherby chambered in 6.5 rpm. With 156 Bergers he's getting 2950. Apparently he can shoot out to 1,950 yards with it.

[@tylerdooley4783]

I’m getting a little bit more velocity with my carbonmark pro. Either way it’s crazy accurate with that bullet and my powder combo.

[@MrJtin69]

Fun 10 minute talk on weatherby freebore an what it does ive heard alot of confusing comments saying a 25-06 rem with freebore like weatherby would equal it but that makes no sense due to case volume alone

[@soreloser6018]

Another mention of the .284 win. Would love to see it on the show

[@shannonsalvestro5902]

Agreed!

[@mebryans2]

Requesting you review the 8mm Mauser. It’s old. It’s fast. And it hits hard. Thank you!

[@matthewgrice6902]

Sounds alot like the .264 Win Mag, which nobody seems to talk about anymore.

[@Bowstringdotcom]

Its just more efficient with its case volume and won't have all the leftover airspace in the case, but velocity per bullet weight should be about the same. The 264 Win mag I had was a model 70 (browning made) and all factory would shoot .25" 100 yard groups. 264 win mag is still great.

[@LionAstrology]

Respect on the 6 yr old I phone. Especially understanding the possible conditions of manufacturing.

[@anthonygendron9737]

Is Weatherby still chrome lining the rifling of the barrel to handle the speed of the bullet so that it doesn’t burn out too fast?

[@kylemartin832]

I'd consider the 6.5 RPM and 6.5 PRC almost equals. About the same difference you see 6.5 Creed and 260 Rem 👍🙏✌ looking forward to the next cartridge pick 😁

[@gpearce11]

I agree, and I think it's the biggest issue for the 6.5 RPM. It's technically better than the 6.5 PRC (especially factory loads), but definitely not by enough to be worth the significantly higher cost of ammo and limited rifle selection.

[@michealdaye4551]

I said the same about the 6.5 Rem Mag 35 years ago. The first real Short Mag. Still shottin it and love it.

[@LRRPFco52]

6.5 PRC looks like it matches or exceeds it. More efficient case design, same velocities. 6.5 PRC 135gr A-TIP at 3200fps vs 6.5 RPM 127gr LRX at 3225fps. I see a lot of 6.5 PRC on the shelves over the past year, lots of rifles chambered in it as well.

[@tedruehl6245]

I agree. For the cost of Weatherby ammo you can buy custom handloads for the PRC that meet or exceed the RPM velocities. I have an RPM but only because I love the Backcountry TI rifle.@@LRRPFco52

[@Il2305372]

Once again gold! Can you do 375 h&h?

[@jefferywilliams7687]

Seems like the industry is trying to get back to a 264 Winchester Magnum. I shoot 120’s out of a 264 at 3,350 and 130 @3,200.

[@edwardabrams4972]

I have a 264 win mag. And does almost the same thing for half the price in ammo

[@nmelkhunter1]

I think you’re right. When my dad was still able to hunt his favorite mulie and antelope cartridge was the 264 Win Mag. He shot 140 Partitions from his Model 70 Westerner at 3100 FPS and got 5/8” groups using H870. My brother now has the rifle and has killed several nice mulie and pronghorn bucks with it at extended ranges. Awesome cartridge that was “crowded out” by the 7MM Rem Mag. EDIT: My brother now uses RL-22 to get nearly identical performance.

[@jefferywilliams7687]

@@nmelkhunter1 You can get the same with Norma MRP, Federal 215, and WW Brass. I have taken a number of animals in NM with a 264 Win Mag. My pet load for deer and antelope is a 120 Nosler Ballastic Tip at 3,375. Never had to shoot any game 2X. I killed a bull above Ruidoso with 140 Grain Partitions and dropped him on the 1st shot. I re-barreled mine with a Wiseman 416 Stainless Steel barrel with a little freebore on a Winchester XTR action. Rifle is sub 1/4 MOA, 5 shot at 100 yards with hunting bullets.

[@nmelkhunter1]

@@jefferywilliams7687 It truly is an under appreciated cartridge. Have a happy New Year.

[@paulargent1003]

This cartridge and rifle was first built by TSE in Brisbane as a one of custom for a customer and Weatherby fan, when it came to getting a chamber reamer in the US the project was leaked to Weatherby and they quickly came up with their own version

[@rclem87]

Would love to see y’all talk about either 8.6 Creed or 375 Raptor.

[@308blr2]

Revisited this cartridge talk. I think it’s worth mentioning that a benefit of the 6.5 hunting bullet in a given weight when compared to hunting with larger weights is the higher sectional density.

[@johnbodman4504]

A higher sectional density will penetrate better but sometimes has less knock down affect.

[@colefahey9032]

Now something big and heavy, kinda like 416 rem mag

[@thevoyageur2152]

I think they shoulda kept the Double Radius. Really interested in this cartridge and backcountry package. Happy Huntin’.

[@timrellis90]

Seems pretty close to the 6.5 PRC. I loaded some 6.5prc up (127gr Barnes LRX. (Hornady new brass, WLRM primers, 58gr. H1000, loaded at 2.910” OAL) ) and am pushing 3119 with an ES of 4fps. Is the brass more expensive than 6.5prc? How many grains of powder is in a typical load?

[@ronpark3809]

Love the content. How about tenish minute talks on bullet selection for applications.

[@gpearce11]

It's an objectively good cartridge, but it's just too close to 6.5 PRC for me. It's definitely faster, but you can easily get within 100 fps with the PRC, and I really don't think that's enough to be worth the significant increase in ammo cost and decrease in rifle selection (especially if you're a lefty). If it was consistently over 150 fps faster I might give it more credit, but for only 100 fps you've gotta be a pretty hardcore Weatherby fan to not just get a 6.5 PRC.

[@Bowstringdotcom]

The benefit I see (for reloaders) is the long skinny brass lasting longer than short and fat brass, and for all shooters, being less finicky and feeding better. But I can definitely agree that ballistically it may be ahead of a PRC, but not lifetimes ahead.

[@gpearce11]

@Idaho Hunter True that, but if you're not a handloader, I struggle to justify any Weatherby chambering at the best of times, as factory ammo is simply too expensive and scarce. 280 AI suffers from the same problem; on paper, it's arguably the best all-around cartridge I've ever seen, but if you're not a handloader it's a waste of time because factory ammo barely exists.

[@Bowstringdotcom]

@@gpearce11 I can understand that sentiment, can't argue there.

[@ginacudia8615]

@@gpearce11 If the gun is of hunting and not target practice, once sighted in, a box of ammo should last a while. Sportsman's Warehouse seems to always have the 127 in stock. The same argument could be made regarding drinking expensive vs cheap whiskey, and I bet most people will spend more regularly on whiskey than ammo. Drink what you like!

[@74reddawg]

Ryan how would you compare it to a .264 Win Mag? I’m pushing the 127 LRX’s out of my .264 at close to the same velocity but with about 85% case capacity. I’m assuming the RPM is more efficient????

[@Bowstringdotcom]

Nailed it.

[@rustyshackleford2723]

I wondered where the Holiday Podcasts were this year....? Ok, next do the 338 RPM....

[@jacobmccandles1767]

"ZZZZzzzzz...." Way to reinvent the .270.

[@blaircalvin5025]

For hunting I would use the Swift Scirocco 130grs. For long range I load the 153 A Tip. Fantastic performance. Weatherby should chamber it in their Vanguard rifle as well.

[@devongreen7308]

As much as Ryan likes this cartridge, there's one very similar.. 264 win mag..

[@noahhorinek]

Yeah, but the good ol win mag maxes out on pressure before the load densities get high. The RPM doesn't have that problem.

[@devongreen7308]

@noahhorinek I'd imagine with a newer rifle 65,000psi is definitely attainable, I'm not saying your wrong, and I'm not saying that the RPM isn't a better case. But when you have a cartridge that's been around since 1958 or so, and then a new cartridge that's almost a twin ballistic wise come out in the last few years, 60+ years later. There's a bit of a stretch on wallets and attention spans at that point. Like why get a 6mm Creedmoor when your .243 win has been doing just fine.

[@uxorialstunner6492]

#vortex nation please do a 6.5-284 talk it’s just cool cartridge

[@waynealbright2563]

Not a Weatherby fan, my 6.5WSM pushes a 153gr ATip at 3250fps

[@miamislice3280]

Very unfortunate cartridge when compared to the .300 weatherby, gives much better speeds with similar bullet weights.

[@miamislice3280]

I meant the 6.5 weatherby, not the wsm

[@blakebell6720]

Where do I buy factory ammo for that at? And sub 5 pound rifles chambered in that?

[@miamislice3280]

@@blakebell6720 Where are you going to find a sub 5 lb rifle chambered for 6.5 rpm? Its a .30-06 length action, 6.5 WSM is a .308 length action.

[@waynealbright2563]

Blake, "you won't", is the answer to both questions. The 6.5WSM is a wildcat cartridge. I could build one but not sure I would want to shoot any magnum cartridge in a sub 5-lb gun. Most guys, that shoot a lot, (especially long range) reload. I like to spot my own shots, and am willing to pack around a heavier gun. Miami Slice, actually Weatherby claims they have a titanium version that is supposed to weigh 4.9-lbs with a $3600 price tag

[@evansluth4635]

Could you do a quick talk about the 25wssm in a AR platform?

[@hotramen5952]

that cartridge had such an earned reputation for jamming rifles it helped tank the whole line.

[@justinyarbrough5464]

Let’s see the 7mm Remington Magnum

[@BuckIt00]

My question is for Ryan. You May said this before but im wondering what is your favorite pill for hunting. Not cal. But the pill. Hows it's made in other words. Something for say 100 to 500 . Deer size game.

[@wesleyturner1979]

Can we argue the hard to lift bolt handles and sticky cases people have been getting with factory ammunition. I’m no stranger to loading hot but factory rounds….geeze! AND you guys need to neck this up to .277 with a 1-7.5 twist. 156 hammer hunters would be awesome in that!

[@markcarew6724]

The 284 Winchester was originally chambered in the Winchester model 88 lever action rifle before the 284 was offered in the Winchester model 100 rifle.

[@barrymantei7795]

The problem with all weatherby cartridges is that if your not a hand Loader you have limited bullet selection.

[@nuckyduk15]

I feel like the 6.5 RPM has as much hype as the 6.5 Creed when it was introduced. I can see this topping the 300 WBY in terms of the most popular Weatherby cartridges.

[@Brandenuzis]

I would love a 6.5 rpm. I’m about to sell my 6.5 creedmoor and get the rpm😂 I have the 257 wby and I love it. I’ll never buy a 30-06 or a 270 win etc in my life again. I’m suprised the weatherby cartridges aren’t stomping all over Winchester sales wise.

[@jmgates09]

Never will as long as it's not sold in a vanguard

[@RumblestripDotNet]

According the Sierra manual 6.5 PRC with 130 TMK is a 3100fps round at their optimal accuracy load.

[@redgebendheim4646]

Do 8.6 Blackout please!

[@georgecoyle6143]

I'd love to hear what you guys think of the Weatherby 338/378

[@bep357]

I know Ryan likes the 6.5 RPM. I’ve been thinking about the 257 but now leaning towards the 6.5x300. When’s the 6.5x300 episode coming out?

[@BigRob345]

Need to see the 6BR

[@CraigFerrieri]

he knows his cartridges

[@user-ds9eq8zx2n]

I wonder if these boys are honest to each other off camera. The disdain 😂

[@StevenMMan]

How about a cartridge talk on the 8mm Remington magnum, and you think it never gained the popularity it deserved? Mountain man

[@andrewcleveland]

That would be nice. I would say it never gained the popularity it deserved, but I believe bullet selection back then hurt it some. It would be hard to beat as a dedicated elk cartridge in my opinion.

[@bartowpd342]

What’s y’all’s favorite caliber for all purpose hunting med to large game

[@scottstyles7674]

I am interested in 6.5 RPM to 6.5 Bitchcat comparison

[@mussersbowsboatsandscience6610]

6.5×300 Weatherby fastest 6.5 caliber. Also arguably the most flat shooting caliber in the world. Why did they make the other ones? I guess I will stay tuned, wonder if they will mention these other 6.5 comparisons.

[@paulhunter2941]

love my 6.5-300

[@Weatherby406]

I have 6.5-300 as well. The 6.5rpm fits in a 4.9 lb Weatherby rifle is why they made it. Saves a full pound of weight over the same gun in 6.5-300

[@mussersbowsboatsandscience6610]

@@Weatherby406 good to know, thanks!

[@jared016]

When will we get the next 6.5 bc update

[@craigsanders6925]

I'll take the PRC, short action, better case design, just as speedy bullet for bullet. Factory 143's are going 2950 in my 24 in proof barrel. 156's are about 2900 as well. My 6.5 CM is over 2800 with 147's

[@C.Griffin]

257 Weatherby Magnum next please. Then 7mm Remington Magnum.

[@miamislice3280]

Would love to see more on the American metric Nosler cartridges, particularly .27 Nosler.

[@codysalmon6825]

Need to do 7mm stw

[@michaelmcatee221]

Bullet construction is king, but the smaller the diameter of the bullet, the more crucial it is. For example with a .45-70 you can just throw a lead bullet in there and it will perform just fine on even large game at appropriate distances. Whereas with a .308 cal you need you need some sort of cup and core but as long as it’s soft pointed it will be fine. I would argue that 6.5 is the line where you don’t just need A good bullet for the job but you THE good bullet for the job. Bullet selection becomes absolutely essential with bullets that small and that’s why a lot of people would prefer something a little bigger.

[@Weatherby406]

Weatherby Backcountry 2.0 TI in 6.5rpm is 4.9lbs.

[@baud1990]

Very good but a turned up 6.5 prc will do same, guess a turned up rpm would be better

[@brennanhoaglund4156]

264 win mag sometime?

[@bp8023]

Shoutout to Jimmy Pumf

[@danielboyd4651]

I may have this wrong, but what exactly is this new cartridge bring to the table? It appears to fall between the 264 Win Mag and the 26 Nosler. I understand the 6.5 craze that is currently happening but I think this one is going to die a fast death unless it is not solely proprietary to Weatherby. It will surely die if it stays proprietary. The rifle offered is expensive and everyone knows that there is expensive ammo and then there is WEATHERBY expensive ammo. What about barrel wear? The 264 Win Mag was plaqued with that moniker so will this also be true for the 6.5 RPM? I believe there are better options for big game other than this. Would this be a niche cartridge? Just my thoughts. I do love these segments and seeing the comments that everyone shares!

[@John_Redcorn_]

I dont see it lasting either, as the 6.5 prc is the same performance, will be cheaper and more available. I wouldnt worry about barrel life: its a hunting round. For that reason, if i wanted a hotrod 6.5/26 cal id just go whole hog and get the 26 Nosler. Neither the prc nor the rpm excite me, as I can push the same weight bullet (130g) out of my 270 Win at the same velocity 🤷‍♂️

[@edwardabrams4972]

They spend all that money designing a cartridge that really doesn’t do anything that is not already out there but want $3,500. For the gun and twice as much for the ammo which you can’t find anywhere🤔😳

[@bigbore4459]

**Let’s have a discussion on the 6mm Creedmoor and why it is a dual purpose for hunting and popular in PRS competition

[@Halcyon1861]

Maybe if Hornady would have named the 6.5 prc, the 6.5 Hornady magnum people would say, oh yeah it's a magnum it is powerful. But the prc doesn't roll off the tongue like "magnum". Factory 130 grain Federal terminal ascent out of my 24 inch Bergara, low 3060 high 3114. If i wanted to handload it, it would be beyond the 6.5 RPM, but I don't want to. The point is it is a magnum already and it is a short action.

[@jordanrheeder8228]

Why is nobody talking about the 6.5 Sherman short magnum? 156 Berger at 3075 with a 26 inch barrel, no pressure issues.

[@HB-kp6rl]

Why this over 7mm prc? Or 300 wsm

[@dylanbob3909]

Just completely avoided any comparisons between the 26 nosler and the 6.5-300 wby 😂😂

[@Kross8761]

I think bullet diameter DOES mean something, but it's pointless with a good bullet design being paired with it. If we take a 6.5mm bullet and a 7mm bullet that both expand to exactly double diameter (just as a 1:1 example) the 6.5 mm bullet will expand to 13mm or roughly .53caliber, but the 7mm will expand to 14mm or roughly .57 caliber. A 30 cal will expand to .60 caliber. The key is using a good bullet that will reliably expand at the velocities you're going to be impacting the animal at. Bullet construction decides your velocity threshold for performance, a Barnes LRX/TTSX or Hornady CX/GMX need a bare minimum of 2000fps at a given distance for me to use it at that distance, and I tend to draw my line more at 2200 just for ethical reasons, whereas a tipped hunting bullets like a Sierra Game changer or Hornady ELD-X or a Federal Terminal Ascent give me both a lower velocity threshold, and a better BC to extend that velocity threshold much farther away (not that I go looking for long shots, but it's nice to have that ability in your repertoire should a great animal step out of the brush further away) I don't think 6.5 is inadequate for elk or even moose, it wouldn't be my first choice, but as long as I had a good bullet and knew I was within range for ideal performance then I'd take the shot if it presented itself. I do like just a touch more frontal diameter (mainly because I'm inexplicably enamored with the .284 bullet diameter) but a 6.5 is an excellent choice.